Redskins - Eagles Post Game Thread
 

As we say our farewell to our 2018 Redskins Hopes & Dreams, this seems like an appropriate place to start.

We can make plenty of excuses for Sanchez, losing Jonathan Cooper, etc. on offense.

Defense has no excuses. We have talent there. The scheme sucks and our weaknesses are exposed every week. That's on Jay Gruden.

Having 1 backup for 2 guard positions - that's on Jay Gruden.

Lack of adjustments on D - that's on Manusky, and by extension Jay Gruden.

For the love of Christ teach our D they can only go for the strip if they gang tackle, when it's 1 on 1 I'm tired of seeing our guys go for the strip only to fail at the tackle.

Fire Bruce Allen. Fire Jay Gruden. Fire whoever the goddamn strength and conditioning coach is. Fire everybody.

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This was a 1 point game entering the 4th... sure doesn't feel like it now.

Some random thoughts:

[B]+[/B]

[I]AP[/I]

[I]Decent pass pro[/I] considering we lost both our back up gards during the game

Loved [I]Foster[/I] stop early in the game and his coverage on Josh’s INT

Loved [I]Brown[/I] stop on 4th and goal too

[I]Doctson[/I] had some nice catches

[I]Reed[/I]'s effort to get the 1st down late in the 2nd was something we rarely see from him


[B]-[/B]

[I]Injuries[/I] Colt, Cooper... this is just too much to overcome for this team

[I]Norman[/I], a part from the pick he had a bad game, I don't get why they play him on [U]pressed man coverage[/U] that much, [U]he's a soft zone CB[/U]...

[I]HHCD[/I]... Enough with this guy... such a disappointment: pathetic angle again on Sproles TD late in the 2nd, then waiting on Tate rather trying to tackle for a little gain in the 4th...

Where was the [I]pass rush[/I]?

About the above, on the play just before Norman’s pick: 3rd down play and our DTs were Tim Settle and [I][U]#99 Caleb Brantley[/U][/I]... really? I get that lately we've been rotating our Dlinemen way more than early in the season, and Tim Settle is playing really well... But this is getting our of hand, and it doesn't seem to be working... On [I][U]key situations don't you want your best 11 on the field[/U][/I]?!

Not gonna hate on [I]TW[/I] but I really didn't like that he [U]missed the block on the trick play early in the 4th[/U] where Reed threw it back to CT on 3rd down. That was a [U]1st down[/U].
If your best players don't make plays they're supposed to make you're not going to overcome adversity. At that point it was a [U]12 points game with 10:20 to go[/U], this offense needed a spark and instead it's a 3 and out... Disappointing.

Heck... still hoping to see a W at FedEx on Sunday...

HTTR

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1211232]This was a 1 point game entering the 4th... sure doesn't feel like it now.

Some random thoughts:

[B]+[/B]

[I]AP[/I]

[I]Decent pass pro[/I] considering we lost both our back up gards during the game

Loved [I]Foster[/I] stop early in the game and his coverage on Josh’s INT

Loved [I]Brown[/I] stop on 4th and goal too

[I]Doctson[/I] had some nice catches

[I]Reed[/I]'s effort to get the 1st down late in the 2nd was something we rarely see from him


[B]-[/B]

[I]Injuries[/I] Colt, Cooper... this is just too much to overcome for this team

[I]Norman[/I], a part from the pick he had a bad game, I don't get why they play him on [U]pressed man coverage[/U] that much, [U]he's a soft zone CB[/U]...

[I]HHCD[/I]... Enough with this guy... such a disappointment: pathetic angle again on Sproles TD late in the 2nd, then waiting on Tate rather trying to tackle for a little gain in the 4th...

Where was the [I]pass rush[/I]?

About the above, on the play just before Norman’s pick: 3rd down play and our DTs were Tim Settle and [I][U]#99 Caleb Brantley[/U][/I]... really? I get that lately we've been rotating our Dlinemen way more than early in the season, and Tim Settle is playing really well... But this is getting our of hand, and it doesn't seem to be working... On [I][U]key situations don't you want your best 11 on the field[/U][/I]?!

Not gonna hate on [I]TW[/I] but I really didn't like that he [U]missed the block on the trick play early in the 4th[/U] where Reed threw it back to CT on 3rd down. That was a [U]1st down[/U].
If your best players don't make plays they're supposed to make you're not going to overcome adversity. At that point it was a [U]12 points game with 10:20 to go[/U], this offense needed a spark and instead it's a 3 and out... Disappointing.

Heck... still hoping to see a W at FedEx on Sunday...

HTTR[/quote]

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FWIW: On the Jordan Reed to Chris Thompson pass play, Trent Williams was trying to make up for someone else's miss on the block. He nearly got it, too. Was not his man.

that being said, can you name any perennial pro bowler players on this roster right now? It is a kind of a catch 22 situation, would the roster look better with better coaches are are they getting the most out of a limited group. I dont really know.

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John Keim is literally the only bright spot for me on ESPN right now. The dick riding last night was pretty fierce. Who knew Witten and Ertz were practically BFF's?

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I don’t know what to say,what a season.
But I think I’m starting to believe 5superbowls3wins theory that this team is cursed :banghead:

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Everything will be rectified this week . The Giants are just the team the Skins need to feel better!

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How do you go from 5-2 to 6-6 ?

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[QUOTE=REDSKINS4ever;1211246]How do you go from 5-2 to 6-6 ?[/QUOTE]Lose 4 out of 5.

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Defense has been rough. They have not been able to stop anybody. I know it was 14 points going into the 4th but the Eagles had absolutely zero problems moving the ball.

The offense is anemic and you can't blame Sanchez for that frankly the game plan for this team going into the season was TOP control with a running game and that just hasn't been the case for a while. Personnel is not built for it and Gruden doesn't call it.

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My only refrain is fire gruden.

This team has talent but when your coach doesnt know how to call plays, get the team ready for big games, manage games, have a strength and conditioning regimen that protects players, win down the stretch, be creative in 2nd halfs, score on the first drive of the second half (said yesterday its been 24 games since we scored on our first possession in the 2nd half ). Then The coach has to go.

Its not front office, its jay effing gruden and the staff including d coordinater that he picked.

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You won't get any arguments from me

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I'll just say this. If anyone was pinning hopes on Jonathan Cooper, you have some low aspirations.

Cooper never lived up to his first round selection. And he is on his third team in 3 years. That alone should tell you something.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;1211254]I'll just say this. If anyone was pinning hopes on Jonathan Cooper, you have some low aspirations.

Cooper never lived up to his first round selection. And he is on his third team in 3 years. That alone should tell you something.[/quote]

Nobody said Cooper is the savior at LG

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1211256]Nobody said Cooper is the savior at LG[/quote]

nobody ever said that, but he is solid depth.

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And we were hoping he would last the season...

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1. We're done for this season.
2. We need a new GM and HC in order to get better.
3. The future of Redskins football depends on what Dan Snyder does about the GM and HC positions.

That is all.

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I’m out of fucks to give. Injuries you win again.


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[quote=MTK;1211265]I’m out of fucks to give. Injuries you win again.


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I started this feeling when Alex went down

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1211251]My only refrain is fire gruden.

This team has talent but when your coach doesnt know how to call plays, get the team ready for big games, manage games, have a strength and conditioning regimen that protects players, win down the stretch, be creative in 2nd halfs, score on the first drive of the second half (said yesterday its been 24 games since we scored on our first possession in the 2nd half ). Then The coach has to go.

Its not front office, its jay effing gruden and the staff including d coordinater that he picked.[/quote]

It is the front office as well as Jay Gruden. The front office hires the coaches. The front office makes the decisions not to re-sign Kirk Cousins. The front office makes the decisions to sign Ruben Foster. The front office makes the decision to give up a few first rounders for RGIII. The list goes on and on. I'm sorry, but Bruce Allen needs to be fired along with Jay Gruden, and sadly to say, Greg Manusky as well. Keep various position coaches like Jim Tomsula and let the new coach decide if he wants to keep those guys or not. But Bruce Allen has had 10 years to help build a contender, and the Redskins have played two post season games - and have lost both. They're terrible in prime time games. They go from 5-2 to 6-6, and play terrible at home. While injuries can be a freak thing, I start to wonder how can one team be bitten by the injury bug so severely and frequently? I can give a pass for one year of terrible injuries, but two years in a row riddled with season ending injuries? Strength and conditioning sucks.

Techniques suck. Look how bad the defensive tackling is. Watching the Vikings/Patriots game the other night, one big thing stood out to me that I don't see with our defense. The Patriots defensive guys were wrapping up the guys they were tackling. The solo tackles were successful, because they wrapped the guy up. The Redskins don't try to wrap the guy up when they tackle. They try to hit first, strip the ball, and the last resort is to wrestle the guy down after he's gained an additional 5 yards. It's pathetic. This team will be no better than 7-9 by the end of the season. It's time for everyone to go.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1211265]I’m out of fucks to give. Injuries you win again.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]Injuries on D?

The D has been a let down and under achieving.

I'm trying to find Gruden's comments after the game about the D, I heard it reported.

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All I have to say is I never realized how slow Kerrigan is out in the open. The man runs like he’s underwater, it’s amazing to watch an athlete run like Wile E Coyote, stuck in one place.


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[quote=DYoungJelly;1211273]Injuries on D?

The D has been a let down and under achieving.

I'm trying to find Gruden's comments after the game about the D, I heard it reported.

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Defense has been solid all yr , it has kept us in games and kept us in this game. The offense sucks balls, and is injured. If it wasn't for the D and Peterson we would be 3-9 right now

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1211275]All I have to say is I never realized how slow Kerrigan is out in the open. The man runs like he’s underwater, it’s amazing to watch an athlete run like Wile E Coyote, stuck in one place.


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Him and smith both have no speed at all, it kills our pass rush. I'd be fine with letting Smith walk.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1211276]Defense has been solid all yr , it has kept us in games and kept us in this game. The offense sucks balls, and is injured. If it wasn't for the D and Peterson we would be 3-9 right now[/QUOTE]Except they haven't been solid.

They have been decent against 1 dimensional run up the gut teams.

We have been screened all year and have given up the edge all year and stand zero chance against a team with a good qb.

We have more talent on defense than we have shown.

Norman, DJ, and now Clinton Dix. We should be able to mask an inexperienced cb with that line up but we don't.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1211277]Him and smith both have no speed at all, it kills our pass rush. I'd be fine with letting Smith walk.[/QUOTE]Ryan is making 12m this year and 13m next year.

He needs to be restructured.

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Some here want Colin K signed, here are some pro and cons:

Pros:
Most talented and youngest of all scrubs available
PR positive move after signing Rueben Foster (of course there still will be critics)

Negatives:
The anthem sit in protests seems to have disappeared and this will reignite it
I don’t think any Redskins kneel, but this would probably change and management might not be thrilled.
Alex Smith says: shit! You are taking my job again? Fucker!!

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1211282]Some here want Colin K signed, here are some pro and cons:



Pros:

Most talented and youngest of all scrubs available

PR positive move after signing Rueben Foster (of course there still will be critics)



Negatives:

The anthem sit in protests seems to have disappeared and this will reignite it

I don’t think any Redskins kneel, but this would probably change and management might not be thrilled.

Alex Smith says: shit! You are taking my job again? Fucker!![/QUOTE]



Sign him.

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[quote=MTK;1211265]I’m out of fucks to give. Injuries you win again.


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while true, we cant simply use that to glaze over the facts:

1. poor front office decisions coming into the season, (the alex trade was very bad decision)
2 how unprepared the team has looked a number of times (Indy, New Orleans)
3 the execution of the offense (the Offense has fallen off since McVay left)
4the poor scheme of the defense (Ryan Kerrigan shouldnt be covering anybody, inability to adjust)
5 the bad play calling (AP should have gotten the ball in the 3rd quarter just last night)
6 the lack of a passing game (Cant develop WRs, Alex was extremely poor)
7 the inability to come from behind and fight
8 the undisciplined play on the field
9 the lack of accountability in the locker room

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For the 27th consecutive year, Washington will not win 11 games. Every other franchise in the NFL has done it at least once in that span.

LOL UNREAL

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1211286]while true, we cant simply use that to glaze over the facts:

1. poor front office decisions coming into the season, (the alex trade was very bad decision)
2 how unprepared the team has looked a number of times (Indy, New Orleans)
3 the execution of the offense (the Offense has fallen off since McVay left)
4the poor scheme of the defense (Ryan Kerrigan shouldnt be covering anybody, inability to adjust)
5 the bad play calling (AP should have gotten the ball in the 3rd quarter just last night)
6 the lack of a passing game (Cant develop WRs, Alex was extremely poor)
7 the inability to come from behind and fight
8 the undisciplined play on the field
9 the lack of accountability in the locker room[/QUOTE]They had 8.5 in the box every play after Sanchez came in.

AP wasn't getting anything after Colt went down.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1211282]Some here want Colin K signed, here are some pro and cons:

Pros:
Most talented and youngest of all scrubs available
PR positive move after signing Rueben Foster (of course there still will be critics)

Negatives:
The anthem sit in protests seems to have disappeared and this will reignite it
I don’t think any Redskins kneel, but this would probably change and management might not be thrilled.
Alex Smith says: shit! You are taking my job again? Fucker!![/quote]

Why would you stir the pot bringing in Colin K when there are 4 games left and we have so many injuries? It would also be a PR nightmare. Think the stadium is empty now watch to see what happens if they sign him.

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The Redskins have also gone 24 straight games without scoring on the first drive in the 3rd qtr. LOL Shows u that there are no adjustments made at all.

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[quote=Back2RFK;1211289]Why would you stir the pot bringing in Colin K when there are 4 games left and we have so many injuries?[/quote]

He wouldn't play until week 17 most likely so I agree , no point in it unless u want to get a good PR statement. 6-10 is the best option for this team right now

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1211291]He wouldn't play until week 17 most likely so I agree , no point in it unless u want to get a good PR statement. 6-10 is the best option for this team right now[/quote]

Good PR? Just as much if not more bad PR if he was signed.

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Have to give a thumbs up to Colt who played two more plays with a broken leg.

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[quote=Back2RFK;1211297]Have to give a thumbs up to Colt who played either one or two more series with a broken leg.[/quote]

yeah that takes some balls, and fight. Good for him but we all knew he'd go down at some point

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Absolutely fucking sick of Ex-Cowboys doing commentary for Redskins games. Aikman, Romo and now Witten. Just cannot escape from their BS.

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[quote=metalskins;1211269]It is the front office as well as Jay Gruden. The front office hires the coaches. The front office makes the decisions not to re-sign Kirk Cousins. The front office makes the decisions to sign Ruben Foster. The front office makes the decision to give up a few first rounders for RGIII. The list goes on and on. I'm sorry, but Bruce Allen needs to be fired along with Jay Gruden, and sadly to say, Greg Manusky as well. Keep various position coaches like Jim Tomsula and let the new coach decide if he wants to keep those guys or not. But Bruce Allen has had 10 years to help build a contender, and the Redskins have played two post season games - and have lost both. They're terrible in prime time games. They go from 5-2 to 6-6, and play terrible at home. While injuries can be a freak thing, I start to wonder how can one team be bitten by the injury bug so severely and frequently? I can give a pass for one year of terrible injuries, but two years in a row riddled with season ending injuries? Strength and conditioning sucks.

Techniques suck. Look how bad the defensive tackling is. Watching the Vikings/Patriots game the other night, one big thing stood out to me that I don't see with our defense. The Patriots defensive guys were wrapping up the guys they were tackling. The solo tackles were successful, because they wrapped the guy up. The Redskins don't try to wrap the guy up when they tackle. They try to hit first, strip the ball, and the last resort is to wrestle the guy down after he's gained an additional 5 yards. It's pathetic. This team will be no better than 7-9 by the end of the season. It's time for everyone to go.[/quote]

If BA is fired I'm not going to cry, but DS is always going to have a Vinny Cerrato/Bruce Allen type in his circle. And BA hasn't been terrible in it. The problem is that if you have a fire and brimstone type coach there will be conflicts and FO drama, which leads us back to a Jay Gruden type coach.

Pretty much the 9th circle of hell for football fans.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1211282]Some here want Colin K signed, here are some pro and cons:

Pros:
Most talented and youngest of all scrubs available
PR positive move after signing Rueben Foster (of course there still will be critics)

Negatives:
The anthem sit in protests seems to have disappeared and this will reignite it
I don’t think any Redskins kneel, but this would probably change and management might not be thrilled.
Alex Smith says: shit! You are taking my job again? Fucker!![/quote]

I would have preferred him over Sanchez but whatever not my decision. He definitely can run a RPO which would have opened running lanes etc. He might not be bad to pick up considering neither of our QBs might be ready for off season activities.

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[quote=FWD Skins;1211300]Absolutely fucking sick of Ex-Cowboys doing commentary for Redskins games. Aikman, Romo and now Witten. Just cannot escape from their BS.[/quote]

The ESPN crew is trash and everyone knows it. Also have u noticed how many Ex Cowboys are in the media spotlight? Hmm