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[U]Plus[/U]

- Only one, apparently minor, injury (Niles Paul).
- All three QB's played well.
- Tress Way was awesome, as usual.
- Players who flashed: Cravens, Spaight, Kelly, Ihenacho, Murphy.

[U]Minus[/U]

- The running game was mostly poor.
- Run defense was also mostly poor.
- Special teams kick coverage was mostly poor.
- Short kickoffs hurt us.
- Will we [U]ever[/U] find a decent punt and kickoff returner?
- Players who struggled: Dunbar, Ross, Paea.

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No major injuries.

On to the next.

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Heard some radio coming in and the best point was...if the running game struggles with Trent and Luavao, then its a problem. With a back up tackle and long then it not a surprise. The interview...and I think he was with CSN Washington...hinted, when Lauvao is healthy, then Long has no business starting in which I agree 1000 f*ckin percent. Marshall is a rookie RB and he has to learn to hit the hole; this is the NFL son, that shit don't work here.

So glad no injuries, but Niles Paul limping bothers me.

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Thought both first team offense and defense played really well. DBs were FLYING around too. I think our pass defense is going to be much improved. I singled out Reyes just to see what he looked like and honestly I thought he stuffed the run pretty well. Not much of a pass rush, but held his own on the line.

This is obviously just off a few plays, but Cravens might end up being a good one.

Better outing (first string-wise) than we've had in a long time, so color my cautiously optimistic. Most of the negatives were either a single player (Dunbar) getting burned by a single player or third/fourth strings nobodys getting run over in the run game.

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On the running game, agree with the comments that without Trent and Lauvao it's hard to knock it. Second, on the play where Jones broke a nice run and Moses was called for the hold, what got lost in that play was how well out in front Brandon Scherff was. He got second level there and cleared a big pathway, that's a good sign.

Secondary - I'm impressed. Breeland looked good.

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Cousins 5 for 5 without Trent and Reed. No deep shots taken and he still moved the ball. I'll take that all day every day.

With Trent in the game the coaches will have confidence to let Cousins sit back there. And if Reed plays the Falcons have no answer.

Excited about first team passing game.

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Have to say that Mack Brown looked the most competent of every back that carried the ball last night. I know it was against third and fourth stringers, but he's the only one who passed the eyeball test for me.

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[quote=Schneed10;1145500]On the running game, agree with the comments that without Trent and Lauvao it's hard to knock it. Second, on the play where Jones broke a nice run and [B]Moses was called for the hold[/B], what got lost in that play was how well out in front Brandon Scherff was. He got second level there and cleared a big pathway, that's a good sign.

Secondary - I'm impressed. Breeland looked good.[/quote]

That was no hold, either. Well blocked play.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1145506]That was no hold, either. Well blocked play.[/quote]

The hand on the outside part of the shoulder will get you called every time, even if you're not really holding. If he just gets that left hand inside the pad then he doesn't get called and Jones's 15 yarder counts. Easy thing to fix.

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I thought Will Straight Outta Compton flashed well. Instincts and reactions looked good, made a few good stops. Really, really like him a lot.

I hate Chris Berman but his Chris Berman nickname is obvious and great.

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[quote=Chico23231;1145497]Heard some radio coming in and the best point was...if the running game struggles with Trent and Luavao, then its a problem. With a back up tackle and long then it not a surprise. The interview...and I think he was with CSN Washington...hinted, when Lauvao is healthy, then Long has no business starting in which I agree 1000 f*ckin percent. Marshall is a rookie RB and he has to learn to hit the hole; this is the NFL son, that shit don't work here.

So glad no injuries, but Niles Paul limping bothers me.[/quote]

Paul suffered a slight hyper extended knee, he'll be back at practice on Saturday per reports.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1145509]Paul suffered a slight hyper extended knee, he'll be back at practice on Saturday per reports.[/quote]

good news

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Running game looked bad period, guys weren't getting blocks going, running backs were in the wrong spots. It wasn't just the running backs, it was everyone.

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[url=http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/26198/kirk-cousins-preston-smith-up-in-redskins-preseason-opener]Kirk Cousins, Preston Smith up in Washington Redskins preseason opener - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN[/url]

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1145512][url=http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/26198/kirk-cousins-preston-smith-up-in-redskins-preseason-opener]Kirk Cousins, Preston Smith up in Washington Redskins preseason opener - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN[/url][/quote]

I really this Maurice Harris guy from Cal...Ross and Grant better be looking over their shoulder. I noticed him in camp and thought he look decent last night. He almost came down with that 1 handed catch...Nate lead him just a bit too much.

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No injuries and our starting offense was solid. Kirk is smart and quick with the football and the online will be very good again with pass pro. Run game won't be our strong point of course but it will be effective enough.

Defense was good too the first 2 series. The falcons starters did nothing last night.

Overall it's PS so nothing to read into. Httr

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[quote=Chico23231;1145513]I really this Maurice Harris guy from Cal...Ross and Grant better be looking over their shoulder. I noticed him in camp and thought he look decent last night. He almost came down with that 1 handed catch...Nate lead him just a bit too much.[/quote]

What did you say? You like someone from Cal? I'm I rubbing off on you? Ha, ha!!

[url]http://youtu.be/leWe_CC5LR0[/url]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1145514]No injuries and our starting offense was solid. [B]Kirk is smart and quick with the football [/B]and the online will be very good again with pass pro. Run game won't be our strong point of course but it will be effective enough.

Defense was good too the first 2 series. The falcons starters did nothing last night.

Overall it's PS so nothing to read into. Httr

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Lets remember this is Kurt's first full training camp where he is the legit starter. should make a huge difference.

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[QUOTE=mredskins;1145516]Lets remember this is Kurt's first full training camp where he is the legit starter. should make a huge difference.[/QUOTE]
Definitely will

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[quote=Chico23231;1145513]I really this Maurice Harris guy from Cal...[B]Ross and Grant better be looking over their shoulder.[/B] I noticed him in camp and thought he look decent last night. He almost came down with that 1 handed catch...Nate lead him just a bit too much.[/quote]

Particularly Ross. His great speed and good route running is worthless as long as he continues to drop passes. He needs to clean that up immediately or face the consequences.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/08/12/jay-gruden-we-have-to-run-the-ball-better/]Jay Gruden: We have to run the ball better | ProFootballTalk[/url]

he saw what everbody else saw

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I'm surprised nobody talked about Preston Smith's performance, IMO he had a monster game!

I also feel, with our starters, run defense wasn't bad...

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•Lightning round: In limited snaps, OLB Preston Smith looked like a player that could control the line of scrimmage. [B]LG Shawn Lauvao dominated on the second unit, and it's only a matter of time until he's back with the starters.[/B] Tress Way dropped great punt after great punt, rewarding him for a ton of work on coffin corner kicks in Richmond. LB Will Compton made a nice tackle early in the first quarter, showing tremendous burst to close a hole. CB Greg Toler nearly made an athletic interception in the end zone, breaking up a would-be TD instead.

•Rookie [B]Su'a Cravens looked like a playmaker[/B], both with the second team defense and on special teams. With four tackles, two for loss, and an impressive play in punt coverage, Cravens made the case for more opportunities. Speaking after the game, Cravens explained he has never played inside linebacker, and in his first game at the position, he impressed.



[url=http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/washington-redskins/redskins-gm-scot-mccloughan-sums-falcons-game-some-good-some-bad]Redskins GM Scot McCloughan sums up Falcons game: 'Some good, some bad' | CSN Mid-Atlantic[/url]

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I just wish I could have watched it. Had it set to record on the NFL network; however, power went out around 3 am and Direct TV didn't record it. But, to hear that we had no injuries is worth it for me. On to the next game!!!

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[quote=mredskins;1145516]Lets remember this is Kurt's first full training camp where he is the legit starter. should make a huge difference.[/quote]

Kurt had full training camps with both the Giants and Cardinals.

That said, Kirk looked sharp enough for a quick series. Hope holding calls don't become a "thing" again ...

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[quote=mredskins;1145516]Lets remember this is Kurt's first full training camp where he is the legit starter. should make a huge difference.[/quote]

Kurt? KURT?!

Never do that again or you're on my shit list. You've been a good poster so you get benefit of the doubt, but Jesus Fucking Christ, bro.

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Positives:

Kirk Cousins looked the part.

Pass protection by the 1s.

Our secondary including Beavis and Butthead at ILB look legit.

Scherff and Moses looked good.

Vernon Davis is a man blocking on a running play.

Cravens nose for making plays shined through.

Preston Smith is going to be a baller. He is leaner and bigger at the same time. He was big and strong last year but had a soft college body, this year he looks hard.

Negatives:

Spencer Long looked really bad on a few plays where the defender got his hands into his chest.

Our Oline looked tentative and seemed to lack aggression on some of the zone running plays. (maybe this will work itself out as they gel). The defender was reacting to the snap and getting into their chest while they were taking a half second to figure out who to block. They weren't firing off the ball in sync in the running game.

Trent Murphy's spin move is a huge negative. Someone close to him should tell him to stop using it.

Perry Riley's coverage skills and instincts. He lacks the instinct to take that first step in the right direction that Compton and Foster have and always seems to be playing catch up.

Reserves in the secondary. There were more than a handful of plays where they looked completely lost.

Our D line didn't do much to alleviate any concerns about their ability to consistently stop the run and collapse the pocket.

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Positives:

week 1 is done

Negatives:

3 more to go

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[quote=Chico23231;1145520][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/08/12/jay-gruden-we-have-to-run-the-ball-better/]Jay Gruden: We have to run the ball better | ProFootballTalk[/url]

he saw what everbody else saw[/quote]

what everyone saw in the Atlanta game & the same thing everyone saw last year.

Can our guys just not block, find holes or could it be scheme?
Something needs to start clicking with this soon.

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[quote=mredskins;1145516]Lets remember this is Kurt's first full training camp where he is the legit starter. should make a huge difference.[/quote]

Yeah Kevin was pretty good last night

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I am not at all sold own Jones as The MAIN RB..anybody else have the same worries??

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Taped the game and just finished watching most of it.As everyone has said run blocking continues to be a problem,sucked last yr and continues to suck,is Joe Bugel still alive?{Cause we need something}
I think Jones will be ok but I'm not sold on any 2nd string rb's,but with that blocking it was hard to tell.I dont count any rb performance in 2nd half,dont mean shit then.I really wanted us to sign Arian Foster but too late now,we will see.
Cousins looked good,Mccoy looked good,especially on that pass to davis that he dropped right in his hands.What surprised me the most about that play was it looked like davis was shot out of a cannon,I didnt know he had that kind of speed left in him.
I was glad to see robinson for ATL have a good game{even though it was against us,preseason]He should hold a special place in skins fans hearts for the Thanksgiving game against Dallas.

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Toler, Philipps and Grant had decent games also. Cravens is going to be a star, really liked what I saw.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1145544]Toler, Philipps and Grant had decent games also. [B]Cravens is going to be a star[/B], really liked what I saw.[/quote]

Well of course, he's from the west coast.

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[quote=htownskinfan;1145543]Taped the game and just finished watching most of it.As everyone has said run blocking continues to be a problem,sucked last yr and continues to suck,is Joe Bugel still alive?{Cause we need something}
I think Jones will be ok but I'm not sold on any 2nd string rb's,but with that blocking it was hard to tell.[/quote]

I couldn't agree more.

They were all passive in the run game.

I went back and watched it again. Moses swallowed people up with his long arms in pass rush but he was terrible run blocking as well.

It always seems like the Dline are the aggressors on the running plays and our guys are sitting there waiting to engage. Go back and just watch the running plays, they aren't moving anyone.

I get zone plays are not always moving forward but we are always getting pushed back.

First, do you all agree that we look passive? Second, are they being coached this way? If so, why?

With our big guys firing into somebody, Jones should be able to fall forward for 4 yards. They aren't moving anyone.

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[quote=rocnrik;1145539]I am not at all sold on Jones as The MAIN RB..anybody else have the same worries??[/quote]

I agree, I am not sure who the top two RBs should be . Thompson can be # 3

Trade a DB (and a pick if you have to) to get a good one. The notion that they do not need a running game is ridiculous.

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How about we give our current RB's a chance before panicking.

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[quote=OmahaRedskins;1145536]Positives:

week 1 is done

Negatives:

3 more to go[/quote]

Ha, nice. No one is out for the season after pre season week 1. I agree, great week.

Man, if Junior didn't get hurt, with the way Preston is looking we would be beasting. Time to draft another rusher in the 1st few rounds next year. Find another Preston SM.

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I'm a FSU fan so I hope Thompson is our 3rd down back for the next 5 years or so.

I think once Marshall gets his feet wet in the NFL that he will push Jones or outright take the starting job from him. He got Gurley'd in college. He is like a young boxer. He just needs to get more rounds under his belt.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1145552]How about we give our current RB's a chance before panicking.[/quote]

This. Let's get our full blocking battery together on the field with our RB rotation before we freak out. If Lauvao can stay healthy, we will be a better running team than last year.

Keith Marshall looked like a rookie the other night...to no surprise. Let him learn the game...I bet he will improve as the preseason continues.

Let's all take a chill pill or a bong hit and relax