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MTK 11-13-2016 04:30 PM

Skins-Vikings post game
 
Kirk Cousins - bet on himself and he's winning

Preston Smith - nice to see you, where u been?

Hopkins - nice bounce back effort

V. Davis - the old guy still has it

Fat Rob - nothing flashy just gets it done

Love the throwbacks especially the helmets with the grey mask and without the stripes

skinsfaninok 11-13-2016 04:31 PM

Skins Viks Postgame
 
Huge win today, started off great and ended great.

GAME BALLS

1. Kirk - hot all game long. Made big time throws
2. OL, 1 sack allowed and made holes for Kelley
3. Crowder, Garcon, Davis.... We don't really need DJAX anymore and he knows it.
4. 2nd half defense
5. P Smith


Surprised Harris looked so good as well.

5-3-1 not bad

skinsfaninok 11-13-2016 04:45 PM

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[QUOTE=MTK;1155372]Kirk Cousins - bet on himself and he's winning

Preston Smith - nice to see you, where u been?

Hopkins - nice bounce back effort

V. Davis - the old guy still has it

Fat Rob - nothing flashy just gets it done

Love the throwbacks especially the helmets with the grey mask and without the stripes[/QUOTE]
I'd Like the throwbacks but we should have the same logo on the helmet that bothered my ocd lol

Chico23231 11-13-2016 04:48 PM

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Our second quarter debacle was solely based on getting pass happy...This has happened multiple times this season. When are we gonna learn when we are balance everything works better

CrustyRedskin 11-13-2016 04:50 PM

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Httr!

skinsfaninok 11-13-2016 05:08 PM

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1155376]Our second quarter debacle was solely based on getting pass happy...This has happened multiple times this season. When are we gonna learn when we are balance everything works better[/QUOTE]
Well next week we play arguably the worst defense we've seen (not counting cle) so let's hope we run it more and more

htownskinfan 11-13-2016 05:09 PM

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Great win!
Didnt get to see any of it,saw some highlights.Who was covering Diggs? Was he getting that open on Norman? And just looking at box score,who the hell is Maurice Lynell Harris?:confused?:I've never heard of this guy and he has 3 catches today,I guess thats bye bye for Grant:devil:

skinsfan69 11-13-2016 05:15 PM

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How about our new LT? He was pretty damn good today.

MTK 11-13-2016 05:17 PM

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[quote=htownskinfan;1155386]Great win!
Didnt get to see any of it,saw some highlights.Who was covering Diggs? Was he getting that open on Norman? And just looking at box score,who the hell is Maurice Lynell Harris?:confused?:I've never heard of this guy and he has 3 catches today,I guess thats bye bye for Grant:devil:[/quote]

Norman had a quiet game, they stayed away from him all day.

skinsfan69 11-13-2016 05:18 PM

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[quote=htownskinfan;1155386]Great win!
Didnt get to see any of it,saw some highlights.Who was covering Diggs? Was he getting that open on Norman? And just looking at box score,who the hell is Maurice Lynell Harris?:confused?:I've never heard of this guy and he has 3 catches today,I guess thats bye bye for Grant:devil:[/quote]

Fuller was on him most of the game and was getting toasted.

MTK 11-13-2016 05:19 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1155389]How about our new LT? He was pretty damn good today.[/quote]

Nsekhe was very solid.

skinsfan69 11-13-2016 05:20 PM

Re: Skins-Vikings post game
 
Gruden mentioned in his presser that the coaches were getting on Smith about his lack of production and he responded today.

sdskinsfan2001 11-13-2016 05:41 PM

Re: Skins-Vikings post game
 
[quote=MTK;1155372]Kirk Cousins - bet on himself and he's winning

Preston Smith - nice to see you, where u been?

Hopkins - nice bounce back effort

V. Davis - the old guy still has it

Fat Rob - nothing flashy just gets it done

Love the throwbacks especially the helmets with the grey mask and without the stripes[/quote]

I agree 100% with everything in this post. I'll just add Maurice Harris had a couple big time 3rd down conversion catches. Hell of a game by him. He is trying to bump Ross and Grant off the team. I was very impressed.

sdskinsfan2001 11-13-2016 05:45 PM

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We have a very very good offensive line. Williams is elite, but Ty did a hell of a job coming off the bench this game. I love it. I think Redskins, I think The Posse and The Hogs. Both units are awesome this year for us.

Garcon is my favorite Redskins player. I really hope we keep him.

Irrefutable 11-13-2016 05:57 PM

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[quote=MTK;1155372]

Preston Smith - nice to see you, where u been?


[/quote]

Preston has been playing against starters all year. Today's big plays were against 2nd and 3rd string tackles.

skinsfaninok 11-13-2016 06:00 PM

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Again TY is really good, our whole OL is so well coached

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FlyerSkin 11-13-2016 06:05 PM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1155399]We have a very very good offensive line. Williams is elite, but Ty did a hell of a job coming off the bench this game. I love it. I think Redskins, I think The Posse and The Hogs. Both units are awesome this year for us.

Garcon is my favorite Redskins player. I really hope we keep him.[/quote]

I was all for just letting Djax and him go, but this guy is a baller and I want him to stay. If Harris is allowed to enter the fray so to stay and get more looks/more playing time we will we set with getting one more WR next draft or sign a great UFA. I keep pulling for Ross to take the next step, but I think he is at his ceiling.

Chico23231 11-13-2016 06:12 PM

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Pro football focus had Nsekhe the highest rated skins offensive player. They said he allowed only 1 hurry at pass protect and put on a strong performance run blocking.

sdskinsfan2001 11-13-2016 06:13 PM

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[quote=FlyerSkin;1155404]I was all for just letting Djax and him go, but this guy is a baller and I want him to stay. If Harris is allowed to enter the fray so to stay and get more looks/more playing time we will we set with getting one more WR next draft or sign a great UFA. I keep pulling for Ross to take the next step, but I think he is at his ceiling.[/quote]

I don't think we keep both, maybe not either. Having Jackson is sexy, but as they get older, Garcon is more likely to be able to produce. And everything I've read about him says awesome guy, and his teammates love him. That's a 'Skin!!

sdskinsfan2001 11-13-2016 06:17 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1155405]Pro football focus had Nsekhe the highest rated skins offensive player. They said he allowed only 1 hurry at pass protect and put on a strong performance run blocking.[/quote]

How long is he under contract for? He is definitely 1 of the 32 best LT's in the league. For selfish reasons I hope he's stuck with us, for unselfish reasons I want him to be able to go somewhere and get paid. We have 2 good starting tackles, so he won't be a starter here, but there are places he would be, 1 of those places being Minnesota.

Irrefutable 11-13-2016 06:34 PM

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Ty is a restricted Free Agent in 2017......I think the Redskins can match any offer he gets..... he was a bargain @ $600 K, next year $$$

Giantone 11-13-2016 06:58 PM

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Nice win,you just take it one game at a time.

skinsfaninok 11-13-2016 08:03 PM

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[quote=Giantone;1155413]Nice win,you just take it one game at a time.[/quote]

looks like the NFCE will have 3 teams in

SFREDSKIN 11-13-2016 08:20 PM

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Positives:

Preston Smith
Vernon Davis
Rob Kelley
Crowder
Maurice Harris (had some very nice tightrope key catches)
Hopkins

McC didn't sign Hillman for a reason, he sucks!!

skinsfaninok 11-13-2016 08:22 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1155428]Positives:

Preston Smith
Vernon Davis
Rob Kelley
Crowder
Maurice Harris (had some very nice tightrope key catches)
Hopkins[/quote]

Kirk, OLINE

SFREDSKIN 11-13-2016 08:24 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1155429]Kirk, OLINE[/quote]

Very true.

skinsfaninok 11-13-2016 08:29 PM

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on that VD TD he had Reed open too lol

DYoungJelly 11-13-2016 09:56 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1155405]Pro football focus had Nsekhe the highest rated skins offensive player. They said he allowed only 1 hurry at pass protect and put on a strong performance run blocking.[/quote]

I know you're a subscriber and mean no disrespect.

How can they grade every player on every play so quickly and be accurate?

skinsfaninok 11-13-2016 11:26 PM

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[QUOTE=DYoungJelly;1155435]I know you're a subscriber and mean no disrespect.

How can they grade every player on every play so quickly and be accurate?[/QUOTE]
I always wondered that also, plus who exactly runs that site? Like former players or what?

Bucket 11-13-2016 11:28 PM

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1155435]I know you're a subscriber and mean no disrespect.

How can they grade every player on every play so quickly and be accurate?[/quote]

They don't. It's not lol

Chief X_Phackter 11-14-2016 02:37 AM

Re: Skins-Vikings post game
 
[quote=Chico23231;1155376]Our second quarter debacle was solely based on getting pass happy...This has happened multiple times this season. When are we gonna learn when we are balance everything works better[/quote]

It didn't work out as expected, but I liked it. I liked the fact that they were up 14 and tried to go for the throat. If they complete a couple of those passes and drive down the field and go up 21, there's no "debacle" and they may run away with it...I hope we see more of that actually.

Chief X_Phackter 11-14-2016 02:42 AM

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I think we can finally put to bed the idea that JB can't make second half adjustments. Without looking back, this is at least the third, maybe fourth game this season that the D has pretty much shut down the opponent in the second half.

Now if the offense would score a higher percentage of TDs in the red zone, I might have some nails left...

FrenchSkin 11-14-2016 06:16 AM

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Great win! HTTR !

1) Great job O-line, Bill Callahan is J*sus MOTHERFUCKING Chri%t!

2) Fat Rob is tough as hell, we can become a really good balanced offense! How many yards did Kelley got after initial contact ?!

3) Our D let us down in the 2nd quarter... But played an outstanding game otherwise. I feel like they've developed the ability to deliver at crucial moments (4th down and inches stop, sacks, key turnovers etc...). I know people say we cannot count on turnovers and big defensive plays and we have to be able to consistently stop the run... But they really seem to consistently be able to make [B]key plays when needed[/B] even in games where they aren't being consistent.

4) Only real negative for me still is [B]redzone offense[/B]... Again, we could have killed this game early.

J. Falcon 11-14-2016 07:36 AM

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Garzon had a hell of a great game. That guy was making catches all over the field.

FrenchSkin 11-14-2016 08:09 AM

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[quote=J. Falcon;1155450]Garzon had a hell of a great game. That guy was making catches all over the field.[/quote]

Yop, I think I heard the announcer call him "M.Reliable" !

Chico23231 11-14-2016 08:53 AM

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1155447]It didn't work out as expected, but I liked it. I liked the fact that they were up 14 and tried to go for the throat. If they complete a couple of those passes and drive down the field and go up 21, there's no "debacle" and they may run away with it...I hope we see more of that actually.[/quote]

Well that approach has not worked this year. The other game escapes me right now but we did the exact samething (big first quarter, terrible second quarter). As an offense, you have to see adjustments...the Vikings adjusted after the first 2 drives. Also, Im not advocating for joe gibbs conservative, but you go up 2 scores...you start grinding and controlling that line of scrimmage and keep that defense on the sideline. Because when you start aggressively throwing...man, the turnover probability goes way up and you stop the clock. Folks I like Cousins...he is not Aaron Rogers, tom Brady, etc.

The Vikings did the predictable...they went hurry up and more aggressive playcalling. So the defense feels more pressure, get worn out, and gives up scores.

That second quarter was a momentum killer and effective allowed the Vikings to win the first half of that game.

Fat Rob showed his worth in the second half...and first quarter. Don't get away from running the ball, we are a much much better team and offense.

Chico23231 11-14-2016 09:11 AM

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1155449]Great win! HTTR !

1) Great job O-line, Bill Callahan is J*sus MOTHERFUCKING Chri%t!

2) Fat Rob is tough as hell, we can become a really good balanced offense! [B]How many yards did Kelley got after initial contact ?![/B]
3) Our D let us down in the 2nd quarter... But played an outstanding game otherwise. I feel like they've developed the ability to deliver at crucial moments (4th down and inches stop, sacks, key turnovers etc...). I know people say we cannot count on turnovers and big defensive plays and we have to be able to consistently stop the run... But they really seem to consistently be able to make [B]key plays when needed[/B] even in games where they aren't being consistent.

4) Only real negative for me still is [B]redzone offense[/B]... Again, we could have killed this game early.[/quote]


Per Profootball Focus yesterday:


"Kelley added seven missed tackles and 73 yards after contact"

basically he needs more work...73 yard after contact has to be close to the top this week for a RB

KI Skins Fan 11-14-2016 09:15 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1155455]Per Profootball Focus yesterday:


"Kelley added seven missed tackles and 73 yards after contact"

basically he needs more work...73 yard after contact has to be close to the top this week for a RB[/quote]

He did a good job. Better run blocking would be nice so he could rip off bigger chunks.

FrenchSkin 11-14-2016 09:18 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1155453]Well that approach has not worked this year. The other game escapes me right now but we did the exact samething (big first quarter, terrible second quarter). As an offense, you have to see adjustments...the Vikings adjusted after the first 2 drives. Also, Im not advocating for joe gibbs conservative, but you go up 2 scores...you start grinding and controlling that line of scrimmage and keep that defense on the sideline. Because when you start aggressively throwing...man, the turnover probability goes way up and you stop the clock. Folks I like Cousins...he is not Aaron Rogers, tom Brady, etc.

The Vikings did the predictable...they went hurry up and more aggressive playcalling. So the defense feels more pressure, get worn out, and gives up scores.

[B]That second quarter was a momentum killer and effective allowed the Vikings to win the first half of that game. [/B]

Fat Rob showed his worth in the second half...and first quarter. Don't get away from running the ball, we are a much much better team and offense.[/quote]

I feel like we forget about that fumble... That was also a killer in the first half. It's not all on the D. They only gave up 2 drives.

Chico23231 11-14-2016 09:18 AM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1155457]He did a good job. Better run blocking would be nice so he could rip off bigger chunks.[/quote]

That Minnesota front seven is easily top 10 in the league. Joseph, Floyd and Griffen are all legit probowl type players. I think our line and rb did great...we needed to pound in the second quarter and in the red zone.


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