Predict the top of the draft and bold predictions
 

I figured I would get a poll going of who people predict will be the 1st overall pick of the NFL draft, then for the discussion I wanted to expand it to your top of the draft. Put your prediction here, as far as you are willing to take it. Only feel certain of the top 4? Just post those. Willing to go for the whole first round, post it here.

My bold prediction is that Cleveland takes Barkley 1st, then trades the 4th pick to Buffalo, for 2 1st's and next year's 2nd and takes Lamar Jackson at 12 to sit behind Taylor for 1 to 2 years.

1 - Cleveland - Barkley
2 - NYG - Darnold
3 - NYJ - Mayfield
4 - Buffalo - Rosen
5 - Denver - Chubb
6 - Indy - Nelson
7 - Tampa - Fitzpatrick
8 - Chicago - R Smith


That's what I think are the definitively, possibly, kind of, sortof possible.

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No way Barkley goes 1. It would be the worst draft move all time

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Darnold will most likely go 1 and sit a yr behind Tyrod.
Giants take Rosen at 2
Mayfield to JETS at 3
Browns take Chubb at 4
Denver takes Barkley at 5
BILLS takes Allen at 6 TRADE W INDY
Tampa takes Nelson at 7
Bears take Vea at 8
SF Takes James at 9
Raiders take Smith at 10


But who knows. Thank goodness tomorrow is draft day

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[quote=Chico23231;1192898]No way Barkley goes 1. It would be the worst draft move all time[/quote]

The only reason that makes sense the for all the leaks on which QB the Browns will take is if they are poised to take a QB at 4, and want to get Buffalo or Miami to jump up and give them picks. If that's what they trying to do, you take Barkley at 1, get a trade partner, and take Jackson at around 11-14.

I think it would be a very smart and effective way to get the best players on his board.

I don't think any of these qb's are Carson Wentz or even Deshaun Watson, and I think Dorsey will take the best player in the draft, not force a QB

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1192900]The only reason that makes sense the for all the leaks on which QB the Browns will take is if they are poised to take a QB at 4, and want to get Buffalo or Miami to jump up and give them picks. If that's what they trying to do, you take Barkley at 1, get a trade partner, and take Jackson at around 11-14.

I think it would be a very smart and effective way to get the best players on his board.

I don't think any of these qb's are Carson Wentz or even Deshaun Watson, and I think Dorsey will take the best player in the draft, not force a QB[/quote]

Strongly disagree. No way you chance not getting "your guy" first pick at the QB position. If they go Barkley at 1, the Giants will field at least 10 calls from teams with stupid trade offers to move up and the G-men will move down. We know Jets are going QB at 3...So you then position yourself possibly with 3rd choice of QB...this would be a nightmare for the Browns.

The risk is much greater of not getting your QB you want at 4 than Barkley not being there. Barkley easily could slide to 4.

Jackson is the QB out of this draft? then if you think that, you take him at 4...that's the only way Id wait.

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Cle-Allen
NYG-Darnold
NYJ-Rosen
BUF-Mayfield
Den-Chubb
IND-Nelson
TB-James

Edit: Missed Barkley, duh.

Den-Barkley
IND-Chubb
TB-James
CHI-Nelson

I think NE jumps in to the top 10 to get Lamar Jackson somewhere, just not sure where. Ahead of Miami.

I also think McGlinchey goes top 10.

Both of those things would be fantastic for us.

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The time for overthinking is definitely here. If I’m the Browns I’m taking a QB, Darnold or Rosen. You can’t dick around with losing out on your top QB choice.

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[quote=Chico23231;1192898]No way Barkley goes 1. It would be the worst draft move all time[/quote]

There is no possible way you can say that with a straight face and mean it.

None of these "elite" QBs have separated themselves, Barkley is the number 1 prospect, if I am Cleveland I take Barkley and whichever QB falls to 4, they are guaranteed a QB regardless what they do

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1192909]There is no possible way you can say that with a straight face and mean it.

None of these "elite" QBs have separated themselves, Barkley is the number 1 prospect, if I am Cleveland I take Barkley and whichever QB falls to 4, they are guaranteed a QB regardless what they do[/quote]

I'm with you on this one. I'd go so far as to take Barkley at 1 and Chubb (if a run on Qbs happen at 2/3) at 4 and use their extra picks to trade up and get Jackson or Rudolph. Browns need good football players. Those 2 guys are best/safest in the draft.

This qb class is weird. A lot of talent but just as many holes and questions.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1192912]I'm with you on this one. I'd go so far as to take Barkley at 1 and Chubb (if a run on Qbs happen at 2/3) at 4 and use their extra picks to trade up and get Jackson or Rudolph. Browns need good football players. Those 2 guys are best/safest in the draft.

This qb class is weird. A lot of talent but just as many holes and questions.[/quote]

Exactly, there is no Andrew Luck or John Elway prospect, they are all basically the same guy with a different name. Barkley can help that new QB and for all the crap people say about not drafting a RB until the 7th round or whatever, you notice that all the good teams that don't have Brady or Rodgers have upper level talent at RB, build the OL all you want if your RB sucks your team will still suffer like it did when Zeke went out.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1192913]Exactly, there is no Andrew Luck or John Elway prospect, they are all basically the same guy with a different name. Barkley can help that new QB and for all the crap people say about not drafting a RB until the 7th round or whatever, you notice that all the good teams that don't have Brady or Rodgers have upper level talent at RB, build the OL all you want if your RB sucks your team will still suffer like it did when Zeke went out.[/quote]

In all fairness what has Luck really done? Dude hasn't played a game in well over a yr. It's always impossible damn near to predict a QB's future. Who would have thought Kirk Cousins would be a better / more durable QB than Luck that draft?

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I'd say Darnold because most of the draft gurus say that's who it will be. I don't like it though. What exactly stands out about him? look at the others:

Rosen - Most NFL ready.
Allen - Strongest arm.
Mayfield - Most accurate.
Jackson - Most athletic.

Would they pick him based on the least negatives? I wouldn't but, as we all know, the Browns could mismanage a two car parade. So it's Darnold.

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Browns - Darnold
Giants - Nelson
Jets - Mayfield
Browns - Barkley
Denver - Chubb
Indy - Rosen
Tampa - James
Bears - Vea
SF - Fitzpatrick
Raiders - Smith

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1192921]Browns - Darnold
Giants - Nelson
Jets - Mayfield
Browns - Barkley
Denver - Chubb
Indy - Rosen
Tampa - James
Bears - Vea
SF - Fitzpatrick
Raiders - Smith[/quote]

Holy shit Indy takes Rosen? Talk about bold (and nonsensical) predictions.

Writing off Luck makes no medical sense.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1192915][B]In all fairness what has Luck really done?[/B] Dude hasn't played a game in well over a yr. It's always impossible damn near to predict a QB's future. Who would have thought Kirk Cousins would be a better / more durable QB than Luck that draft?[/quote]

That is speaking with the benefit of hindsight which is always 20/20, when coming out there was NO question that Luck was going number 1 regardless who else was in that draft with him, here there are literally 4 or 5 possible that can go number 1, so since I have two picks in the top 4 I am guaranteed a QB on the same level as the other 3, so why would I not take the best overall prospect at number 1? That being Barkley, which we have seen rookie RBs take the league by storm over the last few years. That QB now QB now mentality for the sake of passing over the better player ruins teams Justas much as it makes them.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1192921]Browns - Darnold
Giants - Nelson
Jets - Mayfield
Browns - Barkley
Denver - Chubb
[B]Indy - Rosen[/B]
Tampa - James
Bears - Vea
SF - Fitzpatrick
Raiders - Smith[/quote]

KI, pass it to me next. And let me know where I can find a bag of it.

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[quote=Schneed10;1192924]Holy shit Indy takes Rosen? Talk about bold (and nonsensical) predictions.

Writing off Luck makes no medical sense.[/quote]

I channeled Edgar Cayce who told me that Luck will never be the same after his injury.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1192929]I channeled Edgar Cayce who told me that Luck will never be the same after his injury.[/quote]

Who the F is that

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1192927]That is speaking with the benefit of hindsight which is always 20/20, when coming out there was NO question that Luck was going number 1 regardless who else was in that draft with him, here there are literally 4 or 5 possible that can go number 1, so since I have two picks in the top 4 I am guaranteed a QB on the same level as the other 3, so why would I not take the best overall prospect at number 1? That being Barkley, which we have seen rookie RBs take the league by storm over the last few years. That QB now QB now mentality for the sake of passing over the better player ruins teams Justas much as it makes them.[/quote]

I totally get what you are saying, but the draft class at QB has a lot of different flavors to chose from. Browns need to make a decision at the QB position for the future.

They CANNOT let another Watson or Carson Wentz pass them. They've draft multiple QB after the first round which have failed them tremendously in recent drafts.

If they take Barkley and have Tyrod under center...11 in the box every play, offense does very little and Barkley has a big bruised ego rushing for 650 at a 3.1 avg for the year. The Browns are in the same place again.

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[quote=Schneed10;1192930]Who the F is that[/quote]

Edgar Cayce was a famous psychic who claimed to be able to predict the future.

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[quote=Chico23231;1192928]KI, pass it to me next. And let me know where I can find a bag of it.[/quote]

Based on the responses to my Indy prediction, you could probably pick up a bag of it next time you walk your dog.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1192934]Based on the responses to my Indy prediction, you could probably pick up a bag of it next time you walk your dog.[/quote]

Cheech and Chong style. Nice!

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hope the browns take chubb at 1 -- i have 20 to win 600 on that lol

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[quote=Chico23231;1192931]I totally get what you are saying, but the draft class at QB has a lot of different flavors to chose from. Browns need to make a decision at the QB position for the future.

They CANNOT let another Watson or Carson Wentz pass them. They've draft multiple QB after the first round which have failed them tremendously in recent drafts.

If they take Barkley and have Tyrod under center...11 in the box every play, offense does very little and Barkley has a big bruised ego rushing for 650 at a 3.1 avg for the year. The Browns are in the same place again.[/quote]

You take Lamar Jackson at 12, (traded with Buffalo) you have a future qb, and you run the heck out of RPO for this year. You also have some potential weapons on the WR's, and Taylor can get them the ball enough if the line is stacked.

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[quote=Schneed10;1192930]Who the F is that[/quote]

HAHAHA! My thoughts exactly.

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[quote=Chico23231;1192931]I totally get what you are saying, but the draft class at QB has a lot of different flavors to chose from. Browns need to make a decision at the QB position for the future.

They CANNOT let another Watson or Carson Wentz pass them. They've draft multiple QB after the first round which have failed them tremendously in recent drafts.

If they take Barkley and have Tyrod under center...11 in the box every play, offense does very little and Barkley has a big bruised ego rushing for 650 at a 3.1 avg for the year. The Browns are in the same place again.[/quote]

None of these guys are Wentz or Watson as a prospect, and they still have a choice at #4, they are still guaranteed a QB in the top 4 whether they take him at #1 or #4, so if I am them in that case I am taking the best player at #1 and whichever QB drops to me at #4

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If it were the Redskins using a strategy of we’ll just take whatever QB happens to fall to us I wouldn’t be very happy

I don’t want to be picking off the scrap heap when it comes to the most important spot on the field

If you’re not locked on to “your guy”, best to take another position

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1192950][B]None of these guys are Wentz or Watson as a prospect[/B], and they still have a choice at #4, they are still guaranteed a QB in the top 4 whether they take him at #1 or #4, so if I am them in that case I am taking the best player at #1 and whichever QB drops to me at #4[/quote]

See, I don't know about that...and there is my issue. I know out of the 5-6, half are fairly solid prospects...2 seem to be as good as Watson and Wentz prospect wise.

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Josh Rosen will be a better QB than Watson in 10 years just wait and see. Mayfield will be pretty good too, all the others I agree about. Allen has bust all over him and Darnold was a TO machine in college... Jackson is the most intriguing if he can stay healthy...

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If you could take the "dickhead bro" out of Mayfield, he could be the best of the bunch

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[quote=MTK;1192951]If it were the Redskins using a strategy of we’ll just take whatever QB happens to fall to us I wouldn’t be very happy

I don’t want to be picking off the scrap heap when it comes to the most important spot on the field

[B]If you’re not locked on to “your guy”, best to take another position[/B][/quote]

I think Cleveland's new GM knows QBs, and I doubt he thinks any of these qb's are gold star players. That's why I think he takes Barkley as his signature player, and builds the team with the oodles of picks they have. If you take a qb high second, and he doesn't work you can cut ties and be forgiven, but as we all know, if you take a qb in the top 5 -10 picks your career is staked to making him work.

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Browns - Darnold
Giants - Barkley
Jets - Mayfield
Bills (trade) - Allen
Denver - Rosen
Indy - Chubb
Tampa - James
Bears - Smith
SF - Nelson
Raiders - McGlinchey

And I think somewhere in this first round the Patriots trade up and take Lamar Jackson.

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My not so bold prediction is a lot of things are going to happen that nobody saw coming

Rarely are the experts and mocks on point

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Browns will draft Mayfield 1 just watch

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1193001]Browns will draft Mayfield 1 just watch[/QUOTE]



I think it’s Allen or Darnold

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[quote=MTK;1193002]I think it’s Allen or Darnold[/quote]

I will say I'm glad it hasn't been announced yet.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1193003]I will say I'm glad it hasn't been announced yet.[/quote]

I do too...this will be an interesting draft to watch I think for a change. I usually just check in to see who the Skins pick, but this draft I'm anxious to watch how it plays out. I also think it could be better to watch with Kirk Herbstreit there instead of Gruden.

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[quote=Meks;1192941]hope the browns take chubb at 1 -- i have 20 to win 600 on that lol[/quote]

I think you're going to miss it by 1 spot.

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Bold prediction:

1. Browns - QB not named Darnold
2. Giants - QB named Darnold/trade out so someone else can pick him
3. Jets - QB named Rosen or Allen
4. TRADE UP by someone else to get Saquon Barkley