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MTK 03-04-2014 04:09 PM

Redskins release five including Carriker, Rocca
 
[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/football-washington-redskins/talk/redskins-release-five-including-carriker-rocca]Redskins release five including Carriker, Rocca | Comcast SportsNet Washington[/url]

The Redskins announced that they have released five players.

They terminated the contracts of P Sav Rocca, TE Richard Quinn and DE Adam Carriker. They also waived running backs Jawan Jamison and Davin Meggett.

mooby 03-04-2014 04:14 PM

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Good luck to Carriker resurrecting his career, I always liked him when he was here but 2 years on the bench due to injury pretty much signaled the end of his career here. I like Rocca too but his inconsistency hurt us.

donofriose 03-04-2014 04:14 PM

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It was pretty obvious when you look at their cap hits. Surprised Bowen didn't get restructured or released.

MTK 03-04-2014 04:21 PM

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I hope Carriker gets another shot here assuming he's 100%... vet min anyone?

KI Skins Fan 03-04-2014 04:22 PM

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[quote=donofriose;1061516]It was pretty obvious when you look at their cap hits. [B]Surprised Bowen didn't get restructured or released.[/B][/quote]

He must have hid in the Laundry Room when he saw other players being called into Bruce Allen's office. That's the only reasonable explanation.

Schneed10 03-04-2014 04:23 PM

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Yeah bring back Carriker on the cheap. High effort, high character guy. If he can't make it back then roster cut.

The Dull Roar 03-04-2014 04:35 PM

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It's only a matter of time before Bowen is restructured or cut. His production and injury history don't merit the money he is going to receive. Especially after re-signing Baker.

Chico23231 03-04-2014 04:37 PM

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[quote=The Dull Roar;1061525]It's only a matter of time before Bowen is restructured or cut. His production and injury history don't merit the money he is going to receive. Especially after re-signing Baker.[/quote]

Agree. Hate to say I told you so on that contract when we got him, but yeah I told you so.

JoeRedskin 03-04-2014 04:41 PM

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In terms of cap consequences Carriker is the only big name. (Per the cap sheets)

Carriker release saves 3.2 in cap space.
Rocca = 1.2M
Quinn = .7M
Jamison, Megget = ~.5 each.

Net savings ~6M, though I am sure that it isn't that simple.

Schneed10 03-04-2014 04:57 PM

Re: Redskins release five including Carriker, Rocca
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;1061527]In terms of cap consequences Carriker is the only big name. (Per the cap sheets)

Carriker release saves 3.2 in cap space.
Rocca = 1.2M
Quinn = .7M
Jamison, Megget = ~.5 each.

Net savings ~6M, though I am sure that it isn't that simple.[/quote]

It almost is. Just add back about $500K each for the next 5 guys moving back into the top 51. So net cap room cleared is about $3.6M.

Likewise, if we sign another player for $1.5M, he bumps someone out of the top 51. So subtract $500K for a net cap hit of $1.0M.

Paintrain 03-04-2014 05:01 PM

Re: Redskins release five including Carriker, Rocca
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;1061527]In terms of cap consequences Carriker is the only big name. (Per the cap sheets)

Carriker release saves 3.2 in cap space.
Rocca = 1.2M
Quinn = .7M
Jamison, Megget = ~.5 each.

Net savings ~6M, though I am sure that it isn't that simple.[/quote]

Tandler pegged current cap room nearly $21.5 mil.

JoeRedskin 03-04-2014 05:13 PM

Re: Redskins release five including Carriker, Rocca
 
[quote=Schneed10;1061531]It almost is. Just add back about $500K each for the next 5 guys moving back into the top 51. So net cap room cleared is about $3.6M.

Likewise, if we sign another player for $1.5M, he bumps someone out of the top 51. So subtract $500K for a net cap hit of $1.0M.[/quote]

I just looked at the cap sheets again, according to the "Cap Summary" and my count, neither Megget nor Jamison were in the top 51.

If that's true, then cutting them wouldn't save space anyway - right?

CrazyCanuck 03-04-2014 06:39 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;1061523]Yeah bring back Carriker on the cheap. High effort, high character guy. If he can't make it back then roster cut.[/quote]

I don't disagree, but supposedly Keim said it's unlikely Carriker comes back even on the cheap. I think I heard it on Cooley's show today.

Schneed10 03-04-2014 07:54 PM

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[quote=CrazyCanuck;1061543]I don't disagree, but supposedly Keim said it's unlikely Carriker comes back even on the cheap. I think I heard it on Cooley's show today.[/quote]

Unlikely because they said Carriker wants to move on, or because the Skins don't want him anymore, or they didn't say?

FRPLG 03-04-2014 09:30 PM

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He failed a physical. Sounds like they're just moving on and don't expect him to be able to play.

DynamiteRave 03-04-2014 09:37 PM

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Bummer about Carriker. I really liked him as a person. As a player though it'll be interesting to see if another team snags him and if he can come back from that injury. 3 surgeries in a couple years doesn't tend to bode well for being explosive again.

Thank God Sav's gone. Guy was good for awhile but man these last couple of years has been rough. Wonder if he's going to hang it up, he's getting up there in age, but as per most K's/P's he can work into his early 40s.

skins89moss 03-04-2014 10:29 PM

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The house cleaning process has begun. Stay tuned for more in next few days and weeks .

GTripp0012 03-04-2014 10:51 PM

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I'm not surprised Bowen and Carriker weren't released on the same day, but if they do end up keeping Bowen one more season, that would be a bit surprising.

SirLK26 03-05-2014 02:20 PM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1061522]He must have hid in the Laundry Room when he saw other players being called into Bruce Allen's office. That's the only reasonable explanation.[/quote]

:lol: I laughed at this. Hilarious.

Bowen will have to take a pay cut if he wants to stick around. Even when healthy, he hasn't lived up to his contract. With Baker being resigned for miltiple years, it makes you wonder if he'll even be around next season...

Alvin Walton 03-05-2014 03:18 PM

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I don't get all the love for Carriker.
He hasn't done squat as a Redskin.

MTK 03-05-2014 03:21 PM

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1061671]I don't get all the love for Carriker.
He hasn't done squat as a Redskin.[/quote]

His 2011 season was pretty strong. Too bad he just can't get healthy.

skinsguy 03-05-2014 04:38 PM

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Who else is a strong possibility for the chopping block?

Chico23231 03-05-2014 04:46 PM

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[quote=skinsguy;1061688]Who else is a strong possibility for the chopping block?[/quote]

I would think Bowen and possible 2 on the Oline.

T.O.Killa 03-05-2014 04:49 PM

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If they cut Bowen it leaves 5 million in dead cap. They would save just under 2 million. Maybe they feel its worth a shot to see how he comes along in camp for just 2 million. What can you get on the dline for 2 mill. I say cut his ass and spend 4 to 6 on a healthy guy that can rush the passer a little.

Irrefutable 03-05-2014 05:14 PM

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1061671]I don't get all the love for Carriker.
He hasn't done squat as a Redskin.[/quote]

Carriker has been paid about $10 million dollars per tackle the last two years. if he cannot stay healthy he has no value.

Chico23231 03-05-2014 05:54 PM

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[quote=Irrefutable;1061696]Carriker has been paid about $10 million dollars per tackle the last two years. if he cannot stay healthy he has no value.[/quote]

I've seen you in those new hotels.com commercials. Nice work

Alvin Walton 03-05-2014 08:14 PM

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[quote=Irrefutable;1061696]Carriker has been paid about $10 million dollars per tackle the last two years. if he cannot stay healthy he has no value.[/quote]

A hot rock he is.

REDSKINS4ever 03-05-2014 11:37 PM

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Carriker missed 30 games and was due a whopping $6.5 million dollars against the cap....he was a great fit in the defense but it isn't surprising that he was let go.......

Alvin Walton 03-14-2014 11:06 AM

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Will Montgomery gets the boot!

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2014/03/14/redskins-release-c-will-montgomery/]Redskins release C Will Montgomery[/url]

Lotus 03-14-2014 11:13 AM

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^ the great OL swap has begun. Steiger and Chester shouldn't feel too comfortable.

Ruhskins 03-14-2014 11:32 AM

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[quote=Lotus;1063997]^ the great OL swap has begun. Steiger and Chester shouldn't feel too comfortable.[/quote]

Especially Chester.

JoeRedskin 03-14-2014 12:17 PM

[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1064000]Especially Chester.[/QUOTE]

Yup. Everything I have read has Stieger moving to center.

The way I see it: Lauvo (?) moves into Chester's spot, Stieger takes pivot and LeRib/Gettis/UFA takes Steiger's guard spot. Compton/UFA takes over for Polumbo.

Monkeydad 03-14-2014 01:15 PM

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[B]Williams - LeRibeus - Lichtensteiger - Lauvao -[/B] [I]Compton/FA/draft pick[/I]


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