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Talk about rounds 2-3 here tonight

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yes

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[quote=spAtt;1005670]yes[/quote]

Mhm. I agree. Most splendid.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhyeah, Redskins time to shine!

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[quote=spAtt;1005670]yes[/quote]

This.




Time to witness more draft wizardry from Bruce and Mike. We'll end up with 10-12 players by the end of this.


Our Round 2 pick needs to be the best DB available.

If it's a CB, we can move Hall to FS. If it's a safety...it will help Hall at CB.



SS...nothing happening with Quentin Jammer? Did he visit as reported?

Come on Honey badger!! Actually I think he'll be gone before we pick so I'm sticking with a WR. But I'd rather go DB

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1005680]Come on Honey badger!! Actually I think he'll be gone before we pick so I'm sticking with a WR. But I'd rather go DB[/quote]



If he or I'll even say Te'o are availble, we need to take them. Talent-wise, they're elite. Otherwise, they're a gamble but I say take the risk.

Te'o will have to put up with a year of taunting fans and idiotic media coverage, but long-term, he'll have a solid career. He could be a great Fletcher replacement in the middle of the D.

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[img]http://joshmcclellan.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/rambo.jpg[/img]

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^ I hope that we draft Baccari Rambo just for the name. :)

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We will get someone good. Call me crazy but i think Cyprien falls today.

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Phillip Thomas is hopefully on his way to Washington.

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I'll say this. If DaMontre Moore of Texas A&M or Alex Okafor of Texas are available when we pick, throw out the secondary needs for one round and get one of these guys. They can get to the QB on a consistent basis. DaMontre Moore sacked RG3 3 times in one game. No other player did that in college. He doesn't have the timed speed, but he has the football speed and quickness to get to the QB. Throw in the fact that Orakpo is in the final year of his deal and Kerrigan isn't all that effective without Orakpo, and OLB looks even better to pick up.

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Forget the Honey Badger, we need the Red Panda.

[IMG]http://i.minus.com/iLJVmd9mGDXTE.gif[/IMG]

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I like Moore too. That said, I'd be shocked if they went that way with 51.

I'm so torn on Matthieu. He could be so good, but he's just so scary. I wouldn't take him until the 4th and he won't be there.

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[quote=simbosargos75;1005702]I like Moore too. That said, I'd be shocked if they went that way with 51.

[B]I'm so torn on Matthieu. He could be so good, but he's just so scary. I wouldn't take him until the 4th and he won't be there[/B].[/quote]

100% agreement there. I want Rambo in round 3, and I want Honey Badger, but the problem is I see a team taking him (like New England) in round 3. But! Supposedly HB skipped 2 NFL team meetings with Seattle and Houston, so thats 2 teams I think we can cross off of the list.

Saw a crazy stat last night.

Eli Manning has thrown more ints 56 than anyone over the past 3 seasons

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I suspect we'll wheel and deal tonight. With the flatness of the player pool I think we could trade back and pick up maybe an extra 4th and still get a CB/S/WR in round two. I doubt they're in love with one guy at this point.

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Lots of teams picking in front of us, but heres how I see it going:
33. Jags Geno Smith
34. 49ers Zack Ertz
35. Eagles DaMontre Moore
36. Lions Menelik Watson
37. Bengals Cyprien
38. Cardinals Matt Barkley
39. Jets Ryan Nassib
40. Titans Johnathan Banks
41. Bills Robert Woods
42. Raiders Okafor
43. Bucs Tank Carradine
44. Panthers Robert Woods
45. Chargers Manti Te'o
46. Bills Kevin Minter
47. Cowboys Giovanni Bernard
48. Steelers Eddie Lacy
49. Giants Khaseem Greene
50. Bears Arthur Brown
51. Redskins Terrance Williams

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1005692]Phillip Thomas is hopefully on his way to Washington.[/quote]

He can be had in round 3 maybe even 4.

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Speaking of draft talk...this morning I listened to Tiki Barber interviewing Vinny Cerrato about the draft on the radio. Both of these guys have their own shows on CBS Sports Radio. Worse yet, Vinny was critiquing QBs.

It's so bad you can't leave.

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I'm calling a RB in Round 6!

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For all you Honey Badger Lovers:

Tyrann Mathieu, DB, LSU:
[U]49ers (PRI)[/U]
[U]Bengals (PRI) [/U]
[U]Bills (PRI) [/U]
[U]Browns (PRI) [/U]
Buccaneers% (PRI) (COM)
[U]Cardinals (PRI) [/U]
[U]Dolphins (PRI)[/U]
Falcons (PRI)
[U]Patriots (PRI)[/U]
Raiders (PRI)
[U]Redskins (COM)[/U]
[COLOR="Silver"]Seahawks (PRI)
Texans (PRI)[/COLOR]
[U][COLOR="Black"]Vikings (PRI)[/COLOR][/U]

PRI means Private workout. COM means met at the Combine. % means that a team has met with Mathieu more than once. Now keep this in mind:

The Bucs just got Revis, so I don't think they'll agressively pursue Mathieu today.
The Texans and Seahawks got their meetings blown off by Mathieu, per Jay Glazer. So I'd cross them off to. The Raiders just drafted DJ Hayden, so I don't think they'll go for Mathieu in round 2.

The Cardinals and 49ers beat reporters both said today that Tyrann is on their teams radars and that both teams are high on him. The Vikings just drafted Xavier Rhodes, but he's no NB like Tyrann. Leslie Frazier just dealt with a headcase like Harvin and got rid of him, but the flip side is he just lost Winfield and needs to replace a playmaker with a playmaker. Good news is the vikings don't pick before us (yet, atleast). The Cardinals pick before us, but there will be a QB run, and I'm sure they'll jump to get one now instead of picking Tyrann at 38.

The Falcons, they just got Trufant for a lot of picks, and they need a TE. I see them getting Escobar, Ertz or Kelce in round 2.

49ers-could definitely happen at the end of round 2, especially since they have so many picks.
Bengals-I don't expect it till their 2nd 2nd round pick, which means we're golden for our 2nd round pick to get him.
Bills (PRI)- they need a lot of stuff, they're a threat to take him before us at 46.
Browns (PRI)- They don't have a 2nd round pick, but the 3rd rounder is where they may get him.
Buccaneers% (PRI) (COM)- Again, I don't see it since they have Revis now and they have so many other needs.
Cardinals (PRI)- Definitely could happen with their 3rd rounder, but with the QB run I expect in the 2nd, I expect them to take one.
Dolphins (PRI)- they pick after us, the pick could end up being traded for brandon albert, but again they could pick Tyrann in the 3rd.
Falcons (PRI)- don't see it happening with the addition of trufant. They're more of a 3rd round possibility.
Patriots (PRI)- could definitely see this happening in the 2nd, but they supposedly really like the WRs, specifically Woods.
Raiders (PRI)- unlikely now that Hayden was picked, but with this looney franchise, you never know. I say 3rd round at best if they did get him.
Redskins (COM)- he'll be there for us; do we take him or see how serious other teams were about getting him in the 3rd round or late 2nd.
Seahawks (PRI)- Not happening now that he blew them off, and that they already have a loaded secondary.
Texans (PRI)- He blew them off as well; unlikely to happen.
Vikings (PRI)- They don't pick until round 4, by then, he'll be gone.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1005680]Come on Honey badger!! Actually I think he'll be gone before we pick so I'm sticking with a WR. But I'd rather go DB[/quote]

I think taking Homey Badger in the 2nd round might be a little bit of a reach. If he's there in the 3rd round then fine, but with all his issues, plus sitting out for a year = 3rd round grade.

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I'd be happy if the Horny Badger never sees the inside of our locker room, so I hope we draft him in the 8th round.

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I am now hoping for the first three picks to go like this...

Round2 DJ Swearinger
Round3 Tyrann Mathieu
Round4 Da'Rick Rogers

I know there alot of head cases here, but I believe in our coaches and the attitude at Redskins Park right now.

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[quote=Lotus;1005733]I'd be happy if the Horny Badger never sees the inside of our locker room, so I hope we draft him in the 8th round.[/quote]

He smoked some weed, big deal. A lot of guys just need to grow up and he probably learned his lesson. I don't think we should take him in the 2nd round but the 3rd round would be ideal. Doubt he lasts that long though..

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Shanahan just said last week that they won't take risks on character concerns. I think Honey Badger brings way too much baggage. All it takes is one bad apple to ruin a good thing.

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^ This is the same guy who took Maurice Clarrett. I don't put too much stock in Shanahan pressers.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1005740]He smoked some weed, big deal. A lot of guys just need to grow up and he probably learned his lesson. I don't think we should take him in the 2nd round but the 3rd round would be ideal. Doubt he lasts that long though..[/quote]

To some, it is a big deal to use illegal drugs.

I agree, with his risks, we should let him slide to the 3rd Round to we don't lose as much if he can't grow up.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;1005744]^ This is the same guy who took Maurice Clarrett. I don't put too much stock in Shanahan pressers.[/quote]

Yeah but his track record so far with the Skins says he puts a premium on character guys. Sure you gamble and lose sometimes, but for the most part he's been true to his word.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1005683]If he or I'll even say Te'o are availble, we need to take them. Talent-wise, they're elite. Otherwise, they're a gamble but I say take the risk.

Te'o will have to put up with a year of taunting fans and idiotic media coverage, but long-term, he'll have a solid career. He could be a great Fletcher replacement in the middle of the D.[/quote]

I told my wife who doesn't follow football about Te'o and his fake dead girlfriend and she said "That kid is bat shit crazy! I wouldn't draft him". I understand why she (and others) would feel that way about drafting him but I still rank him as the #1 ILB in this draft.

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[quote=Lotus;1005733]I'd be happy if the Horny Badger never sees the inside of our locker room, so I hope we draft him in the 8th round.[/quote]

Hilarious typo

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1005751]I told my wife who doesn't follow football about Te'o and his fake dead girlfriend and she said "That kid is bat shit crazy! I wouldn't draft him". I understand why she (and others) would feel that way about drafting him but I still rank him as the #1 ILB in this draft.[/quote]

Exactly, if he's available, we cannot pass over him. We lucked out when Orakpo fell as far as he did but if Te'o is available in Round 2, pick #51....that could be the greatest draft value ever.

That situation is so odd...his friend who made the phone calls and pretended to be the girl could be mostly at blame anyway...seemed like some kind of joke against Te'o and his worst sin was being gullible.

ON the field...talent.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1005696]I'll say this. If DaMontre Moore of Texas A&M or Alex Okafor of Texas are available when we pick, throw out the secondary needs for one round and get one of these guys. They can get to the QB on a consistent basis. DaMontre Moore sacked RG3 3 times in one game. No other player did that in college. He doesn't have the timed speed, but he has the football speed and quickness to get to the QB. Throw in the fact that Orakpo is in the final year of his deal and [B]Kerrigan isn't all that effective without Orakpo[/B], and OLB looks even better to pick up.[/quote]

Didn't Kerrigan match his rookie year sack output and get named a Pro Bowl alternate?

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[quote=skinsfan69;1005740]He smoked some weed, big deal. A lot of guys just need to grow up and he probably learned his lesson. I don't think we should take him in the 2nd round but the 3rd round would be ideal. Doubt he lasts that long though..[/quote]

It's not about him 'smoking some weed', it's an indication of the decisions that he makes, his self discipline and reliability.

If he's there in the 4th or 5th, maybe if we've already got a CB, S and WR but he's a luxury pick for us. Even at best he's not going to be an everydown starter at CB for anyone, he's a slot CB/returner.

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Anyone want to take odds on a Jarvis Jenkins/Josh LeRebious type guy we've never heard of or seen linked to the team being picked tonight with our first selection?

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[quote=Dirtbag59;1005801]Anyone want to take odds on a Jarvis Jenkins/Josh LeRebious type guy we've never heard of or seen linked to the team being picked tonight with our first selection?[/quote]

Considering our history of taking off the radar types in the 2nd round on, chances are good we could see a repeat.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1005740]He smoked some weed, big deal. A lot of guys just need to grow up and he probably learned his lesson. I don't think we should take him in the 2nd round but the 3rd round would be ideal. Doubt he lasts that long though..[/quote]

He just did some drugs.. Big deal guys!!!!! Drugs that will get him suspended and off the team in a giffy.. NO BIG DEAL GUYS!

I heard he was caught 11 times while in LSU.. At least he learns from his first 10 mistakes.

[QUOTE=Paintrain;1005796]Didn't Kerrigan match his rookie year sack output and get named a Pro Bowl alternate?[/QUOTE]

7.5 his rookie year, 41 tackles, 4FF's, 1 Int & 9 last year, 54 tackles, 2ff's & 1 Int.

Marginally better season w/out RAK.

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[quote=Mattyk;1005749]Yeah but his track record so far with the Skins says he puts a premium on character guys. Sure you gamble and lose sometimes, but for the most part he's been true to his word.[/quote]

Shanahan will go for the risky guys, Trent and Fred with weed, merriweathers with his DUI. He still has and "hopes" that tanard Jackson will play this year even thought he has drug problems up the wahzoo. DHall isn't exactly the best character guy with his on the field in incidents with coaches and refs as well as players. Shanahan kept briscoe on the roster even though he was cut by Tampa bay because he was a headcase there. Hell, he stuck with josh Morgan after he lost us the game.

So to say he doesn't want character guys is pure bull.

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[quote=Paintrain;1005796]Didn't Kerrigan match his rookie year sack output and get named a Pro Bowl alternate?[/quote]

He did, but he was expected to get big numbers and double digit sacks. If you watched Kerrigan last year he was being blocked with just one man. That doesn't tell me that with orakpo he would have been much better considering Rak gets double teamed drawing single coverage for kerrigan. Ryan did good last year, but great? No. Can we upgrade him if a player like Moore fell or if Orakpo leaves, yes. But all in all OLB isn't of main concern.