Which NFC East coach has the most to prove
 

I am flat out stealing this from a commenter on the ESPN article,[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/52502/do-it-again-redskins-cant-wait-to-try:]Do it again? Redskins can't wait to try - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/url]

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Poster:Dongtavious Steelwang

What coach has the most to prove this season?

Coughlin: Can he take the Giants back to the playoffs?
Shanahan: Can he keep his QB healthy for an entire season, and will they repeat?
Chip Kelly: Will his offense and philosophy succeed in the NFL?
Garrett: Will managing less of the playcalling make him a better coach?
25 Minutes Ago
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But I think it's a worthy question, and laid out well. Personally, I think Garrett's on the same hotseat Wade Phillips was on when his team gave up on him. I don't think the cowboys will give up early, but if they start 2-4 or worse, the team may spiral out of JG's handle. And no talk of process will cut it when you have been in his shoes.

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Cowboys start worst than .500 through the first 10 games, probably over for Garrett.

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no doubt its garrett

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1014286]no doubt its garrett[/quote]

I agree, another year of missing the playoffs and he's probably toast.

Kelly gets somewhat of a pass as a rookie HC.

Coughlin has two recent SB wins, nuff said.

Shanahan is coming off a div title and also has 2 SB wins under his belt.

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Yeah, Garrett has done nothing since taking over for Dough Boy. He has the most to prove because his seat is the hottest.

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[quote=Mattyk;1014287]I agree, another year of missing the playoffs and he's probably toast.

Kelly gets somewhat of a pass as a rookie HC.

Coughlin has two recent SB wins, nuff said.

Shanahan is coming off a div title and also has 2 SB wins under his belt.[/quote]

I think its Kelly all the way. Is he the second coming of Steve Spurrier with a new fangled college offense, or is he the real deal?

Shanahan and Coughlin have nothing to prove, and Garrett has Jerry Jones making all the decisions anyway, so any failures or successes will or should be put on Jones. I think Garrett is a puppet head coach anyway.

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[quote=scowan;1014291]I think its Kelly all the way. Is he the second coming of Steve Spurrier with a new fangled college offense, or is he the real deal?

Shanahan and Coughlin have nothing to prove, and Garrett has Jerry Jones making all the decisions anyway, so any failures or successes will or should be put on Jones. I think Garrett is a puppet head coach anyway.[/quote]

I look at it this way... Who would be more likely to get fired if their team went 5-11 this year, Garrett or Kelly?

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With Garrett losing his playcalling ability, I went with Chip Kelly. I don't believe Garrett doing great or terrible will impact his eventual fate much either way. I expect the big questions to be over how Kelly handles Vick vs Foles. How that uptempo offense works. Can he keep McCoy happy? Most importantly, will he be able to run his offense without exhausting his defense?

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As far as hot seat, really the only answer is Jason Garrett. But most to prove, to me, is not necessarily the same question

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;1014300]As far as hot seat, really the only answer is Jason Garrett. But most to prove, to me, is not necessarily the same question[/QUOTE]

I messed up the poll title. should've been most to prove. any chance a mod could change it?
thanks

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[quote=scowan;1014291]I think its Kelly all the way. Is he the second coming of Steve Spurrier with a new fangled college offense, or is he the real deal?

[B]Shanahan and Coughlin have nothing to prove[/B], and Garrett has Jerry Jones making all the decisions anyway, so any failures or successes will or should be put on Jones. I think Garrett is a puppet head coach anyway.[/quote]

I don't agree tht Shanhan has nothing to prove. Coughlin doesn't since he's won multiple Super Bowls with the Giants in the last several years. But Shanahan hasn't done a whole lot here in Washington yet. He had a successful season last year, but he has to show that it wasn't a fluke. If we miss the playoffs this year, Shanhan won't be fired, but it's not gong to be like in NY, where Giants fans know Coughlin can get them back in the playoffs the following year. Shanahan needs to prove that he has turned this team around and that the Redskins can sustain consistent success with him at the helm. And I believe he will.

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garrett by a texas mile.

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Kelly has the most to prove, but Garrett, while having very little to prove, has the most to survive for.

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How crazy is it that someone holding the opinion of Shanahan being a terrible hire and Garrett being a great one could have been justified by just one Week 17 game? That's nuts.

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I have them in order.

Garett's last chance.
Kelly has at least two years to make his case.
Shanahan said 5 yrs and even if he had a bad yr he still would be back next.
Coughlin the guys has 2 SB its his decision for a few yrs

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[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/52502/do-it-again-redskins-cant-wait-to-try]Do it again? Redskins can't wait to try - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1014373][url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/52502/do-it-again-redskins-cant-wait-to-try]Do it again? Redskins can't wait to try - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/url][/quote]

If only RG3 didn't get hurt...

They were on fire down the stretch.

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[quote=Mattyk;1014377]If only RG3 didn't get hurt...

They were on fire down the stretch.[/quote]

They would have DESTROYED Seattle. The Skins would have at least gotten to the NFC Championship game.

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[quote=Mattyk;1014377]If only RG3 didn't get hurt...

They were on fire down the stretch.[/quote]


We would have beaten atlanta, our speed on that turf???

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1014381]We would have beaten atlanta, our speed on that turf???[/quote]

We came close during the regular season. Atlanta woulda been toast

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[quote=Ruhskins;1014380]They would have DESTROYED Seattle. The Skins would have at least gotten to the NFC Championship game.[/quote]

I agree. Seattle couldn't figure us out on those first two drives. If only RG3 was healthy for the full game, it would have likely been too late for them to recover.

If only...

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Garrett is on his last leg! So he has beyond a lot to prove!

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I went with Shanahan, just because the only poll I would want to vote for another NFC East coach on is "which NFC East coach is the biggest douchebag piece of frikkin shit" poll.

Plus, Shanny does have to prove that the offense isn't a fluke, he has to prove he can shore that secondary up, and he has to prove that he can balance the option and the health of our QB in a responsible way.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1014381]We would have beaten atlanta, our speed on that turf???[/quote]

Washington 35
Seattle 14

Washington 38
Atlanta 21

And it would have been us vs San Fran for the right to go to the SB and who knows what would have happened then.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1014300]As far as hot seat, really the only answer is Jason Garrett. But most to prove, to me, is not necessarily the same question[/quote]

Agree , two completely different things.

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I voted for Kelly. He's the only one who hasn't shown what they can do on a professional level.

Shanahan PROVED last season he can still build a contender. He has taken a team who was completely destroyed by incompetence over a decade and turned them into a Super Bowl contender in 3 years. Year #4 will be a great one.

We know Coughlin can be either a world champion or a guy who loses his team in an ugly end-of-year collapse. He'll be on the chopping block in Week 6 and end up winning a Super Bowl or he'll be cruising through a great season 3/4 the way through only to miss the playoffs after his team looks like they've quit a month early. He's the ultimate Jekyl and Hyde coach but he's earned his salary.

Garrett has already proven he can't succeed as a head coach, at least in Dallas. No coach without full control and a resume like Bill Cowher could succeed in Dallas and it's still debatable whether Jerry Jones could even concede the team to a coach of that caliber. Jerry Jones will not allow his chosen boy Garrett to succeed because of his own ego. There's a reason the Cowboys have not been contenders for 17 years. They're just 1-7 in the playoffs since 1996. Even the Redskins have more than one playoff win in that span and we freely admit we've been a mess. Yet, Dallas fans still act like it's 1996 and they're defending champs, every year, no matter how bad they are. I don't know if I should laugh or feel bad they they have mental illness.

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I would say all of them have something to prove. Mike Shanahan has to prove that the Redskins can become a winner again this year after last year's success. In Dallas this is do or die for Jason Garrett. In New York Coach Coughdrops has to make sure his team doesn't fall off and Chip Kelly has to prove that his up tempo offense won't get swallowed up by quick and fast defenses.

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I said Garett.

[B]Shanahan[/B]- has this team getting better each year. Plus picking up a franchise QB in RG3.

[B]Kelly[/B]- It takes more then 1 yr to emplement your scheme. As long as the team looks good trying.

[B]Coughlin[/B]- 2 SB's. Tweek his OL and DL and he's back.

[B]Garett[/B]- I think he was the cause of the former HC getting fired. He has not done well and JJ took his play calling away. Next step is firing.

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[quote=SBXVII;1014899]I said Garett.

[B]Shanahan[/B]- has this team getting better each year. Plus picking up a franchise QB in RG3.

[B]Kelly[/B]- It takes more then 1 yr to emplement your scheme. As long as the team looks good trying.

[B]Coughlin[/B]- 2 SB's. Tweek his OL and DL and he's back.

[B]Garett[/B]- I think he was the cause of the former HC getting fired. He has not done well and JJ took his play calling away. Next step is firing.[/quote]

I agree with you about Shanahan. All the Redskins needed were a few more pieces and they got them in the draft.

In regards to Kelly, that's not always true. Jim Harbaugh came straight from the college ranks and has taken the 49ers to 1 NFC championship and 1 SB is first two years after the team struggled with Mike Singletary as their HC.

The NYG have holes at LB and in the secondary. JPP is coming off of back surgery and the team signed an aging Cullen Jenkins on the defensive line. This is the year the Giants finish 7-9 and Coach Coughdrops will resign.

Jason Garrett is another Norv Turner....and that's all I got to say about that.

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Its Shanny for sure. The Skins won the NFCE last year and Shanny & Co. need to prove that was the start being a consistent playoff contender and not just a one year fluke.