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But I really don't know who would be good.

Who is on your short Christmas list of GM and Head Coach candidates if DS does what he should and fires the current regime?

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1212359]But I really don't know who would be good.

Who is on your short Christmas list of GM and Head Coach candidates if DS does what he should and fires the current regime?[/quote]

Kyle Smith; Kris Richard

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Kyle Smith, Gregg Williams


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Kyle Smith for GM
Brian LeFemia for President
Coach:
Eric Bieniemy, Chiefs OC
Matt Cavanagh, Redskins QB Coach
Pete Carmichael, Saints OC
Greg Olsen, Raiders OC
Zac Taylor, Rams OC
John Fox


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Kyle Smith GM

David Shaw, Matt LaFleur, Shane Waldron, any of them for coach.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1212364]Kyle Smith, Gregg Williams


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Gregg would never come back here


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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1212365]Kyle Smith for GM
Brian LeFemia for President
Coach:
Eric Bieniemy, Chiefs OC
Matt Cavanagh, Redskins QB Coach
Pete Carmichael, Saints OC
Greg Olsen, Raiders OC
Zac Taylor, Rams OC
John Fox


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Zac Taylor is the QB coach, Waldron is the pass game coordinator.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1212372]Zac Taylor is the QB coach, Waldron is the pass game coordinator.[/QUOTE]



Ah, you’re right. LeFaeur (spelling?) is the OC


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[quote=5superbowls3wins;1212373]Ah, you’re right. LeFaeur (spelling?) is the OC


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Nope, LaFleur is the Titans OC, was with the Rams last year.

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[QUOTE=5superbowls3wins;1212369]Gregg would never come back here


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Never say never especially if it’s his only HC offer




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[QUOTE=MTK;1212380]Never say never especially if it’s his only HC offer




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Maybe you’re right, but your Snyder ever allow it?


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I hate everything about our drafts and our talent evaluators so I wouldn’t keep Kyle Smith.
He has only been the director of college scouts for months and shouldt be considered for this job.

I would take caserio (Vp of players with pats) or Decosta (ravens assit gm) as our next gm with Gregg Williams or David Shaw as HC.

In all honesty, I believe Chico would be a better gm than anyone on this stupid team.

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I change my GM, if Raiders fire McKenzie, I want him

[url]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/12/09/jon-gruden-has-no-comment-on-report-reggie-mckenzie-is-on-way-out/[/url]

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[quote=jamf;1212382]I hate everything about our drafts and our talent evaluators so I wouldn’t keep Kyle Smith.
He has only been the director of college scouts for months and shouldt be considered for this job.

I would take caserio (Vp of players with pats) or Decosta (ravens assit gm) as our next gm with Gregg Williams or David Shaw as HC.

In all honesty, I believe Chico would be a better gm than anyone on this stupid team.[/quote]

Do a little research, if you read John Keim he and many around the NFL equal Smith as a personnel evaluator to McVay as a coach. Keim wrote back during the draft that Smith ran this years draft.

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I get hype but it's all hype at this point. his one draft hasn't graded out yet and he's only been director of college scouting for 8 months. This would be a big jump. Just to be clear, I want everyone cleaned out of the front office so he needs to go as well.

With that said, I can see Snyder scared of losing the next McVay and promoting him this year.

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[QUOTE=jamf;1212389]I get hype but it's all hype at this point. his one draft hasn't graded out yet and he's only been director of college scouting for 8 months. This would be a big jump. Just to be clear, I want everyone cleaned out of the front office so he needs to go as well.

With that said, I can see Snyder scared of losing the next McVay and promoting him this year.[/QUOTE]The thing with McVay is everybody saw him coming as a prodigy.

The "safe" move was keeping Gruden.

If Smith has the talent, work ethic, and that prodigy vibe, go for it, be aggressive.





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[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailyprogress.com/meet-the-star-who-is-in-line-to-be-the/article_57708a5c-a018-5fcb-b64d-a0a79b48701c.amp.html[/url]

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[QUOTE=MTK;1212364]Kyle Smith, Gregg Williams


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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1212394][url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailyprogress.com/meet-the-star-who-is-in-line-to-be-the/article_57708a5c-a018-5fcb-b64d-a0a79b48701c.amp.html[/url][/quote]

If the Redskins want him, he’s gotta be a bad choice.

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[QUOTE=DYoungJelly;1212390]The thing with McVay is everybody saw him coming as a prodigy.

The "safe" move was keeping Gruden.

If Smith has the talent, work ethic, and that prodigy vibe, go for it, be aggressive.





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We’re going to watch McVay for the rest of his career like Browns fans watch Bill Bellecheck


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I Second, third, fourth, and fifth the sentiment of Kyle Smith getting promoted. He needs to be general manager, and he needs to be a true GM with real GM powers. We need young blood in Washington, from the front office, to the coaching staff, to the players on the field. A youth movement that is innovative and ready to truly change the culture of this franchise. Nobody living off of a big last name. No big splash hires. Just football guys who are aggressive and will grow into their positions with the team. And finally, I want to see a front office who is able to pick and grow their own talent, and then reward that talent by committing to them and keeping that talent - especially when we know that talent has a bright future in the NFL.

Snyder has to realize he's losing this team and its fans by putting out a horrible product. It's one thing if this team is very young and learning the ropes. It's another when we realize this version of the Redskins was built to be mediocre.

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Eric Schaeffer for Team President, Joe Douglas for GM (currently Eagles VP of Player Personnel), John DeFilippo for Head Coach (currently Vikings offensive coordinator, previously QB coach of the Eagles)

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[quote=Schneed10;1212467]Eric Schaeffer for Team President, Joe Douglas for GM (currently Eagles VP of Player Personnel), John DeFilippo for Head Coach (currently Vikings offensive coordinator, previously QB coach of the Eagles)[/quote]

I'd take this but would those guys come to DC? lol I wouldn't right now

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[quote=Schneed10;1212467]Eric Schaeffer for Team President, Joe Douglas for GM (currently Eagles VP of Player Personnel), John DeFilippo for Head Coach (currently Vikings offensive coordinator, previously QB coach of the Eagles)[/quote]

I haven't really thought much about Joe Douglas. That's an interesting call. I'm thinking the Eagles probably don't want to have much disruption in their front office, but then again, if a VP of Player Personnel has an opportunity to get a GM job, they may be willing to make the jump. Just don't know if a divisional rival would be willing to let a member of their front office go to someone within the division, especially if that front office member is a very valuable piece.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;1212467]Eric Schaeffer for Team President, Joe Douglas for GM (currently Eagles VP of Player Personnel), John DeFilippo for Head Coach (currently Vikings offensive coordinator, previously QB coach of the Eagles)[/QUOTE]Kyle Smith?

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Anybody fired yet?

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1212473]Anybody fired yet?[/quote]

no but we know it will happen come dec 31

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1212474]no but we know it will happen come dec 31[/QUOTE]



I thought for sure we’d wake to some firings today, but the day is still young too


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I want Doug Williams and Eric Shaffer running the front office...there's mention of Kyle Smith....he has been in charge of College personnel for ten years...and there's talk of promoting him to GM...I don't want anyone in that front office that's been there for 10 years....so Smith should be terminated along with that idiot Allen..

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Murphy handed McCarthy his pink slip right after the game against Arizona. This is obviously a systemic failure from the top. I have zero confidence that Dan can hire a competent GM and coach. There is a failure to develop the teams identity from year to year and fans and media are constantly left speculating as to what the teams expectations are.

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[QUOTE=REDSKINS4ever;1212478]I want Doug Williams and Eric Shaffer running the front office...there's mention of Kyle Smith....he has been in charge of College personnel for ten years...and there's talk of promoting him to GM...I don't want anyone in that front office that's been there for 10 years....so Smith should be terminated along with that idiot Allen..[/QUOTE]



Smith has only been in his current role for 2 years



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[quote=metalskins;1212470]I haven't really thought much about Joe Douglas. That's an interesting call. I'm thinking the Eagles probably don't want to have much disruption in their front office, but then again, if a VP of Player Personnel has an opportunity to get a GM job, they may be willing to make the jump. Just don't know if a divisional rival would be willing to let a member of their front office go to someone within the division, especially if that front office member is a very valuable piece.[/quote]

They wouldn't stand in the way of someone getting a promotion opportunity. Remember Howie Roseman is the GM there right now, Douglas is not the top personnel guy. But he deserves to be somewhere. Very highly thought of. Grew up in the Ravens organization under Newsome.

[url]http://www2.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/joe-douglas-the-eagles-top-scout-has-climbed-the-ranks-to-become-one-of-the-nfls-top-talent-evaluators-20180423.html[/url]

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1212472]Kyle Smith?

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Trying to look for a reason why I should love Kyle Smith and I'm struggling to find it. Tim Settle looks promising, and Guice fell into our laps in the 2nd round and I think should be a steal over time. Aside from that, what did his draft get us?

I'm happy with Payne but you should be happy with the 13th overall pick.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1212472]Kyle Smith?

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I also have a problem going with anybody who's been part of the football operation this year. There's value in cleaning it all out and starting fresh, new mentality and new ideas all around.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;1212555]They wouldn't stand in the way of someone getting a promotion opportunity. Remember Howie Roseman is the GM there right now, Douglas is not the top personnel guy. But he deserves to be somewhere. Very highly thought of. Grew up in the Ravens organization under Newsome.



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Good point. I’m on board with anyone who will improve the team.


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[QUOTE=Schneed10;1212560]I also have a problem going with anybody who's been part of the football operation this year. There's value in cleaning it all out and starting fresh, new mentality and new ideas all around.[/QUOTE]With that logic we should have passed on McVay.

Not saying your wrong but old sayings are old for a reason.

Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

Drafts are really difficult to assess after 75%of one season.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1212571]With that logic we should have passed on McVay.

Not saying your wrong but old sayings are old for a reason.

Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

Drafts are really difficult to assess after 75%of one season.

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You said it yourself, Drafts are really difficult to assess after 13 games.
Smith has 1 draft as the head of college scouting. He has a popular name but how can you assess anything he's done?

McVay had 3 seasons as OC.
His last season as OC and Play caller, they ranked 3rd in the NFL in yards per game.

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I like that he is a younger guy. Fuck this ole boys league hiring stuff. Tried it, doesn't work. I'd like to give him a shot.

Same with the HC, fuck the offensive best friend coach stuff, give me Kris Richard or some other young defensive coach.

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[QUOTE=jamf;1212574]You said it yourself, Drafts are really difficult to assess after 13 games.
Smith has 1 draft as the head of college scouting. He has a popular name but how can you assess anything he's done?

McVay had 3 seasons as OC.
His last season as OC and Play caller, they ranked 3rd in the NFL in yards per game.[/QUOTE]That's in line with what a prodigy is.

Brilliant and new.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1212580]That's in line with what a prodigy is.

Brilliant and new.

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What's been extraordinary about this prodigy so far?

Out of his first 4 picks, 3 of them have more injuries than games started(Guice, Christian, Apke).

I like Payne and Guice picks but this isn't extraordinary.