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SmootSmack 03-25-2005 05:20 PM

Comeback Redskin of 2005
 
Whose return do you see having the biggest impact on the Redskins next season?

Vote and discuss

saden1 03-25-2005 06:22 PM

Re: Comeback Redskin of 2005
 
Jansen because the D was good without Arrington.

wolfeskins 03-25-2005 07:09 PM

Re: Comeback Redskin of 2005
 
as much as i love arrington and think his return will help the skins, i had to vote for jansen, his return is vital.with the addition of our new center and the return of jansen , i feel, the offensive line should show the most improvement of all facets of the team. those improvements should help the running and passing games as well.


but it's still nice to get lavar back, especially considering we lost pierce and smoot.

rickmmrr 03-25-2005 07:18 PM

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[QUOTE=saden1]Jansen because the D was good without Arrington.[/QUOTE]

My thoughts as well.

But hay you never know. Maybe Arrington has something to prove.

Daseal 03-25-2005 07:32 PM

Re: Comeback Redskin of 2005
 
Jansen without a doubt!

BigSKINBauer 03-25-2005 08:31 PM

Re: Comeback Redskin of 2005
 
Janson just because we are already to the max on Defense but Arrington will be a huge comeback along with bowen which will lead to more sacks

Cush 03-25-2005 08:36 PM

Re: Comeback Redskin of 2005
 
toss up between Jansen and Arrington, but I voted for Lavar mainly because of the changes on D.

RedskinRat 03-25-2005 08:42 PM

Re: Comeback Redskin of 2005
 
I think that adding Bowen (and Arrington) puts our D over the top, certain #1 for next year. I'd love to see the O line dominate but feel it may take them half a season to get with it. Last season we had Jansen go out and the switch from leftie to rightie. None of that helped.

GoSkins! 03-25-2005 08:51 PM

Re: Comeback Redskin of 2005
 
I can't believe you left off Brunnel???? I guess that means Ill have to go with Jansen!:food-smil

Daseal 03-25-2005 09:24 PM

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I feel our D will slouch without Smoot and Pierce myself, Rat. lets not forget, Bowen is a good blitzer but a huge liability in pass defense. I feel Ryan Clark/Andre Lott play that role much better than he.

SKINSnCANES 03-25-2005 09:48 PM

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I put Matt Bowen, not becuase I think hes some amazing player, but his return changes how we are going to do things. When Bowen was in we would blitz him, and he was acutally really good at getting to teh qb and applying pressure. When he went down he started blitzing Taylor instead. WIth bowen in there it gives taylor more freedom and hes going to make a lot of big plays next year, I promise this. Taylor is going to be flat out amazing next year and having Bowen back will make him better.

Jansen is definitly a huge return as well. And if Gibbs stays conservative this will be huge in terms of getting our running game going.

Daseal 03-25-2005 10:13 PM

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I disagree, Skins. He didn't blitz Taylor enough. Don't expect to see him back a lot. Greg Williams likes him as a blitzer.

ST21 03-25-2005 10:15 PM

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its going to be Rasmey, He will not have to worry about any other QB, and he will be able to throw to proven, WR, have maybe 1 of the top 10 offensive line in the league, I said this earlier a post, that I think that he will have a season of... 2280yrds, 23td's, 11int's, and a QB rating of 83%, with those kind of number that means CP is on pace to a 16-17 hundred yrd season, with a Defense in the Top 8, with all of this being said the Skins should finish 10-6 or 11-5, still second best in the division behind the Eagles (as I throw up)....and we should take care the games we should win and have to 2-3 big upsets........

DCopper04 03-26-2005 12:46 AM

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Ramsey without a doubt. Aside from him, I have to look at Walt Harris. If we draft a CB, then Harris is unlikely to start, but if we don't, then his play will definitely have a huge impact on the performance of the defense. I know it seems like a cliche at this point, but we've said it a thousand times, GW's system often leaves the corners out in one-on-one coverage, and if they don't play well, we might be in some trouble.

EternalEnigma21 03-26-2005 02:53 AM

Re: Comeback Redskin of 2005
 
I gotta go Lavar.

I know lavar got hurt and everything and we did great without him, but the man is one of the best atheletes the league has ever seen. He will have a huge impact on the defense and games in general. Thats just one more huge playmaker to add to the roster and the captain of our defense. There are alot of people who are down on lavar for some reason lately and i just cant understand it.

Oh and I think they were talking abouit someone returning from an injury last year guys... Ramsey finished the season.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-26-2005 03:34 AM

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I'm going with Ramsey for several reasons.

First, I'm a big fan of Ramsey - hence my screen name.

Second, I have faith in Gibbs and his ability to make a QB look good. Look what he did for Brunell. Seriously though, Gibbs will make Ramsey look good.

Third, I still STRONGLY believe that Ramsey has enormous potential. Give the guy a good coaching staff (which he has), a good offensive line (which he'll have with Rabach and Jansen), a good running back (which he has with Portis), and decent wideouts and any quarterback will look decent. For those reasons, I think Ramsey will shine.

Fourth, I think Ramsey has the respect of his teammates. He's young, tough, a gun-slinger, and is a "team-guy."

SmootSmack 03-26-2005 08:37 AM

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[QUOTE=canthetuna]Oh and I think they were talking abouit someone returning from an injury last year guys... Ramsey finished the season.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I can understand all the Ramsey talk but I suppose I should have been clearer in the initial post. I did mean a player that we missed for most of last season due to injury. I guess I could have thrown John Hall in there as well.

BrudLee 03-26-2005 08:58 AM

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I went with Jansen, though I think Barrow getting significant minutes might be the NFL's comeback story of the year.

So much of our offensive woes last year were based on a patchwork offensive line. Jansen is a stellar run blocker, which would have helped Portis. Better runs mean better play action. Better play action means defenses adjust to us, not the other way around.

RedskinPete 03-26-2005 10:57 AM

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Arrington,Jansen and Barrow will all have great years! Barrow will take away the sting away from the loss of Pierce and give us time get a draft pick ready when he is done! Arrington also will help that as well just being on the field. As for Jansen I really think he will be a big part to the O getting back to what it should be!!!!

MTK 03-26-2005 11:28 AM

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I voted Arrington because I think he will add so much to the defense, he's a dynamic player who Williams will take full advantage of.

But I do think Jansen's return will be HUGE to the offensive line.

Gmanc711 03-26-2005 11:36 AM

Re: Comeback Redskin of 2005
 
I went with Jansen. I think the oline was very meidocre and he will add alot. I'm also very excited to see Arrington for obvious reasons. However; I am very excited to see Matt Bowen back in action this year. I know he's not the best cover guy, but they were blitzing him like crazy last year and it worked alot! I cant wait for September.

56FAN 03-26-2005 12:17 PM

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jasen, hands down we now know who the captian of the guard is. it's not samuels but jansen. the line never recovered from his loss. main reason why the offense sucked last year.

TheMalcolmConnection 03-27-2005 10:50 AM

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I'm not going to bash Bowen, but I think we are all being a little premature in saying how his return will bolster the D so much. He only played in what, one game? I DID like the fact that, unlike Smoot, he DID end up actually hitting the QB when he blitzed.

celts32 03-27-2005 11:58 AM

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I went with Jansen. He may be the best most consistent player on the team. He is also the unquestioned leader of the offense. The O-line and the entire team missed him badly.

skinsguy 03-27-2005 03:06 PM

Re: Comeback Redskin of 2005
 
Jansen without a doubt! He will help us out tremendously with the offensive line this year! Our D appears to be quite flexible (not in the sense of playing but being able to plug in other players), so I feel Arrington's "comeback" will be overshadowed by Jansens.

TheMalcolmConnection 03-27-2005 04:58 PM

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I would like to think it would be overshadowed, but we all know how publicity goes with the offensive line. Jansen will come back and Portis will rush for 1500+ yards and it will be all "the great running of Portis." Also, being the big star Arrington is, I just have this feeling that Jansen will not get his credit when it is due.

Only the "educated" fans like us will really notice and give him his props.

doc 03-27-2005 05:02 PM

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Sean Taylor and Lavar Arrington on the field at the same time for sixteen games. The oppossing offense will need 14 players. :biggthump

TheMalcolmConnection 03-27-2005 05:06 PM

Re: Comeback Redskin of 2005
 
And MAYBE Rolle...

skinsguy 03-27-2005 05:49 PM

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]I would like to think it would be overshadowed, but we all know how publicity goes with the offensive line. Jansen will come back and Portis will rush for 1500+ yards and it will be all "the great running of Portis." Also, being the big star Arrington is, I just have this feeling that Jansen will not get his credit when it is due.

Only the "educated" fans like us will really notice and give him his props.[/QUOTE]


Yep! Right on!

mooby 03-27-2005 07:51 PM

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i think jansen and arrington will both have great comeback seasons. lavar has playmaker ability, which should result in more turnovers for us, and jansen will boost the offensive line and he is the unquestioned leader of the o line, but i think we should cut bowen. he had a couple good games last year, but we did fine without him(don't mention arrington because he is uncomparable to bowen in terms of talent) but if we did keep him i would like to see what he would be like at cornerback. or maybe they could move ryan clark or another safety to cornerback to fill smoot's void.

KLHJ2 03-27-2005 08:34 PM

Re: Comeback Redskin of 2005
 
[QUOTE=mooby]i think jansen and arrington will both have great comeback seasons. lavar has playmaker ability, which should result in more turnovers for us, and jansen will boost the offensive line and he is the unquestioned leader of the o line, but i think we should cut bowen. he had a couple good games last year, but we did fine without him(don't mention arrington because he is uncomparable to bowen in terms of talent) but if we did keep him i would like to see what he would be like at cornerback. or maybe they could move ryan clark or another safety to cornerback to fill smoot's void.[/QUOTE]

Well said, I agree with you 99.95%. Keep in mind that Lott was a CB in college and moved to safety in the NFL. He could be a solid nickle with Taylor and Bowen at safety. Keep Springs at one side and let Jimoh and Brown duke it out at the other side. We would still have depth at CB, FS, and SS.

hank64 03-27-2005 09:28 PM

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How about a vote for the coaching staff returning entact. Thats gonna help.

ChounsMan 03-28-2005 10:23 AM

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Lavar will be HUGE this season as he had to endure a season on the bench. Lavar loves to play football & will be primed for his return in '05.

mooby 03-28-2005 12:18 PM

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i agree with you there. i think we should start sean taylor and pierson proleau at safety, and put bowen, lott, and any other capable starters at cornerback. we would be fine even in smoot's absence. joe gibbs even said that garnell wilds was the fastest man on the team, and he covered randy moss.

sportscurmudgeon 03-28-2005 12:22 PM

Re: Comeback Redskin of 2005
 
Jansen's injury last summer was the single worst thing to happen to the Redskins team INCLUDING the arrival of and the playing time given to a washed-up Mark Brunell.

If Jansen plays in 2005 at 90% or better of what he was in 2003, this will be the best thing that will happen to the Redskins in 2005.

Last year, the blocking by tight ends and h-backs and running backs had to worry about what was coming at them from the left side and the right side and up the gut. With Jansen playing well - and Thomas playing as he usually does, most of the focus of these secndary blockers can be on the left side and up the gut. That will be a tremendous step forward for those players!

TheMalcolmConnection 03-28-2005 01:10 PM

Re: Comeback Redskin of 2005
 
[QUOTE=sportscurmudgeon]Jansen's injury last summer was the single worst thing to happen to the Redskins team INCLUDING the arrival of and the playing time given to a washed-up Mark Brunell.

If Jansen plays in 2005 at 90% or better of what he was in 2003, this will be the best thing that will happen to the Redskins in 2005.

Last year, the blocking by tight ends and h-backs and running backs had to worry about what was coming at them from the left side and the right side and up the gut. With Jansen playing well - and Thomas playing as he usually does, most of the focus of these secndary blockers can be on the left side and up the gut. That will be a tremendous step forward for those players![/QUOTE]

You feeling OK? That was uncharacteristically positive. :)

SKINZ_DOMIN8 03-28-2005 01:30 PM

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[QUOTE]

Third, I still STRONGLY believe that Ramsey has enormous potential. Give the guy a good coaching staff (which he has), a good offensive line (which he'll have with Rabach and Jansen), a good running back (which he has with Portis), and decent wideouts and any quarterback will look decent. For those reasons, I think Ramsey will shine.

[/QUOTE]


You Ramsey-jock sniffers are hillarious. Your hero hasn't proven jack nor shown jack. He has gotten chance after chance and still his win-loss record is putrid.

But you losers will keep making up excuses for him.

Draft Leinart.

sportscurmudgeon 03-28-2005 01:35 PM

Re: Comeback Redskin of 2005
 
Malcom:

Thank you for your concern. I'm feeling perfectly fine. :food-smil

Actually, most of my posts here try to deal with what I see as the reality of the situation with regard to the Washington Redskins and the NFL in general. Compared to the prevailing tone here of looking at the world through rose colored glasses - with burgundy and gold frames of course - I come off sounding "negative".

For example, when I criticized the Skins' WR corps last year, I was told that the Skins had WRs that were in the top 3 of the league. It's fine to want that to be true, but when I took a look at the end of the season and did a realistic check, I don't think that was the case. :vomit-smi

But I'm feeling just fine here in Curmudgeon Central. I might have an obligation to offer some contrary remarks if anyone here decides to say that the most important comeback for a Redskin in 2005 would be Rock Cartwright or Sultan McCullough. But so far, we seem not to have anyone in danger of treading into that uncharted terriroty!

Redskins_P 03-28-2005 01:46 PM

Re: Comeback Redskin of 2005
 
[QUOTE=SKINZ_DOMIN8]You Ramsey-jock sniffers are hillarious. Your hero hasn't proven jack nor shown jack. He has gotten chance after chance and still his win-loss record is putrid.

But you losers will keep making up excuses for him.

Draft Leinart.[/QUOTE]


draft Leinart? He's not even in the draft.

Hey shithead, if we're all losers then get your retarded ass outta here.

What a joke.

RedskinRat 03-28-2005 01:50 PM

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[QUOTE=Redskins_P]draft Leinart? He's not even in the draft.

Hey shithead, if we're all losers then get your retarded ass outta here.

What a joke.[/QUOTE]


Redskins_P, please don't feed the Troll.


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