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The good:

RGIII looked healthy and made a few awesome plays, I thought. Great throws to DJax, nice runs, excellent throws to Helu.

Helu has been great all year, but for the punt block whiff.

DJax. Wow.

Morris.

The Bad: RGIII had a few boneheaded plays and few bad throws. (What kind of gets me though is that the team EXPECTS him to win it for us, while they go out and try hard to win it when KC/Colt play, because they don't expect those guys to win it on their own.)

Safety. Obviously.

Weak pass rush in crucial situations.

Red zone run d (!!)


The Ugly: Bus crashes, protests and locker room reporting.

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Good:
- RG3's seems healthy and made some good plays
- Morris' was effective
- DJax continues to be effective

Bad:
- Offense lack of points in the first half
- Defense shitting the bed in the second half

I still think it was a good idea to start RG3. No point in keeping him benched IMO.

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I missed the whole safety thing.. What happened there?

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Good:
RGIII's positive effect on the run game;
RGIII's deep throws;
Tres Way;
Offense's 4th Quarter response to Minn's FIRST long TD drive.

Bad:
Defense's 2nd half collapse - inability of players to execute schemes called;
Defense allowing TWO 70+ yard TD drives in the 4th quarter to a bad offense;
Hazlett for failing to adjust his D in 2nd half;
O-Line pass blocking (or occasional lack thereof);
RGIII holding the ball wayyyy too long on several occasions;
Did I mention Hazlett? Well, I am mentioning him again.

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[quote=Meks;1093115]I missed the whole safety thing.. What happened there?[/quote]

I think he meant "Safeties - we have none."

To me, got to top priority in the offseason. Get someone back there who can cover and support Amerson/Breeland.

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[quote=Meks;1093115]I missed the whole safety thing.. What happened there?[/quote]

Clark played horribly, even Gruden called him out during his presser.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1093118]Clark played horribly, even Gruden called him out during his presser.[/quote]


I didn't get a chance to listen to the presser, but I hope Jay Gruden did call out some people. Hope he's calling out some of the coaching as well.

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I didn't see the game, but I have read about it and seen some highlights. Sounds like our safeties were terrible, and that the D evaporated in the second half. Did Phillip Thomas play at all? If so, how did he look? Not saying that he's a solution necessarily, but it sounds like he couldn't do a lot worse than our starters did yesterday.

Looks like Kerrigan had a very quiet day. 3 tackles, no sacks, not sure if he had any QB pressures. Did the Vikes just decide that he was the guy to stop and had him doubled? If so, I know that Hatcher had one sack (as did Murphy), but did anyone on the D line play well? It seems like we have Hatcher, but no other real contributors up front. I hope we can get Cofield back healthy soon, and maybe the D line can show some improvement. The Vikings were ranked 29th in offense and put up 29 points on us. That's pathetic. No way that they should be able to score more points against us than Dallas, Seattle, or Houston (and only one less than Arizona).

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The Good:

Morris having a good showing.

DJax, good as usual.

Special teams did an alright job.

Breeland made a few plays here and there.

RG3.

The bad:

Defense collapsed the 2nd half of the game.

Haz is predictable and has no idea what it means to gameplan and adjust.

O-line seems to only be able to block properly (at least sometimes) for people not named RG3.

RG3.

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Ryan Clark is supposed to lead our defense through experience and communication. But we've had more blown coverages - "miscommunications" - than any time that I can remember. This has been true all season long.

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Yeah, safeties, not safety!

Skins-Vikes Post game good & bad
 

Good: almo - feel bad for him.
D-jax - feel bad for him.
Rg-3 at times.
Lack of penalties.
Tres Way. Great game.
Bad: Where the hell was reed, garcon , roberts? All the other playmakers
RG -3 at times
Wtf was with Roberts
And not calling fair catches?
Jim Ha...i cant even type his name. I get ill.
Oline is a hot mess. What else is new?

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3 blown leads, what else is there to say.

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I like Gruden, feel like he will figure it out as long as Snyder doesn't meddle too much.

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[quote=punch it in;1093128]<snip>Bad: Where the hell was reed, garcon , roberts?

<snip>Oline is a hot mess. What else is new?[/quote]


Reed didn't have a big impact because he was targeted once. And without even rewatching the game, I can pretty much guarantee that he was open just about evey time. Not his fault that RG didn't look his way.

As for the O-line, it's not a coincidence that Griffin makes his return and the line immediately looks worse. Him holding onto the ball so long isn't always bad, but it will make the line look worse occasionally.

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Garcon had a perfect ball fall right through his hands. Could have been a big play.

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The whole Snyder Hate thing is starting to drive me up a wall. Was he on the field at the Cowboys game?

Sure, he has an opinion about what he wants. Guy paid a bazillion dollars for the team, writes a few million in paychecks every week - you know what, he's entitled.

Does he emasculate his coach in prime time? Is he wheeling an injured RGIII around on the sideline like the Atlanta owner did with Vick way back when?

I am just not convinced that Snyder's "meddling" is anymore than most owners in this league.

Gruden held Griffin out, even though he was physically ready for the Cowboys game. If Snyder wanted to meddle, THAT was the time to meddle. Gruden said "Colt starts" and Colt started.

Gruden is going to get his opportunity. So far, so good. Fire Hazlett and so much the better.

vent over.

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[quote=Lotus;1093125]Ryan Clark is supposed to lead our defense through experience and communication. But we've had more blown coverages - "miscommunications" - than any time that I can remember. This has been true all season long.[/quote]

We heard all about the value of leadership BS when Fletcher was on his last legs here. Keenan Robinson has been a big upgrade. We need to find the same type of upgrade for Clark after this year.

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No doubt RGIII puts more pressure on the oline. One big thing he needs to learn is how to move around IN the pocket, when to step up, when to move laterally. That is going to take experience. It's not always about running.

Another bad: two killer penalties on the last drive. Not sure if that was on us or the refs. Offensive PI? Offsetting penalties on 4th down? Oy.

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I like Gruden. Dude is upfront and tells it like it is. Also note the comment about the "fragile ego" was more or less directed towards Robert. It fits because you constantly see Robert tweeting some sort of defense to his detractors. I'm with Jay, man the fuck up, grow some thick skin or get the hell out of the league.


[YT]69oRo2-imIU[/YT]

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Can anyone opine on how Luvwow played?

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1093135]The whole Snyder Hate thing is starting to drive me up a wall. Was he on the field at the Cowboys game?

Sure, he has an opinion about what he wants. Guy paid a bazillion dollars for the team, writes a few million in paychecks every week - you know what, he's entitled.

Does he emasculate his coach in prime time? Is he wheeling an injured RGIII around on the sideline like the Atlanta owner did with Vick way back when?

I am just not convinced that Snyder's "meddling" is anymore than most owners in this league.

Gruden held Griffin out, even though he was physically ready for the Cowboys game. If Snyder wanted to meddle, THAT was the time to meddle. Gruden said "Colt starts" and Colt started.

Gruden is going to get his opportunity. So far, so good. Fire Hazlett and so much the better.

vent over.[/quote]

Snyder actually deserves credit for keeping his cool...after turning the team over to the professional GM (Allen) the on field product has mostly been worse, and often far worse, than the Cerrato days, especially when Gibbs/Williams were on the sidelines.

I'm not suggesting Snyder step back into a more active role or anything like that, but if he's truly been more hands-off since Allen, it certainly hasn't translated to a better product.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1093138]I like Gruden. Dude is upfront and tells it like it is. Also note the comment about the "fragile ego" was more or less directed towards Robert. It fits because you constantly see Robert tweeting some sort of defense to his detractors. I'm with Jay, man the fuck up, grow some thick skin or get the hell out of the league.


[YT]69oRo2-imIU[/YT][/quote]

The problem is if you list the "fails" or reasons for losing the game, RG is at the bottom. Gruden is more responsible, by a long way, simply because he's the HC. But more specifically here because Gruden still hasn't called an offensive game worthy of a win. Has Morris got over 20 carries in a game yet? Who the hell called a dink and dunk pass play right before the half?

You don't see great coaches call that shit. Most would pound the rock, but if you do pass it's downfield so if intercepted the opponent has a long field to go. If Gruden is learning, it's very slow at this point.

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[quote=Mattyk;1093136]We heard all about the value of leadership BS when Fletcher was on his last legs here. Keenan Robinson has been a big upgrade. We need to find the same type of upgrade for Clark after this year.[/quote]

Yeah, you are right. I love Fletch but are we really missing his 2013 version?

Adding a quality FS would make the whole defense better. You can attack the line more if you know someone has got your back.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1093139]Can anyone opine on how Luvwow played?[/quote]

He showed once again that he is the smartest free agent acquisition EVER.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1093135]The whole Snyder Hate thing is starting to drive me up a wall. Was he on the field at the Cowboys game?

Sure, he has an opinion about what he wants. Guy paid a bazillion dollars for the team, writes a few million in paychecks every week - you know what, he's entitled.

Does he emasculate his coach in prime time? Is he wheeling an injured RGIII around on the sideline like the Atlanta owner did with Vick way back when?

I am just not convinced that Snyder's "meddling" is anymore than most owners in this league.

Gruden held Griffin out, even though he was physically ready for the Cowboys game. If Snyder wanted to meddle, THAT was the time to meddle. Gruden
said "Colt starts" and Colt started.

Gruden is going to get his opportunity. So far, so good. Fire Hazlett and so much the better.

vent over.[/quote]

I think people are just frustrated with the past 15 years of Snyder. They want someone to blame for our unsatisfactory performance during his tenure. We haven't had a great season since the death of Jack Kent Cooke. There has been a pattern of Snyder over riding decisions and acting as GM and -allegedly- as coach over the years, and it's made people cynical and skeptical of every decision any coach makes past present and future. It doesn't help that we have ESPN adding fuel to the flames.

I'm grateful for Jay Gruden though. He's very direct and appears honest and improving with every game. We need a franchise coach just as badly if not more so than a franchise quarterback.

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^good positive, I think jay has made strides in each contest, and it's endearing to me he has openly ripped the media.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1093145]^good positive, I think jay has made strides in each contest, and it's endearing to me he has openly ripped the media.[/QUOTE]


Now if he would just give the effin ball to Almo about 5-10 more times a game id have no problem with the guy.

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[quote=Rotten1980;1093141]The problem is if you list the "fails" or reasons for losing the game, RG is at the bottom. Gruden is more responsible, by a long way, simply because he's the HC. But more specifically here because Gruden still hasn't called an offensive game worthy of a win. Has Morris got over 20 carries in a game yet? Who the hell called a dink and dunk pass play right before the half?

[B]You don't see great coaches call that shit. Most would pound the rock, but if you do pass it's downfield so if intercepted the opponent has a long field to go. [/B] If Gruden is learning, it's very slow at this point.[/quote]

You realize you are exactly wrong, right? A 1 minute drill with time outs, you will always see 8-12 yard outs, trying to take advantage of the open middle and hope the receiver gets out, but with a timeout in the pocket you know you can call if he gets tackled. The long passes only come when there is no more time to move down the field methodically. And you don't pound the rock with less than a minute on the clock, because you need about 3 plays to get into FG position. If you are going to run Morris at that spot, then take a knee and come out and get the ball to start the half - of course had he done that then people would have lamented his lack of aggressiveness.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1093147]You realize you are exactly wrong, right? A 1 minute drill with time outs, you will always see 8-12 yard outs, trying to take advantage of the open middle and hope the receiver gets out, but with a timeout in the pocket you know you can call if he gets tackled. The long passes only come when there is no more time to move down the field methodically. And you don't pound the rock with less than a minute on the clock, because you need about 3 plays to get into FG position. If you are going to run Morris at that spot, then take a knee and come out and get the ball to start the half - of course had he done that then people would have lamented his lack of aggressiveness.[/quote]

Disagree. Couldn't count the number of times I've seen Brady (especially), Rogers, Brees, and Mannings huck the ball downfield in exactly these situations. That's the whole point, if there's a turnover 30 yards downfield the opponent has more ground to cover. Especially when you've got Desean Jackson catching passes, right?

LOL where does the 8-12 yard exactitude come from? Wait, if it's 13-20 you might have an argument hehe

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SF before half yesterday:
1st and 10 at SF 32 (:58) (Shotgun) C.Kaepernick [B]pass short left to B.Lloyd ran ob at SF 42 for 10 yards. 0-yds YAC [/B]
1st and 10 at SF 42 (:54) (Shotgun) C.Kaepernick [B]pass short middle to A.Boldin to SL 47 for 11 yards (L.Joyner). Caught at SF 46. 7-yds[/B] YAC
1st and 10 at STL 47 (:30) (No Huddle, Shotgun) C.Kaepernick [B]pass short right to V.Davis to SL 34 for 13 yards (E.Gaines, J.Laurinaitis). Caught at SL 37. 3-yds YAC [/B]
Timeout #2 by SF at 00:23.

at end of game:
1st and 10 at SF 12 (3:11) (Shotgun) C.Kaepernick [B]pass short left to S.Johnson to SF 37 for 25 yards (L.Joyner; R.McLeod). Caught at SF 22. 15-yds YAC[/B] 13 10
1st and 10 at SF 37 (2:38) (No Huddle, Shotgun) C.Kaepernick [B]pass incomplete short right to S.Johnson[/B].
2nd and 10 at SF 37 (2:34) (Shotgun) C.Kaepernick [B]pass short right to A.Boldin to SF 45 for 8 yards (R.McLeod). Caught at SF 40. 5-yds [/B]YAC
3rd and 2 at SF 45 (2:01) (No Huddle, Shotgun) C.Kaepernick [B]pass incomplete short left to M.Crabtree[/B]. PENALTY on SL-L.Joyner, Defensive Holding, 5 yards, enforced at SF 45 - No Play.

Seattle before half yesterday:
1st and 20 at SEA 12 (3:26) (Shotgun) M.Lynch right tackle to SEA 21 for 9 yards (P.Sims; S.Moore). 3 17
2nd and 11 at SEA 21 (2:49) (Shotgun) R.Wilson [B]pass short middle to M.Lynch to SEA 24 for 3 yards (M.Burris)[/B].
Timeout #1 by OAK at 02:33.
3rd and 8 at SEA 24 (2:33) (Shotgun) R.Wilson [B]pass short middle to L.Willson to SEA 40 for 16 yards (D.Hayden)[/B].
1st and 10 at SEA 40 (2:06) (Shotgun) R.Wilson pass incomplete deep right to P.Richardson [J.Tuck].
Two-Minute Warning
2nd and 10 at SEA 40 (2:00) (Shotgun) R.Wilson pass short left to M.Lynch pushed ob at OAK 17 for 43 yards (D.Hayden). PENALTY on SEA-P.Richardson, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at OAK 43.
2nd and 3 at SEA 47 (1:50) R.Wilson [B]pass short right to J.Kearse to OAK 49 for 4 yards [/B](D.Hayden). PENALTY on OAK-D.Hayden, Taunting, 15 yards, enforced at OAK 49.
1st and 10 at OAK 34 (1:40) (Shotgun) R.Wilson [B]pass short left to D.Baldwin pushed ob at OAK 29 for 5 yards[/B] (T.Brown).
2nd and 5 at OAK 29 (1:25) (Shotgun) R.Turbin up the middle to OAK 22 for 7 yards (K.Mack).
1st and 10 at OAK 22 (1:09) (Shotgun) R.Wilson [B]pass short left to R.Turbin pushed ob at OAK 8 for 14 yards[/B] (T.Carrie).
1st and 8 at OAK 8 (1:03) (Shotgun) R.Wilson left end pushed ob at OAK 5 for 3 yards (T.Brown).

Pitt before half last night:
1st and 10 at PIT 20 (1:44) (Shotgun) B.Roethlisberger p[B]ass short middle to A.Brown pushed ob at PIT 37 for 17 yards[/B] (D.Stewart).
1st and 10 at PIT 37 (1:38) B.Roethlisberger [B]pass incomplete short left to L.Bell[/B]. Coverage 57-Mosley.
2nd and 10 at PIT 37 (1:32) (Shotgun) B.Roethlisberger [B]pass short middle to L.Moore to PIT 41 for 4 yards[/B] (W.Hill).
3rd and 6 at PIT 41 (1:09) (No Huddle, Shotgun) B.Roethlisberger [B]pass short left to L.Bell to BLT 47 for 12 yards [/B](C.Mosley).
Timeout #2 by PIT at 01:01.
1st and 10 at BAL 47 Markus Wheaton 47 Yd pass from Ben Roethlisberger (Brad Wing Pass to Matt Spaeth for Two-Point Conversion) 10 22
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8-12 yds is what you need for moving the chains, not a random number. I believe, and would be willing to look at the stats, that when teams get the ball around their 30 with 1 - 2 minutes left and timeouts remaining, most teams and great qb's/OC's will start with some intermediate - move the chain - type throws, then once you are around the 50, you can take a shot or two and still get to field goal range.

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My head hurts. Our team is so hit or miss I have no clue what is happening. One drive our secondary looks like hall of famers, the next it looks like garbage. "Communication" issues is a cover up for someone f@cked up. Its time to hold people responsible.

For real though, DJax is a monster.

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[quote=SirLK26;1093133]Reed didn't have a big impact because he was targeted once. And without even rewatching the game, I can pretty much guarantee that he was open just about evey time. Not his fault that RG didn't look his way.[/quote]

I haven't rewatched the game either, but Cooley and the guys on the radio saw it differently. They said Zimmer knew Reed was RG's fallback option and they had him shadowed most of the night.

RG definitely over-targets Reed in trouble situations, so this probably added to his hesitation in the pocket.

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^Okay, thanks. Well, if that's true, I'm glad RG didn't force anything. I just know Reed usually gets open about 95% of the time...

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[quote=Rotten1980;1093148]Disagree. Couldn't count the number of times I've seen Brady (especially), Rogers, Brees, and Mannings huck the ball downfield in exactly these situations. That's the whole point, if there's a turnover 30 yards downfield the opponent has more ground to cover. Especially when you've got Desean Jackson catching passes, right?

LOL where does the 8-12 yard exactitude come from? Wait, if it's 13-20 you might have an argument hehe[/quote]

I know I locked onto this for some reason, but in the last close game Brady played (against the Jets) this was the end of half drive:
1st and 10 at NE 26 (:55) (Shotgun) PENALTY on NYJ-J.Babin, Neutral Zone Infraction, 5 yards, enforced at NE 26 - No Play.
1st and 5 at NE 31 (:55) (Shotgun) T.Brady [B]pass incomplete short left to R.Gronkowski. [/B]
2nd and 5 at NE 31 (:51) (Shotgun) T.Brady [B]pass short left to B.LaFell pushed ob at NE 36 for 5 yards[/B] (D.Walls).
1st and 10 at NE 36 (:46) (No Huddle, Shotgun) T.Brady pass deep left to R.Gronkowski to NYJ 44 for 20 yards (D.Davis; C.Pryor) [M.Wilkerson].
1st and 10 at NYJ 44 (:38) (No Huddle, Shotgun) T.Brady [B]pass incomplete short left to R.Gronkowski [/B][S.Richardson].
2nd and 10 at NYJ 44 (:34) (Shotgun) T.Brady [B]pass incomplete short left to S.Vereen[/B].
3rd and 10 at NYJ 44 (:29) (Shotgun) T.Brady pass incomplete deep right to D.Amendola. PENALTY on NYJ-A.Allen, Defensive Pass Interference, 32 yards, enforced at NYJ 44 - No Play.
1st and 10 at NYJ 12 (:23) (Shotgun) T.Brady p[B]ass incomplete short right to J.Edelman. [/B]
2nd and 10 at NYJ 12 (:17) (Shotgun) T.Brady pass incomplete short right [A.Barnes]. thrown away from outside the pocket PENALTY on NE-J.Devey, Unnecessary Roughness, 15 yards, enforced at NYJ 12.
3rd and 25 at NYJ 27 (:11) S.Vereen left end pushed ob at NYJ 21 for 6 yards (A.Allen).
4th and 19 at NYJ 21 (:05) S.Gostkowski 39 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-D.Aiken, Holder-R.Allen.

or at half against Buffalo (score is NE 10, Buf 7)
1st and 10 at NE 42 (:52) (Shotgun) [B]T.Brady pass short left to S.Vereen to NE 45 for 3 yards [/B](M.Dareus, J.Hughes). Caught at NE 36. 10 7
2nd and 7 at NE 45 (:30) T.Brady [B]pass incomplete short middle to R.Gronkowski. [/B]Overthrown, receiver at 50.
3rd and 7 at NE 45 (:30) (Shotgun) T.Brady sacked at NE 39 for -6 yards (Ma.Williams).
Timeout #1 by BUF at 00:20.
4th and 13 at NE 39 (:20) R.Allen punts 31 yards to BUF 30, Center-D.Aiken, out of bounds.
Timeout #3 by NE at 00:14.

or maybe Green Bay: vs Miami, end of 4th quarter:
1st and 10 at GB 40 (2:04) (Shotgun) J.Starks left tackle to MIA 48 for 12 yards (R.Jones). 20 24
Two-Minute Warning -[I] note the run came before the 2min, so they didn't need to use a timeout[/I]
1st and 10 at MIA 48 (1:57) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers pass short right to J.Starks pushed ob at MIA 47 for 1 yard (P.Wheeler).
2nd and 9 at MIA 47 (1:49) (Shotgun) [B]A.Rodgers pass incomplete short left to A.Quarless.[/B]
3rd and 9 at MIA 47 (1:44) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers sacked at MIA 48 for -1 yards (sack split by O.Vernon and C.Wake). FUMBLES (O.Vernon), recovered by GB-T.Lang at MIA 48. T.Lang to MIA 48 for no gain (C.McCain).
Timeout #2 by MIA at 01:07.
4th and 10 at MIA 48 (1:07) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers pass deep right to J.Nelson ran ob at MIA 30 for 18 yards. - [I]at midfield on 4th down[/I]
1st and 10 at MIA 30 (1:00) (No Huddle, Shotgun) A.Rodgers pass incomplete deep right to J.Starks [J.Wilson].
2nd and 10 at MIA 30 (:53) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers pass incomplete short middle to J.Nelson.
3rd and 10 at MIA 30 (:48) (Shotgun) [B]A.Rodgers pass short middle to J.Starks to MIA 20 for 10 yards[/B] (J.Jenkins).
1st and 10 at MIA 20 (:30) (No Huddle, Shotgun) A[B].Rodgers pass short left to R.Cobb to MIA 16 for 4 yards [/B](B.Grimes).
2nd and 6 at MIA 16 (:07)[B] A.Rodgers pass short right to D.Adams to MIA 4 for 12 yards[/B] (C.Finnegan).
Timeout #3 by MIA at 00:06.
1st and 4 at MIA 4 (:06) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers pass short right to A.Quarless for 4 yards, TOUCHDOWN. M.Crosby extra point is GOOD, Center-B.Goode, Holder-T.Masthay.

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The Good:
Breeland
Morris
Tom Compton
Edit: ***Desean looked awesome again

The Bad-
Helu - he whiffed badly on at least 2 blocks - barely made contact
The Safeties and constant mix-ups

When you think about this game though, they played tough

Travel back from Dallas on Mon night, short week made even shorter by travelling out to Minny & then having the bus accident on the way.....all things considered, the deck was really stacked against them on this trip.

Hail!

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Helu would be a great all around 3rd down back if he could block.

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Good....bad?
I'll post later after the rewind at 930

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[QUOTE=Mattyk;1093157]Helu would be a great all around 3rd down back if he could block.[/QUOTE]
The team should bring Clinton Portis as a running backs blocking coach.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1093135]The whole Snyder Hate thing is starting to drive me up a wall. Was he on the field at the Cowboys game?

Sure, he has an opinion about what he wants. Guy paid a bazillion dollars for the team, writes a few million in paychecks every week - you know what, he's entitled.

Does he emasculate his coach in prime time? Is he wheeling an injured RGIII around on the sideline like the Atlanta owner did with Vick way back when?

I am just not convinced that Snyder's "meddling" is anymore than most owners in this league.

Gruden held Griffin out, even though he was physically ready for the Cowboys game. If Snyder wanted to meddle, THAT was the time to meddle. Gruden said "Colt starts" and Colt started.

Gruden is going to get his opportunity. So far, so good. Fire Hazlett and so much the better.

vent over.[/quote]

Admittedly, I don't read every post carefully, but are people STILL saying Snyder made Griff start?

If I'm going to throw my conspiracy theory out there, I think if anyone did, Allen did.

But this all seems silly, Griff is the #1, he needs to be starting anyway. I was hoping it wouldn't be until after the bye, but it is what it is. Dude played above average for having only played ONE game all year. So eh, f it.