Jamison Crowder Potential Domestic Violence
 

A woman posted pictures showing cuts and bruises claiming a history of domestic violence at the hands of Redskins WR Jamison Crowder.

The Redskins have issued a statement:

[QUOTE]“The Washington Redskins are aware of an off-field situation involving Jamison Crowder. We have been in touch with the NFL office and will continue to follow proper League protocol and assist them in any way we can to gather all of the facts. We will not be making any further comment at this time.”[/QUOTE]

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/06/04/washington-aware-of-alleged-domestic-violence-incident-involving-jamison-crowder/]Washington, NFL “aware of” alleged domestic violence incident involving Jamison Crowder | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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if true, some scouts need to be fired

Update: [url=http://nfldraftdiamonds.com/agent-of-redskins-wr-jamison-crowder-says-his-clients-accounts-were-hacked/]Agent of Redskins WR Jamison Crowder says his clients accounts were hacked[/url]

Is Duke in Loudoun County ?

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^An ESPN Now [URL="http://espn.go.com/espn/now?nowId=1-13014118"]blurb[/URL] says the same thing.

[quote]The agent for Redskins rookie WR Jamison Crowder denied his client hit a woman, saying photos posted to his Instagram and Twitter accounts are the result of the accounts being hacked. There is no record of any domestic violence incident involving Crowder in Loudoun County, where the Redskins train year-round.[/quote]

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THAT would make me sad if true. He is one I would like to see have success here...........
However, he must have pissed someone off and they may.....desperately need an Ass Kickin'

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This is the modern day reason of why someone is - innocent until proven guilty. My guess is - this would be hard to prove or even reasonably hard to give the benefit of the doubt to the accuser if the injuries are not fairly recent or were not reported to the police at the time they occurred.

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I would think in this case, the NFL would have to wait until this gets into the judicial system and plays out- if it even gets to that point.

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[url]https://twitter.com/P_Hazard/status/606482750040875008[/url]

Judging from these pics, doesn't look good. If he indeed did this, the Redskins should just part ways with him. Apparently it isn't a one time thing either, he's been doing this over the course of their relationship.

Jamison Crowder Potential Domestic Violence
 

[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1114115][url]https://twitter.com/P_Hazard/status/606482750040875008[/url]



Judging from these pics, doesn't look good. If he indeed did this, the Redskins should just part ways with him. Apparently it isn't a one time thing either, he's been doing this over the course of their relationship.[/QUOTE]


It doesn't look good only because Crowder's side isn't in strong denial of this. I still would reserve judgment because at this point it's literally a she said/he said type of story. Where you can give Crowder the benefit of doubt is- this apparently is being triggered by his girlfriend being/feeling scorned. And the accusation doesn't seem to be made directly because of being abused.

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... It just seems her reasons behind the accusations are a little shady. Doesn't mean they're not true but gives reason to doubt them.

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[url=http://wtvr.com/2015/05/28/charges-will-be-dismissed-for-vcu-basketball-star-mo-alie-cox-after-video-surfaces/]Charges against VCU basketball star Mo Alie-Cox dropped after video surfaces | WTVR.com[/url]

Folks read this story about what a star basketball player here in Richmond just went through. His name was dragged through the mud for a month or so as a guy who punches a women....what everybody didn't know was at a hearing a video surfaced showing the incident where our basketball player had his back turned to the alleged victim.

The dumb bitch just submited an apology letter the other day:

[url=http://www.richmond.com/news/local/city-of-richmond/pdf_b69a20c0-095b-11e5-9195-6375e9aa3ee2.html]PDF: Morgan Kaye's apology letter to Mo Alie-Cox - Richmond.com: City Of Richmond News[/url]

lets see how this plays out before we say eff him and cut him...

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I hope she filed some kind of police report, other wise not sure what can be done.

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Crowder's camp is flatly denying the incident. For now that is good enough for me. That would change if information of his guilt surfaces.
But for now "he is innocent".

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How about this, since we live in a country where the rule of law is supposed to be important, why doesn't everyone wait for something other than one side of a story to come out before passing judgement. I have no damn idea what happened. What is known now is that someone is accusing him of something and posted pictures. That's it. I am sure he'll have a side. I know this might be a surprise but, shocker, she could be lying. Of course maybe she isn't in which case he should get cut and prosecuted but for now we have a one-sided story and nothing but pictures that prove nothing really. I'm not defending anything other than the concept of reasonable and rational thought.

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Domestic Violence is a big concern and should never be taken lightly but I do have two word for people ,"Duke Lacrosse".Yes I know it wasn't DV but it was false accusations that ran rampant .

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Hope for his sake it's not true.

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[quote=Mattyk;1114134]Hope for his sake it's not true.[/quote]

Im waiting for what Keim has to say about it...too me its to the point i have zero trust and respect for anybody else in the Washington media. facts seem to get twisted easily in cases such as these.

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[quote=FRPLG;1114122]How about this, since we live in a country where the rule of law is supposed to be important, why doesn't everyone wait for something other than one side of a story to come out before passing judgement. I have no damn idea what happened. What is known now is that someone is accusing him of something and posted pictures. That's it. I am sure he'll have a side. I know this might be a surprise but, shocker, she could be lying. Of course maybe she isn't in which case he should get cut and prosecuted but for now we have a one-sided story and nothing but pictures that prove nothing really. I'm not defending anything other than the concept of reasonable and rational thought.[/quote]

FRPLG, this seems like an overreaction because every single response in this thread has said reserve judgment, lets see how this plays out, etc etc. With NCSkins being the only one so far willing to leap to a conclusion.

You're right on point but preaching to the choir.

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More of a response to what I have seen in other places.

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I'm suppose to care for what exactly? If he did it or didn't do it. It makes no difference to me. All I care about is if this guy comes in and plays well.

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[quote=Giantone;1114123]Domestic Violence is a big concern and should never be taken lightly but I do have two word for people ,"Duke Lacrosse".Yes I know it wasn't DV but it was false accusations that ran rampant .[/quote] Domestic abuse is not a concern like people make it out to be. Some couples victimize each other. Yet it's only an issue when a woman is the so called victim. I think everybody should mind their business and focus on their own personal relationships. I'm not in anyway saying that we should ignore somebody who's really in need of help. However, I'm a firm believer free will. If you put yourself in a abusive relationship it's on you to get out of it. Or if you choose to stay in it then you'll have to deal with whatever comes with it. No matter what it's your personal choice.

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[quote=redskinsfan1980;1114140]I'm suppose to care for what exactly? If he did it or didn't do it. It makes no difference to me. All I care about is if this guy comes in and plays well.[/quote]

Is this a serious question? Surely you're aware that he will be suspended six games if it is indeed shown that he did this.

All signs point to him being in the clear, but saying this makes no difference just shows your ignorance of NFL rules.

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PS redskinsfan1980 = wifebeater obv

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[quote=Schneed10;1114142]Is this a serious question? Surely you're aware that he will be suspended six games if it is indeed shown that he did this.

All signs point to him being in the clear, but saying this makes no difference just shows your ignorance of NFL rules.[/quote] Has he been arrested for domestic abuse? If not then why should I care if he did it or not? You people sound like a bunch brain washed drones. Whatever the media rams down your throat you echo it every chance you get. There are far more serious issues going on in this world than domestic violence. It doesn't surprise me because most dudes have been emasculated with no sense of self worth or self preservation.

Anyway, I can careless if he's a good guy or a bad guy. I don't if he beat a woman or murder someone. As long as he makes plays he's alright with me.

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[quote=Schneed10;1114143]PS redskinsfan1980 = wifebeater obv[/quote]No, but even if I was, do you really care? Lets talk about football and stay away from the personal attacks. It makes no sense to get all emotional of something that's totally meaningless.

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Why didn't she file a police report? Non issue to me.

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[quote=redskinsfan1980;1114144]Has he been arrested for domestic abuse? If not then why should I care if he did it or not? You people sound like a bunch brain washed drones. Whatever the media rams down your throat you echo it every chance you get. There are far more serious issues going on in this world than domestic violence. It doesn't surprise me because most dudes have been emasculated with no sense of self worth or self preservation.

Anyway, I can careless if he's a good guy or a bad guy. I don't if he beat a woman or murder someone. As long as he makes plays he's alright with me.[/quote]

Because no arrest doesn't necessarily mean out of the woods. The NFL is still fact finding. Like I said it's looking more likely that they won't find anything, but until we hear from that 'brainwashing' media that the NFL considers it a non issue, there remains a chance that we could be without a very important player for the first six games.

He can't make plays if he's not on the field. Then you'll care. I feel like you're willfully ignorant of the facts in this situation.

It's probably going to end up nothing, but probably is not definitely.

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Well this got dumb real quick.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1114155]Why didn't she file a police report? Non issue to me.[/quote]

Yeah that's the piece that points to this being a hacked account more than anything.

Keim came out and said there is no record of a police report filed against Crowder in Loudon county. But Crowder hasn't been in Loudon county long. If he did commit this crime then it probably took place in North Carolina sometime before he moved to the area.

If you put any stock in the message posted, it claims that Crowder has done this over time and the post explains that the woman is just now coming forward with it because it's finally clear to her that Crowder has moved on and they won't end up together. So that's the part where the NFL's fact-finding continues, they are trying to ascertain whether he did this, and when he did it.

It is looking more like a case of someone screwing around with him, or if he really did it and there is no police report, then the NFL probably doesn't have what it would need to hand down a suspension. Furthermore, if it is found that Crowder actually did this during his time at Duke prior to being drafted, you have the interesting angle of whether the NFL even has the right to discipline a player for something committed before they were an NFL player. I would say no.

So more to come and I think all will work out for Crowder but facts are still being found. As much as we'd like to ignore this and brush it off that would be ignorant of the current situation.

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Local TV article with the photos and screen shot of post. No complaints ever filed in Durham or with school.
[url=http://abc11.com/news/former-duke-star-accused-of-domestic-violence-on-instagram/767019/]Former Duke star Jamison Crowder accused of domestic violence on Instagram | abc11.com[/url]

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Hmmm.......
I'm just...Waiting for the first Patrick Ramsey reference....

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[quote=skinsfan69;1114155]Why didn't she file a police report? Non issue to me.[/quote]Exactly! When he's charged with something then we have issue. Until then, I'm looking forward to the season.

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[quote=Schneed10;1114156]Because no arrest doesn't necessarily mean out of the woods. The NFL is still fact finding. Like I said it's looking more likely that they won't find anything, but until we hear from that 'brainwashing' media that the NFL considers it a non issue, there remains a chance that we could be without a very important player for the first six games.

He can't make plays if he's not on the field. Then you'll care. I feel like you're willfully ignorant of the facts in this situation.

It's probably going to end up nothing, but probably is not definitely.[/quote] Do we have a police report? Do we even have the name of the alleged victim? Even if we did have these things is there any proof that this guy beat his girlfriend? The answer is no to all three questions. What can the police or the NFL do to this guy? Nothing....

I don't even have to look into this whole thing to know this is a non issue. There will not be an arrest because there is no evidence of a crime. There will not be a suspension because there will not be an arrest. So what is the point? Why is this an issue?

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per Chris Russell

Crowder attended a Redskin charity event in the last day or so- this is probably an indication of how seriously they consider the allegations

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[quote=redskinsfan1980;1114144]Has he been arrested for domestic abuse? If not then why should I care if he did it or not? You people sound like a bunch brain washed drones. Whatever the media rams down your throat you echo it every chance you get. There are far more serious issues going on in this world than domestic violence. It doesn't surprise me because most dudes have been emasculated with no sense of self worth or self preservation.

[B]Anyway, I can careless if he's a good guy or a bad guy. I don't if he beat a woman or murder someone. As long as he makes plays he's alright with me.[/B][/quote]

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/ffOKgx0.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=Irrefutable;1114164]per Chris Russell

Crowder attended a Redskin charity event in the last day or so- this is probably an indication of how seriously they consider the allegations[/quote]
Where is the evidence? Where is the police report? Did they even identified a victim? Even if he did do this there is no proof. This is nothing more than pandering.

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[quote=SirLK26;1114166][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/ffOKgx0.jpg[/IMG][/quote] What is so unbelievable about what I'm saying? There are people who get murdered everyday in this country and around the world. I'm sure like most people you go on with your day without giving them or situation a second thought. That's assume that any of these real victims cross your mind in the first place. Our military has killed tens of thousands of innocent people in order to kill just a handful of terrorist. Do it ever cross your mind when you're supporting the troops? I don't think so. The only thing I'm concern about is what this guy does while he's on this team. I could careless about what happen between him and his ex girlfriend. As long as he's doing the right thing while he's playing for the Redskins.

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[quote=Mattyk;1114157]Well this got dumb real quick.[/quote]
Sigh..........
It has indeed

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[quote=redskinsfan1980;1114168]What is so unbelievable about what I'm saying? There are people who get murdered everyday in this country and around the world. I'm sure like most people you go on with your day without giving them or situation a second thought. That's assume that any of these real victims cross your mind in the first place. Our military has killed tens of thousands of innocent people in order to kill just a handful of terrorist. Do it ever cross your mind when you're supporting the troops? I don't think so. The only thing I'm concern about is what this guy does while he's on this team. I could careless about what happen between him and his ex girlfriend. As long as he's doing the right thing while he's playing for the Redskins.[/quote]

Oh, dear god.

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Lock this one? Devolved to - I don't even know what I'd call it. Froot Loops comes to mind.


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[quote=redskinsfan1980;1114168]What is so unbelievable about what I'm saying? There are people who get murdered everyday in this country and around the world. I'm sure like most people you go on with your day without giving them or situation a second thought. That's assume that any of these real victims cross your mind in the first place. Our military has killed tens of thousands of innocent people in order to kill just a handful of terrorist. Do it ever cross your mind when you're supporting the troops? I don't think so. The only thing I'm concern about is what this guy does while he's on this team. I could careless about what happen between him and his ex girlfriend. As long as he's doing the right thing while he's playing for the Redskins.[/quote]

You have a twisted view of the world bro.

Anyway, with each passing day that we don't hear more on Crowder, it's good news for him. More and more likely that he is being punked a la the VCU player Chico mentioned.