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44Deezel 12-30-2013 03:45 PM

The Redskins Head Coach job is the best opening available
 
Any team firing their head coach today or in the near future is doing so because they had a bad season. While it would be nice to coach Tom Brady and the Patriots or Drew Brees and the Saints, those jobs aren’t opening up anytime soon. And while 3-13 is horrible and inexcusable, it’s never as bad as it seems (or never as good for that matter)

That said, there is no ideal situation to walk into, but I believe the Redskins job is the best of the bad situations and here’s why:


1) The QB situation – This is entirely contingent on what the new coach thinks of RG3, but any coach who thinks he has the potential to become an elite QB has to be salivating over this job. Teams with elite QBs contend just about every year and can withstand injury and Legal issues (Aaron Hernandez). Behind most Hall of Fame coaches is a Hall of Fame QB. There’s a reason why the list of coaches to win Super Bowls with multiple QBs is as short as it is with Coach Joe squarely at the top;)

2) Roster – The notion that this roster needs to be totally rebuilt is false (IMO). The same roster won the division just a year ago AND even the best teams in the league are flawed in one or more areas. We’re in an era where recent Super Bowl winning teams had Defenses that ranked near the bottom of the league. The Giants and Pats squared off a few years ago when both Defensive units ranked near the bottom. Pro-bowl caliber players on the roster today – TW, RG3, DY, Garcon, ALFMO, DHall, Orakpo (might be gone), Kerrigan. The 2009 team had 55 players that weren’t in the league a year later. That’s not near the case with this team and there is a foundation on which to build upon.

3) The young Offensive nucleus – 2012 Rookie of the Year at QB, 1600 yard rusher in Alfmo, the league leader in receptions in Garcon, one of the best Left Tackles in the NFL in Trent Williams, Jordan Reed and DY would be coveted by any team. #1 rushing attack last year and top 5 this year. Top 5Offense from last year.


4) The BEST Salary CAP situation in the NFC. The Bears is a little better, but they may have to shell out for Cutler.

5) Team friendly contracts – Say what you want about Shanny and Bruce Allen, but they haven’t hamstrung the organization with egregious contracts that will adversely impact the team for years to come.

6) MONEY - Most fans would point to Snyder as the #1 reason NOT to come here, but he will spend on coaches.

7) The Skins will be playing a last place schedule next year. Only 2 games, but everything helps.

8) The Skins play in the worst division in the league with 2 of the 4 team's starting QBs at the tail end of their careers and one coming off back surgery.

9) The DC area and fanbase. The Redskins are one of the most valuable sports franchises IN THE WORLD. This ain't Jacksonville or some city that has to compete with baseball or basketball. The Redskins are the king of DC sports and it's not even close. You win here and you're a GOD.

10) The Alternatives – Cleveland just fired their coach after 1 year, Houston, Tampa and Minnesota have huge question marks at QB. Detroit is intriguing and may be our stiffest competition, but they’ve been as bad as us over the last 20 years.

DynamiteRave 12-30-2013 03:47 PM

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On paper, it's probably the best.

But taking the media circus into consideration and how the last HC spent the last half of the season throwing the owner and practically the organization under the bus, I think it's probably the worst.

Lotus 12-30-2013 04:04 PM

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1052216]On paper, it's probably the best.

[B]But taking the media circus into consideration and how the last HC spent the last half of the season throwing the owner and practically the organization under the bus, I think it's probably the worst.[/B][/quote]

I'm not sure that that matters all that much because a new regime should confidently know that it can set a new tone. I'm thinking here of the trainwreck Vick/Petrino Falcons, who had a disaster season full of drama which was wiped clean pretty quickly by the new admin.

donofriose 12-30-2013 04:06 PM

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I think Houston will be more coveted by coaches.
Both Washington and Houston had QBs who made the pro bowl in 2012 and won their division. They both played terribly this year so RG3 is not a for sure thing at QB that coaches would want to come here for. Plus Houston has the number one pick if a coach wants to draft his own guy and develop him. That would be very attractive to a lot of coaches.

MTK 12-30-2013 04:18 PM

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There are a couple of jobs out there more desirable than this one.

skinsfan69 12-30-2013 04:19 PM

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I would agree. It's not Minnesota but it's just not what it use to be around here.

Paintrain 12-30-2013 04:26 PM

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I think the Redskins are the fourth most attractive option:
1. Houston-Playmakers on both sides of the ball, strong leadership/front office, #1 pick. A QB away from being a playoff team again.

2. Detroit-Again, playmakers on both sides of the ball, strong GM, strong OL & DL, young QB who has been successful.

3. Tampa-Talented roster but unclear if it 'fits' cohesively to make a team. May have a QB, tough division.

4. Washington-QB, LT, RB, WR, TE in place. Defensively, basically have some good spare parts but not enough to even field a unit. Major FO/ownership questions.

5. Cleveland-Some talent on both sides of the ball, specifically WR, TE, CB & S. 2 1st round picks. No faith in FO/ownership, disgruntled fan base.

6. Minnesota-Aging defense, Peterson for a couple more good years, weapons with speed but playing at a college stadium/outdoors in Minnesota for 2 yrs may not be a good fit.

skinsfan69 12-30-2013 04:30 PM

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[quote=Paintrain;1052232]I think the Redskins are the fourth most attractive option:
1. Houston-Playmakers on both sides of the ball, strong leadership/front office, #1 pick. A QB away from being a playoff team again.

2. Detroit-Again, playmakers on both sides of the ball, strong GM, strong OL & DL, young QB who has been successful.

3. Tampa-Talented roster but unclear if it 'fits' cohesively to make a team. May have a QB, tough division.

4. Washington-QB, LT, RB, WR, TE in place. Defensively, basically have some good spare parts but not enough to even field a unit. Major FO/ownership questions.

5. Cleveland-Some talent on both sides of the ball, specifically WR, TE, CB & S. 2 1st round picks. No faith in FO/ownership, disgruntled fan base.

6. Minnesota-Aging defense, Peterson for a couple more good years, weapons with speed but playing at a college stadium/outdoors in Minnesota for 2 yrs may not be a good fit.[/quote]

I would put this job above TB but below Houston and Detroit. The Glazier family sure do turn on coaches quickly.

Paintrain 12-30-2013 04:33 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1052233]I would put this job above TB but below Houston and Detroit. The Glazier family sure do turn on coaches quickly.[/quote]

Yeah, it's really close IMO between us and Tampa.. No 1st round pick was the difference to bump us down one for me.

donofriose 12-30-2013 04:33 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1052233]I would put this job above TB but below Houston and Detroit. The Glazier family sure do turn on coaches quickly.[/quote]

That is how I would have it ranked as well.

The front office situation at Washington for the past two decades makes it more difficult for a coach to come in and think he will have the tools to be successful.

diehardskin2982 12-30-2013 04:35 PM

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We are the 2nd or 3rd best jobs in the league. The Lions have a culture problem. A head coach can fix that and I believe they have pending cap issues.

The Goat 12-30-2013 04:36 PM

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Great thread. Houston is probably as desirable as DC, but not by much. That team has less talent on offense IMO, but more on defense.

The Lions are the most talented team looking for a new HC but have a really lousy cap situation and play in a damn tough division with the Packers and a Bears team that probably gets better next year.

BDBohnzie 12-30-2013 04:43 PM

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IMO, the only job I have ranked below the Skins is Cleveland. Houston and Detroit have a lot of talent on both sides of the ball and aren't too far away from running deep into the playoffs. Minny and Tampa run next talent wise, and do not have the circus atmosphere that Washington has. Plus they both have their first round picks in the coming draft.

This Skins team has to undergo a lot of turnover in order to compete and ship their #2 pick to St. Louis. Granted there are some key pieces, but the turmoil of the last several weeks plus Snyder's track record really hurts anyone willing to come here.

And I only have Cleveland below the Skins because of the way they handled this year. Gave a raw guy a chance, took away his running game to build for the future, had to go through a carousel of QBs and then dump him when he goes 4-12.

Don't get me wrong, I am hopeful that the situation will work out, but if I'm a coach looking for a job, I'm not jumping on the phone to my agent to tell him to get me an interview for Ringling Brothers.

KI Skins Fan 12-30-2013 04:57 PM

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[quote=BDBohnzie;1052239]Don't get me wrong, I am hopeful that the situation will work out, but if I'm a coach looking for a job, I'm not jumping on the phone to my agent to tell him to get me an interview for Ringling Brothers.[/quote]

IMO, the circus just left town.

BDBohnzie 12-30-2013 05:07 PM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1052245]IMO, the circus just left town.[/quote]
That is my hope, but there is one remaining link to the past 14 years, and he's still here. As long as Snyder is the Skins owner, there are going to be outsiders that look at this team as a circus, and that accounts into what candidates think.

backrow 12-30-2013 05:40 PM

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[quote=Paintrain;1052234]Yeah, it's really close IMO between us and Tampa.. No 1st round pick was the difference to bump us down one for me.[/quote]

+1! Maybe down one more notch just because of the rabid media and crazy fan base! Oh, that's right, we are the fan base!

SolidSnake84 12-30-2013 05:55 PM

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[quote=BDBohnzie;1052250]That is my hope, but there is one remaining link to the past 14 years, and he's still here. As long as Snyder is the Skins owner, there are going to be outsiders that look at this team as a circus, and that accounts into what candidates think.[/quote]

I agree with this post. I have had my share of hate on Snyder, as many of us have. I still believe that he gives his input who on who he thinks should play, and i believe that if the coaches disagree, he forces his will a little bit, which is his right i guess as owner. I think back to when Portis and other guys only had jobs because Dan said they did. Portis was at the point where he really shouldn't be a starter anymore, and they kept him in the lineup. But that's water under the bridge....

My thoughts are this: In 14 years, is it realistic to say that EVERY single coach was the wrong one for the job, or we just picked the wrong players, or the wrong coordinators, etc?? I just think it's hard to believe that every coach comes here and for the most part fails miserably because they are the wrong guy...i just think the problems start at the top and work their way down. It affects everyone and everything.

A new head coach = probably having a losing year next year (maybe not, we have an easy schedule supposedly), hoping for improvement by the 2nd year. Does Snyder fire again if this new coach (whoever he is) turns out 2 bad years in a row??? Questions that i think are worth asking...

SFREDSKIN 12-30-2013 06:39 PM

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Washington is the best franchise of all the vacancies, franchise QB, good nucleus of young talent (could be next year's KC), 5 SB appearances (even if it was long ago) best fan base, cap space, hungry owner.

NC_Skins 12-30-2013 07:03 PM

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[quote=Paintrain;1052232]2. Detroit-Again, playmakers on both sides of the ball, strong GM, strong OL & DL, young QB who has been successful.[/quote]



Detroit is about to hit a salary cap brick wall within the next two years. Stafford, Johnson, and Suh's contracts have crippled them and their idiot GM played "kick the can" with their contracts like Vinny did. Even in cutting one or two, that cap will be hamstrung by dead cap money.

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1642954-5-teams-facing-dire-salary-cap-situations-in-2014/page/4]5 Teams Facing Dire Salary Cap Situations in 2014 | Bleacher Report[/url]


Three players alone are going to account for 53.5 million of their salary cap and they are looking at 15 over the cap. Keep in mind, they've already restructured Staffords and Johnson's contracts.

Granted, if the object is to get there win within these next two years and jet, I'd say this is the best coaching spot available outside of the Texans.

OmahaRedskins 12-30-2013 07:29 PM

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We can all agree that Snyder been a meddling owner, but most respectable source say he has been very hands off over the last few years. These reports of Snyder interfering with RG3 and the RG3 character assignation were leaked by “The Shanny”. For whatever reason, he wanted out of town last year. I believe he knew it wasn’t working between him and Baby Shanny. Instead of firing his son and admitting he made the mistake, he tried to get fired and take the heat from “lil Shanny”

44Deezel 12-30-2013 07:37 PM

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1052216]On paper, it's probably the best.

But taking the media circus into consideration and how the last HC spent the last half of the season throwing the owner and practically the organization under the bus, I think it's probably the worst.[/quote]

It's only a media circus if they lose. Any candidate who's afraid of what will happen IF they lose need not apply. I think we'd all rather have candidates who are 100% confident in their ability to win. Being scared of losing is a defeatist mentality.

Any candidate for an NFL head coaching job has to have accomplished something in life, so I doubt they consider the ramifications for being unsuccessful the way fans sitting on their couches do. These guys all have egos and expect to win.

44Deezel 12-30-2013 07:41 PM

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[quote=donofriose;1052224]I think Houston will be more coveted by coaches.
Both Washington and Houston had QBs who made the pro bowl in 2012 and won their division. They both played terribly this year so RG3 is not a for sure thing at QB that coaches would want to come here for. Plus Houston has the number one pick if a coach wants to draft his own guy and develop him. That would be very attractive to a lot of coaches.[/quote]

Good points. But I'd be concerned about the health of their #1 asset on Offense, Arian Foster, and the age of the #2 asset, Andre Johnson. Also, I think Schaub having a bad year at the stage of his career vs. RG3 in only his 2nd year is more concerning.

But I don't doubt that some candidates might find that to be a better situation.

44Deezel 12-30-2013 07:49 PM

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[quote=The Goat;1052238]Great thread. Houston is probably as desirable as DC, but not by much. That team has less talent on offense IMO, but more on defense.

The Lions are the most talented team looking for a new HC but have a really lousy cap situation and play in a damn tough division with the Packers and a Bears team that probably gets better next year.[/quote]

Good points on Detroit's division and cap issues. You also have to wonder why they haven't been more successful with the talent they have on Offense - namely, a 5000 yard passer and Megatron.

If this year was an aberration for RG3, the next coach is going to have success without having to do anything.

I think the situation here is unique with the $36 mil cap penalty over the last 2 years. The situation should drastically improve by default. The new coach will have a much greater opportunity to immediately improve the roster and will have a full compliment of draft picks in just their second year.

What's the contract situation with Stafford? If he's taking up too much of their cap, it's going to be more difficult to put the pieces they need around him.

44Deezel 12-30-2013 07:51 PM

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[quote=BDBohnzie;1052250]That is my hope, but there is one remaining link to the past 14 years, and he's still here. As long as Snyder is the Skins owner, there are going to be outsiders that look at this team as a circus, and that accounts into what candidates think.[/quote]

I don't think he's done anything over the last 4 years to scare anyone off and Bruce Allen is well respected. Snyder gave Shanny 4 years and didn't fire him mid-season in a knee-jerk reaction to their miserable record. And, again, he's not afraid to spend on coaches.

The next coach should feel confident that he'll get a fair shake and will be given every opportunity to win.

irish 12-31-2013 07:53 AM

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[quote=diehardskin2982;1052237]We are the 2nd or 3rd best jobs in the league. The Lions have a culture problem. A head coach can fix that and I believe they have pending cap issues.[/quote]

Nobody has a bigger culture problem than the Skins.

Gary84Clark 12-31-2013 08:05 AM

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[quote=irish;1052361]Nobody has a bigger culture problem than the Skins.[/quote]

Ah yes teh great american past time. The culture wars. Lert's leave it out of football please.

RFKRat 12-31-2013 08:40 AM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1052264]Washington is the best franchise of all the vacancies, franchise QB, good nucleus of young talent (could be next year's KC), 5 SB appearances (even if it was long ago) best fan base, cap space, hungry owner.[/quote]

This franchise is a disaster. Surf around, look at what other media outlets are saying about the Redskins. Other fanbases. People around the NFL. A franchise QB you say? Others say an overrated, arrogant, me-first guy who has issues with his coaches and some teammates. Not to mention having his Daddy hanging around making unneccessary demands, "suggestions" etc. A good nucleus of young talent?? What? Really? This team is awful in so many areas, here again is where too many fans think they have a better team than what's really here. I mean...3-13..let that sink in. Good talent?

5 SB's?? Really? The last one was how many years ago? Nobody gives a flying fart what happened in 1992. How many playoff wins since then?

Best fan base? Really? You mean the one that for years only shows up when the team is winning? Did you not see the KC game? The Dallas game where over half the stadium was cheering for Dallas? This fan base is the biggest bandwagon rider in the league and has been for years.

Cap space? They don't have nearly as much as some other teams do. Besides the Redskins have so many holes they need ten times as much as they have to go get anyone good. Not that many good FAs will want to come to this train wreck of a team. And many other teams have all their draft picks as well.

A hungry owner? What? You mean an arrogant, meddling, weasel of an owner? The atmosphere here is poisonous....there's no other way to put it. Coaches will always be under Danny's thumb here.

This franchise, the one that stood for honor, winning, integrity, etc is DEAD. Gone. It will never be the glory years again. The problem is there are too many fans that think a snap of the fingers will fix things and they'll be a contender again, so they keep forking over money to Danny for tickets and merchandise, etc...and the team ends up sucking again and again and again. No matter who coaches, who gets drafted, signed as free agents, it's always the same....

I think this job is easily one of the worst in the league now, if not the absolute worst. Listening to Allen blather on about how "the right people are in charge now" etc made me want to puke. Isn't that what they said about the Shanahans, etc...

Nothing is going to change here.

Lotus 12-31-2013 08:41 AM

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1052364]Ah yes teh great american past time. The culture wars. Lert's leave it out of football please.[/quote]

Talking about the culture of a locker room is very different than talking about general public culture wars.

htownskinfan 12-31-2013 08:50 AM

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[quote=RFKRat;1052382]This franchise is a disaster. Surf around, look at what other media outlets are saying about the Redskins. Other fanbases. People around the NFL. A franchise QB you say? Others say an overrated, arrogant, me-first guy who has issues with his coaches and some teammates. Not to mention having his Daddy hanging around making unneccessary demands, "suggestions" etc. A good nucleus of young talent?? What? Really? This team is awful in so many areas, here again is where too many fans think they have a better team than what's really here. I mean...3-13..let that sink in. Good talent?

5 SB's?? Really? The last one was how many years ago? Nobody gives a flying fart what happened in 1992. How many playoff wins since then?

Best fan base? Really? You mean the one that for years only shows up when the team is winning? Did you not see the KC game? The Dallas game where over half the stadium was cheering for Dallas? This fan base is the biggest bandwagon rider in the league and has been for years.

Cap space? They don't have nearly as much as some other teams do. Besides the Redskins have so many holes they need ten times as much as they have to go get anyone good. Not that many good FAs will want to come to this train wreck of a team. And many other teams have all their draft picks as well.

A hungry owner? What? You mean an arrogant, meddling, weasel of an owner? The atmosphere here is poisonous....there's no other way to put it. Coaches will always be under Danny's thumb here.

This franchise, the one that stood for honor, winning, integrity, etc is DEAD. Gone. It will never be the glory years again. The problem is there are too many fans that think a snap of the fingers will fix things and they'll be a contender again, so they keep forking over money to Danny for tickets and merchandise, etc...and the team ends up sucking again and again and again. No matter who coaches, who gets drafted, signed as free agents, it's always the same....

I think this job is easily one of the worst in the league now, if not the absolute worst. Listening to Allen blather on about how "the right people are in charge now" etc made me want to puke. Isn't that what they said about the Shanahans, etc...

Nothing is going to change here.[/quote]

Wow is that negative!
Unfortunately I cant say your wrong about anything

If I had my choice of the openings I would pick the Texans.Great owner,have the first pick in the draft.If they draft the right qb I think they'll be ready to go

MTK 12-31-2013 09:02 AM

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Like any opening, there are pros and cons here. It's not all doom and gloom. There's talent on the offense, the team will have more than enough cap room to make some impact moves, and it's a high profile gig.

skinsguy 12-31-2013 09:26 AM

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I don't see the Redskins gig anymore worse than the Cleveland gig.

htownskinfan 12-31-2013 09:51 AM

[QUOTE=skinsguy;1052391]I don't see the Redskins gig anymore worse than the Cleveland gig.[/QUOTE]


Can't argue with that!

44Deezel 12-31-2013 10:03 AM

Re: The Redskins Head Coach job is the best opening available
 
[quote=RFKRat;1052382]This franchise is a disaster. Surf around, look at what other media outlets are saying about the Redskins. Other fanbases. People around the NFL. A franchise QB you say? Others say an overrated, arrogant, me-first guy who has issues with his coaches and some teammates. Not to mention having his Daddy hanging around making unneccessary demands, "suggestions" etc. A good nucleus of young talent?? What? Really? This team is awful in so many areas, here again is where too many fans think they have a better team than what's really here. I mean...3-13..let that sink in. Good talent?

5 SB's?? Really? The last one was how many years ago? Nobody gives a flying fart what happened in 1992. How many playoff wins since then?

Best fan base? Really? You mean the one that for years only shows up when the team is winning? Did you not see the KC game? The Dallas game where over half the stadium was cheering for Dallas? This fan base is the biggest bandwagon rider in the league and has been for years.

Cap space? They don't have nearly as much as some other teams do. Besides the Redskins have so many holes they need ten times as much as they have to go get anyone good. Not that many good FAs will want to come to this train wreck of a team. And many other teams have all their draft picks as well.

A hungry owner? What? You mean an arrogant, meddling, weasel of an owner? The atmosphere here is poisonous....there's no other way to put it. Coaches will always be under Danny's thumb here.

This franchise, the one that stood for honor, winning, integrity, etc is DEAD. Gone. It will never be the glory years again. The problem is there are too many fans that think a snap of the fingers will fix things and they'll be a contender again, so they keep forking over money to Danny for tickets and merchandise, etc...and the team ends up sucking again and again and again. No matter who coaches, who gets drafted, signed as free agents, it's always the same....

I think this job is easily one of the worst in the league now, if not the absolute worst. Listening to Allen blather on about how "the right people are in charge now" etc made me want to puke. Isn't that what they said about the Shanahans, etc...

Nothing is going to change here.[/quote]

Totally agree that if RG3 is a bust, this team will continue to sink into the bottomless abyss with no end in sight (Trying to come up with apocalytic language to match your depressing tone).

But who don't you think is talented? Won't even mention RG3.
- Garcon
- Trent Williams
- Alfred Morris
- Darrel Young
- Jordan Reed
- Ryan Kerrigan
- Orakpo (yes, he might be gone)
- DHall

And have you already concluded that guys like Amerson, Riley Jr., Rob Jackson and Crawford have no future in this league? Bowen and Coefield are unemployable?

FACT: 55 guys on the 2009 roster were OUT OF THE LEAGUE within a year.

How many guys on this team wouldn't find work with another team?

Yes, 3-13 can't be ignored. But you can't ignore the fact that this same roster won the division just last year, are in the best CAP position in the NFC and that it's not unheard of for teams to go from worst to first or vice versa every year. There's a reason no team has won the NFC East 2 years in a row in over a decade. Parity.

The NFL is totally unpredicable and somewhat random. No one is arguing the Redskins will be Super Bowl bound next year, but I don't believe they're in a tailspin that will take years to recover from either... UNLESS RG3 turns out to be a total bust.

To me, it all comes down to him.... not the next coach or Snyder or Ancient Indian curses that have been placed on the team;)

skinsfaninok 12-31-2013 10:22 AM

[QUOTE=htownskinfan;1052384]Wow is that negative!
Unfortunately I cant say your wrong about anything

If I had my choice of the openings I would pick the Texans.Great owner,have the first pick in the draft.If they draft the right qb I think they'll be ready to go[/QUOTE]

Idk, foster is always hurt and AJ is getting old and I wouldn't be shocked if he's gone soon. The d is solid but they have no qb at all.

Chico23231 12-31-2013 10:25 AM

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Probably need to start a thread, but 980 stating Bevell to interview this weekend. Ian OConner I believe too, not sure

SmootSmack 12-31-2013 10:28 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;1052386]Like any opening, there are pros and cons here. It's not all doom and gloom. There's talent on the offense, the team will have more than enough cap room to make some impact moves, and it's a high profile gig.[/quote]

Thank you. Plus no one ever considers that there are personal preferences, and family considerations that will sway a potential coach toward or away from DC. Every potential HC has their own list of best to worst situations

MTK 12-31-2013 10:34 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;1052417]Thank you. Plus no one ever considers that there are personal preferences, and family considerations that will sway a potential coach toward or away from DC. Every potential HC has their own list of best to worst situations[/quote]

Plus if someone finally manages to make a winner out of this team, he'll be a freaking legend. Sainthood awaits anyone that can win a SB here.

SFREDSKIN 12-31-2013 11:20 AM

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Despite the circus atmosphere surrounding this franchise, I believe Snyder/Allen and others are very aware of how they are perceived and want to attract someone that will come and win. Winning cures dysfunction.

SolidSnake84 12-31-2013 07:00 PM

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I think if a guy comes here its going to be all about the money. No coach in the NFL is going to be paid more than what we will pay for the two years or so that they will be here.

how long is the leash on the next coach? I think that's a good question to ask. Is it one and done if the team tanks?

Lots of people are betting the house on Griffin being new and improved next year. Why?? What could anyone have seen out of him this year that suggested a dramatic comeback next year? Sure i'll accept that his knee is not 100% and probably never will be again, but did he all of sudden turn into a pocket passer? Is the RGME attitude left behind? I think those are all fair questions.

Last question on my mind is how anyone would be beating the door down to work for Mr. Snyder knowing his history with coaches, and the team's well known and publicized dysfunction from the top all the way to the bottom. I think it speaks volumes that in 14 years, we've only won the division twice. Almost on pace for a while with a new coach every year. I just don't see how a respectable coach could believe he had a snowball's chance in hell and being anything other than mediocre.

Mechanix544 12-31-2013 07:52 PM

Re: The Redskins Head Coach job is the best opening available
 
[quote=SolidSnake84;1052608]I think if a guy comes here its going to be all about the money. No coach in the NFL is going to be paid more than what we will pay for the two years or so that they will be here.

how long is the leash on the next coach? I think that's a good question to ask. Is it one and done if the team tanks?

Lots of people are betting the house on Griffin being new and improved next year. Why?? What could anyone have seen out of him this year that suggested a dramatic comeback next year? Sure i'll accept that his knee is not 100% and probably never will be again, but did he all of sudden turn into a pocket passer? Is the RGME attitude left behind? I think those are all fair questions.

Last question on my mind is how anyone would be beating the door down to work for Mr. Snyder knowing his history with coaches, and the team's well known and publicized dysfunction from the top all the way to the bottom. I think it speaks volumes that in 14 years, we've only won the division twice. Almost on pace for a while with a new coach every year. I just don't see how a respectable coach could believe he had a snowball's chance in hell and being anything other than mediocre.[/quote]

Look, Im the first one that is hoping and praying RG3 returns to Heisman form. I may be a bit of a homer, but look at it through these lenses.

- Him and Shanny, as well as his OC, did not really get along, and according to multiple sources, were never on the same page

- Got a very serious injury at the end of his first year, and did not have a true offseason

- Came back early on said knee

- Had to work with alot of dropped balls, horrible playcalling and a defense that put the team behind almost immediately every game (ala they knew we would be throwing)

- Didn't have any reps in preseason, first real reps after his surgery was basically in the first week of the season

- Still did not put up horrible numbers. 16 TD's and 12 INT's, while not as good as the previous year, was a very decent product of the things going on in the organization, plus, he didnt play the last three games.


I may be the ultimate homer, but I think anyone writing this kid off as a diva that overachieved for one season, and is now a bust, will have a rude awakening in the next few years. Once his knee is 100%, and he WASN'T 100% this year, he will be back in form.


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