I thought the Skins were done signing
 

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They see someone they want they'll jump on it we all know that.

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Good move. Cheap and a focused on fixing our weak special teams coverage.

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Now if only we could outright cut Brunell and Ramsey and bring in someone that will not look like a wounded, drunk, duck in the pocket we would be okay.

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[QUOTE=SKINZ_DOMIN8]Now if only we could outright cut Brunell and Ramsey and bring in someone that will not look like a wounded, drunk, duck in the pocket we would be okay.[/QUOTE]


Now if only we could get SKINZ_DOMIN8 to kick the crack habit and post sober.....

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[QUOTE=RedskinRat]Now if only we could get SKINZ_DOMIN8 to kick the crack habit and post sober.....[/QUOTE]


crack kills! :lol:

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Q: How do you make SKINZ_DOMIN8 laugh on Wednesday?
A: Tell him the joke on Sunday

Ba-Zing!!

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[QUOTE=RedskinRat]Now if only we could get SKINZ_DOMIN8 to kick the crack habit and post sober.....[/QUOTE]


Instead of resulting to insults why don't you attempt to prove me wrong? Or did I insult your man-crush on your boy Ramsey?

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[QUOTE=SKINZ_DOMIN8]Instead of resulting to insults why don't you attempt to prove me wrong? Or did I insult your man-crush on your boy Ramsey?[/QUOTE]

Why such hatred for Ramsey? We know his won-loss record-or better said the team's won-loss record, isn't over .500, but you really don't see the progress he's made? You don't see how he's had to learn a whole new offense, you don't see his raw talent? You really don't see any of that?

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God forbid we have a QB around for 4 years that is probably the longest stretch since Theismann no??

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]Why such hatred for Ramsey? We know his won-loss record-or better said the team's won-loss record, isn't over .500, but you really don't see the progress he's made? You don't see how he's had to learn a whole new offense, you don't see his raw talent? You really don't see any of that?[/QUOTE]

This is the exact reason I dislike this websites' hero Ramsey: The only thing his idiot fans can do is point to his "arm strength" or his "potential" (despite the fact that he has been given more chances than most qb's ever get.)

I find it quite telling that you freely admit his win-loss record is abyssmal. Isn't that what it is all about?

As far as progress.........what progress are you talking about?

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[QUOTE=Yellow31]God forbid we have a QB around for 4 years that is probably the longest stretch since Theismann no??[/QUOTE]


Except if that Qb sucks and has proven nothing (like your hero Ramseygirl) then what?

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[QUOTE=SKINZ_DOMIN8]This is the exact reason I dislike this websites' hero Ramsey: The only thing his idiot fans can do is point to his "arm strength" or his "potential" (despite the fact that he has been given more chances than most qb's ever get.)

I find it quite telling that you freely admit his win-loss record is abyssmal. Isn't that what it is all about?

As far as progress.........what progress are you talking about?[/QUOTE]

I guess I fall under the category of "idiot fan"

I'm pretty sure I wrote that the win-loss record isn't over .500, I didn't say abysmmal

Progress-I'm talking about learning to throw the ball away and not take a sack and loss of yards, I'm talking about checking off receivers, I'm talking about knowing when to call timeout. It's probably just me, I am afterall an idiot, but I do see him becoming a better QB

Who's your answer at QB?

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I'm tired of defending my opinion on Ramsey, but here it is again nice and simple.

I think he's got potential, like it or not he DOES have a strong arm. He's also a tough kid, he's got alot of the intangibles people look for.

I'm not saying he's the next Marino, I don't think anybody is stupid enough to say that. He's got a long way to go, but the potential for him being a quality QB is there.

If you disagree, fine, no problem. But at least let's have a logical discussion about it, all you've done, Skinz_domin8 (zackmills), is say how much he sucks, he's the biggest bust in Skins history, etc.

If that's your view, fine, but at least back it up with some original thought. I could at least respect a well thought out opinion.

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Give Ramsey (and the rest of the team) some continuity. The man now has to adjust to all new receivers (well, McCants, Thrash, and Jacobs, but he didn't exactly get many balls to them last year) and it's his 2nd year in a system. Let's look at QBs picked in round 1 that year.

David Carr - Carr is better. No arguments. You'd hope so for the #1 overall.
Joey Harrington - picked at #3, so far isn't as good as Ramsey, and in my mind has a better offense to work with. Roy Williams, and one game a year with Charles Rogers. Young team, granted. Still, he's been their downfall.
We then pickup Ramsey as the last pick in the first round. Not a bad investment.

Besides Josh McCown not a single other QB from that class has really seen any significant time on the field. So talent for price we got the best deal out of that QB class. Better than the #3 pick, but a little behind the #1. Not bad at all.

This was definitely one of Spurrier/Vinnies better personel pickups, in my opinion.

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SKINZ_DOMIN8, why do you keep saying that Ramsey is our hero? I haven't seen one post besides yours that said such. We just haven't given up on the guy yet. Maybe your not interested in a little continuity, that's all we want. We want the same qb in the same system for a few years. Why such hatred toward a guy that hasn't had a chance to show what he can do once in the same system for a few years? What are you going to say next offseason if Ramsey helps take us into the playoffs?

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Ramsey is MY hero. ;)

Anyway, I know someone said a while back that a lot of blame is placed on the QB. I'd really like to know who the Pro Bowl players were on offense on the teams that Ramsey has played on. Hmmm... I bet I could count those on one hand. It's all about supporting cast. I'm sure that the way Ramsey handed the ball off wasn't the reason the Redskins were losing his first couple of seasons. Could it be that there was no superstar tailback to speak of?

How about when the Redskins put up so many points in Spurrier's offense? Could it be that our defense gave up many more points than our offense scored? (except with Lewis) Also, could it be that Ramsey was beat up from getting sacked every other play.

If you're going with the logic that a bad win-loss record is the end-all in whether something or someone is good or not, why root for the Skins?

We didn't exactly have a winning season last year.

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[QUOTE=SKINZ_DOMIN8]This is the exact reason I dislike this websites' hero Ramsey: The only thing his idiot fans can do is point to his "arm strength" or his "potential" (despite the fact that he has been given more chances than most qb's ever get.)

I find it quite telling that you freely admit his win-loss record is abyssmal. Isn't that what it is all about?

As far as progress.........what progress are you talking about?[/QUOTE]

wow, now i can leave daseal alone, LOL

i love how you say "ramsey has been given more chances than most qb's ever get" but he's played under two coaches with two DRAMATICLY different offensive schemes. oh not to mention when spurrier gave up on coaching with us during the 2003 season and let our OC call some games (4 or 5 i think) with another different scheme. how can you possibly hate someone who was just learning to walk and a pair of rollerblades were thrown at him?

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]
I'm not saying he's the next Marino, I don't think anybody is stupid enough to say that. He's got a long way to go, but the potential for him being a quality QB is there.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I agree. Then again if our O-Line gave Ramsey the kind of time that Marino's O-Line gave HIM, I don't think we'd be having this discussion. We'd be talking about whether we were going to make the playoffs AGAIN!

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All you Ramsey haters get on the phone to Gibbsie at Redskins Park and let him now you are the one to QB the Skins. Better yet go there and show how well you throw the quickout and can throw it 70yds. and hit the wideout in perfect stride-and how nimble you are dodging blitzing linebackers-I have my complaints about Ramsey also-but after reading the interview he had with Fitzgerald I say backoff and give him a vote of confidence.

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SKINZ_DUMBIN8: You claim we all have this 'love affair' with Ramsey and I just don't see it. I do see many of the posters here viewing him as a healthy alternative to Brunell and a QB with potential. I also see, if anything, that you have a lot of hate for him. What are you anyway. his ex?

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It's useless to argue with someone who's illogical.

A year from now we'll see who's right.