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Schneed10 02-27-2019 10:51 AM

Redskins Salary Cap Status 2019
 
In advance of free agency season here's the look at the Redskins salary cap. OverTheCap continues to have terrific salary cap data available and when you read through it, some fairly obvious moves present themselves. This thread is equal parts a summary of where the cap stands today, and a list of the moves the team is likely to make to manage their cap flexibility.

As the team makes moves I'll try to keep this updated to reflect the actual impact on the cap. Last updated April 1, 5:00 PM.

[B]Redskins Cap Space Entering 2019: $16.2M[/B]

[U]Moves Made[/U]
Signed Landon Collins ($4.0M)
Acquired Case Keenum ($3.5M)
Release Zach Brown $5.75M
Release Stacy McGee $2.3M
Signed Adrian Peterson ($2.5M)
Signed Ereck Flowers ($3.2M)
Signed Dominique Rodgers Cromartie ($0.6M)
Traded for and Extended Eli Manning ($24.0M)
Four Net Player Removed from 51 $2.4M

[B]Redskins Cap Space - Current ($11.9M)[/B]

[U]Moves Likely to be Made:[/U][INDENT]Sign Brandon Scherff to a contract extension $5.0M [I]estimated[/I]
Net Cap Impact of Signing Rookie Class ($4.0M) [I]estimated[/I][/INDENT]
[B]Available Remaining Cap Space for Free Agency - including Likely Moves: $1.1M[/B]

[U]Other Potential Moves[/U]
I'm not sure these are likely. But for your reference here's the potential impact.
[INDENT]Release Mason Foster $4.0M
Trade or Release Jordan Reed $6.07M
Release Vernon Davis $4.97M
Release Josh Norman $8.5M
[/INDENT]

skinsfan69 02-27-2019 11:07 AM

Re: Redskins Salary Cap Status 2019
 
Norman has turned out to be just another bad signing by this organization. But if he's released then that leaves a huge hole. I'd try and get another year out of him.

Mason Foster at 4 million is gone. We could get a mid rounder that could play better and would obviously be cheaper.

I don't think we can get rid of both TE's. But one has to go and my guess is it's Davis at 5 million. We need to get a traditional rookie TE in the mix.

Schneed10 02-27-2019 12:22 PM

Re: Redskins Salary Cap Status 2019
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1219135]Norman has turned out to be just another bad signing by this organization. But if he's released then that leaves a huge hole. I'd try and get another year out of him.

Mason Foster at 4 million is gone. We could get a mid rounder that could play better and would obviously be cheaper.

I don't think we can get rid of both TE's. But one has to go and my guess is it's Davis at 5 million. We need to get a traditional rookie TE in the mix.[/quote]

With Mason it's a matter of do you want to turn over both middle LB spots at the same time? I look at Zach as a certain goner - they had Hamilton mixing in there for playing time at the end of the season. Then you have Reuben Foster as the seeming heir to the other spot but can you take Mason off the roster before you know that Reuben Foster won't be suspended by the NFL?

Big risk.

Can def see your point about the TE spot. I just think Gruden loves both Reed and Davis, so I don't see them doing that.

skinsfaninok 02-27-2019 12:36 PM

Re: Redskins Salary Cap Status 2019
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1219135]Norman has turned out to be just another bad signing by this organization. But if he's released then that leaves a huge hole. I'd try and get another year out of him.

Mason Foster at 4 million is gone. We could get a mid rounder that could play better and would obviously be cheaper.

I don't think we can get rid of both TE's. But one has to go and my guess is it's Davis at 5 million. We need to get a traditional rookie TE in the mix.[/quote]

I disagree on JNO, he has not been a bad signing. He's been a good player in DC, no he's not Champ Bailey but not many guys are. We have to let Reed walk, dude is made of glass and it would free up space. Draft a TE and go from there. It's a deep class.

skinsfaninok 02-27-2019 12:37 PM

Re: Redskins Salary Cap Status 2019
 
Zach Brown , Jordan Reed , P Smith. Let all these guys walk.

skinsfan69 02-27-2019 12:41 PM

Re: Redskins Salary Cap Status 2019
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1219138]I disagree on JNO, he has not been a bad signing. He's been a good player in DC, no he's not Champ Bailey but not many guys are. We have to let Reed walk, dude is made of glass and it would free up space. Draft a TE and go from there. It's a deep class.[/quote]

For the amount he has been paid vs. the on field production, I'd say it wasn't a good one. Bad may be stretching it. He's just not a top corner yet he's paid like one. But like I said I think we need him cause the depth at corner is thin to say the least.

Ruhskins 02-27-2019 12:44 PM

Re: Redskins Salary Cap Status 2019
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1219138]I disagree on JNO, he has not been a bad signing. He's been a good player in DC, no he's not Champ Bailey but not many guys are. We have to let Reed walk, dude is made of glass and it would free up space. Draft a TE and go from there. It's a deep class.[/quote]

JNo has been a solid free agent signing. Had Dunbar stayed healthy last season, we would have had a very good secondary and things would have been different.

I think they are going to ask him to restructure his contract. It doesn't make sense to open yet another hole on the defense IMO.

Buffalo Bob 02-27-2019 12:51 PM

Re: Redskins Salary Cap Status 2019
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1219139]Zach Brown , Jordan Reed , P Smith. Let all these guys walk.[/quote]

I think you need to add Vernon "Hands of Stone" Davis to that list.

skinsfaninok 02-27-2019 12:54 PM

Re: Redskins Salary Cap Status 2019
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1219142]JNo has been a solid free agent signing. Had Dunbar stayed healthy last season, we would have had a very good secondary and things would have been different.

I think they are going to ask him to restructure his contract. It doesn't make sense to open yet another hole on the defense IMO.[/quote]

Exactly, if they let him walk you have to replace the guy.. He's still a top 20 CB. Not easy to replace

Chico23231 02-27-2019 02:27 PM

Re: Redskins Salary Cap Status 2019
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1219142]JNo has been a solid free agent signing. Had Dunbar stayed healthy last season, we would have had a very good secondary and things would have been different.

I think they are going to ask him to restructure his contract. It doesn't make sense to open yet another hole on the defense IMO.[/quote]

Agree with this. Norman has been solid but is he worth the cap number right now? Certainly not, but I’m thinking along with you that he should be asked to restructure.

Jordan Reed I’d like to move on from in a trade..but if not, I’d hope he would be another restructure candidate as well.



Vernon Davis, Stacy, Zach B all are most likely cut.

Redskins247 02-27-2019 03:33 PM

Re: Redskins Salary Cap Status 2019
 
[quote=Chico23231;1219147]Agree with this. Norman has been solid but is he worth the cap number right now? Certainly not, but I’m thinking along with you that [B]he should be asked to restructure[/B].

Jordan Reed I’d like to move on from in a trade..but if not, I’d hope he would be another restructure candidate as well.



Vernon Davis, Stacy, Zach B all are most likely cut.[/quote]

This. Norman and his agent both know he's not making that kind of money anywhere else in the league next season, so I would hope he would restructure.

BigHairedAristocrat 02-27-2019 03:34 PM

Re: Redskins Salary Cap Status 2019
 
Agree restructuring Norman would be ideal.

Cutting him certainly doesn't make any sense. He has a 14.5M salary but we'd only free up 8.5M by cutting him. Do we think we can sign a CB better than Norman for less than 8.5M? Good FA CBs want a lot of money. And, unless we want to waste our 1st round pick on a CB when we already have a half dozen other more pressing needs, that doesn't make much sense either.

He's still only 31 and likely has another 4 years or so left as an above-average starting CB. And for whatever reason, Norman really seems to like it here. Offering him an extension where we essentially guarantee the remaining money on his contract (he's due close to 30M of the next 2 years, but no one would pay him the 15M he's due next year on the open market) and extend him a couple years might make sense for both sides.

MTK 02-27-2019 03:48 PM

Re: Redskins Salary Cap Status 2019
 
I think Mason is back, ZB definitely gone


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GridIron26 02-28-2019 09:04 AM

Re: Redskins Salary Cap Status 2019
 
[quote=Schneed10;1219134]
[B]Redskins Cap Space Entering 2019: $17.7M[/B]

Moves Likely to be Made:[INDENT]Sign Brandon Scherff to a contract extension $5.0M [I]estimated[/I]
Release Zach Brown $5.75M
Release Stacy McGee $2.3M
Two Players Move into Top 51 ($1.2M)
Net Cap Impact of Signing Rookie Class ($4.0M) [I]estimated[/I][/INDENT]
[B]Available Cap Space for Free Agency - including Likely Moves: $25.6M[/B]

[U]Other Potential Moves[/U]
I'm not sure these are likely. But for your reference here's the potential impact.
[INDENT]Release Mason Foster $4.0M
Trade or Release Jordan Reed $6.07M
Release Vernon Davis $4.97M
Release Josh Norman $8.5M
Tender to Maurice Harris - RFA ($1.9M)
[/INDENT][/quote]

Brown and McGee will be gone. Brown - we already have a couple players who can take Brown's spot. McGee is a rotational player and we can easily replace him with a late round pick, largely thanks to Tomsula.

I don't see Redskins cutting Norman, Foster, and Reed. I agree with few, the Norman signing wasn't bad although, we definitely overpaid for him but then that was the market price for a good CB. Norman have had positive impact on our defense - remember what the defense was like when Norman had to miss few games due to rib injury? Redskins definitely should restructure his contract though. Foster - we do not have enough ILBs who can replace both Brown and Foster, so I don't see Redskins releasing Foster unless they draft a ILB who can start immediately. Reed - I have mixed feelings about Reed as I really love him and what he brings to the offense but like we all know, he is not a player who we can expect to play full season.. Gruden loves Reed and since this season is likely last chance for Gruden to prove his worth, I can see Gruden wanting to keep Reed to help his offense.

Davis - I have always loved him since he came out from U of MD. Davis had a bad year last year with several key drops. My best guess is Redskins plan to keep Davis for now and if they happen to draft a TE who can replace Davis then they will cut him. If not then we will keep him.

SFREDSKIN 02-28-2019 09:58 AM

Re: Redskins Salary Cap Status 2019
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1219138]I disagree on JNO, he has not been a bad signing. He's been a good player in DC, no he's not Champ Bailey but not many guys are. We have to let Reed walk, dude is made of glass and it would free up space. Draft a TE and go from there. It's a deep class.[/quote]

He’s been average and getting paid for elite playing, bad signing.

FrenchSkin 02-28-2019 06:42 PM

Re: Redskins Salary Cap Status 2019
 
[quote=Schneed10;1219134]In advance of free agency season here's the look at the Redskins salary cap. OverTheCap continues to have terrific salary cap data available and when you read through it, some fairly obvious moves present themselves. This thread is equal parts a summary of where the cap stands today, and a list of the moves the team is likely to make to manage their cap flexibility.

As the team makes moves I'll try to keep this updated to reflect the actual impact on the cap.

[B]Redskins Cap Space Entering 2019: $17.7M[/B]

Moves Likely to be Made:[INDENT]Sign Brandon Scherff to a contract extension $5.0M [I]estimated[/I]
Release Zach Brown $5.75M
Release Stacy McGee $2.3M
Two Players Move into Top 51 ($1.2M)
Net Cap Impact of Signing Rookie Class ($4.0M) [I]estimated[/I][/INDENT]
[B]Available Cap Space for Free Agency - including Likely Moves: $25.6M[/B]

[U]Other Potential Moves[/U]
I'm not sure these are likely. But for your reference here's the potential impact.
[INDENT]Release Mason Foster $4.0M
Trade or Release Jordan Reed $6.07M
Release Vernon Davis $4.97M
Release Josh Norman $8.5M
Tender to Maurice Harris - RFA ($1.9M)
[/INDENT][/quote]


Yeah despite Alex Smith's contract [I][U]we're far from cap hell[/U][/I].

All your likely moves make sense, wouldn't add anything.

I thought after the Instagram snafu [I]Foster was a lock to be cut[/I], but if the "it was my cousin" thing is enough to put it past, I'm fine with it, I've said many times he's an [I]underrated player[/I], he has ups and downs but on a good day he's [I]extremely valuable[/I].

In my book [I][U]Norman stays too[/U][/I], definitely overpriced but he's played way better than most think IMHO.

I would be in favor of [I][U]cutting Vernon Davis[/U][/I], I'll take the [I]4.9M[/I] over an aging TE that [I][U]can't block[/U] [/I]and had several [I][U]crucifying drops[/U][/I] last season.

[B][U]Moving forward:[/U][/B]

I honestly [I]wouldn't spend too much in FA[/I], bringing [U]Nsekhe, Kouandjio and Johnathan Cooper[/U] should be cheap priorities. A lot of veterans G are available, [I][U]get a proven one to start at LG[/U][/I].

We also need a WR, obviously, I'd love to bring [I][U]Crowder back, but at what price [/U][/I]?
This staff is going to want to be competitive now, so they'll probably try to find a #1, which we desperately need, but [I][U]I hope they don't overspend[/U][/I], because the list of UFA WRs is not exactly wowing me... (plus I hope they're gone next year so we can start to hope again).

Schneed10 03-15-2019 08:30 AM

Re: Redskins Salary Cap Status 2019
 
Original post updated as of today at 8:30, reflecting the Keenum trade, Collins signing, Peterson resigning, Zach Brown release, and Stacey McGee release.

Still enough space remaining to do something at the other safety spot, left guard, and as long as they renegotiate Scherff then they could fit in a big WR acquisition if they so choose.

Schneed10 03-15-2019 11:36 AM

Re: Redskins Salary Cap Status 2019
 
If you could cut Norman and instead sign Ronald Darby and Tre Boston, would you?

skinsfaninok 03-15-2019 11:57 AM

Re: Redskins Salary Cap Status 2019
 
[quote=Schneed10;1220231]If you could cut Norman and instead sign Ronald Darby and Tre Boston, would you?[/quote]

No brainer yes. Josh is on the decline, as his grades have reflected it.

FrenchSkin 03-15-2019 12:04 PM

Re: Redskins Salary Cap Status 2019
 
[quote=Schneed10;1220231]If you could cut Norman and instead sign Ronald Darby and Tre Boston, would you?[/quote]

If we were to be sure to land these 2 it would seem like a no brainer, given the respective ages of these 3 players.
But I'd cut VD and try to see what I can do with the 20M we'd then have available before cutting one of our best players.

Chico23231 03-15-2019 12:15 PM

Re: Redskins Salary Cap Status 2019
 
[quote=Schneed10;1220231]If you could cut Norman and instead sign Ronald Darby and Tre Boston, would you?[/quote]

I would

REDSKINS4ever 03-17-2019 02:54 PM

Re: Redskins Salary Cap Status 2019
 
To free up more cap space it wouldn't be surprising if they cut or trade Jordan Reed....a TE undrafted with Antonio Gates type of ability can be found if the scouts look hard enough and Gates was undrafted.

RobH4413 03-17-2019 04:10 PM

Re: Redskins Salary Cap Status 2019
 
[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1220320]To free up more cap space it wouldn't be surprising if they cut or trade Jordan Reed....a TE undrafted with Antonio Gates type of ability can be found if the scouts look hard enough and Gates was undrafted.[/quote]

Ummmm. Wut? We are not going to find an Antonio Gates undrafted. Sorry

DYoungJelly 03-17-2019 04:51 PM

Re: Redskins Salary Cap Status 2019
 
[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1220320]To free up more cap space it wouldn't be surprising if they cut or trade Jordan Reed....a TE undrafted with Antonio Gates type of ability can be found if the scouts look hard enough and Gates was undrafted.[/quote]

Totally agree.

I am only curious as to why you would limit finding undrafted HOF players to the TE position.

sdskinsfan2001 03-17-2019 07:43 PM

Re: Redskins Salary Cap Status 2019
 
I would 100% cut Reed or Davis, bump Sprinkle up the depth chart, and draft a TE.

If I'm in charge I'm 100% drafting a TE. And it if Hockerson is available I'd be ok doing it in the 1st.

Buffalo Bob 03-17-2019 07:52 PM

Re: Redskins Salary Cap Status 2019
 
[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1220320]To free up more cap space it wouldn't be surprising if they cut or trade Jordan Reed....a TE undrafted with Antonio Gates type of ability can be found if the scouts look hard enough and Gates was undrafted.[/quote]


[quote=RobH4413;1220323]Ummmm. Wut? [B]We are not going to find an Antonio Gates undrafted. [/B]Sorry[/quote]

You aren't finding anyone who is going to give up anything of value for Jordan "made of glass" Reed, either.

In every season he has missed two or more games due to injury and in countless others played at way less than 100%. He probably is only physically able to make a strong impact in an average of 8 games a year career wise. His health is not going to magically improve as he pushes 30. With his contract you would be lucky to get a bag of day old doughnuts for him. He needs to be cut.

Defensewins 03-17-2019 09:04 PM

Re: Redskins Salary Cap Status 2019
 
[quote=Buffalo Bob;1220332]You aren't finding anyone who is going to give up anything of value for Jordan "made of glass" Reed, either.

In every season he has missed two or more games due to injury and in countless others played at way less than 100%. He probably is only physically able to make a strong impact in an average of 8 games a year career wise. His health is not going to magically improve as he pushes 30. With his contract you would be lucky to get a bag of day old doughnuts for him. He needs to be cut.[/quote]

Yes, it is time to cut Jordan "I cannot make it through training camp" Reed.
After looking at his NFL career stats I am blown away how unspectacular they are. According to over the cap Reed has a 2019 cap number of $9,674,125
5.1% of our cap
This is no bullshit but here is Jordan Reed NFL career [B][U]starts[/U][/B] by year and TD production:
2013 4 starts 3 TD's
2014 2 starts 0 TD's
2015 9 starts 11 TD's
2016 8 starts 6 TD's
2017 6 starts 2 TD's
2018 8 starts 2 TD's

Hey PFF experts, do these look like stats of a someone going to cost our cap [B][U]$9,674,125[/U][/B] hit this year?
Gruden needs to take off his blinders.

Irrefutable 03-17-2019 09:30 PM

Re: Redskins Salary Cap Status 2019
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1220331]I would 100% cut Reed or Davis, bump Sprinkle up the depth chart, and draft a TE.

If I'm in charge I'm 100% drafting a TE. And it if Hockerson is available I'd be ok doing it in the 1st.[/quote]

I agree 100%. They need receiving threats and a TE that can block and catch would be a solid pick.

It looks like there are several good TEs, but none that can block and catch like Hockenson.

RobH4413 03-17-2019 10:15 PM

Re: Redskins Salary Cap Status 2019
 
[quote=Buffalo Bob;1220332]You aren't finding anyone who is going to give up anything of value for Jordan "made of glass" Reed, either.

In every season he has missed two or more games due to injury and in countless others played at way less than 100%. He probably is only physically able to make a strong impact in an average of 8 games a year career wise. His health is not going to magically improve as he pushes 30. With his contract you would be lucky to get a bag of day old doughnuts for him. He needs to be cut.[/quote]

We definitely need a TE. Where I'm lost is how we are going to find the solution as an undrafted FA.

REDSKINS4ever 03-18-2019 01:00 AM

Re: Redskins Salary Cap Status 2019
 
[quote=DYoungJelly;1220324]Totally agree.

I am only curious as to why you would limit finding undrafted HOF players to the TE position.[/quote]

A good scout does his homework and his research.....this is how teams find a Shannon Sharpe in the 7th round....this how they find undrafted gems like London Fletcher, Tony Romo, and Victor Cruz.....it's not about placing limits....it's about intense scouting.

REDSKINS4ever 03-18-2019 01:03 AM

Re: Redskins Salary Cap Status 2019
 
[quote=Buffalo Bob;1220332]You aren't finding anyone who is going to give up anything of value for Jordan "made of glass" Reed, either.

In every season he has missed two or more games due to injury and in countless others played at way less than 100%. He probably is only physically able to make a strong impact in an average of 8 games a year career wise. His health is not going to magically improve as he pushes 30. With his contract you would be lucky to get a bag of day old doughnuts for him. He needs to be cut.[/quote]

He's worth something because of his playmaking ability....and you're exactly right in that the man has been plagued by injuries during his entire career....but depending what the Redskins would be seeking should they shop Reed the production slightly outweighs him being prone to injury

Irrefutable 03-18-2019 06:44 AM

Re: Redskins Salary Cap Status 2019
 
[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1220338]He's worth something because of his playmaking ability....and you're exactly right in that the man has been plagued by injuries during his entire career....but depending what the Redskins would be seeking should they shop Reed the production slightly outweighs him being prone to injury[/quote]

Reed's value is minimized by his contract of $9+ million per year for 3 years

[url]https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washington-redskins/jordan-reed-12366/[/url]

REDSKINS4ever 03-18-2019 07:23 AM

Re: Redskins Salary Cap Status 2019
 
[quote=Irrefutable;1220339]Reed's value is minimized by his contract of $9+ million per year for 3 years

[url]https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washington-redskins/jordan-reed-12366/[/url][/quote]

Well they would have to release him then....unless the would be team they trade him to either reworks his contract or takes over his current contract....there has to be at least one team that would make this trade.

Schneed10 03-18-2019 08:56 AM

Re: Redskins Salary Cap Status 2019
 
[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1220340]Well they would have to release him then....unless the would be team they trade him to either reworks his contract or takes over his current contract....there has to be at least one team that would make this trade.[/quote]

Desean Jackson carried a cap hit of ~$9M with the Bucs, and they just traded him and a 7th for a 6th rounder.

People, stop with this notion that Jordan Reed is worth anything in a trade. For F's sakes.

skinsfaninok 03-18-2019 08:59 AM

Re: Redskins Salary Cap Status 2019
 
[quote=Schneed10;1220347]Desean Jackson carried a cap hit of ~$9M with the Bucs, and they just traded him and a 7th for a 6th rounder.

People, stop with this notion that Jordan Reed is worth anything in a trade. For F's sakes.[/quote]

I'm really intrigued by Noah Fant TE from Iowa, dude is a stud. I'd love to replace Reed this yr.

Buffalo Bob 03-18-2019 10:25 AM

Re: Redskins Salary Cap Status 2019
 
[quote=Irrefutable;1220339]Reed's value is minimized by his contract of $9+ million per year for 3 years

[url]https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washington-redskins/jordan-reed-12366/[/url][/quote]

Since he is either in street clothes or playing obviously dinged up half the time that is like paying a tight end who can't block $18 mil a year, who wants that?

Buffalo Bob 03-18-2019 10:28 AM

Re: Redskins Salary Cap Status 2019
 
[quote=Schneed10;1220347]Desean Jackson carried a cap hit of ~$9M with the Bucs, and they just traded him and a 7th for a 6th rounder.

People, stop with this notion that Jordan Reed is worth anything in a trade. For F's sakes.[/quote]

D-Jax while also with an injury history is still more reliable than Reed and still has speed to stretch a defense.

Schneed10 03-18-2019 10:33 AM

Re: Redskins Salary Cap Status 2019
 
[quote=Buffalo Bob;1220356]D-Jax while also with an injury history is still more reliable than Reed and still has speed to stretch a defense.[/quote]

Exactly. That was my point. He's more reliable than Reed at a similar price point, and even he was traded only for the right to swap a 7th into a 6th.

Reed is a cut or keep player. He can't be traded.

Defensewins 03-18-2019 04:12 PM

Re: Redskins Salary Cap Status 2019
 
Cut Reed now!
How on earth can our FO think Reed is worth $9.6 million dollar hit on our cap is fucking crazy. Even when healthy his production is not worth it ($9.6M).
What is wrong with Allen and Gruden? Are they stupid?

MTK 03-18-2019 05:28 PM

Re: Redskins Salary Cap Status 2019
 
Reed isn’t going anywhere unless we greatly improve our receivers, right now he’s easily our best one


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