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mooby 05-21-2005 10:26 AM

Carlos Rogers online journal
 
hey i was over at nflplayers.com and carlos rogers posted a message there abour gibbs. here it is:
[url="http://www.nflplayers.com/players_network/players_network.aspx?ID=37208&strSection=journal"]http://www.nflplayers.com/players_network/players_network.aspx?ID=37208&strSection=journal[/url]


[b]Working With Gibbs
[/b][i]05/20/05 [/i]

It was cool to meet Joe Gibbs for the first time. He's a true legend of the game. He's an older coach, and kind of reminds me of my old Auburn coach, Coach Tuberville. Both of them are older, really know football and are spiritual. So I know I'm going to feel right at home with the Redskins. I'm really looking forward to helping Coach Gibbs turn the team around and getting back on the winning track.

dirtbag2112 05-21-2005 11:40 AM

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Hey Mooby...whats up with the post about total access?? Skins werent on this week!

mooby 05-21-2005 01:16 PM

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i know. i can't explain the nfl networks' actions. i was at their website, it showed their lineup for nfl total access last week, everything was on the show but santana moss interview and the interview with carlos rogers and jason campbell. i don't know maybe there was a problem, maybe they decided they weren't good enough for the show, but i dont' know. it sucks, really, that they think we aren't quality material or whatever they want.

GoSkins! 05-21-2005 05:29 PM

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Good to here someone with a good impression of thier coach and a winning attitude. Lets hope we see another great draft day pickup with this kid.

mooby 05-21-2005 05:58 PM

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let's hope he's the next sean taylor, without the issues off the field.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 05-21-2005 09:10 PM

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What I like most about Rogers is his ability to blitz, tackle, stop the run, AND cover. Antrelle Rolle can tackle, but his coverage skills are questionable. Adam Jones can cover and hits bigger than his body would suggest, but I'm not sure he's as good in run support as Rogers. Fabian Washington runs really fast, but his "instincts" and tackling aren't as good as Rogers'. Basically, Rogers is not a role-player, but can do just about anything a DC could ask of a corner.

offiss 05-21-2005 09:38 PM

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Make no mistake Rogers is the good's, no doubt, he will be better than Smoot from day 1, and he's a Gibbs guy, hopefully Gibbs get's enough of his kind of players on the team that they will become the prevailing attitude, which will go a long way into keeping guy's like Taylor subdued, maybe it will even give him some direction with his life, he seem's to have no direction on which way to go.

wolfeskins 05-21-2005 09:42 PM

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[QUOTE=offiss]Make no mistake Rogers is the good's, no doubt, he will be better than Smoot from day 1, and he's a Gibbs guy, hopefully Gibbs get's enough of his kind of players on the team that they will become the prevailing attitude, which will go a long way into keeping guy's like Taylor subdued, maybe it will even give him some direction with his life, he seem's to have no direction on which way to go.[/QUOTE]


good post offiss, i totally agree with you.

dieselhog 05-22-2005 02:46 AM

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Let's not all start forgetting what Smoot brought to this team in terms of toughness, passion for winning and ecellent play.

Maybe Rogers will be better but he shouldn't really be touted as 'better than Smoot' before he has even played a competitive down as a Redskin - I think that's a bit disrespectful to Smoot.

:)

joecrisp 05-22-2005 09:05 AM

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[QUOTE=dieselhog]Let's not all start forgetting what Smoot brought to this team in terms of toughness, passion for winning and ecellent play.

Maybe Rogers will be better but he shouldn't really be touted as 'better than Smoot' before he has even played a competitive down as a Redskin - I think that's a bit disrespectful to Smoot.

:)[/QUOTE]

I agree dieselhog. I truly hope Rogers turns out to be 'better than Smoot from day one,' but Smoot established a pretty high standard of performance-- particularly over the last two years-- and I don't think it would be fair to either player (or ourselves, for that matter), to expect Rogers to be a better overall player than Smoot right off the bat.

One thing I know for sure, though. Smoot whiffed on an awful lot of corner blitzes, and I fully expect Rogers will provide a significant improvement in the effectiveness of that play, which is a staple of the Williams defense. If there's one reason that could justify allowing a 'true Redskin' like Smoot to walk in free agency, while spending a top-10 draft pick to replace him with a less-experienced, yet nearly as expensive model, it would be the fact that Williams prefers defensive backs than perform more like linebackers in the tackling and blitzing departments. While Smoot had certainly improved his tackling over the past couple of years, he wasn't what you'd call a 'physical presence' as a hitter or tackler.

One could say that Rogers has the potential to be a better all-around cornerback than Smoot ever was or ever will be. Personally, I think Rogers could become one of the top five cornerbacks in the league within his first three seasons. I'm not sure he will represent an immediate upgrade over Smoot from day one-- there's usually a pretty ugly introductory period for rookie cornerbacks-- but I have little doubt that his potential as a 'complete cornerback' far exceeds what Smoot brought to the table. I also think Rogers brings a professional attitude and personality, so in that respect, I don't think he will be a downgrade from Smoot, though he still has to prove his heart and desire on the field on gameday. Playing through injuries really tests a player's mettle, and Smoot brought toughness by the truckload.

RedskinsJunkie 05-22-2005 10:02 AM

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Smoot was a very good player for us for a couple of years. Rodgers hasn't played one down in the nfl yet. He hasn't even been in a training camp yet. Let's not get too crazy saying he is better than Smoot quite yet.

That being said I love the pick and I am glad we got him over Rolle or Jones... Still reeling from the 25th pick though...

monk81 05-22-2005 12:30 PM

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[QUOTE=joecrisp]I agree dieselhog. I truly hope Rogers turns out to be 'better than Smoot from day one,' but Smoot established a pretty high standard of performance-- particularly over the last two years-- and I don't think it would be fair to either player (or ourselves, for that matter), to expect Rogers to be a better overall player than Smoot right off the bat.

One thing I know for sure, though. Smoot whiffed on an awful lot of corner blitzes, and I fully expect Rogers will provide a significant improvement in the effectiveness of that play, which is a staple of the Williams defense. If there's one reason that could justify allowing a 'true Redskin' like Smoot to walk in free agency, while spending a top-10 draft pick to replace him with a less-experienced, yet nearly as expensive model, it would be the fact that Williams prefers defensive backs than perform more like linebackers in the tackling and blitzing departments. While Smoot had certainly improved his tackling over the past couple of years, he wasn't what you'd call a 'physical presence' as a hitter or tackler.

One could say that Rogers has the potential to be a better all-around cornerback than Smoot ever was or ever will be. Personally, I think Rogers could become one of the top five cornerbacks in the league within his first three seasons. I'm not sure he will represent an immediate upgrade over Smoot from day one-- there's usually a pretty ugly introductory period for rookie cornerbacks-- but I have little doubt that his potential as a 'complete cornerback' far exceeds what Smoot brought to the table. I also think Rogers brings a professional attitude and personality, so in that respect, I don't think he will be a downgrade from Smoot, though he still has to prove his heart and desire on the field on gameday. Playing through injuries really tests a player's mettle, and Smoot brought toughness by the truckload.[/QUOTE]

Joe, excellent commentary on Smoot and Rogers. I agree, we need to get him into the games before we can pass judgement. One thing I like about Rogers already is the respect he has for Gibbs, not all young players respect the "old school", looks like Gibbs did his homework on character with Rogers.....Can't wait to see Rogers in action........

BossHog 05-22-2005 08:50 PM

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I too am sure he has the tools. His confidence and attitude will heighten under Williams as well. :oink:

MTK 05-23-2005 10:18 AM

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I definitely see Rogers as being a better fit than Smoot. With Rogers and Springs we'll have two physical corners who can also get to the QB when needed.

Speaking of Springs I don't think we give the guy enough love around here. 6 sacks and 5 ints last year, it's a shame he wasn't selected to the Pro Bowl.

TheMalcolmConnection 05-23-2005 10:32 AM

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I agree Matty. I was worried when we got him that he would be a liability with his past injury history and he definitely performed at a Pro Bowl level.

PSUSkinsFan21 05-23-2005 10:36 AM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Speaking of Springs I don't think we give the guy enough love around here. 6 sacks and 5 ints last year, it's a shame he wasn't selected to the Pro Bowl.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. Love Springs.

Of course on this site, the best compliment you can get is to never have your name mentioned. It seems the only guys we talk about over and over again are the ones who we either don't really care for or not everyone feels the same way about. I would hope we are all in agreement that Springs was the man for us last year, and that we all look forward to having him for a number of productive years as a skin. I'd love to see the guy finish out his career here.

RedskinsJunkie 05-23-2005 01:00 PM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]I definitely see Rogers as being a better fit than Smoot. With Rogers and Springs we'll have two physical corners who can also get to the QB when needed.

Speaking of Springs I don't think we give the guy enough love around here. 6 sacks and 5 ints last year, it's a shame he wasn't selected to the Pro Bowl.[/QUOTE]

NIce post Matty. Definitely a good signing...


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