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One of the most interesting nuggets from this story is that last year's 7th round pick, Austin Reiter, a C has added 12 to 15 lbs of muscle coming into camp.

He has a much bigger frame than Lict to begin with and would be around 310ish now.

Lict gained weight last year and came in around 295ish.


[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/football-insider/wp/2016/05/14/observations-from-redskins-rookie-minicamp/?tid=hybrid_collaborative_1_na[/url]

Not saying he is going to be the next C, but he might be in the mix or be a back up.

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I don't think this means anything really but certainly isn't a surprise:

[url=http://pro32.ap.org/article/wr-desean-jackson-no-show-redskins-1st-voluntary-otas]WR DeSean Jackson a no-show at Redskins' 1st voluntary OTAs | Pro32: Head to Head[/url]

I hope he is doing hamstring strengthening stuff in Cali.

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Redskins receiver DeSean Jackson is not at today's voluntary practice session. Jackson has a $500,000 workout bonus he won't collect

So if he won't collect the 1/2 million is that mean that we recoup that amount in the salary cap?

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1144012]I don't think this means anything really but certainly isn't a surprise:

[url=http://pro32.ap.org/article/wr-desean-jackson-no-show-redskins-1st-voluntary-otas]WR DeSean Jackson a no-show at Redskins' 1st voluntary OTAs | Pro32: Head to Head[/url]

I hope he is doing hamstring strengthening stuff in Cali.[/quote]


This didn't sound all that great...hopefully he heals up soon....

[B]LB Perry Riley isn't participating in workouts because his right foot is bothering him again, and Gruden said he'll get re-checked. Riley was in a walking boot Wednesday.[/B]

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1143732]One of the most interesting nuggets from this story is that last year's 7th round pick, Austin Reiter, a C has added 12 to 15 lbs of muscle coming into camp.

He has a much bigger frame than Lict to begin with and would be around 310ish now.

Lict gained weight last year and came in around 295ish.
Not saying he is going to be the next C, but he might be in the mix or be a back up.[/quote]

I like that Reiter has developed his body so he can compete for a roster spot. A real competition at the C position could only be a good thing for the team.

Keith Marshall was mentioned in the same article. I really want to see what he can do. He has all the physical tools a team could want and he's very bright so I feel that he'll learn the position quickly. He believes that his knee injuries are behind him now. If so, I'm hoping we got a steal in the draft.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1144013]Redskins receiver DeSean Jackson is not at today's voluntary practice session. Jackson has a $500,000 workout bonus he won't collect

So if he won't collect the 1/2 million is that mean that we recoup that amount in the salary cap?[/quote]

Yes. And it will roll over into 2017.

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DJax not showing is another story about nothing. It's a voluntary OTA and "voluntary" means you don't have to show up. I am pretty sure his teammates aren't all that bent out of shape about it.

At the same time, I wish I was rich enough to forgo 500K in order to skip a week of relatively light work. ($500K for a week enters the land of "What [I]wouldn't[/I] I do for that?")

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Saw a comment on one of the articles that made me LOL:

"Hell, for $5,000 I'll show up, do some stretches and watch some film."

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1144022]Saw a comment on one of the articles that made me LOL:

"Hell, for $5,000 I'll show up, do some stretches and watch some film."[/quote]

Heck, for $2,000 I'll show up and use some shake weights, lol!

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Makes me think of this:

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Some day he will say to himself "I can't [U]believe[/U] I didn't show up to collect a $500,000 workout bonus".

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I mean even if I'm filthy, f-ing rich, I'm like, "Damn, that's a new high-end sports car."

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1144020][B]DJax not showing is another story about nothing.[/B] It's a voluntary OTA and "voluntary" means you don't have to show up. I am pretty sure his teammates aren't all that bent out of shape about it.

At the same time, I wish I was rich enough to forgo 500K in order to skip a week of relatively light work. ($500K for a week enters the land of "What [I]wouldn't[/I] I do for that?")[/quote]

I'm sure Jason Reid will write a scathing story about it and try to make it a big deal. :doh:

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This guy is got talent if only he can stay out of trouble. We need a 4th pass rusher.

[url=http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/washington-redskins/redskins-sign-outside-linebacker-willie-jefferson]Redskins sign outside linebacker Willie Jefferson | CSN Mid-Atlantic[/url]

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"[B]At Baylor, Jefferson was dismissed from the team after he and teammate Josh Gordon were found asleep in Jefferson’s car at a Taco Bell drive-thru.[/B] Police found marijuana in the car. Jefferson converted from tight end to defensive end and transferred to Stephen F. Austin State and led the Southland Conference with 16 sacks."

LOLOL.

Did they literally get so high, they both fell asleep while waiting on their food? LMAO.

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Tarik El-Bashir: "In Washington, Jefferson will join a corps of OLBs that includes veterans Ryan Kerrigan and Trent Murphy, rookie standout Preston Smith and reserve Houston Bates."

Tarik is slippin'. He didn't even mention Junior Galette among our OLB's.

So, will Jefferson last months, weeks, or days?

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Mike Jones wrote:

An under-the-radar guy to look out for: Outside linebacker Willie Jefferson, who at 6-5, 246, has great size to go with what seems to be good speed and athleticism. A second-year pro who played in six games for Houston in 2013, Jefferson will try to make the team as an extra pass rusher behind Kerrigan, Smith and Galette. Jefferson showed some flashes out there today as he applied pressure off the edge.

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anyone think arian foster might be worth a look? jones spent a lot of time looking bad last year, so i'm a bit nervous at rb.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1144031]Mike Jones wrote:

An under-the-radar guy to look out for: Outside linebacker Willie Jefferson, who at 6-5, 246, has great size to go with what seems to be good speed and athleticism. A second-year pro who played in six games for Houston in 2013, Jefferson will try to make the team as an extra pass rusher behind Kerrigan, Smith and Galette. Jefferson showed some flashes out there today as he applied pressure off the edge.[/quote]

never mind... I did not read the entire thread

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[quote=Irrefutable;1144033]And Jefferson's background;

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/01/14/former-texans-troublemaker-willie-jefferson-lands-in-washington/]Former Texans troublemaker Willie Jefferson lands in Washington | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

I know that, if you look at the previous post I mentioned "if he stays out of trouble".

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[quote=That Guy;1144032]anyone think arian foster might be worth a look? jones spent a lot of time looking bad last year, so i'm a bit nervous at rb.[/quote]

One cut zone scheme runner who would have fit absolutely perfectly in the Shanahan running scheme. We'll see how much more power we use as we move into the 2nd year with Callahan.

I'm comfortable with seeing what we have at RB in training camp, and then calling Pierre Thomas if we need to at that point.

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Are they off today?

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[quote=T.O.Killa;1144041]Are they off today?[/quote]

isn't field practice over now?

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[url=http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/56690/Redskins-LG-Shawn-Lauvao-says-he-will-be-ready-for-training-camp/Default.aspx]Redskins LG Shawn Lauvao says he will be ready for training camp[/url]

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[quote=Ruhskins;1144027]I'm sure Jason Reid will write a scathing story about it and try to make it a big deal. :doh:[/quote]

Well it's kind of a big deal and it isnt.On the one hand it's voluntary and I doubt none of his teammates have their panties in a bunch about him skipping it,except the missing out on a 500,000 bonus for a week of light work kinda makes it a big deal.:mad:I mean thats frickin ridiculous,he's not Bill Gates rich.And it could cause jealousy among his teammates that he makes so much money he can say fock it to 500 grand.If
If this was Dez Bryant skipping a workout for 500 grand many of us would be all over his ass
Now if Djax goes out and has a good season and we do well it will all be forgot about,but if it doesnt go that way it will become more media fodder and they will make it a big deal again,IMO

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Nobody really cares about guys missing OTA's. It's something that twists the fan's panties, that's about it.

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Yeah if you're a rookie, or new to the team, it seems extra important to make them. You need all the time you can get to learn the playbook. But a vet, especially a smart one that knows the playbook like Jackson? It has exactly no bearing on the season.

I don't think it had anything to do with his hammy injury last year, either.

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[quote=MTK;1144046]Nobody really cares about guys missing OTA's.[B][I] It's something that twists the fan's panties[/I][/B], that's about it.[/quote]

My reaction is it would be the opposite of that.I dont care if he misses,you dont care,schneed doesnt care,but I would think his coaches and some of his teammates would,especially if he's the only guy who's a no show.I dont know if he is the only guy,I'm just sayin.

Since I'm not tuned into the local DC radio sports stations,I dont know what the fan reaction is there about it.

And let me reiterate,if the 500,000 bonus wasnt involved,it would be much more of a non story and maybe it still will be.Like I said earlier,if the season goes well it will be a non story,if it doesnt then this will most likely be brought up again and used against him,you know how that shit goes.

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It's his bonus, I doubt any of his teammates care what he does with his own time. Sure the coaches would probably like him to be there, but its voluntary work and they can't do a damn thing about it. In the end no one is losing any sleep over it.

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If the leaders on the team are good with it, everyone else will get in line. Cousins and Hall have both publicly expressed zero problem with it. I'm sure others agree.

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[B]Five Hundred Thousand Dollars![/B] That alone makes it a big deal because it is incomprehensible to most people that he could leave that much easy money on the table. What could he possibly be doing that is worth passing up that money? He must be losing his mind!

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1144051][B]Five Hundred Thousand Dollars![/B] That alone makes it a big deal because it is incomprehensible to most people that he could leave that much easy money on the table. What could he possibly be doing that is worth passing up that money? He must be losing his mind![/quote]

That's a question nobody really cares about. How much athletes value their money? Who cares.

The only pertinent question, if you're a fan, is how this will affect the 2016 season. Answer: none.

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Desean is in a contract year...maybe the last of his career. I expect he will be bringing it this year. Lets wait preseason before freaking out

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[quote=MTK;1144049]It's his bonus, I doubt any of his teammates care what he does with his own time. Sure the coaches would probably like him to be there, but its voluntary work and they can't do a damn thing about it. In the end no one is losing any sleep over it.[/quote]

If I am one of the <$1M players, I am just shaking my head and laughing "Damn, must be nice" and saying to the coaches "Yo, Jay! I run DeSean's routes for you this week for the low, low price of $ 250K!"

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he might be taping his reality tv thing right now, so it might not actually be 500k he's losing.

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[quote=That Guy;1144057]he might be taping his reality tv thing right now, so it might not actually be 500k he's losing.[/quote]

I was going to say this. If he has other obligations that are bringing in more revenue for him...then it may be a business decision on his part. He does have other outlets that bring money in.
I kind of co.pare it to my work environtemnt...if I have a voluntary day, and I miss...none of my Co workers bat an eye. And they actually agree with me missing if I'm doing side work and getting paid more than if I had come in.

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[url=http://washington.cbslocal.com/2016/05/27/5-observations-from-this-weeks-redskins-otas/]5 Observations from this week’s Redskins OTAs « CBS DC[/url]

Second article I've read this week commenting on Preston smith looking like a beast...

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The Redskins are putting up with Jackson because they don't have anyone better. As soon as someone else is ready to take his spot, or he loses at step, he's gone.

No big deal on the offseason stuff. But it will be when he pulls his hamstring during training camp. And I would bet that he'll have some kind of issue in training camp.

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Desean jax is a beast and people seem to forget that our offense took off when he got back on the field last year. The element he brings isn't easily obtained. D coordinators have to game plan for his ability to spread the field.

If desean comes out with a hot start to the season, McC should extend him.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1144063]The Redskins are putting up with Jackson because they don't have anyone better. As soon as someone else is ready to take his spot, or he loses at step, he's gone.

No big deal on the offseason stuff. But it will be when he pulls his hamstring during training camp. And I would bet that he'll have some kind of issue in training camp.[/quote]

Just to point out, he didnt injure his hamstring in TC last year. He fell into a blocking sled and messed up his shoulder which caused him to miss TC. Thats not really something that can be controlled other than having moved the blocking sled prior to that incident. He pulled him hamstring in the first game where he went from sitting on the sideline during TC to running full speed in the real games.

As for your first paragraph, that applies to everyone in the NFL. Players, Coaches, and GMs have to deal with that on a daily basis. Its just part of the job. If we had someone better than Trent at LT, he would have never gotten his new contract. That is nothing more than business as usual in the NFL.