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Bye Bye Barry Cofield, I always liked him and felt he was misused by Haz, but he is too expensive now.

[url=http://www.hogshaven.com/2015/2/27/8121647/barry-cofield-released-by-the-redskins-per-agent]Barry Cofield Released by the Redskins Per Agent - Hogs Haven[/url]

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[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/WarpathRedskinsCap.htm[/url]

^^^ updated cap sheet

[I]The NFL has stated that next year's cap will be about $140M. The NFL Player's union thinks it will be higher, but let's go with the $140M for now.

Cap: $140M
2015 Redskins Cap Total: $123.7M
Current Room: $16.7M

Expected Cuts (what I'd expect to happen):
Bowen $5.5M
Chester $4.0M
Porter $2.8M
Paulsen $1.8M
4 Players Replacing at Min Salary: ($2.0M)
Total Cut Impact: $12.1M

Expected room after cuts: $28.8M, and that's probably conservative.

Plenty of room to fill holes, but amazingly probably not enough to fill ALL the holes. We just have so many, sadly.

Still, you can create more space by extending Trent Williams who is going into the final year of his contract in 2015. Could do something with Garcon, too.

I just don't want to see a bunch of junk investments. $4M for Lauvao and crap like that doesn't do it for me. Have to pay for safeties.[/I]

^^ post from Schneed back in Dec with projected cap cuts.


I think we are in a healthy cap space. We have room to do some things or play it safe and not commit a lot of future cap.

I was listening to ravens radio and they have a good bit of cap problems. glad we have room.

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[quote=hutch17;1108035]Bye Bye Barry Cofield, I always liked him and felt he was misused by Haz, but he is too expensive now.

[url=http://www.hogshaven.com/2015/2/27/8121647/barry-cofield-released-by-the-redskins-per-agent]Barry Cofield Released by the Redskins Per Agent - Hogs Haven[/url][/quote]

Chris Russell says Bowen will be too

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Good to see some housecleaning of the older, higher paid guys.

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[quote=over the mountain;1108036][URL]http://www.thewarpath.net/WarpathRedskinsCap.htm[/URL]

^^^ updated cap sheet

[I]The NFL has stated that next year's cap will be about $140M. The NFL Player's union thinks it will be higher, but let's go with the $140M for now.

Cap: $140M
2015 Redskins Cap Total: $123.7M
Current Room: $16.7M

Expected Cuts (what I'd expect to happen):
Bowen $5.5M
Chester $4.0M
Porter $2.8M
Paulsen $1.8M
4 Players Replacing at Min Salary: ($2.0M)
Total Cut Impact: $12.1M

Expected room after cuts: $28.8M, and that's probably conservative.

Plenty of room to fill holes, but amazingly probably not enough to fill ALL the holes. We just have so many, sadly.

Still, you can create more space by extending Trent Williams who is going into the final year of his contract in 2015. Could do something with Garcon, too.

I just don't want to see a bunch of junk investments. $4M for Lauvao and crap like that doesn't do it for me. Have to pay for safeties.[/I]

^^ post from Schneed back in Dec with projected cap cuts.


I think we are in a healthy cap space. We have room to do some things or play it safe and not commit a lot of future cap.

I was listening to ravens radio and they have a good bit of cap problems. glad we have room.[/quote]

I didn't even account for Cofield, he represents a big savings. Assuming Bowen Chester and Porter all hit the road - I'd be surprised if they didn't, McCloughan will have a lot of cap space to work with.

Unless he's imagining Baker as the NT, this could be a hat tip to Danny Shelton at #5?

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Hearing the door is not shut on a return on Cofield for a much lower deal

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[quote=Chico23231;1108043]Hearing the door is not shut on a return on Cofield for a much lower deal[/quote]

I will go ahead and slam it shut

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1108045]I will go ahead and slam it shut[/quote]

No way, he was a very effective player with a specialty of penetrating when healthy. He's perfect as a DE in a one-gap, when healthy.

He's not the ideal size for a NT, and he's older and coming off an injury year, so do you count on him as a starter? No.

But at a much lower salary, assuming he can't find a deal elsewhere, is a very smart move. He could be a very good rotation guy in Barry's one-gap.

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[quote=Schneed10;1108047]No way, he was a very effective player with a specialty of penetrating when healthy. He's perfect as a DE in a one-gap, when healthy.

He's not the ideal size for a NT, and he's older and coming off an injury year, so do you count on him as a starter? No.

But at a much lower salary, assuming he can't find a deal elsewhere, is a very smart move. He could be a very good rotation guy in Barry's one-gap.[/quote]

I agree, if he can get healthy he's worth another look at a much lower rate.

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2 or so years ago he was good, ranked really high for nose tackles.

but if he cant stay healthy, he cant contribute.

i like coefiled more than bowen or jenkins or baker. Im not a fan of baker bc i think he skips his assignment on any given play and tries to penetrate and get some TV time and do his swaggy dance. too much interest in self promotion vs doing his job. as a DT/NT, you need to eat blockers.

i guess with a new DC maybe he will want baker to penetrate and not eat blockers like haz wanted him to do.

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[quote=Schneed10;1108047] He could be a very good rotation guy in Barry's one-gap.[/quote]

one gap as in he would take on the center? or one gap as in d line guys will try to clog/shoot only 1 pre-assigned gap and not have a choice?

or some 3rd answer which im too dumb to even know exists?

i didnt know DE could have one gap responsibility .... (but i dont really know what one gap is)

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/27/stephen-bowen-joins-barry-cofield-on-discard-pile-in-washington/]Stephen Bowen joins Barry Cofield on discard pile in Washington | ProFootballTalk[/url]

boom

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IMO drafting Shelton, and kicking a re-signed, more affordable Cofield out to end, would be cool.

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[quote=Chico23231;1108054][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/27/stephen-bowen-joins-barry-cofield-on-discard-pile-in-washington/]Stephen Bowen joins Barry Cofield on discard pile in Washington | ProFootballTalk[/url]

boom[/quote]

"The Redskins also announced that they have signed right tackle Tom Compton to a one-year deal. Compton started nine games for Washington last season and was set to become a restricted free agent next month."

from the article chico linked. im fine w compton on the cheap for camp. if he makes the team as a backup, so be it.

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[quote=Chico23231;1108054][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/27/stephen-bowen-joins-barry-cofield-on-discard-pile-in-washington/]Stephen Bowen joins Barry Cofield on discard pile in Washington | ProFootballTalk[/url]

boom[/quote]

[quote]When you add that to the savings for cutting Cofield, the Redskins gained almost $10 million in cap space.[/quote]

Nice

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It's official, the rebuilding process has begun.

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Redskins need to start getting rid of older players a year early rather than 1-2 years too late. Cofield is the perfect example of someone that it's time to move on from.

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[quote=Mattyk;1108050]I agree, if he can get healthy he's worth another look at a much lower rate.[/quote]

That's the factor if he can get healthy

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1108069]That's the factor if he can get healthy[/quote]

So you sign him and let him prove he's healthy in camp. He wouldn't command big guaranteed money, so no downside.

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I'll always respect Bowen and Cofield for being good guys off the field, but I'm not sad to see them go. I'm fine if Cofield comes back on a team friendly deal though.

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Nothin but love, BUT can't we just try some big NTs? These signings were not fruitful.

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[quote=Schneed10;1108070]So you sign him and let him prove he's healthy in camp. He wouldn't command big guaranteed money, so no downside.[/quote]

That's true. Always felt he was better as a 3-4 DE

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[quote=Chico23231;1108043]Hearing the door is not shut on a return on Cofield for a much lower deal[/quote]


With Spaggs back in NY that could all so be an option for him .

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Tell ya, so far the offseason is going well

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[quote=Chico23231;1108043]Hearing the door is not shut on a return on Cofield for a much lower deal[/quote]

I'd like to see Cofield back on a smaller deal.

Bowen not so much, even on vet min.

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Nice, out with the old. Bring in more young talent and build through the draft. Its so nice to be in good shape on our cap number.

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[quote=Chico23231;1108080]Tell ya, so far the offseason is going well[/quote]

We are on track to lock up another win.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1108114]We are on track to lock up another win.[/quote]

Lol...well I'm not shaking my head yet as in years past...free agency looms. Luavao and porter signings were terrible last year...keeping haslett last year was horrible. And of bruce playing gm and team prez was probably the worst. That was just last year

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It's time to move on and get better. I liked Barry Cofield and Stephen Bowen. But they both were cap casualties. We saved almost $10 million by cutting both of them. Chris Chester will be next...it's time to bring in some young and talented players.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1108121]It's time to move on and get better. I liked Barry Cofield and Stephen Bowen. But they both were cap casualties. We saved almost $10 million by cutting both of them. Chris Chester will be next...it's time to bring in some young and talented players.[/quote]

Keim was on Inside the Locker room with Mitchell.

He said Cofield is dealing with a labrum injury and the door isn't closed on his return but the team is waiting to see how the situation plays out.

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Nice to see us run our operation like a real NFL team that has a plan to rebuild.

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For the folks into analytics (Everybody but the F.O):

[url=http://realredskins.com/2015/03/01/need-to-know-should-the-redskins-replace-kicker-kai-forbath/]Need to Know: Should the Redskins replace kicker Kai Forbath? | Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url]

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1108138]For the folks into analytics (Everybody but the F.O):

[url=http://realredskins.com/2015/03/01/need-to-know-should-the-redskins-replace-kicker-kai-forbath/]Need to Know: Should the Redskins replace kicker Kai Forbath? | Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url][/quote]

If they get rid of Forbath, I would like the Skins to look at Giorgio Tavecchio (just signed with Raiders) or Janikowski if the Raiders cut him (Tavecchio could unseat him).

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1108139]If they get rid of Forbath, I would like the Skins to look at Giorgio Tavecchio (just signed with Raiders) or Janikowski if the Raiders cut him (Tavecchio could unseat him).[/quote]

According to the article his short leg is costing us more points than his accuracy is gaining us.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1108139]If they get rid of Forbath, I would like the Skins to look at Giorgio Tavecchio (just signed with Raiders) or [B]Janikowski[/B] if the Raiders cut him (Tavecchio could unseat him).[/quote]

I wish we wouldn't go after old ass players. I'd be afraid of him pulling a Sav Rocca; be great for the next 3 or 4 years and then fall off and be terrible. I know kickers have a high shelf life, but Janikowski is already 37 years old. We can't do like we did Tress Way? Find a young guy with potential that's been cast off by another team?

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1108138]For the folks into analytics (Everybody but the F.O):

[url=http://realredskins.com/2015/03/01/need-to-know-should-the-redskins-replace-kicker-kai-forbath/]Need to Know: Should the Redskins replace kicker Kai Forbath? | Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url][/quote]

Forbath made 88% of his FGs last year. He's still a young kicker who can improve to be much better. Where his shortcomings are is on kickoffs. Fortunately he did improve a little in this area as well. But leaves much to be desired. I would rather see Tress Way handle kickoffs anyhow.