Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry
 

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Sad day....


LOL! See ya Bitch! Bad hire from the start.

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All I gotta say is wow. I think that shows his frustration with how everything went down.

Saw the same frustration with Matt Jones, a couple really bad fumbles and that was it. Inactive.

Jay comes off good here, not willing to accept poor performance. Results oriented type decision.

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I like this, rather than just canning the D.C. clean out the entire house. Let the new D.C. bring in his guys.

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This just made my day.

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Love it. Start from scratch and get some fresh voices in here.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1161688]All I gotta say is wow. I think that shows his frustration with how everything went down.



Saw the same frustration with Matt Jones, a couple really bad fumbles and that was it. Inactive.



Jay comes off good here, not willing to accept poor performance. Results oriented type decision.[/QUOTE]



Right now someone just has to explain how the fucking game clock works, and he can go do his thing. As hard of a time as I am having getting Kirks int out of my head - his not using a timeout at the half took three points off the board (quite possibly). That would have changed everything. We would have been driving for a fg at the end and Kirk would not have pressed. Oh well.

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Good job Jay!!!

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Gus Bradley, come on down!!

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Official release from the team:

[QUOTE]LOUDOUN COUNTY, Va. – The Washington Redskins announced today that the following assistant coaches will not be retained:

Robb Akey
Joe Barry
Mike Clark
Perry Fewell[/QUOTE]

[url=http://www.redskins.com/news/article-1/Redskins-Will-Not-Retain-Four-Assistant-Coaches/c32d14ae-f3ca-4e3c-b39b-91455f98c405]Redskins Will Not Retain Four Assistant Coaches[/url]

Note, they make no mention of firing Greg Manusky who coached the OLBs and Kirk Olivadotti who coached the ILBs.

Note, Manusky was the DC under Singletary in San Fran during McCloughan's time there.

Olivadotti has long been thought of highly around Redskins Park.

Let's see what happens.

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[quote=Chico23231;1161688]All I gotta say is wow. I think that shows his frustration with how everything went down.

Saw the same frustration with Matt Jones, a couple really bad fumbles and that was it. Inactive.

Jay comes off good here, not willing to accept poor performance. Results oriented type decision.[/quote]

Agree, good post

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Look at the team's page listing the coaches. Akey, Barry, Clark and Fewell have all been removed. Manusky and Olivadotti remain listed.

[url=http://www.redskins.com/team/coaches.html]Redskins.com | Coaches[/url]

So either they are candidates to ascend to DC, or Gruden is currently signaling he thinks highly enough to retain them, or the DC candidate Gruden has in mind has signaled that he likes those two and would keep them.

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Barry shouldn't have been hired in the first place. It was a country club hire. He never had the talent to make it work anyway. But his inability to be aggressive and stay passive with below average talent was what did it for me. If you have scrubs you have to be able to scheme things up and he seemed to never be able to do that. The 3rd and longs that were always converted also were probably his downfall.

I hope Gruden hires the best person that's out there, and not one of his Tampa or Cincy buddies.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1161703]Barry shouldn't have been hired in the first place. It was a country club hire. He never had the talent to make it work anyway. But his inability to be aggressive and stay passive with below average talent was what did it for me. If you have scrubs you have to be able to scheme things up and he seemed to never be able to do that. The 3rd and longs that were always converted also were probably his downfall.

I hope Gruden hires the best person that's out there, and not one of his Tampa or Cincy buddies.[/quote]

I agree, there's this goofy tendency in the NFL to hire people you're familiar with. Why wouldn't you open it up to everybody and just objectively look at their experience, results, and interviews. If you have personal experience with them that can serve as a tiebreaker, fine. But I'm a hiring manager, and while it's nowhere near the same as hiring coaches, I'd be stupid to restrict myself to hiring people who I either worked with previously or went to school with.

Hopefully Gruden keeps his mind open. There are good candidates out there.

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I just have this annoying feeling Manusky is going to get the job, based on the tea leaves you can kind of read from my links above. Not sure he'd have the best resume if you could get an application from Gus Bradley, Paul Guenther, Wade Phillips and others who may be available.

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love the news today about barry and okey,love to interview gus bradley and paul gunther , love to have both

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A live look at Gruden's meeting this morning with the defensive staff:



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All of these clowns should have been fired. They deserve it.

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If things fall correctly, we may get wade phillips. I'm pretty sure that's what most of us wanted 3 years ago...

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This makes me want to pee my pants! The tequila celebration will be strong in the Metal house tonight!

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More from the team:

[QUOTE]Outside linebackers coach Greg Manusky, inside linebackers coach Kirk Olivadotti, assistant defensive backs coach Aubrey Pleasant and defensive quality control coach Chad Grimm remain on staff as well.[/QUOTE]

[url=http://www.redskins.com/news/article-1/Redskins-Have-Young-Core-On-Defense-Theyll-Build-Around/b83573c5-f953-4973-b800-107ae430f2eb]Redskins Have Young Core On Defense They'll Build Around[/url]

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First, I would like to say that I feel like a kid on Christmas morning that Barry has been canned! Wouldn't mind seeing Wade Phillips or maybe even Gus Bradley.

Second, This is my first post on this site, I have spent some time with Extreme Skins but grew tired of that site. Did a little looking around and like the feel of this one. Hope to have some good interactions on here.....also I BS around on twitter with fellow Skins fans as well, follow me @JRouse84

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Great news. My #1 off season wish just came true.
I was extremely unhappy from the day Joe Barry was hired. Never liked the guy.

Just like the Scott McCloughan hire, we need an accomplished and experienced Defensive Coordinator. I do not want a young guy that does not have a track record of winning in the NFL. Give me an old fat guy like Wade Phillips that has a history of doing a good job. Perfect candidate.
I would not be sad if McVay is replaced with someone more experience and a bigger track record of winning. One that commits to running the ball and does not get scored and abandon run when behind. An OC that will run the ball to put the game away when ahead.

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[quote=NCSUredskin;1161714]First, I would like to say that I feel like a kid on Christmas morning that Barry has been canned! Wouldn't mind seeing Wade Phillips or maybe even Gus Bradley.

Second, This is my first post on this site, I have spent some time with Extreme Skins but grew tired of that site. Did a little looking around and like the feel of this one. Hope to have some good interactions on here.....also I BS around on twitter with fellow Skins fans as well, follow me @JRouse84[/quote]

Welcome man you'll love it here. We're a pretty knowledgeable group.

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[QUOTE=NCSUredskin;1161714]First, I would like to say that I feel like a kid on Christmas morning that Barry has been canned! Wouldn't mind seeing Wade Phillips or maybe even Gus Bradley.



Second, This is my first post on this site, I have spent some time with Extreme Skins but grew tired of that site. Did a little looking around and like the feel of this one. Hope to have some good interactions on here.....also I BS around on twitter with fellow Skins fans as well, follow me @JRouse84[/QUOTE]



You made a great choice coming to this site. Welcome!

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[quote=NCSUredskin;1161714]First, I would like to say that I feel like a kid on Christmas morning that Barry has been canned! Wouldn't mind seeing Wade Phillips or maybe even Gus Bradley.

Second, This is my first post on this site, I have spent some time with Extreme Skins but grew tired of that site. Did a little looking around and like the feel of this one. Hope to have some good interactions on here.....also I BS around on twitter with fellow Skins fans as well, follow me @JRouse84[/quote]

Welcome! Looking at your twitter, looks like we live pretty close to each other. G'vegas in the house!

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[quote=NC_Skins;1161721]Welcome! Looking at your twitter, looks like we live pretty close to each other. G'vegas in the house![/quote]

Yep! Where are you at? I live off Frog Level....

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Also, trying to figure out how to change my avatar.....any help would be nice, Thanks!

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Great news. An article I just read reminded me of this fact.

"During his two years with the Detroit Lions, including an 0-16 season, the Lions’ defense ranked among the worst in the league."

I sure hope Gruden learned his lesson about hiring cronies. If it walks like a duck.

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[quote=rickmmrr;1161728]Great news. An article I just read reminded me of this fact.

"During his two years with the Detroit Lions, including an 0-16 season, the Lions’ defense ranked among the worst in the league."

I sure hope Gruden learned his lesson about hiring cronies. If it walks like a duck.[/quote]

I thought this was another bad Bruce Allen hire. Another Bad Bruce Allen Creation....

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[QUOTE=NCSUredskin;1161714]First, I would like to say that I feel like a kid on Christmas morning that Barry has been canned! Wouldn't mind seeing Wade Phillips or maybe even Gus Bradley.



Second, This is my first post on this site, I have spent some time with Extreme Skins but grew tired of that site. Did a little looking around and like the feel of this one. Hope to have some good interactions on here.....also I BS around on twitter with fellow Skins fans as well, follow me @JRouse84[/QUOTE]



Welcome

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[quote=NCSUredskin;1161727]Also, trying to figure out how to change my avatar.....any help would be nice, Thanks![/quote]

Click on "User CP", just above the "Donation Goal" box. On the left side of your screen there should be a box with your settings including "Edit Avatar"

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[quote=SirLK26;1161731]Click on "User CP", just above the "Donation Goal" box. On the left side of your screen there should be a box with your settings including "Edit Avatar"[/quote]

Got it! Thanks!

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[quote=NCSUredskin;1161734]Got it! Thanks![/quote]

Welcome aboard! Love the avatar.

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[quote=mooby;1161735]Welcome aboard! Love the avatar.[/quote]

LOL yeah you too....was going back and forth....Have been very lucky to have met both my favorite all time Redskins, I have a Sean Taylor signed jersey in my house and a helmet signed by Riggo here in my office at work!

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so what about Rex Ryan as a DC? he is not going to get looked at as a HC anytime soon, but was a great 3-4 DC . . . thoughts? I'd be game myself

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[quote=NCSUredskin;1161737]LOL yeah you too....was going back and forth....Have been very lucky to have met both my favorite all time Redskins, I have a Sean Taylor signed jersey in my house and a helmet signed by Riggo here in my office at work![/quote]

Nice. I got lucky enough to stand in his autograph line during training camp in 2005. Didn't get to talk on a personal level but I always looked up to him. He was coming into his own in 2007 and it was clear his best days were in front of him. He was just taken too soon. I miss him every time I see one of his crap replacements miss a tackle or give up a big play.

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[quote=SkinsGuru;1161739]so what about Rex Ryan as a DC? he is not going to get looked at as a HC anytime soon, but was a great 3-4 DC . . . thoughts? I'd be game myself[/quote]

I wouldn't mind but the theme with our coaches is "Tampa North" which basically means Jay likes hiring guys he or our front office have worked with before, typically from TB. If he breaks the mold and hires a guy he's not familiar with, like Wade Phillips/etc. that would be great but I'm not holding my breath. I really don't want Greg Manusky though, so if we end up with him I won't be too happy. He needs a coordinator with a proven track record, or a position coach that learned under the master.

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[QUOTE=NCSUredskin;1161714]First, I would like to say that I feel like a kid on Christmas morning that Barry has been canned! Wouldn't mind seeing Wade Phillips or maybe even Gus Bradley.



Second, This is my first post on this site, I have spent some time with Extreme Skins but grew tired of that site. Did a little looking around and like the feel of this one. Hope to have some good interactions on here.....also I BS around on twitter with fellow Skins fans as well, follow me @JRouse84[/QUOTE]



Such welcome news. I think they knew the fan base needed some hope quickly after that ending.
Welcome to the WP!