Redskins WR 2018- Do we have the talent already on the roster?
 

What do you think about our current WR group? I know many of us want to say automatically that an upgrade is needed, the question is who? What is that missing ingredient?

IMO: We are missing a speed guy, but I don't think the group needs a complete overhaul or big money spent. I would like to see the guy's here get development and playing time. I also think KC style of play hurt the group

Current Roster:

Jamison Crowder- The ideal slot receiver, he had injury issues the majority of this season. I also think he was game planned for much more this season.

Josh Doctson- I think we put him in the #1 spot, a little too soon because of the demise of Pryor. He is talented, has an excellent catch radius, and can get himself open on routes.

Ryan Grant- Gruden's favorite. Plays all three WR positions has a good catch radius. No speed.

Maurice Harris- Has good size and can make the spectacular catch. Not a lot of speed, but has some ability to get separation.

Robert Davis- The development player has size, can catch, has decent foot quickness for his size and should be able to see results. Needed to work on route running to the next level. Able to go up and make athletic, twisting adjustments in mid-air to pull in errant passes. I believe he should get more playing time this season.


We need to draft someone with elite speed. I don't think we should go after a free agent. A few players come to mind...

DANTE PETTIS
D.J. Clark
D. J. Moore
Deon Cain
J'mon Moore

what are your thoughts?

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To answer the question of the thread. No we do not have the talent. Not at all

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Ryan Grant is NOT on the roster, he is a free agent

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I kind of hope we keep Pryor and he connects with Smith.

He has good top speed.

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1. Draft or sign a potential # 1 WR
2. Doctson
3. Crowder
4. Resign Ryan Grant
5. Let Davis/Harris battle it out for # 5

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[quote=Dan73;1188508][B]I kind of hope we keep Pryor and he connects with Smith.[/B]

He has good top speed.

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I would rather eat dog food

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We need a significant acquisition at WR, no question

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1188506]To answer the question of the thread. No we do not have the talent. Not at all[/quote]

Agree. Time to close thread.

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Hahahahahahahaha this thread

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Bro were you high when making this? JK man but no way are we ok at WR

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Here comes the off season!

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1188510]I would rather eat dog food[/quote]

I'd rather see Trump go back to back than rely on Pryor for anything next year. He needs to be put on the curb.

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Get the F outta here with Pryor, I don’t know how anyone could want him back after the complete disaster he was last year

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1188516]Agree. Time to close thread.[/quote]

Before you attempt to trash the thread, bring a solution. You're showing, right now, to me that you absolutely have no answers. Are you just a group of trolls and malcontents with no suggestions? Play Arm-Chair GM. That is the point of this thread.

Who specifically would you get? We know who is on the free agent market, or might be, we know who is in the draft.. or ... more than likely you don't have a clue!

Tell us, who would you target as a #1 receiver in the draft, especially when most of you want to draft a NT in the first round? How will we get this mythical unicorn receiver? Do you have an idea of who is the best fit for the skins? Please, get beyond the surface bulls*it and present a logical solution. Maybe add a video of a player we can get excited about.

All you Kirkhive people, I believe the combination of QB play and coaching made this wideout group look a lot worse than they actually are... Tell me, with real facts, why I am wrong. Look at the attempted targets for Harris, Davis, or Brian Quick. They never got a chance to truly prove their gameday skills.

Thus there is a specific reason for discussion about this skill group.

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[quote=mooby;1188542]I'd rather see Trump go back to back than rely on Pryor for anything next year. He needs to be put on the curb.[/quote]

Come to the Trump side mooby! :devil:

and now back the Debating with Enemies forum with that stuff!

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OK then,

1. Sign FA Jarvis Landry to be our #1.
2. Draft Christian Kirk of Texas A&M as a deep threat.
3. Re-sign Ryan Grant-Gruden.
4. Doctson - Send to Seal Training to toughen him up enough for the NFL.
5. No. 1 Slot Receiver - Jamison Crowder

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[QUOTE=MTK;1188547]Get the F outta here with Pryor, I don’t know how anyone could want him back after the complete disaster he was last year[/QUOTE]Was Pyror a victim of his own bad play or the QB?

It is hard to say cut a guy unless I know the whole story.

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[quote=Dan73;1188557]Was Pyror a victim of his own bad play or the QB?

It is hard to say cut a guy unless I know the whole story.

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A) Pryor is already a FA so why pay him money to come back

B) Pryor sucks, pure garbage

C) Pryor Sucks

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[QUOTE=Dan73;1188557]Was Pyror a victim of his own bad play or the QB?

It is hard to say cut a guy unless I know the whole story.

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The same QB that put up big numbers with Garçon and Jackson? I think it’s easy to see what the whole story was.

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Kirk was not the issue with TP lol, the issue was he was out of cleveland where nobody cared if he got the ball because they knew they would win regardless. In DC he could not get open at all, and that "speed" he has was never seen.

PPL got hyped about him because the media kept showing him on 1v1 drills against Breeland in practice.

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[quote=Dan73;1188557]Was Pyror a victim of his own bad play or the QB?

It is hard to say cut a guy unless I know the whole story.

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Chris Cooley said Pryor's route running was subpar. While I'm not upset with KC leaving, I don't think his play caused major sub-par performance from any WR.

I was a big Pryor guy. He stunk. Goodbye.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1188563]Chris Cooley said Pryor's route running was subpar. While I'm not upset with KC leaving, I don't think his play caused major sub-par performance from any WR.

I was a big Pryor guy. He stunk. Goodbye.[/quote]

I fell for the koolaid too, I predicted he would have 10 TDs and 1000 yards

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1188565]I fell for the koolaid too, I predicted he would have 10 TDs and 1000 yards[/quote]

[IMG]https://i.ytimg.com/vi/aGKHZdGjfhs/hqdefault.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1188565]I fell for the koolaid too, I predicted he would have 10 TDs and 1000 yards[/quote]

He and Crowder killed me in fantasy. AAARGH

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We need a # 1 WR. I think if we had one the rest of the group would fall into place (this is assuming Grant-Gruden *hat tip to KI* is brought back). Right now everyone is pushed up 1 spot above their pay grade.

I'm still high on Doctson and it sounds like AS will take more deep shot chances. Here's to a breakout season.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1188563]Chris Cooley said Pryor's route running was subpar. While I'm not upset with KC leaving, I don't think his play caused major sub-par performance from any WR.

I was a big Pryor guy. He stunk. Goodbye.[/QUOTE]I didn't get a chance to see a lot of games this year and did not travel down to see any. So I did not know if he was getting open and being missed or if there were issues with him not doing what it took to get open.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1188563]Chris Cooley said Pryor's route running was subpar. While I'm not upset with KC leaving, I don't think his play caused major sub-par performance from any WR.



I was a big Pryor guy. He stunk. Goodbye.[/QUOTE]


Subpar route running and poor overall effort in run blocking too. He sure talked a good game about wanting to be great, but put on the tape and it’s just not there.

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[url=http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/35662/with-alex-smith-coming-soon-redskins-need-to-find-their-version-of-tyreek-hill]With Alex Smith as QB, Redskins must find their version of Tyreek Hill - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN[/url]

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1188579][url=http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/35662/with-alex-smith-coming-soon-redskins-need-to-find-their-version-of-tyreek-hill]With Alex Smith as QB, Redskins must find their version of Tyreek Hill - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN[/url][/QUOTE]I like Watkins. I also wonder what Harris develops into or Davis.

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Watkins would prob come cheapest but he's had injury concerns, so is he another Reed?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1188581]Watkins would prob come cheapest but he's had injury concerns, so is he another Reed?[/quote]

No to Watkins. Always hurt. We need someone reliable. If we did sign him, it would have to be like Pryor, 1 year prove it deal.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1188583]No to Watkins. Always hurt. We need someone reliable. If we did sign him, it would have to be like Pryor, 1 year prove it deal.[/quote]

How about Wilson from KC? He's a solid #2 and Smith knows him well

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1188584]How about Wilson from KC? He's a solid #2 and Smith knows him well[/quote]

Allen Robinson or Paul Richardson would be my top 2 FA choices. Landry will probably be too expensive and we already have Crowder in the slot.

[url=http://walterfootball.com/freeagents2018WR.php]WalterFootball.com: 2018 NFL Free Agents - Wide Receivers[/url]

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Add Richardson or Robinson, with a healthy Reed, and a 1st or 2nd round RB, and we could be loaded.

If Reed could give us 12 games I'd be thrilled.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1188586]Add Richardson or Robinson, with a healthy Reed, and a 1st or 2nd round RB, and we could be loaded.

If Reed could give us 12 games I'd be thrilled.[/QUOTE]I wonder about moving Reed outside and getting Trey Burton to take over at TE.

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[quote=Dan73;1188587]I wonder about moving Reed outside and getting Trey Burton to take over at TE.

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Reed can't play WR he's not quick enough

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1188561]Kirk was not the issue with TP lol, the issue was he was out of cleveland where nobody cared if he got the ball because they knew they would win regardless. In DC he could not get open at all, and that "speed" he has was never seen.

PPL got hyped about him because the media kept showing him on 1v1 drills against Breeland in practice.[/quote]

I believe that is a lot of it . . . but Cousins did not trust his WR's . . . neither Pryor nor Docston . . . there were PLENTY of times both where wide open and the ball did not go their way. PLENTY!! . . . and i'm not wanting pryor here either, unless its on the cheap (very cheap)

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[QUOTE=SkinsGuru;1188604]I believe that is a lot of it . . . but Cousins did not trust his WR's . . . neither Pryor nor Docston . . . there were PLENTY of times both where wide open and the ball did not go their way. PLENTY!! . . . and i'm not wanting pryor here either, unless its on the cheap (very cheap)[/QUOTE]This was something I was wondering about as I was reading an article about how Gruden's schemes got receivers open and they were being missed a lot.

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@PFF Desean Jackson had 1 drop all year...

1.96% drop rate 3rd best.
No comment

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1188695]@PFF Desean Jackson had 1 drop all year...

1.96% drop rate 3rd best.
No comment[/QUOTE]He and Garcon should have been kept and paid.

You know what is even sadder the Skins could have drafted Jackson instead of Kelly Davis that year.

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