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Alvin Walton 01-12-2016 06:24 PM

Drafting a running back in the X round.
 
What you say?
Too early for draft threads?
The draft is 3.5 months away.
Thats like 6 days in dog years.
So I've been sniffing around running backs (bye bye Alfmo, you served us well) and this guy has caught my eye as a mid rounder pick.

WENDELL SMALLWOOD
[img]http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Wendell+Smallwood+Georgia+Southern+v+West+GtT_KU_kJbPl.jpg[/img]

[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/2060554/wendell-smallwood]Wendell Smallwood, RB, West Virginia, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com[/url]

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAJqaxWX1kc[/url]

SFREDSKIN 01-12-2016 06:37 PM

Re: Drafting a running back in the X round.
 
I think putting Kouandjio at LG and upgrading the C position would upgrade our running game. With that said, I would try to resign Alfmo to a reasonable contract, if that doesn't pan out then draft a RB. Jones more than likely will be the starter next year.

Irrefutable 01-12-2016 10:04 PM

Re: Drafting a running back in the X round.
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1137403]I think putting Kouandjio at LG and upgrading the C position would upgrade our running game. With that said, I would try to resign Alfmo to a reasonable contract, if that doesn't pan out then draft a RB. Jones more than likely will be the starter next year.[/quote]

I like Alfred Morris, however his days as a Redskin are over. It is time for a fast running back who can make people miss. I would wait until the 3rd or 4th round...... unless E.Elliott slides in the first round to the Redskins pick.

KI Skins Fan 01-13-2016 08:34 AM

Re: Drafting a running back in the X round.
 
[quote=Irrefutable;1137437]I like Alfred Morris, however his days as a Redskin are over. It is time for a fast running back who can make people miss. I would wait until the 3rd or 4th round...... [B]unless E.Elliott slides in the first round to the Redskins pick.[/B][/quote]

I'm with you on that. Elliott has all the tools. He would be a fine 1st Round pick.

Never too early for me to talk draft. I love draft discussions.

Chico23231 01-13-2016 08:44 AM

Re: Drafting a running back in the X round.
 
Just heard Tarik El Bashir on the radio say absolute no way Alfred Morris comes back. Zero chance

jamf 01-13-2016 03:22 PM

Re: Drafting a running back in the X round.
 
Is there a Marshall Faulk type back available?
We need a 3 down back that can catch out of the backfield on all downs.

A guy like Faulk, Roger Craig or even Matt Forte would be a huge asset on offense and give us the ability to run any play on first and second down which is something we can't do with Morris in there.

Kindoy 01-13-2016 03:56 PM

Re: Drafting a running back in the X round.
 
[quote=jamf;1137492]Is there a Marshall Faulk type back available?
We need a 3 down back that can catch out of the backfield on all downs.

A guy like Faulk, Roger Craig or even Matt Forte would be a huge asset on offense and give us the ability to run any play on first and second down which is something we can't do with Morris in there.[/quote]

I hope we don't give up on Matt Jones as a possibility in filling that role

KI Skins Fan 01-13-2016 06:12 PM

Re: Drafting a running back in the X round.
 
[quote=jamf;1137492]Is there a Marshall Faulk type back available?
We need a 3 down back that can catch out of the backfield on all downs.

A guy like Faulk, Roger Craig or even Matt Forte would be a huge asset on offense and give us the ability to run any play on first and second down which is something we can't do with Morris in there.[/quote]

Ezekial Elliott is a very good receiver.

Alvin Walton 01-13-2016 06:24 PM

Re: Drafting a running back in the X round.
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1137500]Ezekial Elliott is a very good receiver.[/quote]

No way we get Elliot.
He'll be gone in the first round.
I see us taking a back in the 5th or 6th....or even later.

skinsfaninok 01-13-2016 06:35 PM

Re: Drafting a running back in the X round.
 
I'd actually like to bring in Forte on a decent deal. He's older but he still has a couple yrs left

redskin37 01-13-2016 07:56 PM

Re: Drafting a running back in the X round.
 
Would you take Henry if he is still there in the second round?

Alvin Walton 01-13-2016 08:08 PM

Re: Drafting a running back in the X round.
 
Heres another young man thats interesting in the late rounds.

[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/player/cfb/131209/josh-ferguson]Josh Ferguson - Illinois Fighting Illini - 2016 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com[/url]

[img]http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Washington+v+Illinois+7x6z2PVy0Dol.jpg[/img]

KI Skins Fan 01-14-2016 06:51 AM

Re: Drafting a running back in the X round.
 
[quote=Alvin Walton;1137501]No way we get Elliot.
[B]He'll be gone in the first round.[/B]
I see us taking a back in the 5th or 6th....or even later.[/quote]

Yes, I know. If he falls to us, we take him as the BPA to us in Round 1.

Alvin Walton 01-14-2016 10:29 AM

Re: Drafting a running back in the X round.
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1137536]Yes, I know. If he falls to us, we take him as the BPA to us in Round 1.[/quote]

OLB/DT/ILB/CB
CBS Sports has 14 first round ratings for those positions.
I think McClue will take one of them.
We wont get a chance to even sniff a RB in the first round.

skinsfan69 01-14-2016 10:33 AM

Re: Drafting a running back in the X round.
 
[quote=Kindoy;1137496]I hope we don't give up on Matt Jones as a possibility in filling that role[/quote]

Ditto. Let's remember that he was a rookie.

Chico23231 01-14-2016 10:50 AM

Re: Drafting a running back in the X round.
 
You know outside of E. Elliott, I see a lot of question marks with the RB draft stock.

2 guys I'm intrigued with is Kelvin Taylor at Florida and Kenyan Drake at Alabama. mid to late round guys...I don't know if these guys are every down backs but certainly fall into that change of pace mold

skinsfaninok 01-14-2016 11:40 AM

Re: Drafting a running back in the X round.
 
I think u guys are already forgetting about jones he at one point in the season led the team in total tds. Let him get a full yr as the number 1 and bring back CT to be the 3rd down back.

Chico23231 01-14-2016 11:56 AM

Re: Drafting a running back in the X round.
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1137556]I think u guys are already forgetting about jones he at one point in the season led the team in total tds. Let him get a full yr as the number 1 and bring back CT to be the 3rd down back.[/quote]

well one thing we found out, Matt Jones wasn't able to make it through a whole year healthy. And wasn't on the field during the most important game of the year. Like some experts said, his violent style of running can open him up to injuries...I think even some said that here, ive heard we have some prophets on the board these days.

CT is another guy with an injury history...

Chico23231 01-14-2016 11:58 AM

Re: Drafting a running back in the X round.
 
One pending free agent to watch this weekend is Ronnie Hillman in Denver. He seems to really him improved these last couple years.

skinsfaninok 01-14-2016 12:24 PM

Re: Drafting a running back in the X round.
 
Good points let's see what he can do next yr

MTK 01-14-2016 12:51 PM

Re: Drafting a running back in the X round.
 
I wouldn't even look at FA backs. Not when you can get someone cheaper in the draft and with way less wear and tear on them. I say pencil in Jones as the starter, bring back Thompson and Thomas, and draft someone later on.

metalskins 01-14-2016 04:45 PM

Re: Drafting a running back in the X round.
 
[quote=MTK;1137567]I wouldn't even look at FA backs. Not when you can get someone cheaper in the draft and with way less wear and tear on them. I say pencil in Jones as the starter, bring back Thompson and Thomas, and draft someone later on.[/quote]

Agreed. How many running backs do you need anyway? Jones, Thomas, and Thompson should be enough. Maybe sign a guy for the practice squad.

SFREDSKIN 01-14-2016 04:53 PM

Re: Drafting a running back in the X round.
 
Silas Redd!

That Guy 01-15-2016 06:45 AM

Re: Drafting a running back in the X round.
 
[quote=MTK;1137567]I wouldn't even look at FA backs. Not when you can get someone cheaper in the draft and with way less wear and tear on them. I say pencil in Jones as the starter, bring back Thompson and Thomas, and draft someone later on.[/quote]

i wouldn't be content with jones as the lead back right now. injuries and fumbles have really hurt my faith in him.

i guess if you have thompson and a guy like pierre around as insurance and take some carries it'd be okay though.

Hog1 01-15-2016 07:19 AM

Re: Drafting a running back in the X round.
 
[quote=That Guy;1137626]i wouldn't be content with jones as the lead back right now. injuries and fumbles have really hurt my faith in him.

i guess if you have thompson and a guy like pierre around as insurance and take some carries it'd be okay though.[/quote]

I would invest some resources in improving our Oline and make all the backs better....

Chico23231 01-15-2016 08:47 AM

Re: Drafting a running back in the X round.
 
[quote=MTK;1137567]I wouldn't even look at FA backs. Not when you can get someone cheaper in the draft and with way less wear and tear on them. I say pencil in Jones as the starter, bring back Thompson and Thomas, and draft someone later on.[/quote]

I think this sets us up for a 2015 TE situation, except Jones isn't Jordan Reed.

I think on offense for the offseason, shaping the run game comes right after resigning Cousins...which resigning Cousins probably the easiest part of the offseason.

MTK 01-15-2016 11:23 AM

Re: Drafting a running back in the X round.
 
[QUOTE=Chico23231;1137637]I think this sets us up for a 2015 TE situation, except Jones isn't Jordan Reed.



I think on offense for the offseason, shaping the run game comes right after resigning Cousins...which resigning Cousins probably the easiest part of the offseason.[/QUOTE]


Not sure what you mean. I'm all for using a later round pick and UDFA, I just wouldn't waste money on any of the top free agents to be.

Chico23231 01-15-2016 11:36 AM

Re: Drafting a running back in the X round.
 
[quote=MTK;1137656]Not sure what you mean. I'm all for using a later round pick and UDFA, I just wouldn't waste money on any of the top free agents to be.[/quote]

misunderstood you, thought you meant draft someone "later" on as next year.

I think the RB Free agent market on a mid range guy like Hillman still more affordable than Alfmo and more productive.

Id like the idea of CT, Silas Redd, a 4-5th round pick, Hillman, and Matt Jones as a stable. Let them fight it out.

skinsfan69 01-15-2016 01:45 PM

Re: Drafting a running back in the X round.
 
[quote=MTK;1137567]I wouldn't even look at FA backs. Not when you can get someone cheaper in the draft and with way less wear and tear on them. I say pencil in Jones as the starter, bring back Thompson and Thomas, and draft someone later on.[/quote]

Problem is Thompson is always hurt and Thomas will be a year older. Wouldn't mind seeing Hillman here for the right price. Real solid all around back who can do a little bit of everything.

Alvin Walton 01-15-2016 01:52 PM

Re: Drafting a running back in the X round.
 
Thompson hasn't done squat...I wont miss him.

That Guy 01-15-2016 09:02 PM

Re: Drafting a running back in the X round.
 
[quote=Hog1;1137634]I would invest some resources in improving our Oline and make all the backs better....[/quote]

well losing our LG immediately and then our C didn't help. we probably do need a new C sooner or later... also the TEs we had most of the year didn't run block well on most downs (including our converted OT).

Hog1 01-15-2016 09:27 PM

Re: Drafting a running back in the X round.
 
NO.....it did not!
Never regret having a stout line that can withstand an injury or two. Makes all aspects of the O better....

30gut 01-25-2016 09:16 AM

Re: Drafting a running back in the X round.
 
C.J. Prosise | Running Back

Right now he's considered a mid round prospect.

Former WR turned RB

Could be a receiving RB with versatility

Alvin Walton 02-10-2016 07:21 PM

Re: Drafting a running back in the X round.
 
[quote=30gut;1138395]C.J. Prosise | Running Back

Right now he's considered a mid round prospect.

Former WR turned RB

Could be a receiving RB with versatility[/quote]

Yes, good call.
I like this kid.

[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/2005662/cj-prosise]C.J. Prosise, RB, Notre Dame, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com[/url]

Bangee7 02-10-2016 09:45 PM

Re: Drafting a running back in the X round.
 
[quote=Alvin Walton;1139124]Yes, good call.
I like this kid.

[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/2005662/cj-prosise]C.J. Prosise, RB, Notre Dame, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com[/url][/quote]

I know most on here want a shifty back, but I'd love to find a Stephen Davis type in the mid rounds. the kind if guy that can get the tough 1-2 yards to keep drives going or get into end zones.

I know we need D-line the most, but I still want to get a quality center - someone who can control the middle and like Hog said...make all the RB's better.

I'm just not sold that Long is the answer at C...he didn't exactly explode off the line as LG last year. Moving him to C means he will have more going on,so it makes me really wonder.

KI Skins Fan 02-11-2016 05:55 PM

Re: Drafting a running back in the X round.
 
If we can get Prosise or Kenneth Dixon (La Tech) in the 3rd or 4th Round, we'll be in good shape at RB. Both have good size, good speed, good vision, make people miss, finish runs, and have outstanding receiving skills. They look like pros to me. Prosise is also a Special Teams maven.

30gut 02-12-2016 05:41 PM

Re: Drafting a running back in the X round.
 
[quote=Alvin Walton;1139124]Yes, good call.
I like this kid.

[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/2005662/cj-prosise]C.J. Prosise, RB, Notre Dame, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com[/url][/quote]Gratsi

RB C.J. Prosise

The first of the mid-round prospects for the Irish, Prosise had a very interesting career at Notre Dame. He started out as a safety before transitioning to wide receiver. Then this past offseason, Prosise made one more switch to running back. This would be the most successful move as Prosise put together one of the best seasons from a running back in the Brian Kelly era at Notre Dame. He averaged 6.6 yards per carry, 2.8 yards after contact, and totaled 43 broken tackles. Prosise’s calling card is his speed and he gained 49.7 percent of his yards on runs of 15 or more yards.

[url]https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/02/11/draft-8-potential-stars-from-notre-dames-loaded-2016-draft-class/[/url]

DYoungJelly 02-12-2016 11:40 PM

Re: Drafting a running back in the X round.
 
[quote=30gut;1139194]Gratsi

RB C.J. Prosise

The first of the mid-round prospects for the Irish, Prosise had a very interesting career at Notre Dame. He started out as a safety before transitioning to wide receiver. Then this past offseason, Prosise made one more switch to running back. This would be the most successful move as Prosise put together one of the best seasons from a running back in the Brian Kelly era at Notre Dame. He averaged 6.6 yards per carry, 2.8 yards after contact, and totaled 43 broken tackles. Prosise’s calling card is his speed and he gained 49.7 percent of his yards on runs of 15 or more yards.

[url]https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/02/11/draft-8-potential-stars-from-notre-dames-loaded-2016-draft-class/[/url][/quote]

He looks like he has a lot of upside but isn't very experienced at the position.

I'm waiting for Amerson's mom, Tawanna, to weigh in.

I believe she has watched more football than PFF Senior Analyst Renner and probably doesn't have the Notre Dame alum bias:

[url]https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-renner-05b4317a[/url]

30gut 02-27-2016 12:25 PM

Re: Drafting a running back in the X round.
 
[url=http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine/0ap3000000639077/C-J-Prosise-40-yard-dash]C.J. Prosise 40-yard dash - NFL Videos[/url]

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DYoungJelly 02-27-2016 09:36 PM

Re: Drafting a running back in the X round.
 
[quote=30gut;1139757][url=http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine/0ap3000000639077/C-J-Prosise-40-yard-dash]C.J. Prosise 40-yard dash - NFL Videos[/url]

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So, he will be the ______ running back taken in the 2016 draft?

1st, 2nd, 3rd. . .


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