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MTK 04-30-2015 10:07 PM

Let's talk Brandon Scherff
 
Good read to kick this off with...

[url=http://mmqb.si.com/2015/03/11/2015-draft-brandon-scherff-iowa/]Profile of Iowa's Brandon Scherff, NFL draft's top offensive lineman | The MMQB with Peter King[/url]

Chico23231 04-30-2015 10:11 PM

Re: Let's talk Brandon Scherff
 
Holes in pass protection...at 5 u need to pass protect well. Let's hope he can put that part of his game together

Chief X_Phackter 04-30-2015 10:22 PM

Re: Let's talk Brandon Scherff
 
While I think there is little doubt we got the best Offensive Lineman in the draft, this looks more like a need pick than a best available pick (I thought best available would be the strategy). One could argue that it was a bit of a reach, but I'm not mad about it. Maybe they had him graded higher than Williams, White, Beasley...

Should be a solid contributor for a long time barring injury.

Ruhskins 04-30-2015 10:22 PM

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I'd like to ask all these pundits complaining that Scherff went to early: if a team was not willing to trade down with the Redskins, how was the team supposed to get him later in the draft? Scherff would have gone four picks later to the Giants.

mbedner3420 04-30-2015 10:25 PM

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1112165]While I think there is little doubt we got the best Offensive Lineman in the draft, this looks more like a need pick than a best available pick (I thought best available would be the strategy). One could argue that it was a bit of a reach, but I'm not mad about it. Maybe they had him graded higher than Williams, White, Beasley...

Should be a solid contributor for a long time barring injury.[/quote]

Albert Breer tweeted he was 3rd on the skins board after fowler and cooper, so they technically got good value.

Ruhskins 04-30-2015 10:26 PM

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1112165]While I think there is little doubt we got the best Offensive Lineman in the draft, this looks more like a need pick than a best available pick (I thought best available would be the strategy). One could argue that it was a bit of a reach, but I'm not mad about it. [B]Maybe they had him graded higher than Williams, White, Beasley...[/B]

Should be a solid contributor for a long time barring injury.[/quote]

They did, Scot McC's draftboard:

1. Fowler
2. Cooper
3. Schreff

Chief X_Phackter 04-30-2015 10:31 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1112170]They did, Scot McC's draftboard:

1. Fowler
2. Cooper
3. Schreff[/quote]

Then they got their man. Can't be upset about that.

Schneed10 04-30-2015 10:41 PM

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If you think this is a reach then you weren't paying attention to the salaries that very mediocre RTs commanded in free agency this year.

I love this pick. Very consistent player, and most importantly a nasty tone setter that I've been calling for.

Laken Tomlinson at the top of the 2nd would be terrific.

Schneed10 04-30-2015 10:44 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1112156]Holes in pass protection...at 5 u need to pass protect well. Let's hope he can put that part of his game together[/quote]

He's incredibly athletic, the footwork issues are coachable. The athleticism isn't. He immediately improves our RT pass protection on athleticism alone, with the potential to develop to pro bowl level with coaching.

More importantly, him and Trent will make teams feel it when they play us. Hit, hit, and hit again. We need more of it.

SFREDSKIN 04-30-2015 10:44 PM

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Williams would have been a great pick, but we needed Scherff more. I like the word "Nasty" and don't have a problem with the pick. I want to see the second coming of Russ Grimm or Tre Johnson (minus injuries)

Chico23231 04-30-2015 10:48 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;1112184]He's incredibly athletic, the footwork issues are coachable. The athleticism isn't. He immediately improves our RT pass protection on athleticism alone, with the potential to develop to pro bowl level with coaching.

More importantly, him and Trent will make teams feel it when they play us. Hit, hit, and hit again. We need more of it.[/quote]

we are going commit to running the ball again big time...I really wonder how Jay feels about that?

Schneed10 04-30-2015 10:52 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1112186]we are going commit to running the ball again big time...I really wonder how Jay feels about that?[/quote]

Probably great because our quarterbacks suck.

Chico23231 04-30-2015 10:57 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;1112187]Probably great because our quarterbacks suck.[/quote]

Lol yup.

But we know gruden loves to throw the ball a ton

MTK 04-30-2015 10:58 PM

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Gruden wanted to shift to more power running last year but we simply didn't have the horses, and playing from behind constantly and with a shitty D doesn't help. And with Callahan coming here it's obvious the direction we're moving.

Chico23231 04-30-2015 11:01 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;1112190]Gruden wanted to shift to more power running last year but we simply didn't have the horses, and playing from behind constantly and with a shitty D doesn't help. And with Callahan coming here it's obvious the direction we're moving.[/quote]

I welcome it for sure...We need to add a rb this draft

JoeRedskin 04-30-2015 11:12 PM

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Every time I think I that they have finally abused me so much that I am cured of my B&G addiction they suck me back in. I hate that I really, really like this pick more and more with each passing minute.

He's probably gonna suck.

JoeRedskin 04-30-2015 11:16 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;1112183]If you think this is a reach then you weren't paying attention to the salaries that very mediocre RTs commanded in free agency this year.

I love this pick. Very consistent player, and most importantly a nasty tone setter that I've been calling for.

Laken Tomlinson at the top of the 2nd would be terrific.[/quote]

Tomlinson went to Detroit at No. 28.

Hog1 04-30-2015 11:17 PM

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How long has it been since we could call a running play on 3rd and 2 with.....ANY confidence? How cool would it be?
Welcome to the B&G, Brandon Scherff

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-30-2015 11:46 PM

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1112196]Every time I think I that they have finally abused me so much that I am cured of my B&G addiction they suck me back in. I hate that I really, really like this pick more and more with each passing minute.

He's probably gonna suck.[/quote]

Isn't that the best part?

SirLK26 05-01-2015 12:14 AM

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Sounds like he'll start out at tackle, but will he stay there his whole career? I definitely think he can be an elite guard.

SFREDSKIN 05-01-2015 12:25 AM

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I want to see this starting OL:
LT Williams
LG Lauvao or Moses
C Lichtensteiger
RG Long
RT Sherff

53Fan 05-01-2015 12:33 AM

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I hope the first thing he does in camp is walk up to Ribeus and call him a pussy.

redskinsfan1980 05-01-2015 12:38 AM

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What is it not to like? The guy is huge, athletic, and play with a mean streak.

SFREDSKIN 05-01-2015 12:43 AM

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If Gregory and Collins are available tomorrow when the Redskins pick, who would you pick? Both have red flags. Collins would solidify the OL.

EARTHQUAKE2689 05-01-2015 12:44 AM

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^If it came down to those two, probably Gregory but either works.

TexSkins 05-01-2015 12:56 AM

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I'd take Collins over Gregory. Gregory doesn't seem to be a high character guy that loves the game. Plus he's nimble.

Defensewins 05-01-2015 01:05 AM

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How about S Landon Collins? Supposed best safety in the draft. Ferocious run stopper.

redskinsfan1980 05-01-2015 01:24 AM

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I think we should draft Gregory. Just a few weeks ago this guy was projected to go in the top ten. If we could still grab in with our second pick would be huge for us.

81forHOF 05-01-2015 02:31 AM

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VERY excited about this pick. He was #1 on my wishlist.

skinsfaninok 05-01-2015 06:21 AM

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I'm happy with this pick, we r building a foundation just like SF did.

EARTHQUAKE2689 05-01-2015 07:12 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1112244]I'm happy with this pick, we r building a foundation just like SF did.[/quote]

Hopefully it doesn't end with an overthrown fade route in the Super Bowl like the 49ers.

drew54 05-01-2015 07:31 AM

Re: Let's talk Brandon Scherff
 
[url=http://www.blackheartgoldpants.com/football/2015/4/30/8519621/iowa-football-brandon-scherff-offensive-line-tackle-guard-nfl-draft-2015]So You've Drafted Brandon Scherff: A New Owner's Guide - Black Heart Gold Pants[/url]

Here's a write up from my favorite local fan site.

53Fan 05-01-2015 09:01 AM

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[url=http://was.247sports.com/Bolt/Redskins-Brandon-Scherff-has-Alfred-Morris-ESPN-team-excited-37056641]Redskins: Brandon Scherff has Alfred Morris, ESPN team excited[/url]

Schneed10 05-01-2015 10:24 AM

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[quote=53Fan;1112220]I hope the first thing he does in camp is walk up to Ribeus and call him a pussy.[/quote]

Bingo. Time for a new tone. Trent, Scherff, Pot Roast, Hatcher... I want to see them with fingers in people's face telling them how it's gonna be.

I want them so loud and forceful that Rob doesn't even need to lead.

over the mountain 05-01-2015 10:27 AM

Re: Let's talk Brandon Scherff
 
I really like it.

4 positives:

- we took BPA
- fills huge need at RT where we didnt have a starter
- provides some insurance if trent does not agree to an extension
- leadership, apparently the guy was a permanent captain at iowa

really wish we could lock trent up long term in the near future.

his write ups remind me of Brian Balaugas.

Schneed10 05-01-2015 10:29 AM

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I love the impact this has on the running game. In previous seasons we've gotten very predictable when it's been 3rd & short or goalline situations. We always run behind Trent. And why wouldn't we, he was the only one that could consistently clear a path. In 2012 we got away with it because the read option had DEs staying home. But with our move away from it, teams have known that when we need to run, it goes behind Trent.

But now on 3rd & short when everyone knows we're likely to run, they'll have to guess which side it's going to. It causes the defense to spread its resources across the entire formation, increasing the chances of success everywhere along the line, especially directly in front of Trent.

I think this makes Trent an even better run blocker because of the easier road he'll face.

over the mountain 05-01-2015 10:37 AM

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good point schneed. this opens up a lot of options, on and off the field.

53Fan 05-01-2015 11:42 AM

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“And I know Jay Gruden a little bit. He wants to bring back some of the history of the Redskins, and if you want to do that, you’ve gotta have the Hogs, man. And Brandon Scherff, a very complete offensive tackle at Iowa that has been well-trained by [Hawkeyes Coach] Kirk Ferentz, will bring something to the Redskins that the Redskins haven’t had in a long time.”

Love this quote from Jon Gruden.

skinsfan69 05-01-2015 11:47 AM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1112223]If Gregory and Collins are available tomorrow when the Redskins pick, who would you pick? Both have red flags. Collins would solidify the OL.[/quote]

I would take Collins if he's 100 percent in the clear. You can put him in at LG and we're on our way to getting back to some serious o-line play.

Ruhskins 05-01-2015 11:49 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1112293]I would take Collins if he's 100 percent in the clear. You can put him in at LG and we're on our way to getting back to some serious o-line play.[/quote]

Sadly, he won't be 100 percent clear until after the draft. Which sucks for him if he indeed had nothing to do with what happened.


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