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CRedskinsRule 07-31-2014 10:10 AM

Prediction time! the Pre PreSeason Prediction thread
 
It's Football time. HOF game is this weekend. I am fairly bullish again this year. I think last year was a fluke based on Griffin's injury early, then Shanahan just lost the team somehow. I am extremely excited to see Gruden as a head coach, I just think he "gets" it. So here is my prediction:

[B]W[/B] Week 1 Sun. Sep. 7 @ Houston Texans
[B]W[/B] Week 2 Sun. Sep. 14 vs. Jacksonville Jaguars
[B]L[/B] Week 3 Sun. Sep. 21 @ Philadelphia Eagles
[B]W[/B] Week 4 Thu. Sep. 25 vs. New York Giants 8:25 PM
[B]W[/B] Week 5 Mon Oct. 6 vs. Seattle Seahawks 8:30 PM
[B]L[/B] Week 6 Sun. Oct. 12 @ Arizona Cardinals
[B]W[/B] Week 7 Sun. Oct. 19 vs. Tennessee Titans
[B]L[/B] Week 8 Mon Oct. 27 @ Dallas Cowboys 8:30 PM
[B]W[/B] Week 9 Sun. Nov. 2 @ Minnesota Vikings
Week 10Bye Week
[B]W[/B] Week 11 Sun Nov. 16 vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
[B]L[/B] Week 12 Sun Nov. 23 @ San Francisco 49ers
[B]W[/B] Week 13 Sun Nov. 30 @ Indianapolis Colts
[B]L[/B] Week 14 Sun Dec. 7 vs. St. Louis Rams
[B]L[/B] Week 15 Sun Dec. 14 @ New York Giants
[B]W[/B] Week 16 Sat. Dec. 20 vs. Philadelphia Eagles
[B]W[/B] Week 17 Sun. Dec. 28 vs. Dallas Cowboys

Put me on record at 10-6 and clinching the 3rd seed with a week 16 victory over the Iggles.

Lotus 07-31-2014 10:44 AM

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12-4
playoff bye

donofriose 07-31-2014 10:45 AM

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Redskins seem to be one of the most unpredictable teams in the NFL. People see us either going 3-13 again or some predictions have us going 11-5 or even 12-4.

I think they finish around 8-8 or anything around that like 7-9 or 9-7. Giants and Eagles will probably be better than us this year but it will be close.

SirLK26 07-31-2014 11:18 AM

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I'm not the most optimistic, but we could be really good quite easily. I think we'll show a little this season, but in the end, fall a little short of a playoff berth. Of course, right now pretty much every fan around the world thinks their team has done enough in the offseason to either "show a little" or make the playoffs, so predictions are a little useless, but yet... fun.

WIN at Houston
WIN vs Jacksonville
LOSS at Philadelphia
WIN vs New York Giants
LOSS vs Seattle
LOSS at Arizona
WIN vs Tennessee
LOSS at Dallas
LOSS at Minnesota
WIN vs Tampa Bay
LOSS at San Francisco
LOSS at Indianopolis
LOSS vs St. Louis
LOSS at New York Giants
WIN vs Philadelphia
WIN vs Dallas

So... 7-9, 3rd in the division.

MTK 07-31-2014 11:45 AM

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16 and effing oh

FRPLG 07-31-2014 11:51 AM

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I am a huge believer in Gruden. Huge. He's a winner and always has been. I am not sure we have the talent on D to be very competitive. I think we're a 6-9 win team that, if everything goes ok, wins 9 and if everything doesn't we win 6. I do think there's a chance for some magic and maybe 11 wins but who knows.

For now I'll say 7-9 with most of our wins coming in the back half of the season as we make a furious push towards the playoffs but just miss.

Ruhskins 07-31-2014 11:52 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;1076544]16 and effing oh[/quote]

**drops mic and walks away**

donofriose 07-31-2014 11:58 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;1076544]16 and effing oh[/quote]

And super bowl champions.

mredskins 07-31-2014 12:22 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;1076544]16 and effing oh[/quote]

Aceinthehouse put the gun down and let Matty back on the computer.

JoeRedskin 07-31-2014 01:31 PM

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I too am a big believer in Gruden. As FRLPG said, the guy wins.

WIN at Houston
WIN vs Jacksonville
WIN at Philadelphia
WIN vs New York Giants
WIN vs Seattle
LOSS at Arizona
LOSS vs Tennessee
LOSS at Dallas
LOSS at Minnesota
WIN vs Tampa Bay
LOSS at San Francisco
LOSS at Indianopolis
WIN vs St. Louis
WIN at New York Giants
WIN vs Philadelphia
WIN vs Dallas

We come out like gangbusters. Big win against Seattle and the post-big game let down turns into midseason slump but recover in time to sweep our last three division games. 10-6; 5-1 in the division - NFC East Champs. Win the WC game; loss in Divisional Round.

Pass the Kool-Aid, I am running low.

over the mountain 07-31-2014 01:52 PM

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as the only dude who got it right last year, maybe gtripp did too,

i say 5-8 wins.

D - secondary could be a huge disaster that no amount of offense can overcome, MLB is unproven and I dont know who will replace fletch in calling audibles, line shifts, assignments etc..

O - should be better than D for sure but i think offense takes a big step back with the loss of the shannys. the run game isnt as explosive = receivers arent as open for RG3 which may compound RG3s below average reading of D, anticipation, moving safeties with his eyes/body etc ..



who knows, maybe RG3 lights it up, the O line plays better, AlfMo doesnt take a step back w the loss of the shanny running scheme, we dont suffer an injury to the paper thin secondary and the secondary plays above expected, the D line creates turnovers and rushes and the MLBs step up with their new responsibilities ...

Slingin Sammy 33 07-31-2014 01:53 PM

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[quote=SirLK26;1076542]
So... 7-9, 3rd in the division.[/quote]I posted the same outcome in the Training Camp thread. Here's mine:
LOSS at Houston
WIN vs Jacksonville
LOSS at Philadelphia
WIN vs New York Giants
LOSS vs Seattle
LOSS at Arizona
WIN vs Tennessee
LOSS at Dallas
WIN at Minnesota
WIN vs Tampa Bay 7
LOSS at San Francisco
LOSS at Indianopolis
LOSS vs St. Louis
LOSS at New York Giants
WIN vs Philadelphia
WIN vs Dallas

7 - 9, hopefully good performance by the O, solid Specials, and we clearly set our fixes for the D (including DC) in the 2015 offseason.

spAtt 07-31-2014 02:53 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;1076544]16 and effing oh[/quote]

you mean nienteen and oh!

TenandSix:Unacceptable 07-31-2014 03:54 PM

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10-6...duh

Southpaw 07-31-2014 04:01 PM

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1076550]I too am a big believer in Gruden. As FRLPG said, the guy wins.

WIN at Houston
WIN vs Jacksonville
WIN at Philadelphia
WIN vs New York Giants
WIN vs Seattle
LOSS at Arizona
LOSS vs Tennessee
LOSS at Dallas
LOSS at Minnesota
WIN vs Tampa Bay
LOSS at San Francisco
LOSS at Indianopolis
WIN vs St. Louis
WIN at New York Giants
WIN vs Philadelphia
WIN vs Dallas
[/quote]

Hard to argue with this. Even when Washington has had a winning record in recent years, there's been no rhyme or reason to how they got there. Losing to teams worse than them. Beating teams that you wouldn't expect them to beat.

That being said, I'd be pretty happy with anything over 7-9. If they manage 10-6, I'll be ecstatic.

calia 07-31-2014 04:33 PM

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Here's how I see it:

WIN at Houston
WIN vs Jacksonville
LOSS at Philadelphia
WIN vs New York Giants
LOSS vs Seattle
LOSS at Arizona
WIN vs Tennessee
WIN at Dallas
WIN at Minnesota
WIN vs Tampa Bay
LOSS at San Francisco
LOSS at Indianopolis
WIN vs St. Louis
WIN at New York Giants
LOSS vs Philadelphia
WIN vs Dallas

So 10-6. Spilt with Philly and sweep Dallas (who I expect to be bad -- 5-11 bad) and the Giants (they will be 7-9 again).

Of course, I predicted 11-5 last year, so....

KI Skins Fan 07-31-2014 05:34 PM

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I can hardly believe that people are trying to pick individual regular season games. If anyone could do that he'd be a millionaire from sports betting alone.

Well, anyhow, I said we'd make the playoffs because I can't stand to say we won't. I do think we'll be better but I have no idea how much better we'll be.

I look at it this way: If RGIII can stay healthy and improve his pocket passing, we'll be halfway to the playoffs because we have a lot of weapons on offense. I think we're going to score a lot of points and that will usually overcome the disadvantage of having an average defense.

Also, in my mind, there is no way we could possibly play worse on ST than we did last season. That should mean that we'll generally have improved field position this season which I think could be worth a win or two in close games.

CRedskinsRule 07-31-2014 05:42 PM

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[quote=TenandSix:Unacceptable;1076558]10-6...duh[/quote]
but but that's ... Unacceptable!

CRedskinsRule 07-31-2014 05:56 PM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1076570][B]I can hardly believe that people are trying to pick individual regular season games.[/B] If anyone could do that he'd be a millionaire from sports betting alone.

Well, anyhow, I said we'd make the playoffs because I can't stand to say we won't. I do think we'll be better but I have no idea how much better we'll be.

I look at it this way: If RGIII can stay healthy and improve his pocket passing, we'll be halfway to the playoffs because we have a lot of weapons on offense. I think we're going to score a lot of points and that will usually overcome the disadvantage of having an average defense.

Also, in my mind, there is no way we could possibly play worse on ST than we did last season. That should mean that we'll generally have improved field position this season which I think could be worth a win or two in close games.[/quote]

It's just good ole internet fun. Maybe we should rate the excitement level of each game, for example the first Iggles game probably would be rated

[IMG]https://sp3.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.608007042520123123&pid=15.1&P=0[/IMG],

the Titans game would be

[IMG]https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQPZTgOUiANcpw3hR33EPdJ4uUREpGySi2LBPEHRaquFGctZ3yz[/IMG]

and Jacksonville would be

[IMG]http://www.the-top-list.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/ugly_2.jpg[/IMG]

skinsfan69 07-31-2014 06:44 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1076539]It's Football time. HOF game is this weekend. I am fairly bullish again this year. I think last year was a fluke based on Griffin's injury early, then Shanahan just lost the team somehow. I am extremely excited to see Gruden as a head coach, I just think he "gets" it. So here is my prediction:

[B]W[/B] Week 1 Sun. Sep. 7 @ Houston Texans
[B]W[/B] Week 2 Sun. Sep. 14 vs. Jacksonville Jaguars
[B]L[/B] Week 3 Sun. Sep. 21 @ Philadelphia Eagles
[B]W[/B] Week 4 Thu. Sep. 25 vs. New York Giants 8:25 PM
[B]W[/B] Week 5 Mon Oct. 6 vs. Seattle Seahawks 8:30 PM
[B]L[/B] Week 6 Sun. Oct. 12 @ Arizona Cardinals
[B]W[/B] Week 7 Sun. Oct. 19 vs. Tennessee Titans
[B]L[/B] Week 8 Mon Oct. 27 @ Dallas Cowboys 8:30 PM
[B]W[/B] Week 9 Sun. Nov. 2 @ Minnesota Vikings
Week 10Bye Week
[B]W[/B] Week 11 Sun Nov. 16 vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
[B]L[/B] Week 12 Sun Nov. 23 @ San Francisco 49ers
[B]W[/B] Week 13 Sun Nov. 30 @ Indianapolis Colts
[B]L[/B] Week 14 Sun Dec. 7 vs. St. Louis Rams
[B]L[/B] Week 15 Sun Dec. 14 @ New York Giants
[B]W[/B] Week 16 Sat. Dec. 20 vs. Philadelphia Eagles
[B]W[/B] Week 17 Sun. Dec. 28 vs. Dallas Cowboys

Put me on record at 10-6 and clinching the 3rd seed with a week 16 victory over the Iggles.[/quote]

If RG3 takes off, special teams improves and the defense gets more sacks and turnovers, I see 10 wins. But being a realist, all three won't happen. I say 7-8 wins. Hopefully we can start fast, got to get those first two games. Who the hell is playing QB for the Texans anyway???

Bangee7 07-31-2014 10:09 PM

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I picked 5-8 wins.

I'm hoping to be wrong, but the question marks I have.....
1) Defense - secondary, LB, pass rush
2) RG3 - he's gotta be better than last year and the gimmicks from year 1 won't work any
more- hoping he progresses in reading defenses this year
3) 1st year as head coach in NFL -I expect some mishaps
(when to go for it on 4th down, when to challenge, etc.)
just because things look differently when every decision falls on you

I'm confident that ST will be much improved, but the bar wasn't set very high last year.
I also think this team will be stronger in the 4Q than in past years.

To go on record, I'll go with 8-8.

Hail!

spAtt 07-31-2014 10:19 PM

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Good to see no votes for the 0 - 4 category yet!

NC_Skins 07-31-2014 10:31 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;1076544]16 and effing oh[/quote]

:food-smil :headbanger: :woot:

I like the optimism Matty!


[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;1076554]I posted the same outcome in the Training Camp thread. Here's mine:
LOSS at Houston
WIN vs Jacksonville
LOSS at Philadelphia
WIN vs New York Giants
LOSS vs Seattle
LOSS at Arizona
WIN vs Tennessee
LOSS at Dallas
WIN at Minnesota
WIN vs Tampa Bay 7
LOSS at San Francisco
LOSS at Indianopolis
LOSS vs St. Louis
LOSS at New York Giants
WIN vs Philadelphia
WIN vs Dallas

7 - 9, hopefully good performance by the O, solid Specials, and we clearly set our fixes for the D (including DC) in the 2015 offseason.[/quote]


I happen to agree with Sammy's predictions pretty much to a T. Well done good sir. I do think if things go extremely right though, it could turn out 9-7.

EARTHQUAKE2689 07-31-2014 11:40 PM

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If we lose to Houston in week one with Ryan Fitzpatrick I might just break something.

Skins4L 07-31-2014 11:44 PM

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Lol cant believe a true skins fan would "predict" a losing season for us. Its a better roster than the last time we were a 10 win team. And why we all think were positively going to lose to the eagles week 3 is absurd that team has some flaws imo.

irish 08-01-2014 08:24 AM

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[quote=over the mountain;1076553]as the only dude who got it right last year, maybe gtripp did too,

i say 5-8 wins.

D - secondary could be a huge disaster that no amount of offense can overcome, MLB is unproven and I dont know who will replace fletch in calling audibles, line shifts, assignments etc..

O - should be better than D for sure but i think offense takes a big step back with the loss of the shannys. the run game isnt as explosive = receivers arent as open for RG3 which may compound RG3s below average reading of D, anticipation, moving safeties with his eyes/body etc ..



who knows, maybe RG3 lights it up, the O line plays better, AlfMo doesnt take a step back w the loss of the shanny running scheme, we dont suffer an injury to the paper thin secondary and the secondary plays above expected, the D line creates turnovers and rushes and the MLBs step up with their new responsibilities ...[/quote]

Good post and IMO spot on especially with the O. RG plays better than last year but the magic of a couple of years ago doesnt return. I think they get 6 wins and finish last in the division.

MTK 08-01-2014 08:41 AM

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I wouldn't expect any major changes regarding the running game. Gruden has said they are leaving much of the zone schemes in place. That's why Foerster is still here.

KI Skins Fan 08-01-2014 09:04 AM

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[quote=irish;1076605]Good post and IMO spot on especially with the O. RG plays better than last year but the magic of a couple of years ago doesnt return. I think they get 6 wins and finish last in the division.[/quote]

Sheesh! I hardly know what to say to a fan who is so pessimistic before the season even starts.

I feel like you need counseling. Let me give it a try: You hate your mother. You hate your father. You hate the Redskins.

Now, sing two choruses of "Hail to the Redskins", pop a cold one, sit in a lounge chair on the veranda, and imagine how great it's going to be with a healthy RGIII making plays all over the field, Alfmo running wild, DeSean catching 70-yard bombs , nachos and beer at the stadium, the finest cheerleaders in the league, crying Cowboys fans. Life is good. Are you starting to feel better yet?

SmootSmack 08-01-2014 10:22 AM

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We'll win the 3 days of scrimmages against the Pats next week

We'll sweep the 4 preseason games

We'll steamroll through the 16 game regular season

Breeze past our conference playoff opponents in 2 games

Shut out the 1 remaining team in our Super Bowl quest

We'll also be the 1 team to represent the entire NFC in the Pro Bowl

Pretty obvious that we're going 27-0

irish 08-01-2014 10:23 AM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1076607]Sheesh! I hardly know what to say to a fan who is so pessimistic before the season even starts.

I feel like you need counseling. Let me give it a try: You hate your mother. You hate your father. You hate the Redskins.

Now, sing two choruses of "Hail to the Redskins", pop a cold one, sit in a lounge chair on the veranda, and imagine how great it's going to be with a healthy RGIII making plays all over the field, Alfmo running wild, DeSean catching 70-yard bombs , nachos and beer at the stadium, the finest cheerleaders in the league, crying Cowboys fans. Life is good. Are you starting to feel better yet?[/quote]

Sometimes the truth hurts.

MTK 08-01-2014 10:34 AM

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Obviously the definition of truth is being twisted just slightly.

KI Skins Fan 08-01-2014 11:01 AM

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[quote=irish;1076609]Sometimes the truth hurts.[/quote]

I grew up in Washington, D.C., so I'm not used to hearing the truth.

:joke:

BTW, here's something from Rich Tandler's blog that you and over the mountain ought to know:

—It appears that the Redskins running game will be very similar—perhaps identical—to what we’ve seen the past couple of years with a few power runs sprinkled in. Trent Williams likes the continuity. “I think that just goes to show you how football savvy [Jay Gruden] is,” he said. “All coaches preach to guys that you’ve got to be unselfish and do what’s good for the team, and I think that is the biggest example right there. It’s just showing that he can come in and adapt and play to our strengths, even though he is a new head coach.”

KI Skins Fan 08-01-2014 11:06 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;1076611]Obviously the definition of truth is being twisted just slightly.[/quote]

"That depends on what your definition of 'is' is." - Bill Clinton

SirLK26 08-01-2014 11:44 AM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1076583]If we lose to Houston in week one with Ryan Fitzpatrick I might just break something.[/quote]

EARTHQUAKE breaking something isn't as worrisome as Watt, Clowney, Mercilus, or Cushing breaking something...

Anyway, Fitzpatrick is a solid vet with some good receivers to throw to now. And if Foster's healthy, he'll have a top-5ish back helping him out. I think the Texans will be a solid team.

irish 08-01-2014 12:36 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;1076611]Obviously the definition of truth is being twisted just slightly.[/quote]

I didnt think I was twisting the truth. The thread asked for my prediction and I gave it and I thought I was being an optimist. The only way this team is better than last year is if RG plays better (which I think he will) and why I think they will double last year's win total.

MTK 08-01-2014 12:42 PM

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Predictions are not facts therefore they aren't truths. If you have a crystal ball that's another story.

Lotus 08-01-2014 12:59 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;1076617]Predictions are not facts therefore they aren't truths. If you have a crystal ball that's another story.[/quote]

My prediction is TRUTH. We will go 12-4. Sell the house and kids now so you can place your bets.

CRedskinsRule 08-01-2014 01:07 PM

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[quote=irish;1076616]I didnt think I was twisting the truth. The thread asked for my prediction and I gave it and I thought I was being an optimist. The only way this team is better than last year is if RG plays better (which I think he will) and why I think they will double last year's win total.[/quote]

I think, not only does Griffin play better, but we don't see a team that throws in the towel in November and December like last year's team did. The Minnesota game is a case in point, where we were winning the game, but came out in the 2nd half and just folded. I don't know the exact reasons, I doubt it's all Shanahan, but I believe Gruden and the Skins don't lose that game. And December was laughable, you knew the team had left the building. So, imo, you can't just say a healthy Griffin is worth double last year's win totals, because last year's losses weren't always due to on the field causes (even though the symptoms were clearly bad play)

irish 08-01-2014 01:21 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;1076617]Predictions are not facts therefore they aren't truths. If you have a crystal ball that's another story.[/quote]

I know which is why I was surprised/confused that you started talking about truth twisting. I dont use a crystal ball, I use tea leaves.

irish 08-01-2014 01:27 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1076621]I think, not only does Griffin play better, but we don't see a team that throws in the towel in November and December like last year's team did. The Minnesota game is a case in point, where we were winning the game, but came out in the 2nd half and just folded. I don't know the exact reasons, I doubt it's all Shanahan, but I believe Gruden and the Skins don't lose that game. And December was laughable, you knew the team had left the building. So, imo, you can't just say a healthy Griffin is worth double last year's win totals, because last year's losses weren't always due to on the field causes (even though the symptoms were clearly bad play)[/quote]

They did throw in the towel and I attributed that to coming to the realization that RG didnt have it last year and as soon as they made the switch to KC the team saw the writing on the wall. Plus Shanny knew he was gone so I think it was a perfect storm for the team to just play out the string and head into the off-season. I agree that JG at least wont give up since he's trying to make his bones as a HC. That and a healthy RG are the reasons I think they double their win total.


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