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skinsfaninok 01-17-2018 11:15 AM

The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
You guys wanted a new thread , well I figured why not?

[url=http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/jets-fans-reveal-top-free-agent-priority-sign-kirk-cousins-article-1.3759591]Jets fans reveal top free-agent priority — sign Kirk Cousins - NY Daily News[/url]


[url]https://www.newsday.com/sports/football/jets/jets-kirk-cousins-1.16127010[/url]

Looks like the J-E-T-S fans are ALL IN on Kirk and are going to make him their top target along with Leveon Bell.. Man that would be something huh?

Think it happens?

Stay tuned for the next episode of Drama in DC

diehardskin2982 01-17-2018 11:34 AM

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
The interesting thing is that teams this year are outwardly showing their desire for free agents, more than I have seen before. This is tampering, the Redskins need to trade Cousins, the well is poisoned.

Irrefutable 01-17-2018 12:05 PM

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
[quote=diehardskin2982;1185911]The interesting thing is that teams this year are outwardly showing their desire for free agents, more than I have seen before. This is tampering, the Redskins need to trade Cousins, the well is poisoned.[/quote]

How do you trade a FREE AGENT ?

mooby 01-17-2018 12:15 PM

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
I'm rooting for him to find a team that wants him as much as he wants it. Meanwhile I look forward to building up the rest of the roster to the point where we can become the 4th or 5th team to ever win a Super Bowl despite average qb play.

MTK 01-17-2018 12:21 PM

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
[QUOTE=mooby;1185913]I'm rooting for him to find a team that wants him as much as he wants it. Meanwhile I look forward to building up the rest of the roster to the point where we can become the 4th or 5th team to ever win a Super Bowl despite average qb play.[/QUOTE]


Some will try to tell you he’s average...

Can’t wait to see what average truly looks like again, I miss the Jason Campbell era!

Defensewins 01-17-2018 01:33 PM

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
[quote=Irrefutable;1185912]How do you trade a FREE AGENT ?[/quote]

Couldn't have said it better myself. Ha!
There are a ton of QB starved teams and Cousins is gong to reap the rewards for this type of market. Should be interesting to watch. We have no leverage to try anything other than sign him.

Schneed10 01-17-2018 01:53 PM

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
I can't wait to have a [B]Final (Final REVISED) FINAL[/B] thread.

skinsfaninok 01-17-2018 02:06 PM

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
[quote=Schneed10;1185918]I can't wait to have a [B]Final (Final REVISED) FINAL[/B] thread.[/quote]

LMAO so basically in January of 2019? or 20? Hell who knows

skinsfaninok 01-17-2018 02:11 PM

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
Honestly If I'm Kirk, I stay in DC. The offense is set up perfect for him to succeed, very good OL, (Great LT) pass heavy scheme, and a Defense that SHOULD be even better next yr. Give him a couple WR's in the O/S and he'll be fine, of course a starting RB1 too.


JETS?

Anderson and Kearse surprised this yr as a good duo but now teams will know about Robby and key on him.

Their OL is ok nothing great, and they have old RB's

NY MEDIA ain't DC media, and he sucks ass at the meadowlands. I would pass on that.


DENVER:

Good WR's and a good RB, Shaky OL.

Damn good D but you are playing in a cold/ windy stadium at a high altitude.

Basically if KC wants to leave he will, so at the end of the day we will see what Kirk has really wanted all along.

irish 01-17-2018 02:25 PM

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
[quote=diehardskin2982;1185911]The interesting thing is that teams this year are outwardly showing their desire for free agents, more than I have seen before. This is tampering, the Redskins need to trade Cousins, the well is poisoned.[/quote]

Expressing an interest in a player isn't tampering.

skinsfaninok 01-17-2018 02:31 PM

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
[quote=irish;1185923]Expressing an interest in a player isn't tampering.[/quote]

Tampering is if they called his agent and set up a meeting or Kirk himself.

mooby 01-17-2018 02:33 PM

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1185920]Honestly If I'm Kirk, I stay in DC. The offense is set up perfect for him to succeed, very good OL, (Great LT) pass heavy scheme, and a Defense that SHOULD be even better next yr. Give him a couple WR's in the O/S and he'll be fine, of course a starting RB1 too.


JETS?

Anderson and Kearse surprised this yr as a good duo but now teams will know about Robby and key on him.

Their OL is ok nothing great, and they have old RB's

NY MEDIA ain't DC media, and he sucks ass at the meadowlands. I would pass on that.


DENVER:

Good WR's and a good RB, Shaky OL.

Damn good D but you are playing in a cold/ windy stadium at a high altitude.

[B]Basically if KC wants to leave he will[/B], so at the end of the day we will see what Kirk has really wanted all along.[/quote]

This. Maybe he'll finally find a fanbase that will embrace him once they realize how rare having a good qb actually is.

mredskins 01-17-2018 02:59 PM

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
[quote=Schneed10;1185918]I can't wait to have a [B]Final (Final REVISED) FINAL[/B] thread.[/quote]

That is literally ever excel workbook at my job, ha!

irish 01-17-2018 03:23 PM

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1185924]Tampering is if they called his agent and set up a meeting or Kirk himself.[/quote]

Yes, not just saying "we'd like Kirk to be our QB" to a reporter.

irish 01-17-2018 03:26 PM

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
[quote=mooby;1185925]This. Maybe he'll finally find a fanbase that will embrace him once they realize how rare having a good qb actually is.[/quote]

So if KC signs with another team then he never really wanted to stay? I don't buy that at all. He will go where he gets the best deal, who wouldn't?

mooby 01-17-2018 03:46 PM

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
[quote=irish;1185928]So if KC signs with another team then he never really wanted to stay? I don't buy that at all. He will go where he gets the best deal, who wouldn't?[/quote]

I didn't say that, only thing Kirk signing with another team means is that he wants to be with that team.

HailGreen28 01-17-2018 04:03 PM

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
[quote=mooby;1185929]I didn't say that, only thing Kirk signing with another team means is that he wants to be with that team.[/quote]

Snyder and Allen could have had Kirk signed for a few years on a very reasonable contract, if they had committed to him a couple years ago. Can't blame Kirk for going to some team that wants him.

irish 01-17-2018 04:11 PM

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
[quote=mooby;1185929]I didn't say that, only thing Kirk signing with another team means is that he wants to be with that team.[/quote]

Of course it does. Him signing means he want to be with that team and they want him. I'd be shocked if him and his agent haven't already made a list of teams he wont go to.

skinsfaninok 01-17-2018 04:11 PM

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
If Dan and BA screw this up, MAN they will definitely lose fans for a while.

Imagine Kirk leaving for nothing and having to start Colt week 1, would anyone on here even give a shit about the game ?

Schneed10 01-17-2018 04:15 PM

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1185934]If Dan and BA screw this up, MAN they will definitely lose fans for a while.

Imagine Kirk leaving for nothing and having to start Colt week 1, would anyone on here even give a shit about the game ?[/quote]

Yeah. And you will too.

skinsfaninok 01-17-2018 04:33 PM

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
[quote=Schneed10;1185935]Yeah. And you will too.[/quote]

Unfortunately

skinsfan69 01-17-2018 07:33 PM

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
Right now everything is just speculation. All we know is Cousins wants free agency so he can have his ego stroked.

Giantone 01-17-2018 08:31 PM

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
Ok , this is an honest question here . Cousins leaves so what would you give the NYG for the #2 pick in the draft so you could get one of the top QB picks?

Giantone 01-17-2018 08:32 PM

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1185939]Right now everything is just speculation. All we know is Cousins wants free agency so he can have his ego stroked.[/quote]

He has earned it.

WillH 01-17-2018 08:46 PM

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
[QUOTE=Giantone;1185942]Ok , this is an honest question here . Cousins leaves so what would you give the NYG for the #2 pick in the draft so you could get one of the top QB picks?[/QUOTE]Hmmmm.... this is of course a sore subject, but I guess...

This year's 1st
Jordan Reed
Sua Cravens
Stacy Mcgee

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MTK 01-17-2018 08:51 PM

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
[QUOTE=Giantone;1185942]Ok , this is an honest question here . Cousins leaves so what would you give the NYG for the #2 pick in the draft so you could get one of the top QB picks?[/QUOTE]


Ham sandwich with pickles

Irrefutable 01-17-2018 09:11 PM

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
[quote=MTK;1185945]Ham sandwich with pickles[/quote]

That is to much, trading up is a foolish move.

Giantone 01-17-2018 09:20 PM

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
So am I to assume you don't want one of the top QB prospects in the draft ?

Schneed10 01-17-2018 09:20 PM

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
[quote=Giantone;1185942]Ok , this is an honest question here . Cousins leaves so what would you give the NYG for the #2 pick in the draft so you could get one of the top QB picks?[/quote]

I wouldn't go up to two. Far too expensive. I'd consider sliding up a couple spots for Allen personally, but not to two.

KI Skins Fan 01-17-2018 09:28 PM

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1185939]Right now everything is just speculation. All we know is Cousins wants free agency so he can have his ego stroked.[/quote]

It's business, not ego. He's free to seek his best deal, so I assume he will.

KI Skins Fan 01-17-2018 09:40 PM

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
[quote=Giantone;1185942]Ok , this is an honest question here . Cousins leaves so what would you give the NYG for the #2 pick in the draft so you could get one of the top QB picks?[/quote]

I don't see a potential franchise QB in this year's class, so I wouldn't move up for a QB. If I were drafting for the Giants, I would definitely try to get a great deal in exchange for the second pick in the draft.

Irrefutable 01-17-2018 09:58 PM

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
[quote=Giantone;1185947]So am I to assume you don't want one of the top QB prospects in the draft ?[/quote]

Brady, Rodgers,Rothelisberger, Brees, Cousins were not top 15 picks. And how did the Redskins do last time they traded up for the #2 pick ?

mooby 01-18-2018 12:45 AM

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
[quote=Giantone;1185942]Ok , this is an honest question here . Cousins leaves so what would you give the NYG for the #2 pick in the draft so you could get one of the top QB picks?[/quote]

10 first round picks, plus Kerrigan, T.Will, and the Scheriff.

sdskinsfan2001 01-18-2018 12:54 AM

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
Last thread got closed, but I'm adamant about this, Trent Williams is the best player on this team and its not even close. He's a top 10-20 player in the NFL. He is an absolute beast.

Giantone 01-18-2018 05:11 AM

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
[quote=Irrefutable;1185951]Brady, Rodgers,Rothelisberger, Brees, Cousins were not top 15 picks. And how did the Redskins do last time they traded up for the #2 pick ?[/quote]

Brady went in round 6,Roethlisbeger was 11th pick over all in 2004,Arron Rodgers was the 24th pick in 2005 (Jason Campbell Redskins 25th that year) and Drew Brees was the 1st pick by the Chargers..........in the second round in 2001.


I agree about this years draft class .I believe the Giants should trade the pick for multiple picks.They have so many problems and I still believe their young QB Webb is pretty good.I was just wondering what a #2 pick would bring if offered out there. The Giants would never deal inside the NFC East with something like that .

HailGreen28 01-18-2018 05:37 AM

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1185955]Last thread got closed, but I'm adamant about this, Trent Williams is the best player on this team and its not even close. He's a top 10-20 player in the NFL. He is an absolute beast.[/quote]

Maybe, but Kirk plays the most important position. That's why QBs get top dollar.

Brody81 01-18-2018 06:46 AM

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
[QUOTE=MTK;1185914]Some will try to tell you he’s average...

Can’t wait to see what average truly looks like again, I miss the Jason Campbell era![/QUOTE]



It truly boggles my mind some people will be happy when Kirk leaves. I really believe those people are still so upset Kirk turned out to be the 1st round pick not RG3 they can’t see the forest through the trees.


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Brody81 01-18-2018 06:51 AM

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1185934]If Dan and BA screw this up, MAN they will definitely lose fans for a while.



Imagine Kirk leaving for nothing and having to start Colt week 1, would anyone on here even give a shit about the game ?[/QUOTE]



We would know week 1 the season was over. Maybe we would go 0-16 and have the first pick to draft a QB, but we all know Bruce and Dan would screw that up.


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irish 01-18-2018 06:55 AM

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1185934]If Dan and BA screw this up, MAN they will definitely lose fans for a while.

Imagine Kirk leaving for nothing and having to start Colt week 1, would anyone on here even give a shit about the game ?[/quote]

While the FO is F-ed up they aren't that stupid. They know there is no way the fan base will accept Colt as the starter. This team is hemorrhaging fans and a move like this will increase the bleeding.

Giantone 01-18-2018 08:12 AM

Re: The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1185950]I don't see a potential franchise QB in this year's class, so I wouldn't move up for a QB. If I were drafting for the Giants, I would definitely try to get a great deal in exchange for the second pick in the draft.[/quote]
I agree plus there is this............


Since 1999 only two quarterbacks drafted top 10 overall have won a super bowl.

The Manning brothers.


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