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MTK 04-27-2018 07:51 AM

Day 2 thread: rounds 2-3
 
[URL="https://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-draft/2018/4/26/17286642/2018-nfl-draft-best-players-available-bpa-day-2"]NFL Draft 2018: Best players available after Round 1[/URL]

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-27-2018 08:09 AM

Re: Day 2 thread: rounds 2-3
 
Hoping for a RB in round 2

punch it in 04-27-2018 08:26 AM

Day 2 thread: rounds 2-3
 
[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;1193326]Hoping for a RB in round 2[/QUOTE]



RB or O-line. If Rasheem Green is there though,....
Edit:scratch that Im thinking we pick way later than we do. Ill go with Connor Williams.

skinsfaninok 04-27-2018 08:35 AM

Re: Day 2 thread: rounds 2-3
 
[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1193326]Hoping for a RB in round 2[/quote]

If we get Guice I'm going to be happy af

skinsfaninok 04-27-2018 08:37 AM

Re: Day 2 thread: rounds 2-3
 
My top 3 for this round

1. Hernandez (doubt he will be there)
2. Guice
3. Andrews

KI Skins Fan 04-27-2018 08:52 AM

Re: Day 2 thread: rounds 2-3
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1193335]My top 3 for this round

1. Hernandez (doubt he will be there)
2. Guice
3. Andrews[/quote]

If the Giants take Hernandez (after landing Barkley) I'm going to **** my pants.

If the Skins want Guice, they had better move up.

Finally, Andrews. Sigh. There you go again with your Sooner glasses on. He is not Top 3.

Edit: OK, I changed my mind. I'll give you Andrews but don't get carried away with any more Sooners. ;)

skinsfaninok 04-27-2018 09:04 AM

Re: Day 2 thread: rounds 2-3
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1193338]If the Giants take Hernandez (after landing Barkley) I'm going to **** my pants.

If the Skins want Guice, they had better move up.

Finally, Andrews. Sigh. There you go again with your Sooner glasses on. He is not Top 3.

Edit: OK, I changed my mind. I'll give you Andrews but don't get carried away with any more Sooners. ;)[/quote]

Yes it was a homer choice but we do need a TE that can make plays (Kelce) type and he has some of that in him. I don't trust Reed to play 5 games and VD is getting old. Giants will take Hernandez its gotta be their top choice

punch it in 04-27-2018 09:04 AM

Re: Day 2 thread: rounds 2-3
 
[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1193338]If the Giants take Hernandez (after landing Barkley) I'm going to **** my pants.



If the Skins want Guice, they had better move up.



Finally, Andrews. Sigh. There you go again with your Sooner glasses on. He is not Top 3.



Edit: OK, I changed my mind. I'll give you Andrews but don't get carried away with any more Sooners. ;)[/QUOTE]



Definitely better tight ends will be available to us. Not that I want one there. Okie being an Okie. Lol

skinsfaninok 04-27-2018 09:46 AM

Re: Day 2 thread: rounds 2-3
 
[quote=punch it in;1193344]Definitely better tight ends will be available to us. Not that I want one there. Okie being an Okie. Lol[/quote]

Dallas Goedert is a good choice as well, I'm probably in the minority on TE in the 2nd but if Hernandez and Guice are gone I'd love a TE

SFREDSKIN 04-27-2018 10:36 AM

Re: Day 2 thread: rounds 2-3
 
[url=http://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/need-know-what-can-redskins-do-draft-friday-night]Need to Know: What can the Redskins do in the draft on Friday night? | NBC Sports Washington[/url]

Chico23231 04-27-2018 10:52 AM

Re: Day 2 thread: rounds 2-3
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1193362][url=http://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/need-know-what-can-redskins-do-draft-friday-night]Need to Know: What can the Redskins do in the draft on Friday night? | NBC Sports Washington[/url][/quote]

edit...mis read.

Im hoping RB/ Wil Hernandez

MTK 04-27-2018 10:54 AM

Day 2 thread: rounds 2-3
 
I think we’ll have a decent shot at Chubb or Jones

If Hernandez is somehow still there jump all over him

skinsfaninok 04-27-2018 10:56 AM

Re: Day 2 thread: rounds 2-3
 
I was surprised NE took Michel, very unlike them.. It could be a sign of future after Brady.. They will need a RB to carry the load soon.

Schneed10 04-27-2018 11:00 AM

Re: Day 2 thread: rounds 2-3
 
I like where we sit, 12th pick in tonight's festivities.

There are several players who I'd be very happy with at that spot:

Guard Will Hernandez UTEP
RB Derrius Guice LSU
Slot CB Donte Jackson LSU
CB Josh Jackson Iowa
RB Nick Chubb Georgia
C/G James Daniels Iowa
Edge Rush OLB Harold Landry Boston College
Free Safety Ronnie Harrison Alabama
Free Safety Justin Reid Stanford
RB Ronald Jones USC

skinsfaninok 04-27-2018 11:18 AM

Re: Day 2 thread: rounds 2-3
 
[quote=Schneed10;1193370]I like where we sit, 12th pick in tonight's festivities.

There are several players who I'd be very happy with at that spot:

Guard Will Hernandez UTEP
RB Derrius Guice LSU
Slot CB Donte Jackson LSU
CB Josh Jackson Iowa
RB Nick Chubb Georgia
C/G James Daniels Iowa
Edge Rush OLB Harold Landry Boston College
Free Safety Ronnie Harrison Alabama
Free Safety Justin Reid Stanford
RB Ronald Jones USC[/quote]


Add Andrews or Goedert. I'd be happy too

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-27-2018 11:40 AM

Re: Day 2 thread: rounds 2-3
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1193333]If we get Guice I'm going to be happy af[/quote]

If we get Guice, instant bliss

skinsnut 04-27-2018 11:51 AM

Re: Day 2 thread: rounds 2-3
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1193373]Add Andrews or Goedert. I'd be happy too[/quote]

I am thinking it will be either RB Jones or some sort of 2nd string secondary.
I don't see the top 2 remaining interior OL dropping to us.
Unfortunately, there are 2 top OL, and 2 top RB's...but there are 12 slots until us :(

skinsfaninok 04-27-2018 11:56 AM

Re: Day 2 thread: rounds 2-3
 
[quote=skinsnut;1193375]I am thinking it will be either RB Jones or some sort of 2nd string secondary.
I don't see the top 2 remaining interior OL dropping to us.
Unfortunately, there are 2 top OL, and 2 top RB's...but there are 12 slots until us :([/quote]

Wonder if we would move up to Hernandez? He's a monster. I think Guice may slide to us... CLE wont take a RB, Colts are our main threat for Guice imo.

skinsnut 04-27-2018 12:19 PM

Re: Day 2 thread: rounds 2-3
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1193376]Wonder if we would move up to Hernandez? He's a monster. I think Guice may slide to us... CLE wont take a RB, Colts are our main threat for Guice imo.[/quote]

Colts and Tampa.
No way we move up for a guard. Giants are definitely getting him.
The only reason we would move up would be for Guice...and then how?
next years pick? hand someone Kelley? I just dont see it.
I would say it is either Jones or some secondary.
Although TE theoretically looks like the right value...how do you justify 4 TE's on a team without a starter at Guard or RB?

We can pick a guard later or even a RB if the top 2 of each are gone and sadly go secondary depth. It is all about trying to find a starter. Odd's just dont look good though outside of Jones for RB. I hope I am wrong and we get either Guice or Daniels the center.

CRedskinsRule 04-27-2018 12:23 PM

Re: Day 2 thread: rounds 2-3
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1193362][url=http://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/need-know-what-can-redskins-do-draft-friday-night]Need to Know: What can the Redskins do in the draft on Friday night? | NBC Sports Washington[/url][/quote]

good article, because it gives 13 names, meaning at least 1 will be there. I don't know if their board exactly matches this article, but gives me some names to watch:
Connor Williams of Texas.
Will Hernandez of UTEP
Lorenzo Carter of Georgia
Harold Landry of Boston College
Nick Chubb
Kerryon Johnson
Ronald Jones
Derrius Guice
Josh Jackson
Isaiah Oliver,
tight end Dallas Goedert,
safety Ronnie Harrison,
wide receiver D.J. Chark

KI Skins Fan 04-27-2018 12:39 PM

Re: Day 2 thread: rounds 2-3
 
[quote=skinsnut;1193377]Colts and Tampa.
No way we move up for a guard. Giants are definitely getting him.
[B]The only reason we would move up would be for Guice...and then how?
next years pick?[/B] hand someone Kelley? I just dont see it.
I would say it is either Jones or some secondary.
Although TE theoretically looks like the right value...how do you justify 4 TE's on a team without a starter at Guard or RB?

We can pick a guard later or even a RB if the top 2 of each are gone and sadly go secondary depth. It is all about trying to find a starter. Odd's just dont look good though outside of Jones for RB. I hope I am wrong and we get either Guice or Daniels the center.[/quote]

Yes, if necessary. Bruce Allen spent an inordinate amount of time with Guice. Bruce must love the guy and believe that he is a real difference- maker. If that is true, then they must move up to grab him.

FrenchSkin 04-27-2018 12:49 PM

Re: Day 2 thread: rounds 2-3
 
[quote=skinsnut;1193377]Colts and Tampa.
No way we move up for a guard. Giants are definitely getting him.
The only reason we would move up would be for Guice...and then how?
next years pick? hand someone Kelley? I just dont see it.
I would say it is either Jones or some secondary.
Although TE theoretically looks like the right value...how do you justify 4 TE's on a team without a starter at Guard or RB?

[B]We can pick a guard later or even a RB if the top 2 of each are gone and sadly go secondary depth[/B]. It is all about trying to find a starter. Odd's just dont look good though outside of Jones for RB. I hope I am wrong and we get either Guice or Daniels the center.[/quote]

If Hernandez is still available that would be awesome, if neither him nor Guice are still here, what about trading down and hope to get a G and RB in the late 2nd and 3rd ?

(Gs available: Smith, Corbett or Hearn / RBs available Chubb, Jones, Johnson, Kelly, Hines and others).

skinsfaninok 04-27-2018 12:58 PM

Re: Day 2 thread: rounds 2-3
 
[quote=skinsnut;1193377]Colts and Tampa.
No way we move up for a guard. Giants are definitely getting him.
The only reason we would move up would be for Guice...and then how?
next years pick? hand someone Kelley? I just dont see it.
I would say it is either Jones or some secondary.
Although TE theoretically looks like the right value...how do you justify 4 TE's on a team without a starter at Guard or RB?

We can pick a guard later or even a RB if the top 2 of each are gone and sadly go secondary depth. It is all about trying to find a starter. Odd's just dont look good though outside of Jones for RB. I hope I am wrong and we get either Guice or Daniels the center.[/quote]

I guess it could just be BPA too, we'll see what the guys do tonight...

Speaking of TE, Jason Witten just retired.

KI Skins Fan 04-27-2018 01:03 PM

Re: Day 2 thread: rounds 2-3
 
[quote=FrenchSkin;1193381]If Hernandez is still available that would be awesome, if neither him nor Guice are still here, what about trading down and hope to get a G and RB in the late 2nd and 3rd ?

(Gs available: Smith, Corbett or Hearn / RBs available Chubb, Jones, Johnson, Kelly, Hines and others).[/quote]

That might be the way to go if this is going to be a needs-based draft. BPA is not the Skins' approach, no matter how much lip service they may give it.

Schneed10 04-27-2018 01:04 PM

Re: Day 2 thread: rounds 2-3
 
To get Guice, actually yeah a trade might be necessary, if you really think he's head & shoulders above Chubb and Ronald Jones.

Here's the order of the 2nd round tonight, and who their top RB is. I'm bolding the teams that could take a RB:

1 Cleveland (lead back: Carlos Hyde)
2 New York (Saquon Barkley)
3 Cleveland (Carlos Hyde)
[B]4 Colts (Marlon Mack who??)
5 Colts (Marlon Mack who??)[/B]
[B]6 Bucs (Jacquizz Rodgers)[/B]
7 Bears (Jordan Howard)
[B]8 Broncos (Devontae Booker)[/B]
9 Raiders (Marshawn Lynch and Doug Martin)
[B]10 Dolphins (Frank Gore)[/B]
11 Pats (Sony Michel)
12 Redskins

There are a lot of teams there who could easily take Guice. Now I don't love the idea of trading up, but next year we're going to have a lot of compensatory picks. If we trade away a pick next year to do it, I might be OK with it.

FrenchSkin 04-27-2018 01:41 PM

Re: Day 2 thread: rounds 2-3
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1193384]That might be the way to go if this is going to be a needs-based draft. BPA is not the Skins' approach, no matter how much lip service they may give it.[/quote]

Which I'm ok with if you don't reach and get value for your picks.

skinsfaninok 04-27-2018 01:55 PM

Re: Day 2 thread: rounds 2-3
 
[quote=Schneed10;1193385]To get Guice, actually yeah a trade might be necessary, if you really think he's head & shoulders above Chubb and Ronald Jones.

Here's the order of the 2nd round tonight, and who their top RB is. I'm bolding the teams that could take a RB:

1 Cleveland (lead back: Carlos Hyde)
2 New York (Saquon Barkley)
3 Cleveland (Carlos Hyde)
[B]4 Colts (Marlon Mack who??)
5 Colts (Marlon Mack who??)[/B]
[B]6 Bucs (Jacquizz Rodgers)[/B]
7 Bears (Jordan Howard)
[B]8 Broncos (Devontae Booker)[/B]
9 Raiders (Marshawn Lynch and Doug Martin)
[B]10 Dolphins (Frank Gore)[/B]
11 Pats (Sony Michel)
12 Redskins

There are a lot of teams there who could easily take Guice. Now I don't love the idea of trading up, but next year we're going to have a lot of compensatory picks. If we trade away a pick next year to do it, I might be OK with it.[/quote]


Yeah.... Colts are taking Guice lol

CRedskinsRule 04-27-2018 02:18 PM

Re: Day 2 thread: rounds 2-3
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1193396]Yeah.... Colts are taking Guice lol[/quote]

Would you try to trade for Cleveland's first pick in the second round, and give them our 4th and one of our 5ths? It's the right value, I don't know if they would take it. I imagine the first pick of the 2nd round has a bit of exaggerated value as teams reshuffle their boards.

edit: actually that value is for their second pick, the one after the Giants...

Schneed10 04-27-2018 02:35 PM

Re: Day 2 thread: rounds 2-3
 
I think I'd rather have more swings of the bat. I'd sit tight and take Guice if he's there. If he's not I'd take one of the very good interior offensive linemen or Ronald Jones.

30gut 04-27-2018 02:45 PM

Re: Day 2 thread: rounds 2-3
 
Maurice Hurst
DJ Chark
Christian Kirk
Will Hernandez
Josh Jackson
Mike Geiski
James Daniels
Dallas Godert





Nick Chubb

KI Skins Fan 04-27-2018 02:46 PM

Re: Day 2 thread: rounds 2-3
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1193399]Would you try to trade for Cleveland's first pick in the second round, and give them our 4th and one of our 5ths? It's the right value, I don't know if they would take it. I imagine the first pick of the 2nd round has a bit of exaggerated value as teams reshuffle their boards.

edit: actually that value is for their second pick, the one after the Giants...[/quote]

If I were Bruce Allen, I would definitely pay the price to move up for the first pick of the round if I believed that Guice is a special player who could significantly improve our running game.

Irrefutable 04-27-2018 03:01 PM

Re: Day 2 thread: rounds 2-3
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1193403]If I were Bruce Allen, I would definitely pay the price to move up for the first pick of the round if I believed that Guice is a special player who could significantly improve our running game.[/quote]

noooooooo, they need a starting guard, a starting RB, a starting CB, and help just about everywhere. That is the type of move you make if you are 1 player away from being a league champion.

CRedskinsRule 04-27-2018 03:12 PM

Re: Day 2 thread: rounds 2-3
 
[QUOTE=Irrefutable;1193404]noooooooo, they need a starting guard, a starting RB, a starting CB, and help just about everywhere. That is the type of move you make if you are 1 player away from being a league champion.[/QUOTE]If we got a day 1 starting guard as a result of a trade, I would sign CJ Anderson tomorrow, pick up cb's in the 5th and 6th round.

And be happy as hell with the offseason

KI Skins Fan 04-27-2018 03:15 PM

Re: Day 2 thread: rounds 2-3
 
[quote=Irrefutable;1193404]noooooooo, they need a starting guard, a starting RB, a starting CB, and help just about everywhere. That is the type of move you make if you are 1 player away from being a league champion.[/quote]

Whatever they do will probably be OK with me.

KI Skins Fan 04-27-2018 03:17 PM

Re: Day 2 thread: rounds 2-3
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1193406]If we got a day 1 starting guard as a result of a trade, I would sign CJ Anderson tomorrow, pick up cb's in the 5th and 6th round.

And be happy as hell with the offseason[/quote]

Sounds good to me.

punch it in 04-27-2018 03:23 PM

Re: Day 2 thread: rounds 2-3
 
[QUOTE=Schneed10;1193370]I like where we sit, 12th pick in tonight's festivities.



There are several players who I'd be very happy with at that spot:



Guard Will Hernandez UTEP

RB Derrius Guice LSU

Slot CB Donte Jackson LSU

CB Josh Jackson Iowa

RB Nick Chubb Georgia

C/G James Daniels Iowa

Edge Rush OLB Harold Landry Boston College

Free Safety Ronnie Harrison Alabama

Free Safety Justin Reid Stanford

RB Ronald Jones USC[/QUOTE]



Someone is drafting for need early in the second round and i think i like it.....[emoji57][emoji846][emoji6]

Chico23231 04-27-2018 03:47 PM

Re: Day 2 thread: rounds 2-3
 
Run game time 2nd round pick

punch it in 04-27-2018 03:55 PM

Re: Day 2 thread: rounds 2-3
 
[QUOTE=Chico23231;1193411]Run game time 2nd round pick[/QUOTE]



Yup but id settle for a db too

Skinzorz 04-27-2018 04:10 PM

Re: Day 2 thread: rounds 2-3
 
OL, RB, DB.....not necessarily in that order


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Chief X_Phackter 04-27-2018 04:15 PM

Re: Day 2 thread: rounds 2-3
 
I really hope they stick with the defense. I'd be happy with Harold Landry, Maurice Hurst, Josh Jackson, Ronnie Harrison, Justin Reid...but I won't hate it if they take Will Hernandez if he's available, or a top 5-6 RB in Guice, Chubb, or Jones, but I think they can find a good RB tomorrow too.


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