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Did anyone notice McCune's stats in [url="http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread.php?t=6149"]this[/url] [url="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/01/AR2005050100798.html"]WP article[/url]? Bench presses [b]535lbs[/b]?!?!? My buddy mentioned this to me the other day - that's 10 45lb plates. That's obscene.

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[QUOTE=onlydarksets]that's 10 45lb plates. That's obscene.[/QUOTE]

Plus 4 10lb plates. Even more obscene.

The guy did something like 33 reps of 225lbs at the combine. Those are lineman reps right there. That guy's got some power packed onto that six feet tall frame.

And he runs the 40 in 4.41 seconds. Insane.

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4.51 40 but close enough :) thats still faster than some recievers. This guy is a beast and I can't wait to see him play.

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No doubt physically the guy is very impressive, let's hope his mental game is up to par as well.

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Wholly crap that is freakin awesome!!!!!!!!!! This dude is gonna be a great blocker on the goal line.

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I say put him at DE and see what he can do. I'm not sure if he is mentally prepared enough to handle being MLB.

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I hope he's able to learn our defense quickly and start as our MLB. I like him as a starter than others. Our Linebackers were our strength last year and need someone to fill Pierce's role.

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[QUOTE=saden1]I say put him at DE and see what he can do. I'm not sure if he is mentally prepared enough to handle being MLB.[/QUOTE]


hes got a great coach in greg williams. I look forward to seeing this guys progression. What made him a late round draft pick with physical stats like that. Anyone have his draft bio?

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I also really admire the fact that he's served his country. The guy has charater, is physically killer and if he's given the right mentoring could be our best pickup for quite some time.

I don't see him holding out/crashing motorcycles/DUI, etc.

Truly a class act/Gibbs type player.

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[QUOTE=SKINSnCANES]hes got a great coach in greg williams. I look forward to seeing this guys progression. What made him a late round draft pick with physical stats like that. Anyone have his draft bio?[/QUOTE]

Hey SnC, I thought the big knock on him was the age thing?

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]No doubt physically the guy is very impressive, let's hope his mental game is up to par as well.[/QUOTE]

my father was in the military for 22 years and i can tell you,,, 95% of it is mental toughness. not to mention all kinds of free classes. this guy should be the real thing being in that kind of shape to go along with his mental aspect of being in the army and actually going over seas.

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the knock on him by all the experts of why he went in the 5th round was his age at 26. he is in his prime now and thats why i would like him to play very soon.

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[QUOTE=SKINSnCANES]hes got a great coach in greg williams. I look forward to seeing this guys progression. What made him a late round draft pick with physical stats like that. Anyone have his draft bio?[/QUOTE]

[size=3][b]Robert McCune[/b]
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[b]Scouts Grade:[/b] 59

[b]Flags:[/b] [b](A: AGE) [/b]Player may be older or younger than usual[url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=was"][img]http://espn-att.starwave.com/i/teamlogos/nfl/sml/trans/was.gif[/img][/url] [b]Selected by:[/b] Washington Redskins
[b]Round:[/b] 5
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[b]Strengths:[/b] Has an exceptional combination of size, strength and straight-line speed. Is powerful at the POA and shows the ability to take on blocks in the phone booth if he plays with better technique. Has great range and closing burst versus the run. Is an explosive tackler that closes quickly and shows very good short area power. Fills hard versus the run. Has great speed when he gets a clear lane to the quarterback as a blitzer. Also has adequate range in zone coverage and the speed to run with most backs downfield.

[b]Weaknesses:[/b] Is still not as fundamentally sound as he needs to be. He plays too high at times and needs to show better leverage and consistency when it comes to taking on blocks in the phone booth. He must also learn to use his hands better to shed. At times he will take too long to diagnose a play. He gets away with it at the C-USA level because of his speed but he needs to make quicker reads and react faster. Too many arm tackles. Needs to do a better job of breaking down and wrapping up. He has elite speed but his hips are a little bit stiff and he doesn't have great man-to-man cover skills. He has potential in zone coverage but he needs to take fewer false steps versus play-action. He does a good job of knocking passes down in his zone, but his ball skills are below average.

[b]Overall:[/b] McCune redshirted in 2000 and saw action only as a backup from 2001-'02 before taking over as Louisville's fulltime starting middle linebacker as a junior in 2003, when he finished with 143 total tackles, five TFL and four sacks. He started all 12 games (ILB and OLB) as a senior in 2004 and led the team with 115 total tackles, including four for loss, two sacks and one interception. A member of the National Guard; spent six months in Kuwait and a full year in Korea. He will be a 26-year old rookie in the NFL. McCune was much improved as a senior and his upside is extremely intriguing because of his rare combination of size (6-0, 245), strength (33 reps of 225-pound bench press) and speed (4.50). However, McCune is a much more attractive prospect when watching him work out in shorts than he is when studying him in pads on film. He has great top-end speed for his size but he plays stiff and he has lots of limitations in terms of his range versus the run and in coverage, as a result. Furthermore, he still lacks ideal technique and recognition skills, which leads to inconsistent play. In our opinion, McCune is worth the gamble in the fourth-to-fifth round range of the upcoming draft but anywhere earlier than that would be a classic case of getting caught up in McCune as a "workout warrior", not a football player.

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Personally, I love the guy already and can't wait to see him develope under Williams. He's a monster of an athelete and a guy with his character will work himself to the bone getting mentally prepared for every game. I don't think he'll be ready to start for us right away, but I'm hoping by mid- to late-season he'll be our #1 MLB.

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I doubt he'll play this year, but if he comes along quick, I'd love to see him on the field!

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Perhaps one advantage McCune -- a corporal -- has over other rookies is not being intimidated by Williams's military-style approach. "It's really kind of comical," Williams said, "[to think] that I can put more stress [on him] than he's been under."

I think that this aspect will also help him get a grip on the shcem of things, he wont be stressed out as much...

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The question is how does all his physical prowess translate to the football field, Brock Lesner is a physical freak and what is he doing these day's? McCune has everything you want off the field it's his on the field abilities that concern me.

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[QUOTE=dirtbag2112]4.51 40 but close enough :) thats still faster than some recievers. This guy is a beast and I can't wait to see him play.[/QUOTE]


CAMPUS: 4.41 in the 40-yard dash … 535-pound bench press … 565-pound squat … 338-pound power clean … 33-inch vertical jump … 30 ¾-inch arm length … 9-inch hands … Right-handed … 16/34 Wonderlic score.

this is what sportsline had so maybe it is true

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Just curious - how is Williams style military. He tells them coming in you're all the same. That's a far cry from the military where you're shit when you come in (unless of course you came from ROTC -> College route and come in as an officer).

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Even if he doesn't start right away, he'll be a beast on wheels for the special teams. I look for that unit to be pretty damn tough this year.

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[QUOTE=jrocx69]my father was in the military for 22 years and i can tell you,,, 95% of it is mental toughness. not to mention all kinds of free classes. this guy should be the real thing being in that kind of shape to go along with his mental aspect of being in the army and actually going over seas.[/QUOTE]

I don't doubt he's mentally tough, what I meant was can he pick up the mental part of the game, the schemes, running the D from the MLB spot, etc.

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Our special teams was spotty last year. Sometimes great, sometimes extremely poor. I don't know if that's either good coaching with bad players, or bad coaching with good players.

One person who played very well on special teams but didn't seem to get much recognition was Sean Taylor. I saw him throw his whole body into the wedge taking out three of their guys with one hit.

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does the military test their recruits for steroids?

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i say that he just covers recievers down field just for the hell of it

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i expect this guy to give lemar marshall as much as he can handle for the starting job at middle linebacker. he is a physical freak. he will make a great special teams player also. when i read his downsides on that article above, i didn't see anything gregg williams can't fix.

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[QUOTE=Daseal]Just curious - how is Williams style military. He tells them coming in you're all the same. That's a far cry from the military where you're shit when you come in (unless of course you came from ROTC -> College route and come in as an officer).[/QUOTE]
I am not sure I never had the pleasure of playing for Williams, I just went by what was in the article, I guess maybe because Williams rarely starts rookies and how he coaches with "tough love" method.

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Williams will find a way to get this guy in for a few reps to terrorize the offense. Williams is good at putting guys into positions that they can handle.

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[QUOTE=dirtbag2112]4.51 40 but close enough :) thats still faster than some recievers. This guy is a beast and I can't wait to see him play.[/QUOTE]
looks to me like we found our middle linebacker :food-smil cheers skins for finding this talent.

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if williams can fine tune his skills mccune is a pro-bowler. i like him at ethier de or mlb. if barrows comes back 100% and mccune can pass rush we're golden

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[QUOTE=oldswill]if williams can fine tune his skills mccune is a pro-bowler. i like him at ethier de or mlb. [/QUOTE]

You're joking, right? I think McCune's going to be a great addition to the squad. Still, don't you think that it's going a bit far to say that a late-round draft pick who has yet to play one down in the NFL merely needs to be "fine tune[d]" to become a pro bowler?

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I just can't get over the fact Greg Williams said he'll take a look at Lemar Marshall at MLB. I was hoping we'd try to draft a guy like Nebraska's Barrett Ruud. He went a little early, but it's no need to dwell on what's not now. :oink:

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I think that Marshall is a natural MLB who was basically asked to play outside last year due to injuries

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My guess is that he will take the path Pierce took. Sit on the sidelines for a year or so and watch the senior varsity play then he will become an excellent starter in the league very quickly and possibly a PB'er if he is really good.

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Heh! Pierce sat on the sidelines for quite some time. He was always an above average 'backer, but no one had the heart to try him there! I think he's a good player, smart, but still made to look better because of the scheme.

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[QUOTE=Daseal]Heh! Pierce sat on the sidelines for quite some time. He was always an above average 'backer, but no one had the heart to try him there! I think he's a good player, smart, but still made to look better because of the scheme.[/QUOTE]


Schemes more so than not make the player, that's why I was so against drafting DG in the first, Williams has the ability to put a decent LB into the right situation and utilize all his talent, I had said early on we could get a LB in the later rds. to replace Pierce, but McCune has some work to do to supplant Marshall, at least early on, Marshall may not be the ideal MLB but he has experience in our defense and should adapt much quicker than McCune, I believe Williams will make a good LB out of him, my concern about him is this, he has straight line speed but is he fluid enough to stop and cut when attempting to cover a reciever? Which is a big deal in Williams defense, it is also one of the reasons Trotter was sent packing, and this kid has a lot of similarities to Trotter, hopefully he will cover just fine, I just like to evaluate everything about a player, and I guess the biggest question is is he an instinctive football player or did he get by in college on shear athletisism? I am rooting for him though if he can play like his body say's he can he will be a monster.

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Even if he never plays a down on defense, I like him as a special teams addition. Can you imagine this guy running full tilt at you? The only concern is that he outruns the kick!

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It's not what you look like on paper its how you perform in pratice and on game day.I have always liked these kind of guys who work their way into the NFL. We know he does not lack effort from how he got here. We can only hope that he will turn into that gem we are hoping he will be and becomes a beast in our defense and special teams.

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]I think that Marshall is a natural MLB who was basically asked to play outside last year due to injuries[/QUOTE]

A natural? Hmmm. I will say that he's plays within the scheme but, as a 'natural' MLB you carry a heavy load of tackling and taking on and slipping blocks. He should get his weight up because of that but, in Greg Williams defense the DL carries the load. Marshall won't be asked to shoot the gap every down like Trotter does in PHI. I just wish he gets rid of that ugly number 98 jersey. :oink:

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Yeah by "natural" I meant I think he played MLB in high school and college before he was asked to move outside last year...just to clarify