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No one.

Trade back in the first round with Seattle and select Chris Jones DT Mississippi State #26.

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Ryan Kelly please

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Who I want in the first round: Eli Apple CB
Who I think we will pick: Andrew Billings DT
Trade down with whoever (Denver so the can grab Paxton Lynch??) scenario: Vernon Butler DT

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[quote=hutch17;1141501]Ryan Kelly please[/quote]

i wouldn't be mad...think you could trade back in the first and get him.

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there's a bunch of good option. i wouldn't even be made if we took doctsun, as long as we also grab a DT.

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I'm advocating to draft defense on the first three picks.
I keep seeing near future scenarios where the NFC east division offense opponents are getting better. We have to be able to slap around their QBs in a much grander fashion than we have been.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1141519]I'm advocating to draft defense on the first three picks.
I keep seeing near future scenarios where the NFC east division offense opponents are getting better. We have to be able to slap around their QBs in a much grander fashion than we have been.[/quote]

We got holes everywhere, but Im still thinking about McC comment about wanting to improve the running game and stopping the running game on defense.

I think we will see the focus here...DLine, RB and Center. Not surprised if I see them go as the first 3-4 picks.

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Trade down is definitely by far my preferred option.

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Andrew Billings NT, Baylor

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1141544]Andrew Billings NT, Baylor[/quote]

you can probably trade back and get Billings or Clark DT UCLA

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My preferred options....

Trade back a few spots, pick up a C & DT with the first 2 picks.

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Trade the pick with Denver

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1141550]Trade the pick with Denver[/quote]

for ?

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Id like Eli apple and I think he'd be there at 31. Him or one of the many DTs

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[quote=Irrefutable;1141546]you can probably trade back and get Billings or Clark DT UCLA[/quote]

I'd take him at 21

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[quote=Chico23231;1141504]i wouldn't be mad...think you could trade back in the first and get him.[/quote]

Even better, trade back take him and get Karl Joseph and a DE in the second. I would be jumping with Joy.

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McCloughan rarely trades the first round pick, he much prefers to take that one and then do his dealing in the 3-4 rounds.

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[quote=hutch17;1141560]McCloughan rarely trades the first round pick, he much prefers to take that one and then do his dealing in the 3-4 rounds.[/quote]

And that would be my preference too...
He seems to think hes smart enough (and most think he is) to get potential starters in the later rounds.

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Well, generally speaking you see more trading in the middle and later rounds league wide. I don't think Scot's lack of trades in the first round is necessarily an indication of his preference, it's an indication that there isn't as much demand to trade up for a first rounder as there is in the middle or later rounds. Trading up in the first round is really expensive. It takes two to tango.

If he gets an offer for that first rounder and it delivers draft chart value, I promise he'd jump at it.

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This draft is DEEP in DTs so I think they wait until 2nd or 3rd round to address that position. I see us going for a CB in 1st. Perhaps Mackensie Alexander or Eli Apple.

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[quote=81forHOF;1141639]This draft is DEEP in DTs so I think they wait until 2nd or 3rd round to address that position. I see us going for a CB in 1st. Perhaps Mackensie Alexander or Eli Apple.[/quote]

While I believe D-Line is the most obvious choice with the first pick, I think CB would be second choice if both those guys are on the board.

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[quote=Chico23231;1141641]While I believe D-Line is the most obvious choice with the first pick, I think CB would be second choice if both those guys are on the board.[/quote]

everyone that wants a CB are you assuming Culliver is done and will be cut

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[quote=Irrefutable;1141642]everyone that wants a CB are you assuming Culliver is done and will be cut[/quote]

not at all, Culliver stays this year. Next year may be a different story. Breeland contract coming up too.

I think CB is a spot where you look at add top young talent when you can....that position is a little more in demand across the league as well. Like pass rushers, top coverage guys you can never have enough.

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That jaylen Smith looks like a promising player even off injury. Wonder if we'd take him

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I have a gut feeling that we are gonna trade #21 to Seattle for #26 and maybe swap another pick later in the draft. For the swap we pick up Kam Chancellor and at #26 we either select a DL or CB. Or maybe even drop back a few more spots to early 2nd and take a WR there and pick a DL with our 2nd round pick. And honestly I wouldn't be mad at all if they pulled this kinda move.

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These are the top prospects I think McC and Skins will target in the first two rounds of the draft, not in any order:

Ryan Kelly center
Ashawn Robinson DL
Noah Spence OLB
Mike Thomas WR
Mackenzie Alexander CB
Andrew Billings NT
Karl Joseph S
Vernon Butler DT
Chris Jones DL
Jarren Reed DL

I see a combo of McC trying to get 2 of these players while obtaining an additional pick in the process.

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[quote=Chico23231;1141872]These are my top prospects who I think the McC and Skins will target in the first two rounds of the draft, not in any order:

Ryan Kelly center
Ashawn Robinson DL
Noah Spence OLB
Mike Thomas WR
Mackenzie Alexander CB
Andrew Billings NT
Karl Joseph S
Vernon Butler DT
Chris Jones DL
Jarren Reed DL

I see a combo of McC trying to get 2 of these players while obtaining an additional pick in the process.[/quote]

Kenny Clark DT should be on the list too.

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...William Jackson III

My top 21 (for Redskins) in order below. I would like for them to draft the highest ranking player left (or trade back).

1. J Ramsey, 2. M Jack, 3. W Jackson III, 4. D Buckner, 5. A Billings, 6. L Floyd, 7. E Apple, 8. V Hargreaves, 9. D Lee, 10. L Treadwell, 11. S Lawson, 12. V Butler, 13. M Alexander, 14. J Doctson, 15. S Rankins, 16. J Reed, 17. C Jones, 18. R Ragland, 19. K Fuller, 20. K Clark, 21. A Robinson

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[quote=Chico23231;1141872]These are the top prospects I think McC and Skins will target in the first two rounds of the draft, not in any order:

Ryan Kelly center
Ashawn Robinson DL
Noah Spence OLB
Mike Thomas WR
Mackenzie Alexander CB
Andrew Billings NT
Karl Joseph S
Vernon Butler DT
Chris Jones DL
Jarren Reed DL

I see a combo of McC trying to get 2 of these players while obtaining an additional pick in the process.[/quote]

I would be very excited about getting any two of those players. If we were to get two of them and add another pick in the process, I'd be jumping for joy!

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1141785]That jaylen Smith looks like a promising player even off injury. Wonder if we'd take him

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He might fall to the 3rd or 4th round because of injury and might not play this year. I would take him in a heartbeat.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1141875]Kenny Clark DT should be on the list too.[/quote]

Yup, I think he is a guy who fits the mold of what they are looking for

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Yeah but who in the world does the team choose. As really need to figure out who can be one that will be durable and with the team for the long haul.

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[quote=JPPT1974;1141887]Yeah but who in the world does the team choose. As really need to figure out who can be one that will be durable and with the team for the long haul.[/quote]

This is why all the pre-draft discussion on a forum is fun but pointless and why McLovin makes the big bucks.

They will dig into the lives of the higher prospects examining character, toughness, seriousness about rehab, work ethic, Saturday night routines, family, friends, and so on.

We are basically making guesses while seeing only the tip of the iceberg

It's still fun though.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1141888]This is why all the pre-draft discussion on a forum is fun but pointless and why McLovin makes the big bucks.

They will dig into the lives of the higher prospects examining character, toughness, seriousness about rehab, work ethic, Saturday night routines, family, friends, and so on.

We are basically making guesses while seeing only the tip of the iceberg

It's still fun though.[/quote]

It's fun and the NFL knows we all love it, that's why they had no problem moving the draft back. We're in too deep lol.

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Keim said on twitter today, at 21 he thinks DL is the choice but the guy to watch was Karl Joseph safety

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Out of many picks I'd be happy with, Karl Joseph is the guy I'm kind of stuck on. Unless Elliott falls (and MAYBE Doctson) then Joseph is my top overall pick. I agree with the coaches who say he plays too hard for his frame, but that's what I want in a safety.

He's Sean Taylor-lite, and I'm not just throwing that type of praise out there without proof:

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L88OIVNvsVA[/url]

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Like look at THIS:

[url]https://youtu.be/L88OIVNvsVA?t=67[/url]

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this play = best play:

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Zhe4qS2o-0[/url]

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I bet Moorman STILL has nightmares about that.

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moorman got up and ran back onto the field to shake his hand afterwards. i bet he was just happy that someone else showed up to the pro bowl that actually felt like playing.