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Ereck Flowers coming in for an official visit this coming week. Miami OT who happens to be the largest of the top tackle prospects in the draft. Good size and long arms, mayock has him as his #2 tackle on the board.

We should see the visits pick up as the draft approaches. We know marriota had his canceled.

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they would probably trade down if they drafted him, #5 to early - 2nd round probably gone

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[url=http://was.247sports.com/Bolt/Quarterback-set--visit-Redskins-36751045]Quarterback set to visit Redskins[/url]

Conner Halliday qb from Washington st coming in for a visit. I had heard McC either went to his pro day or had a private work out with this guy. So appears there is more interest with him over marriota.

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Another spread/shotgun guy......

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1110960]Another spread/shotgun guy......[/quote]

They all are. It's what the NCAA is developing in to.

Connor could of been a top prospect before breaking his leg. I would love to see us take a shot on this kid.

[B]What a lot of people don't know about Connor is he called 90% of the plays from the line of scrimmage in their offense. [/B]

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Halliday's intriguing because he doesn't seem to lose accuracy when he's throwing off back foot or from an otherwise imperfect base. Worth a look for sure.

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[quote=Chico23231;1110921]Ereck Flowers coming in for an official visit this coming week. Miami OT who happens to be the largest of the top tackle prospects in the draft. Good size and long arms, mayock has him as his #2 tackle on the board.

We should see the visits pick up as the draft approaches. We know marriota had his canceled.[/quote]

Flowers could be a true bookend paired with Trent. I think he is a similar player to Trent and I would be very happy to see him in B&G.

I would really like to get one of these three players in the draft: Flowers, Scherff, or La'el Collins. I think any of those three could lock down the RT position for us.

Of course, that would probably mean that we traded down and added another pick or two, which might be a good thing for a team in our circumstances.

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[quote=Bucket;1110961]They all are. It's what the NCAA is developing in to.

Connor could of been a top prospect before breaking his leg. I would love to see us take a shot on this kid.

[B]What a lot of people don't know about Connor is he called 90% of the plays from the line of scrimmage in their offense. [/B][/quote]

So he isnt like lame ass Mariota or Baylors (RG3,Petty) offense who looks over to the sideline like a bitch because they are too stupid to read the defense before snapping the ball? interesting

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[quote=Chico23231;1110964]So he isnt [B]like lame ass Mariota or Baylors (RG3,Petty) offense who looks over to the sideline[/B] like a bitch because they are too stupid to read the defense before snapping the ball? interesting[/quote]

^Like pretty much every QB in college football? Come on man.

P.S. Where did that 90% figure come from Bucket?

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[quote=SirLK26;1110973]^Like pretty much every QB in college football? Come on man.

P.S. Where did that 90% figure come from Bucket?[/quote]

Interview with Pac-10. Its on youtube

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Thanks.

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[url=http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/mock-drafts/Charley-Casserly/245609]2015 NFL Mock Drafts : Mock Draft 2.0: Browns leap Jets to get Mariota[/url]

I hope this comes true

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;1110991][url=http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/mock-drafts/Charley-Casserly/245609]2015 NFL Mock Drafts : Mock Draft 2.0: Browns leap Jets to get Mariota[/url]

I hope this comes true[/quote]

Not me! First of all, I want both of Cleveland's 1st Round picks to make that deal. Second, I don't want Randy Gregory. With Both Sherff and Flowers going off the board right before we pick 12th, this trade would have turned out to be a disaster from my perspective.

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^^ Agreed. If you want the franchise QB, you pay. To me, any deal in which the 5th pick goes requires two firsts this year or, if you don't have it, 1st & 2nd this year and your 1st next year (plus more TBD - the two 1's or two 1's and a 2 is just the baseline). I really don't care what the trade chart says.

At 5, we have a shot at Cooper & Williams - to me, the two safest picks in the whole draft. Alternatively, we have a shot at a potential franchise QB in Mariotta (me, I am not sold on MM but plenty of folks are and QB's demand premium prices). Anyone wanting a shot at one of those three needs to pay.

In this draft, the talent drop after six is significant and any trade back increases the chances of a miss on the pick so multiple picks are needed to make up for the lower chance of success on each of the picks.

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[quote=Chico23231;1110921]Ereck Flowers coming in for an official visit this coming week. Miami OT who happens to be the largest of the top tackle prospects in the draft. Good size and long arms, mayock has him as his #2 tackle on the board.

We should see the visits pick up as the draft approaches. We know marriota had his canceled.[/quote]

I would love this pick ( or another OL ) in the 2nd round.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1110995]Not me! First of all, I want both of Cleveland's 1st Round picks to make that deal. Second, I don't want Randy Gregory. With Both Sherff and Flowers going off the board right before we pick 12th, this trade would have turned out to be a disaster from my perspective.[/quote]

The price for Cleveland to move up is both their 1sts this year and their first next year.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1110997]I would love this pick ( or another OL ) in the 2nd round.[/quote]

There is zero chance of Flowers lasting until the second round, so it would have to be another OL.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1110996]^^ Agreed. If you want the franchise QB, you pay. To me, any deal in which the 5th pick goes requires two firsts this year or, if you don't have it, 1st & 2nd this year and your 1st next year (plus more TBD - the two 1's or two 1's and a 2 is just the baseline). I really don't care what the trade chart says.

At 5, we have a shot at Cooper & Williams - to me, the two safest picks in the whole draft. Alternatively, we have a shot at a potential franchise QB in Mariotta (me, I am not sold on MM but plenty of folks are and QB's demand premium prices). Anyone wanting a shot at one of those three needs to pay.

[B]In this draft, the talent drop after six i[/B]s significant and any trade back increases the chances of a miss on the pick so multiple picks are needed to make up for the lower chance of success on each of the picks.[/quote]

Six "can't miss" players, you say? There are the two QBs, Cooper, and Williams. Who are your other two?

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[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins]Washington Redskins - ESPN[/url]

Wow Good stuff here on Ereck Flowers by Keim. Looks like im in full endorsement if we slide a little bit back in the draft then we need to grab this guy. Looks like he could be the best Tackle in the draft.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1111003]Six "can't miss" players, you say? There are the two QBs, Cooper, and Williams. Who are your other two?[/quote]

I am counting Fowler and Beasley. One may make it past six but I doubt both will.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1111006]I am counting Fowler and Beasley. One may make it past six but I doubt both will.[/quote]

For some reason I think the pick will end up being Cooper. Only because I think Williams goes to Oakland

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Dante Fowler Jr visiting today, Vic Beasly lined up next week.

Beasly is moving up high on the boards

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1111007]Force some reason I think the pick will end up being Cooper. Only because I think Williams goes to Oakland[/quote]

Yeah, I think the two QB's go in the top 4. If one of the edge rushers (the current rumor seems to be Fowler to Jax) then one of Williams, Cooper or Beasly falls to us. I am happy with anyone of these three and prefer them in that order.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/16662/dante-fowler-visits-with-redskins-vic-beasley-in-town-next-week]Dante Fowler visits with Washington Redskins, Vic Beasley in next week - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN[/url]

Keim has a list of visitors...I'm torn on fowler or beasly. Lotta folks been moving beasly ahead of Gregory and fowler up on the board much like how marriota has replaced Winston as the #1 qb on some experts rankings.

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Interesting breakdown on Scot McC's drafting tendencies.

[url=http://proplayerinsiders.com/nfl-player-team-news-features/washington-redskins-breaking-scot-mccloughans-draft-history/]Washington Redskins: Scot McCloughan Values WRs and CBs[/url]

He likes WR's and the SEC.

Welcome to the Washington Redskins Amari Cooper.

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[quote=Chico23231;1111040][url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/16662/dante-fowler-visits-with-redskins-vic-beasley-in-town-next-week]Dante Fowler visits with Washington Redskins, Vic Beasley in next week - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN[/url]

Keim has a list of visitors...I'm torn on fowler or beasly. Lotta folks been moving beasly ahead of Gregory and fowler up on the board much like how marriota has replaced Winston as the #1 qb on some experts rankings.[/quote] I like both Fowler and Beasly. Both guys can be immediate impact players in area of need. I think Beasly is a better pass rusher. However, I think Fowler is more versatile.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1111041]Interesting breakdown on Scot McC's drafting tendencies.

[url=http://proplayerinsiders.com/nfl-player-team-news-features/washington-redskins-breaking-scot-mccloughans-draft-history/]Washington Redskins: Scot McCloughan Values WRs and CBs[/url]

He likes WR's and the SEC.

Welcome to the Washington Redskins Amari Cooper.[/quote]

I look forward to it. Cooper reminds me of a faster Reggie Wayne, Torry Holt if you will

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I really hope we draft the best Def. player at 5 . Of course if any team makes an offer to good to refuse, I would love to see that and add more picks .

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From today's Keim article - [url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/16691/bill-polian-on-scot-mccloughans-drafts-meat-and-potatoes]Bill Polian on Redskins' Scot McCloughan's drafts: 'Meat and potatoes' - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN[/url]

[quote] It’s not as if every draft produced under McCloughan; his last two in San Francisco were bad (one of those 13 draftees remained on the roster last year, Michael Crabtree). But his first three produced the foundation of the eventual playoff teams – and five were on the roster last year. That’s quite good.[/quote]

I am the first to buy into the mantra "In Scot We Trust" but I think it important to make sure the discussion is based in reality. Even under the best circumstances, the draft is a crap shoot and even the best evaluators miss. Hopefully, Scotty McC replicates the success of his first three drafts, and not the failure of his latter two.

From the same article - Bill Polian's take on McC's drafting tendencies:

[quote]Polian said in a conference call. “It was meat and potatoes. Not a lot of flash and dash. Just good, solid football players who block and tackle and ran and were tough. You have to give him high marks for that.”[/quote]

I am good with that.

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Sack predictor based on statistics:

[url=http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2015/sackseer-2015]FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | SackSEER 2015[/url]

Supposedly it doesn't take into account performance against the run.

Ranks Beasley much higher than Fowler.

I think it's similar to Nike's SPARQ rating on athleticism except this accounts for a player's performance in college.

I don't think a team drafts a guy because of a prediction based solely on metrics, but I think teams would avoid a guy based on metrics.

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From today's Keim article - [url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/16691/bill-polian-on-scot-mccloughans-drafts-meat-and-potatoes]Bill Polian on Redskins' Scot McCloughan's drafts: 'Meat and potatoes' - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN[/url]

[quote] It’s not as if every draft produced under McCloughan; his last two in San Francisco were bad (one of those 13 draftees remained on the roster last year, Michael Crabtree). But his first three produced the foundation of the eventual playoff teams – and five were on the roster last year. That’s quite good.[/quote]

I am the first to buy into the mantra "In Scot We Trust" but I think it important to make sure the discussion is based in reality. Even under the best circumstances, the draft is a crap shoot and even the best evaluators miss. Hopefully, Scotty McC replicates the success of his first three drafts, and not the failure of his latter two.

From the same article - Bill Polian's take on McC's drafting tendencies:

[quote]Polian said in a conference call. “It was meat and potatoes. Not a lot of flash and dash. Just good, solid football players who block and tackle and ran and were tough. You have to give him high marks for that.”[/quote]

I am good with that.

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[quote=budw38;1111063]I really hope we draft the best Def. player at 5 . Of course if any team makes an offer to good to refuse, I would love to see that and add more picks .[/quote]

Agree, I would like to see our first two picks on DF OLB/DL/ILB.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1111091]From today's Keim article - [url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/16691/bill-polian-on-scot-mccloughans-drafts-meat-and-potatoes]Bill Polian on Redskins' Scot McCloughan's drafts: 'Meat and potatoes' - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN[/url]



I am the first to buy into the mantra "In Scot We Trust" but I think it important to make sure the discussion is based in reality. Even under the best circumstances, the draft is a crap shoot and even the best evaluators miss. Hopefully, Scotty McC replicates the success of his first three drafts, and not the failure of his latter two.

From the same article - Bill Polian's take on McC's drafting tendencies:



I am good with that.[/quote]

His first 3 were good, last 2 bad. That sounds to me like a his personal life may have been starting to overtake his sports judgement. (I could be completely wrong). This year will be Sm's strongest draft as a Redskins GM. I am 100% convinced of that. If we have a bunch of misfires, then we will have a very painful path ahead as we all try to convince ourselves it was; his time off, his personal life, BA/DS meddling, the karma of the Redskins name, our destiny.

This is a no excuses draft. We should come away with several players who will be lynchpins to any success we have going forward.

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Leonard Williams coming in to visit

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We need a big complete TE that can block and catch passes. Jordan Reed is injury prone and not a good blocker. I like this guy:

[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beGSEYzHlyo"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beGSEYzHlyo[/URL]

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[quote=Defensewins;1111217]We need a big complete TE that can block and catch passes. Jordan Reed is injury prone and not a good blocker. I like this guy:

[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beGSEYzHlyo"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beGSEYzHlyo[/URL][/quote]

Yes and yes.

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[quote=Defensewins;1111217]We need a big complete TE that can block and catch passes. Jordan Reed is injury prone and not a good blocker. I like this guy:

[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beGSEYzHlyo"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beGSEYzHlyo[/URL][/quote]

Redskins take Walford in the Washington Post's Mock 2.0

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2015/04/17/seven-round-redskins-mock-draft-take-two/?tid=pm_sports_pop]Seven-round Redskins mock draft, take two - The Washington Post[/url]

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TE has been the most overlooked problem the last several years, can't believe more folks don't talk about the shit show on the field that has position been.

Long overdue to address and would welcome help

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TEs and a RB that can block have been big issues. we've been terrible there for two years now (at least).

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[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3X3h8p-_Xo[/url]

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg17pcORq6w[/url]

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NesRGybuFRY[/url]

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zFMVMMNh9w[/url]


Anyone of these guys would make me happy.