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SkinsGuru 08-27-2014 07:05 PM

New Stadium for the Redskins being planned . . .
 
[URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/08/27/snyder-has-started-the-process-of-planning-for-a-new-stadium/"]Source (profootballtalk.com):[/URL]

[QUOTE]For Washington, where FedEx Field opened in 1997, the time is approaching for a new venue. Owner Daniel Snyder tells CSN Washington that the team has “started the process” of planning for a new home.

“Whether it’s Washington, D.C., whether it’s another stadium in Maryland, whether it’s a stadium in Virginia, we’ve started the process,” Snyder said. “We are going to push forward. We’ve started meeting with architectural firms. We are in the process of developing because it is a long term that you do it.”

Snyder says the new stadium would have a throwback look and feel.

“We’ve already seen some preliminary drawings and I’m going to be very retro with it,” Snyder said. “It’s gonna feel like RFK. It’s gonna move like RFK. I love that, I actually asked architectural firms to do it and they said that they can do it. I said that I think the lower bowl sections are going to want to rock the stadium like the old days.”[/QUOTE]

would love a stadium that rocked like RFK!! . . . thoughts??

Lotus 08-27-2014 07:18 PM

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No matter how constructed, a stadium won't rock like the winning old days until we...win.

CRedskinsRule 08-27-2014 08:43 PM

Re: New Stadium for the Redskins being planned . . .
 
What capacity would people want? Personally I would say 70000 in hopes of fewer opposing fans. And I would like the name sponsor to be Red. Man Chew. And the field to be named Little Bighorn stadium.

VegasMax 08-27-2014 08:50 PM

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Anything is better than Fedex...

Dirtbag59 08-27-2014 09:04 PM

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Okay when did stadiums become so disposable? San Diego, Buffalo, and St. Louis need new stadiums. There was a point early last decade where every NFL team in Pennsylvania needed a new stadium. Dallas desperately needed a new stadium before moving into AT&T Stadium.

I swear Hollywood marriages are starting to look like the pinnacle of stability when compared to NFL stadiums these days.

mooby 08-27-2014 09:25 PM

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I can't wait, but I'm not holding my breath. With the lease on Fedex that they will have to fight to get out of, combined with the sad state of financial affairs everywhere (read: Dan Snyder gonna have to put hella funds down to finance this) and the lack of good locations (other than RFK) means it'll definitely be a few years before we see anything happen. And I'll put good odds on one of these asshats in politics trying to convince Dan Snyder that they'll put a nice chunk of change down for the stadium if he agrees to change the name.

donofriose 08-27-2014 09:34 PM

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I'm more interested in finding out who is paying for it.

Also sounds like Snyder is trying to bring a Super Bowl to DC.

NC_Skins 08-27-2014 09:41 PM

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DC isn't having it. It'll most likely be in northern VA. I hope for your all sakes that the taxpayers don't foot the bill. Knowing Danny, he's going to sucker you all into buying his new house of cash.

Ruhskins 08-27-2014 09:55 PM

Re: New Stadium for the Redskins being planned . . .
 
[quote=NC_Skins;1079326]DC isn't having it. It'll most likely be in northern VA. I hope for your all sakes that the taxpayers don't foot the bill. [B]Knowing Danny, he's going to sucker you all into buying his new house of cash.[/B][/quote]

I think every NFL owner does this, so it's not just a Snyder thing.

NC_Skins 08-27-2014 10:42 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1079331]I think every NFL owner does this, so it's not just a Snyder thing.[/quote]

JKC didn't.


Also, I say the same things when those stadiums are built too.

SmootSmack 08-27-2014 11:51 PM

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[quote=NC_Skins;1079337]JKC didn't.


Also, I say the same things when those stadiums are built too.[/quote]

JKC did. Not for the structure itself, but all the infrastructure changes around it

NC_Skins 08-28-2014 12:29 AM

Re: New Stadium for the Redskins being planned . . .
 
[quote=SmootSmack;1079345]JKC did. Not for the structure itself, but all the infrastructure changes around it[/quote]

I wouldn't expect a NFL team to update the roads around the stadium. I'm talking about the stadium itself.

Giantone 08-28-2014 04:26 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;1079345]JKC did. Not for the structure itself, but all the infrastructure changes around it[/quote]


Bingo and there lies at least one big problem , if the lease is broken at Fed EX the Skins are responsable for the cost of all the updated "infrastucture" not to mention it is like owning a home ,what do you do with Fed Ex ,sell it ,to whom ?

tshile 08-28-2014 07:55 AM

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[quote=Dirtbag59;1079322]Okay when did stadiums become so disposable? [/quote]

When the NFL learned they could force localities to pay to build them.

I have a couple of thoughts on a new stadium:

I always find it interesting who does and doesn't want a new stadium. In my experience, which is just mine I get that, the season ticket holders don't want a new stadium because they realize they're probably going to be priced out finally. It always seems to be the people that don't actually go to the games that want a new stadium.

I'm assuming they will have a PSL program. It's hard to say what it'll look like now, the stadium probably wont open for at least 10 years, maybe more like 15-17. But this is concerning. There are few things that would make me close my account that's been in the family since 1963. PSL's is likely one of them.

Snyder can go on camera and say he's going to build the stadium to rock like RFK all he wants. If he makes it another wine and cheese environment that caters to the extremes of the young drunk and the people who are more interested with telling their friends they were there than actually paying attention to the game then the new stadium will receive just as much criticism as the current one. And part of that is also driven by [i]actually winning.[/i]


RFK was a dump at the end. What made it awesome was how good the team was and how hard it was to get tickets (which made you appreciate when you got to go more.) The sections we were in everyone knew everyone because they'd all been sitting next to each other on Sunday for the better part of a decade.

Anyways, I hope it's something like 65k. If Snyder's going to make it meet whatever arbitrary mark to host a super bowl then I hope those are expansion seats. I don't want another 80k+ stadium. We don't have the fanbase to fill it up.

Chico23231 08-28-2014 08:04 AM

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My gut feeling, 90% chance the new stadium goes into northern Virginia

Chico23231 08-28-2014 08:05 AM

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[quote=VegasMax;1079319]Anything is better than Fedex...[/quote]

agreed. Hate to say it, but I never liked going to games.

Alvin Walton 08-28-2014 08:46 AM

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[url=http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/08/27/redskins-begin-designing-new-stadium/]Report: Washington Redskins New Stadium Could Be Dome At RFK Site « CBS DC[/url]

JoeRedskin 08-28-2014 08:53 AM

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I think it's going in NVA also. Not sure where but somewhere inside the 495 loop.

As for capacity, please, he is going to cram every seat he can in there. I would be surprised if it is less than 80K. Just b/c it would have a high capacity does not mean it has to be bad. FedEx is just a giant bowl - not much creativity in design. A little creative design work could enhance the experience and home field advantage even if the stadium has a high capacity.

Oh, and it will have a roof. Danny wants his Super Bowl.

tshile 08-28-2014 10:11 AM

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high capacity = tons of opposing team fans.

if you look at all the new, 75k+ stadiums, they all have that same problem. the redskins are no longer unique in that regard.

NC_Skins 08-28-2014 10:16 AM

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It's going to be hard for danny to sell PSLs to the fans with the team as shitty as it is. He better be waiting for some good years to be able to sell it to the fans.

skinsfan69 08-28-2014 10:17 AM

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This is great news and it was nice to hear Snyder come out and talk about it. But where in the world would they put it? Maryland is the worst idea. If it's No Va where? Haymarket? lol. No Va has built up so much that there isn't anyplace to me that makes any sense. They have to put the stadium where a metro is and the RFK site would be perfect.

mooby 08-28-2014 10:22 AM

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My money's on RFK too, but first they gotta wait for DC United to move into their new stadium. I don't think that's even been approved yet so we would definitely be looking at a few years wait.

over the mountain 08-28-2014 10:28 AM

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the stadium in N Va could hurt the redskins roots in Md. The "mason dixon" line for skins v. ravens fans is the columbia/laurel area (imo).

Will moving the stadium to n va lead to more frederick/columbia residents becoming ravens fans? n va is already strong skins territory.

i still say barry farms across from nats park.

KI Skins Fan 08-28-2014 10:31 AM

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The D.C. government would actually like to have the new stadium. The ultra-PC D.C. politicians might pose a problem in getting a deal done with Dan Snyder. There is a Metro station right next to RFK Stadium, if they were to use that site.

Traffic in Northern VA is so congested that the local radio stations provide traffic reports on weekends. If the stadium is built in NOVA it may be located far outside of D.C. Then the fans might not be able to use the Metro on game days.

I doubt that Maryland will be the choice for a number of reasons, including the existence of the Ravens.

tshile 08-28-2014 10:32 AM

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[quote=NC_Skins;1079382]It's going to be hard for danny to sell PSLs to the fans with the team as shitty as it is. He better be waiting for some good years to be able to sell it to the fans.[/quote]

it's just the way the league is going. he's not going to miss out of the scam revenue that is PSL's.

i'm willing to read the pitch when it comes out, but i have a feeling it's going to be a scam like many of the others.

10+k for the 'right' to purchase season tickets to a seat? and if you don't buy tickets one year you lose your license?

it's a scam.

Chico23231 08-28-2014 10:37 AM

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If Danny wants that retro Redskins feeling back, the only way is to put the new Stadium back in DC

tshile 08-28-2014 11:39 AM

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I disagree.

The only way to get it back is to start winning consistently and stop making a money grab at every corner and chasing away the real fans in favor of people that just want to say they were there.

skinsguy 08-28-2014 11:42 AM

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If the team moves back into D.C., I wonder what they'll be called? LOL!

For selfish reasons, I would love for the team to move a bit deeper into VA. Just so it wouldn't be as far for me to travel to the game. Don't know much about NoVA, so I have no idea where the stadium would go. Maybe it would be just south or Northern VA? Heck...just put in Roanoke, VA! ;-)

saden1 08-28-2014 12:32 PM

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I hope DMV leaders are smart enough not to give Snyder any tax payer money.

saden1 08-28-2014 12:48 PM

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[yt]8bGNIgdOLa0[/yt]

takethecake 08-28-2014 01:26 PM

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I think the old RFK site is really the only option - all the other spots have significant drawbacks, and RFK just makes too much damn sense. As much as taxpayer financing upsets me (seriously, it's one of the more fucked things in our society), I'm sure it'll happen again here - especially when you have DC, MD & VA all competing for the new stadium. Of course, a move to DC would necessitate a name change - there's absolutely no getting around that - but I'm sure Snyder knows that and will leverage the name change for more gov't $. He knows it has to change eventually, he's just waiting for the biggest payday.

But all that aside, I feel like I actually might go to more than 1 game/season if it was in DC. It really just fucking sucks to go all the way out to Landover...metro access would be huge.

tshile 08-28-2014 02:24 PM

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a dc councilman was on ESPN980.

he trashed loudoun county as an option, which pretty much tells me that the rumors of it going there are probably right :)

he also refused to use the word Redskins, calling them The Washington Football team, but when asked about it said that the name change shouldn't be part of the discussion about relocating the team. He said it would "... take care of itself" down the road.

IE: They want the tax revenue and businesses that would come from it but want to take a stand against the supposedly racist nickname.

I hope to god DC or MD doesn't get the stadium. They don't deserve the economic boost (according to the dc councilman) nor the tax revenue.

Giantone 08-28-2014 03:53 PM

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Thirteen years left on the lease and if they jump right away another 2 years to build , so what does Dan Snyder do with Fed Ex ,University of Maryland does'nt want it ,Navy nope , even the Danny can't carry two stadiums .
Meadowlands was in it's thirties before being rebuilt and used by two teams FedEx is 17 years young .:)

[url=http://www.nbcwashington.com/blogs/capital-games/Redskins-Have-Started-Process-Of-Designing-New-Stadium-272957491.html]Redskins Have "Started Process" Of Designing New Stadium | NBC4 Washington[/url]
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The Redskins currently play in Landover at FedEx Field, which opened in 1997. The Redskins' lease in Landover runs for another 13 years.



“We've already seen some preliminary drawings and I'm going to be very retro with it,” Snyder told CSN. “It's gonna feel like RFK. It's gonna move like RFK. I love that, I actually asked architectural firms to do it and they said that they can do it. I said that I think the lower bowl sections are going to want to rock the stadium like the old days.”

Snyder offered no timetable for when the proposal for a new stadium would be approve

Ruhskins 08-28-2014 04:18 PM

Re: New Stadium for the Redskins being planned . . .
 
Last time I checked, taxpayer financing happens a lot in new NFL stadiums deals. I'm not for the practice, but a lot of people sound like this is the first time they've heard about it.

CRedskinsRule 08-28-2014 04:40 PM

Re: New Stadium for the Redskins being planned . . .
 
[quote=Giantone;1079421]Thirteen years left on the lease and if they jump right away another 2 years to build , so what does Dan Snyder do with Fed Ex ,University of Maryland does'nt want it ,Navy nope , even the Danny can't carry two stadiums .
Meadowlands was in it's thirties before being rebuilt and used by two teams FedEx is 17 years young .:)

[url=http://www.nbcwashington.com/blogs/capital-games/Redskins-Have-Started-Process-Of-Designing-New-Stadium-272957491.html]Redskins Have "Started Process" Of Designing New Stadium | NBC4 Washington[/url]
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The Redskins currently play in Landover at FedEx Field, which opened in 1997. The Redskins' lease in Landover runs for another 13 years.



“We've already seen some preliminary drawings and I'm going to be very retro with it,” Snyder told CSN. “It's gonna feel like RFK. It's gonna move like RFK. I love that, I actually asked architectural firms to do it and they said that they can do it. I said that I think the lower bowl sections are going to want to rock the stadium like the old days.”

Snyder offered no timetable for when the proposal for a new stadium would be approve[/quote]

It took JKC 10 years to get FedEx done. Would be surprised that they have a target date around the time the lease ends in Landover. I imagine this is all highly preliminary.

skinsguy 08-28-2014 04:53 PM

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[quote=saden1;1079403][yt]8bGNIgdOLa0[/yt][/quote]

Hey, it's Magnum PI!

Giantone 08-28-2014 05:51 PM

Re: New Stadium for the Redskins being planned . . .
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1079424]Last time I checked, taxpayer financing happens a lot in new NFL stadiums deals. I'm not for the practice, but a lot of people sound like this is the first time they've heard about it.[/quote]

Not for the Met Life Stadium in NJ .


[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MetLife_Stadium]MetLife Stadium - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]


[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2391829]Giants, Jets revise billion-dollar stadium plan - NFL - ESPN[/url]

mlmdub130 08-28-2014 09:25 PM

New Stadium for the Redskins being planned . . .
 
I'd like to see a 65k Max stadium. Keep it smaller and try and get some home field advantage again. Maybe design something along the lines of Seattle that is super acoustic. And the strongest wifi system imaginable.

REDSKINS4ever 08-28-2014 11:13 PM

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I would love to see The Redskins back in D.C. again......it just hasn't been the same since Gibbs I.

Hog1 08-29-2014 09:05 AM

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[quote=Lotus;1079315]No matter how constructed, a stadium won't rock like the winning old days until we...win.[/quote]
Hmmmm.....now that you mention it, some Badass design type person needs to replicate the RFK...Shake rattle and roll thing. maybe put it on wheels like the buildings in L.A.
HTTR


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