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I really think this time that the redskins will be on nfl network. I believe that I saw on the bottom of the screen that clinton portis will be on skins cam. Finally I get to see some of my players getting some face time. Also I hope that he put an end on all that noise about Sean Taylor not being here in time for camp.

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I love the way we need to rely on Portis to give us the whereabouts of Sean Taylor. I hate all these "U" guys...

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[QUOTE=celts32]I love the way we need to rely on Portis to give us the whereabouts of Sean Taylor. I hate all these "U" guys...[/QUOTE]
Not all of them. I think Portis has really shown himself to be a vocal leader on this team. He readily admits to having an off year last year (even though that "off year" produced the second most yards in franchise history), and expects to do much better. He is defending his teammates, while still carrying the company banner.

Portis is more than a great back - I expect him to be a league-wide superstar in the coming years.

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I'm really excited about, and I'm sure Portis is as well, to see more running plays tailored to his style this year. He said that Gibbs told him they averaged 5 yards a pop on stretch plays last year. I'm sure we'll see alot more of that this year, and in turn hopefully a 1500+ yard season for CP.

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And with the line that we have, I wouldn't think it was out of the question for him to get 1600-1700+. He definitely has the amount of attempts required.

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[QUOTE=BrudLee]Not all of them. I think Portis has really shown himself to be a vocal leader on this team. He readily admits to having an off year last year (even though that "off year" produced the second most yards in franchise history), and expects to do much better. He is defending his teammates, while still carrying the company banner.

Portis is more than a great back - I expect him to be a league-wide superstar in the coming years.[/QUOTE]


How would we all feel about Portis if the Redskins were the ones who drafted him and he demanded a new deal or a trade with years left on his rookie contract? If Portis is a great leader why can't he convince his fellow "U" boy Taylor to at least return Gibbs phone calls?

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What does being a good leader have to do with getting someone to return phone calls?

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I would think if he is a leader he would at least have the clout to get one of his teammates to call his head coach. Or are you saying that does not fall under the category of what a leader would do?

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He can be a good leader, just not a flawless leader. Since we don't know ANY details, there could be something very personal going on in Sean's life that we don't know about or have any business in knowing about that may not be related to football in any way. Maybe he's seen how everything he says and does gets over-hyped and he doesn't want that publicity.

Maybe HE'S the baby's daddy to Britney Spears. We'll see if he kicks right out of her womb...

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[QUOTE=celts32]I would think if he is a leader he would at least have the clout to get one of his teammates to call his head coach. Or are you saying that does not fall under the category of what a leader would do?[/QUOTE]

In the end ST has to be the guy to make the call. Doesn't have much to do with leadership if you ask me.

He can ask ST til he's blue in the face to call Gibbs, if ST says nah, I'm not going to call him does that make CP a poor leader??

I don't see much of a connection there between leadership and getting a guy to make a phone call.

This situation is all about Taylor, not Portis.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]In the end ST has to be the guy to make the call. Doesn't have much to do with leadership if you ask me.

He can ask ST til he's blue in the face to call Gibbs, if ST says nah, I'm not going to call him does that make CP a poor leader??

I don't see much of a connection there between leadership and getting a guy to make a phone call.

This situation is all about Taylor, not Portis.[/QUOTE]
True, it is all about Taylor. But a true leader is able to convince people that his way is the right way, or at least demands enough respect for someone who disagrees to at least give it a shot. Look at Gibbs. Of course there are alway some people that you just can't get through to without taking extreme measures....and unfortunately it appears that Sean is one of those people.

As much as he and everyone else talks about character, Gibbs has had guys like this before. Look at Riggins, Manley, I'm sure there were a couple more....they had their own issues and were a pain in the ass to deal with, but they had the talent and ability on the field to make it worthwhile. I'm not saying I agree with it, but as long as the guy shows up to mandatory camp in shape and continues to perform and improve in games, I could care less what he does the remainder of the time.

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So by that argument, are you saying that Gibbs is not a true leader?

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I'm not being a jackass, I just like people to think about their logic. :)

Like I said in my post before, you can be a good or even great leader and still not have EVERYONE be on board. Also, since we have no facts to go on about Taylor (besides that it's not about contractual obligations), we are all assuming away and it could turn out to be something very forgivable.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]So by that argument, are you saying that Gibbs is not a true leader?[/QUOTE]
Not I am not. I followed it by saying that there are some people that just can't be gotten through to and have to be handled differently. It sucks, but it's a fact of life.

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on thursday nfl total access will have a feature about carlos rogers and jason campbell. cp is also becoming a vocal leader, but you can't blame him for trying not hard enough to get st back to camp. he's done all he can, and he can only go so far. i can't wait to watch total access tonight to see if they talk about st.

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What time is this going to be on? 10?

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]And with the line that we have, I wouldn't think it was out of the question for him to get 1600-1700+. He definitely has the amount of attempts required.[/QUOTE]If we are going to have a rusher going for 1600-1700 yards then we should have one 1000 yard receiver and one around 900. A defense that is well rested and so on. I hope your right.

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it comes on at seven every night except sunday. they also have a repeat at 10.

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Brett Favre can't get Walker to report to mini-camp, but he's probably one of the best team leaders in the league....so it's unfair to say Portis isn't a good leader because ST is a headcase.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]I'm not being a jackass, I just like people to think about their logic. :)

Like I said in my post before, you can be a good or even great leader and still not have EVERYONE be on board. Also, since we have no facts to go on about Taylor (besides that it's not about contractual obligations), we are all assuming away and it could turn out to be something very forgivable.[/QUOTE]


think about your own logic.:pi_lightb

if taylor was "staying away" for a reason or reasons that are forgivable , he would have returned gibbs' calls.
the reason he is not returning gibbs' calls is becouse he wants a new contract and he is to embarrased to talk to gibbs man to man about it.

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[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]Brett Favre can't get Walker to report to mini-camp, but he's probably one of the best team leaders in the league....so it's unfair to say Portis isn't a good leader because ST is a headcase.[/QUOTE]

Great point, I guess Favre's leadership is in question.

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i for one am having some extreme outrage at the fact that twice nflnetwork.com has promised us a player on our cam yet twice they never delivered. they think they can tell us this and that and don't deliver, well they need to think twice. im gonna be sending them an email expressing my outrage. and get this, it said nothing about the carlos rogers and jason campbell feature on a preview of tomorrow's episode. the website and the show are on two different wavelengths. this is really pissing me off. everything else on nfl total access that has been described on nflnetwork.com happened, except for us. this is fucking annoying as hell. im sorry for cussing but right now im feeling extremely let down by a show that i thought had a good reputation.

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Clinton Portis made his 1st and only mistake since joining the Redskins by even bothering to mention Sean Taylors name in an interview. Now it seems that the fans are going so far as to question the guys leadership qualities because he has`nt hog tied S.T. and dragged him to Washington for practice. They are both grown men... But only one is a professional. End of story.

Wanna point fingers in the Sean Taylor situation point to Sean Taylor and Drew Rosenhaus. Dont call out the guys that are doing everything right! Nobody got after Randy Thomas for " defending " Santana Moss. I mean if Santana doesnt return Gibbs next call are we gonna have a bash Randy party on the boards?

Seems to me like maybe the Tony Kornheiser article in the post had a little bit to much influence on most of you guy`s. I mean the whole Miami thing is getting overblown... Did T.O. go to miami? How bout that other Moss? or Jamal Lewis? Seems to me like the problems the Miami guys present their current teams are common among all players these days. And it boils down to one thing... M-O-N-E-Y!

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[QUOTE=W_REDSKINS]Clinton Portis made his 1st and only mistake since joining the Redskins by even bothering to mention Sean Taylors name in an interview. Now it seems that the fans are going so far as to question the guys leadership qualities because he has`nt hog tied S.T. and dragged him to Washington for practice. They are both grown men... But only one is a professional. End of story.

Wanna point fingers in the Sean Taylor situation point to Sean Taylor and Drew Rosenhaus. Dont call out the guys that are doing everything right! Nobody got after Randy Thomas for " defending " Santana Moss. I mean if Santana doesnt return Gibbs next call are we gonna have a bash Randy party on the boards?

Seems to me like maybe the Tony Kornheiser article in the post had a little bit to much influence on most of you guy`s. I mean the whole Miami thing is getting overblown... Did T.O. go to miami? How bout that other Moss? or Jamal Lewis? Seems to me like the problems the Miami guys present their current teams are common among all players these days. And it boils down to one thing... M-O-N-E-Y![/QUOTE]



great post W REDSKINS. welcome to the WARPATH!:headbange

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Has anyone seen it yet?? I guess I will have to catch it at 10:00.

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its not coming on. i watched it at seven, nobody from the skins was on there. once again they said they would have a redskins player on redskins cam, yet it never happened.

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According to [URL=http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/daily_sked]this[/URL] there is a feature Thursday night about Rogers and Campbell...but I don't see any mention of Portis

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hah. don't expect it. last week they said they would have the feature of rogers and campbell on friday, but it never happened. damnit those bastards. they edited that page and took out the part where it said they would have clinton portis on redskins cam on wednesday. i saw it on there. not to mention i was watching nfl network and it said on this commercial, this week on nfl total access, blah blah blah, clinton portis joins us on redskins cam, etc.

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This morning I was watching last nights show and they said it would be on. They even had a clip of Portis working out in the preview! That's messed up if he's not on. What a tease! :mad:

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[QUOTE=mooby]i for one am having some extreme outrage at the fact that twice nflnetwork.com has promised us a player on our cam yet twice they never delivered. they think they can tell us this and that and don't deliver, well they need to think twice. im gonna be sending them an email expressing my outrage. and get this, it said nothing about the carlos rogers and jason campbell feature on a preview of tomorrow's episode. the website and the show are on two different wavelengths. this is really pissing me off. everything else on nfl total access that has been described on nflnetwork.com happened, except for us. this is fucking annoying as hell. im sorry for cussing but right now im feeling extremely let down by a show that i thought had a good reputation.[/QUOTE]

Im with you Mooby......
The Redskins get bumped twice on the NFL Network, and for what........an aging WR who has lost a step signs with the Broncos..... And Tampa Bay gets the Super Bowl........big deal......... :sleep: At least tonight they finally showed Redskins Campbell and Rogers..........

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yeah i enjoyed that. hopefully they will get a team player on redskins cam soon.

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For any of you who don't have the NFL Network, it pretty much sucks. Rich Eisen is as dull as a coma-patient on tranquilizers (which, BTW is pretty damn dull). The programming is comprised of re-run after re-run after re-run. It never gives you an inside scoop.

It should get better and is worth the money, but don't get your panties in a bunch over it. It might get better once camps begin. It also might improve as the Network works out the kinks and ages a bit. But right, it mostly blows.

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Rich Eisen is only funny on those VH1 "I love the 80s" shows. I don't see why he can't be like that on the NFL Network...

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[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]Brett Favre can't get Walker to report to mini-camp, but he's probably one of the best team leaders in the league....so it's unfair to say Portis isn't a good leader because ST is a headcase.[/QUOTE]

That's a good point. I still don't think Portis is a good leader, but that's definitely a good point.

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portis is more of a cheerleader really...

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[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]For any of you who don't have the NFL Network, it pretty much sucks. Rich Eisen is as dull as a coma-patient on tranquilizers (which, BTW is pretty damn dull). The programming is comprised of re-run after re-run after re-run. It never gives you an inside scoop.

It should get better and is worth the money, but don't get your panties in a bunch over it. It might get better once camps begin. It also might improve as the Network works out the kinks and ages a bit. But right, it mostly blows.[/QUOTE]

I agree Ramseyfan.........even NBA TV is better than the NFL Network, and how often does the NBA win over the NFL in everything. But I will say the NFL Network was great at pre-draft time and showed lots of the players competing at the combine....and coaches falling asleep in the stands :)
I don't think the league quite knows what to do with this network.....they were even invisioning showing the Sunday nite game on the network, then decided to keep the game on the regular networks or cable. Oh well, it might get better once the season is under way. But it doesn't live up to what it should be when the NFL is the #1 sport in the nation!