Breaking: Trent Williams Suspended 4 Games
 

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000732371/article/redskins-trent-williams-suspended-four-games]Redskins' Trent Williams suspended four games - NFL.com[/url]


Are you kidding me!!!???

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:doh:

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Ridiculous.

Selfish.

I mean, the team has done a pretty good job of fighting through a ton of injuries...which are a part of the game. This, however, is an unforced error that could prove to be devastating. How's Morgan Moses anyway? Are we now without our two starting tackles?

In my opinion there is no excuse for this...

Leader? Hmmmm....

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Well this is just effing fantastic smfh

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This is his second suspension. He was suspended as a rookie for violating the substance abuse policy in 2010.....

We shouldn't worry though. Ty Nsehke is more than capable.

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very disappointed in Trent, my fav player and our best fucking player cant lay off the weed for 4 months??? WTF man? TY is a good tackle so lets hope he can stay healthy or else we are fucked

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He will miss Vikings,GB, Cowboys, Cards. My guess is he couldn't lay off the weed like in the past.

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Guess he wasn't done being a knucklehead after all.


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@FieldYates

The 4-game suspension for Washington LT Trent Williams is a pricey one: he'll surrender $1,650,735.29 in base salary & per-game bonuses.[/B]



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Really disappointed in Trent on this one. I understand with the constant pain NFL players go through weed is a viable pain treatment option but since it's not legal there is no excuse. I also feel that weed is a better alternative then potentially getting addicted to pain pills but until that changes you have to be smart.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1154450]He will miss Vikings,GB, Cowboys, Cards. My guess is he couldn't lay off the weed like in the past.[/QUOTE]
Luckily Dallas and GB don't have much of a pass rush. But still

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1154454]Luckily Dallas and GB don't have much of a pass rush. But still[/quote]

Dallas D and GB defenses have been playing well nothing is a given. Demarcus Lawrence is playing very good.

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Great player but how many chances are they going to give a guy like him in order for him to blow it!?

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well . . . think positive . . . this will give him plenty of time to heal his sprained knee and therefore this should be the healthiest silver back we've seen for the season stretch run

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1154455]Dallas D and GB defenses have been playing well nothing is a given. Demarcus Lawrence is playing very good.[/QUOTE]
Yep I mean I think TY is a great backup for that span. We'll be ok. Kirk is a good QB and we have tons of weapons.

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Add left tackle to the list of players for the draft. If he gets on more then that could be it for a lot more than 4 games. He completely let the organization and his teammates down. So pathetic and selfish.

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Fuck

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1154458]Yep I mean I think TY is a great backup for that span. We'll be ok. Kirk is a good QB and we have tons of weapons.[/quote]

Concur.

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Mike jones saying he didn't even piss dirty, just missed the test. That even more ridiculous in my book.

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[QUOTE=REDSKINS4ever;1154448]This is his second suspension. He was suspended as a rookie for violating the substance abuse policy in 2010.....



We shouldn't worry though. Ty Nsehke is more than capable.[/QUOTE]


Shouldn't worry? One of the best LT's in the game and perhaps our best player is on the shelf and all is cool because we have Nsehke? Get the heck outta here.

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I know i will catch hell for this but..I would trade him. get as much as you can and let him go..what good is he to us for the next 4 games?? if we lose 3 of them we are done ..trade him in offseason ..he will do this again ...and again...i give anybody a free pass once but come on dude..for real?? He knew when he did it he was going to get caught and this would happen..what does that say about his respect for his team..it says I don't give a crap..yea he is good maybe the best on team but you can't have this crap! say we had won the last two games and things were looking great and to have this happen..and i don't want to hear about its the same as a injury..you don't hurt yourself on purpose..factor in the injury bug and he could come back get hurt and miss most of the rest of season. This may be the most upset i have been in a while over this team..I can take losing if the team is trying hard but this is a selfish letdown and makes me sick..

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Ugh let the overreacting begin. Hey I know, let's send a message and just cut him.

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@MarkBullockNFL
This news means #Redskins will be without Trent Williams against the #Vikings, #Packers, #Cowboys and #Cardinals.

No sweat guys we've got this covered, Ty Nsehke for the win. [emoji849]

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Wow, just wow!!!!! Why would anyone jeopardize their livelihood for pot!!!

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[quote=MTK;1154465]Ugh let the overreacting begin. Hey I know, let's send a message and just cut him.[/quote]

And what would be bad about a message like that going out to a guy who is now a repeat offender for the league's substance abuse policy? I realize he's a great player but honestly sometimes its more important about doing the right thing and sending the right message, mainly something like "The Washington Redskins do not condone using illegal drugs of any kind, and while we appreciate Trent's contributions to the team, this type of behavior cannot be tolerated or accepted. We wish Trent well in future endeavors and hope that he gets the help that he needs".

Or do we do the old Snyder / Vinny thing and say, "well, he's our best player, so we have to let him do whatever he wants and make sure he has a roster spot here while paying him handsomely".

I realize i am prone to over-reaction like suggesting we cut Hopkins, but IMO this is ridiculous. We have a moral responsibility as a team, and I thought part of Scott M's philosophy was to have "character guys". A repeat offender on the substance policy is not a "character guy". He's hurt the team with his retarded ass actions. We HAVE to just stop accepting shit like this and mentally saying "oh, we're the redskins, this is just the way it is".

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pathetic.

extremely disappointed in him.

I expected more from the highest paid o-lineman in the NFL

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Whatever the circumstamce is... he's not expendable lol. Theres no need to fly off the handle and cut one of the best LTs in the league. Maybe he'll get the message of losing over a MIL ... let him get that message. And personally no. TY doesnt make me feel "fine" about it not even close.

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I am fucking livid. I don't understand irresponsible behavior in any form, let alone from someone who is paid so much.

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[quote=Chico23231;1154462]Mike jones saying he didn't even piss dirty, just missed the test. That even more ridiculous in my book.[/quote]

So he just blew the test off? WTF!!!! That is just as if not dumber than testing dirty!!!

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SS84. SM is a repeat drunk and he got another shot because he is extremely good. That's life's reality and morality lesson. TW has been good to go for 5+ years. I have no idea what happened. Clearly it wasn't a good enough reason for an appeal to win, but lets not act like this guy was Fred Davis. He has laid his body on the line more times than you or I have for the Burgundy and gold and I believe earned a pass( no puffs though). It will come up at contract time and maybe he and the team move on then. But for now use the 4week + bye layoff to heal and come back ready to win.

Sent from my S6 Edge

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As for the on field impact, our depth is temporarily shot, for the next four games we are one injury away from starting Vinston Painter or shifting Scherff out of position. Nsekhe is a fine pass protector but he will give up more pressure than an all pro Williams, naturally. So McVay's reaction as a play caller will be matchup-based. Against Dallas he can probably call the offense as usual. Against Arizona and Minnesota we are probably going to limit ourselves to shorter drops, it will limit the impact DeSean Jackson can have for us.

We miss a ton in the run game. Trent is athletic enough to get out and lead block 15 yards downfield. Nsekhe just can't. We'll surely run right more often behind Scherff, which is a good way to live, but it's predictable.

It's a massive loss, don't kid yourself. Especially because of the small possibility that this gets Cousins injured on a blindside shot. Even if it doesn't, we will need the defense and special teams to step up. We need to generate turnovers, and we need to flip the field.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1154468]And what would be bad about a message like that going out to a guy who is now a repeat offender for the league's substance abuse policy? I realize he's a great player but honestly sometimes its more important about doing the right thing and sending the right message, mainly something like "The Washington Redskins do not condone using illegal drugs of any kind, and while we appreciate Trent's contributions to the team, this type of behavior cannot be tolerated or accepted. We wish Trent well in future endeavors and hope that he gets the help that he needs".

Or do we do the old Snyder / Vinny thing and say, "well, he's our best player, so we have to let him do whatever he wants and make sure he has a roster spot here while paying him handsomely".

I realize i am prone to over-reaction like suggesting we cut Hopkins, but IMO this is ridiculous. We have a moral responsibility as a team, and I thought part of Scott M's philosophy was to have "character guys". A repeat offender on the substance policy is not a "character guy". He's hurt the team with his retarded ass actions. We HAVE to just stop accepting shit like this and mentally saying "oh, we're the redskins, this is just the way it is".[/quote]

You're dumb. Please leave the site.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1154473]SS84. SM is a repeat drunk and he got another shot because he is extremely good. That's life's reality and morality lesson. TW has been good to go for 5+ years. I have no idea what happened. Clearly it wasn't a good enough reason for an appeal to win, but lets not act like this guy was Fred Davis. He has laid his body on the line more times than you or I have for the Burgundy and gold and I believe earned a pass( no puffs though). It will come up at contract time and maybe he and the team move on then. But for now use the 4week + bye layoff to heal and come back ready to win.

Sent from my S6 Edge[/quote]

I understand about SM and being a drunk. But what do you do if God forbid he has a moment (and sometimes recovering alcoholics momentarily fall), and he comes in stumbling drunk at meeting time. Do we just go "Oh, god bless his heart he's trying so hard", and make him sit in the back? Or do you send his ass home? And it sounds like this is SM's last chance, i would think if he crashes again and relapses completley, he's done in the NFL...

I would give TW a pass if this was his first offense. But it isn't. It probably won't be his last, but i hope it is. Regardless of if he's a good guy, or how great of a player he is (and he's great), what he has done or HASNT done (failing to go to the test), his mentality has put this struggling team in a mighty bad way. We don't need that kind of shit here. Someone else a couple of posts up sort of had my sentiments - regardless of what they did on the field, shit like this is inexcusable, especially when it's the second time. Learn his lesson? I don't think he did, sadly...

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[QUOTE=MTK;1154466]@MarkBullockNFL
This news means #Redskins will be without Trent Williams against the #Vikings, #Packers, #Cowboys and #Cardinals.

No sweat guys we've got this covered, Ty Nsehke for the win. [emoji849][/QUOTE]
Word is it will probably go down to 2 games but we'll see. Either way it sucks. Can we still win? Yes

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Trent Williams is a gud player.
He's also a pinhead.
Nice job, dipshit......

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Maybe someone else can confirm but I'm pretty sure a 2nd positive test would have gotten him bounced for more than just 4 games, so maybe that's the logic behind skipping it instead?

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That's some good ass weed, apparently it was worth 1.7 million dollars. Honestly I've been waiting for this day to come, surprised he made it this long. And missing the test altogether is basically just standing up and yelling I smoked weed. Missing the test is the ultimate smoking gun.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1154479]Maybe someone else can confirm but I'm pretty sure a 2nd positive test would have gotten him bounced for more than just 4 games, so maybe that's the logic behind skipping it instead?[/QUOTE]
Well there is no doubt he skipped on purpose so hopefully it will get reduced but I don't count on it especially since they are so tough on weed

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I'd reduce it to a 1 week suspension, he can't practice during the bye lol.

We aren't getting rid of Trent until the league kicks him out. The Skins don't have to pay him while he's out. Have you seen him play? Dude is pretty good. At least we know he'll be healthy in 5 weeks.

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[quote=Schneed10;1154475]You're dumb. Please leave the site.[/quote]

Are you for real?

What makes me dumb saying that we don't need to keep a guy who is a repeat substance abuse violator? You're going to say "Because he's such a great player, we can't replace him, blah blah blah". And I will agree with you on the great player part. What is so hard about obeying NFL policies? Hundreds of other players are "great players" without being suspended multiple times for the same violation..

Saying that it's okay to give him a pass because he's great is sending the wrong message, IMO. It is evident to me that looking at some posters here, they would sacrifice morals and decency to get a couple of more wins. But there are teams in the NFL that do not operate like that. Le Garette Blount basically walked out of a game in 2013 or 14 and the Steelers cut him. He was their starting running back. They did not follow your lead and say "Well, he's a great player, we knew he had to blow off some steam", or some BS like that.

I guess in the end, the "moral clauses" that some of these teams have resonate with me because I try and go about doing things the right way, and being a good citizen and all of that stuff, obeying the law, blah blah blah.

Insert comments about me now about how i'm off my medicine or other types of personal and racial crap like some of the other stuff i've had to deal with here. I don't want to leave the site but if thats what you guys want, so be it.

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How do players skip tests? It seems like franchises would have bounty hunters to find these dudes the day of the test if needed.