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Camp is a little over a week away for the Skins, lets see some player predictions for who we think wins certain jobs and who really takes a leap forward this season.

For me I'm going to start with QB - I truly believe Dwayne Haskins wins the job with his pure leadership skills and smarts of the game, not to mention he will WOW the coaching staff with his elite arm talent.

The one player I have taking a leap forward this year and making a run at being a top tier Defensive player is Jon Allen, who after missing most of his rookie year played all 16 games last season.

Accounting for 61 tackles, eight sacks and 35 total pressures (20 hurries).

Allen was also awesome in run defense only missing 4 tackles all season.

What do you guys say?

HTTR

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Leap forward candidate, if you call it that, Morgan Moses. I don't think he's nearly as bad as he played last year, definite bounce back candidate. Bounce back is probably the better word than leap forward.

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[quote=Schneed10;1225379]Leap forward candidate, if you call it that, Morgan Moses. I don't think he's nearly as bad as he played last year, definite bounce back candidate. Bounce back is probably the better word than leap forward.[/quote]

I'd love for that to happen and I agree, he's really good when healthy

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1. Kevin O'Connell will bring the offense forward and we will see improvements regardless who is QB

2. We will have a break-out WR performance from one of the young guys

3. Defense will finish in top 10 in the league

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[quote=Chico23231;1225381]1. Kevin O'Connell will bring the offense forward and we will see improvements regardless who is QB

2. We will have a break-out WR performance from one of the young guys

3. Defense will finish in top 10 in the league[/quote]

That right there is a formula for 10-6, with the last factor being whether Keenum/Haskins/McCoy will limit turnovers enough for those other factors to carry the day. Are you there on that one too?

That's my lone hangup, I agree on your 3. I think it's Trey Quinn and McLaurin that make the impact at WR in a spread-it-around offense. But McCoy and Keenum have always been turnover prone. I worry that's what stops us from bouncing back to health and playing well enough to make the playoffs.

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[quote=Schneed10;1225379]Leap forward candidate, if you call it that, Morgan Moses. I don't think he's nearly as bad as he played last year, definite bounce back candidate. Bounce back is probably the better word than leap forward.[/quote]



[quote=skinsfaninok;1225380]I'd love for that to happen and I agree,[B] he's really good when healthy[/B][/quote]


Unfortunately that is too common a phrase due to having too many players that frequently are injured.

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[quote=Schneed10;1225382]That right there is a formula for 10-6, with the last factor being whether Keenum/Haskins/McCoy will [B]limit turnovers [/B]enough for those other factors to carry the day. Are you there on that one too?

That's my lone hangup, I agree on your 3. I think it's Trey Quinn and McLaurin that make the impact at WR in a spread-it-around offense. But McCoy and Keenum have always been turnover prone. I worry that's what stops us from bouncing back to health and playing well enough to make the playoffs.[/quote]

turnovers are crucial for sure...but I really think O'Connell understands some priorities in order to "fix" the Offense. Here what I would do:

1. Use the same formation to run multiple plays and remove tendencies from play strategy
2. Throw more on first down. Yes, Im a "run the damn ball" type dude BUT Jay did something like run the ball 68-70 % on first down, that's way too much and lead to a terrible 1st down yardage success which cause too many 2nd and longs.
3. Bring back play action game. We ran the ball fairly well last year, but our play action game was severely lacking. Cousins was a really good play action QB...I just googled Case Keenum +play action...look what I found from his Minnesota playoff year:

[url]https://www.pff.com/news/fantasy-football-metrics-that-matter-quarterbacks-on-play-action[/url]

Case Keenum – Keenum showed the largest discrepancy in play-action passer rating (117.9) vs. non-play-action passer rating (88.2). This could be a legitimate concern for him in Denver. Minnesota ranked second in play-action passes last season, while Denver ranked 11th. Denver has a new offensive coordinator in Bill Musgrave, but the Oakland Raiders in 2016 (Musgrave’s last season as an offensive coordinator) attempted even fewer (32 less) play-action passes than Denver did last season, with the seventh-fewest play-action attempts that year.

Who lead the league in Play Action QB Rating that same year? Cousins in Washington with a 124.4%!!!! Keenum was fifth highest rating in league.

Bro, Grudan, bring back the Play action!!!!!!!

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Compelling case. Of course Keenum had Diggs and Thielen, and we... don't.

But the strategy for the Skins should be clear, pound the rock and work the play action. You just hope the WRs get open enough often enough to keep the chains moving, and you don't end up in situations where Keenum (or McCoy or Haskins) have to force the issue because that's when turnovers will come.

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[quote=Schneed10;1225393]Compelling case. Of course Keenum had Diggs and Thielen, and we... don't.

But the strategy for the Skins should be clear, pound the rock and work the play action. You just hope the WRs get open enough often enough to keep the chains moving, and you don't end up in situations where Keenum (or McCoy or Haskins) have to force the issue because that's when turnovers will come.[/quote]

Something else which probably derailed a play action pass attack last year - Oline injuries.

That extra 1 second on a longer developing play was simply too much on a wrecked, injured Oline.

Glad with drafted some Interior Depth Bigly Uglies and we get back Schreff, healthy Moses and Trent. Clean health slate works

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Can we please just get through a season without being absolutely decimated by injuries? I really can't do a 3rd straight year of watching this shit.

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[quote=MTK;1225395]Can we please just get through a season without being absolutely decimated by injuries? I really can't do a 3rd straight year of watching this shit.[/quote]

I love BMitch's response to this teams injuries.. "Suck it up and play football"

Yeah some guys are really injured but there are also guys that are Nicked up and sit the games out. Man up and play. I wish we had more players like Brian

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1225396]I love BMitch's response to this teams injuries.. "Suck it up and play football"

Yeah some guys are really injured but there are also guys that are Nicked up and sit the games out. Man up and play. I wish we had more players like Brian[/quote]

Well, we all saw how terrible Dunbar's game was when he was "sucking it up" trying to play injured.

People need to stop trying to downplay injuries or act like they can be predicted or they were somebody's fault. Injuries have decimated the team and what has happened is completely outside of the ordinary.

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[quote=MTK;1225395]Can we please just get through a season without being absolutely decimated by injuries? I really can't do a 3rd straight year of watching this shit.[/quote]

Yeah dude. I feel this. I not only can't watch it, I'm tired of discussing it.

Lightning struck twice. I don't think it will strike a third. Except for Jordan Reed, a turf monster will hit him up the ass with a bolt of lightning in preseason week 3.

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[quote=MTK;1225395]Can we please just get through a season without being absolutely decimated by injuries? I really can't do a 3rd straight year of watching this shit.[/quote]

Didn't the Redskins bring in outside consultants to try to determine the root cause of all the injuries? Whatever happened with that?

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1225406]Didn't the Redskins bring in outside consultants to try to determine the root cause of all the injuries? Whatever happened with that?[/quote]

According to Gruden, they looked at it, studied it, and said wow guys, that's too bad.

They concluded it was a heaping pile of bad luck hitting them all at once.

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I think Quinn is going to stay healthy and have a breakout season at WR with Haskins as the QB.

I also want to see a LOT MORE play actions and a lot LESS predictability on first down. Running for most of the first downs last year was just a waste because teams knew it was coming. I'm glad Jay isn't calling the plays this year - we'll be better for it.

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[quote=Chico23231;1225391]turnovers are crucial for sure...but I really think O'Connell understands some priorities in order to "fix" the Offense. Here what I would do:

1. Use the same formation to run multiple plays and remove tendencies from play strategy
2. Throw more on first down. Yes, Im a "run the damn ball" type dude BUT Jay did something like run the ball 68-70 % on first down, that's way too much and lead to a terrible 1st down yardage success which cause too many 2nd and longs.
3.[B] Bring back play action game. We ran the ball fairly well last year, but our play action game was severely lacking.[/B] Cousins was a really good play action QB...I just googled Case Keenum +play action...look what I found from his Minnesota playoff year:

[url]https://www.pff.com/news/fantasy-football-metrics-that-matter-quarterbacks-on-play-action[/url]

Case Keenum – Keenum showed the largest discrepancy in play-action passer rating (117.9) vs. non-play-action passer rating (88.2). This could be a legitimate concern for him in Denver. Minnesota ranked second in play-action passes last season, while Denver ranked 11th. Denver has a new offensive coordinator in Bill Musgrave, but the Oakland Raiders in 2016 (Musgrave’s last season as an offensive coordinator) attempted even fewer (32 less) play-action passes than Denver did last season, with the seventh-fewest play-action attempts that year.

Who lead the league in Play Action QB Rating that same year? Cousins in Washington with a 124.4%!!!! Keenum was fifth highest rating in league.

Bro, Grudan, bring back the Play action!!!!!!![/quote]

Interesting point. I also think, in order to break tendencies, play action should be used to throw some[I][U] short and medium passes[/U][/I]. I feel like every time we went play action last year we were trying to hit the home run... Can't work every time, especially when you don't have a true speed threat.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1225376]Camp is a little over a week away for the Skins, [B]lets see some player predictions for who we think wins certain jobs and who really takes a leap forward this season. [/B]

For me I'm going to start with QB - I truly believe Dwayne Haskins wins the job with his pure leadership skills and smarts of the game, not to mention he will WOW the coaching staff with his elite arm talent.

The one player I have taking a leap forward this year and making a run at being a top tier Defensive player is Jon Allen, who after missing most of his rookie year played all 16 games last season.

Accounting for 61 tackles, eight sacks and 35 total pressures (20 hurries).

Allen was also awesome in run defense only missing 4 tackles all season.

What do you guys say?

HTTR[/quote]

Not really a prediction but god do I hope [I][U]Wes Martin[/U][/I] wins the starting LG spot.

I'd also like [I][U]Sprinkle[/U][/I] to earn some more playing time, we need an hybrid TE that can block and catch.

On defense I hope [I][U]Montae Nicholson[/U][/I] can get back to what he was before his nasty concussion.

My prediction would be squad one rather than a player one: I think our [I][U]secondary can look amazing this season[/U][/I]. With an improved pass rush (Montez Sweat + inside pressure + M Reliable Kerrigan), don't tell me SS Collins - FS Evertt/Nicholson - CB Norman - CB Dunbar/Moreau - SlotCB Stroman/Moreland is not a great squad !

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Oh maybe-8-8 or 6-10,depends on injuries and coaching,Gruden can go brain dead at times.

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8-8

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1225441]Not really a prediction but god do I hope [I][U]Wes Martin[/U][/I] wins the starting LG spot.

I'd also like [I][U]Sprinkle[/U][/I] to earn some more playing time, we need an hybrid TE that can block and catch.

On defense I hope [I][U]Montae Nicholson[/U][/I] can get back to what he was before his nasty concussion.

My prediction would be squad one rather than a player one: I think our [I][U]secondary can look amazing this season[/U][/I]. With an improved pass rush (Montez Sweat + inside pressure + M Reliable Kerrigan), don't tell me SS Collins - FS Evertt/Nicholson - CB Norman - CB Dunbar/Moreau - SlotCB Stroman/Moreland is not a great squad ![/quote]

I don't see how Flowers wins LG.. I hope not

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1225441]Not really a prediction but god do I hope [I][U]Wes Martin[/U][/I] wins the starting LG spot.

I'd also like [I][U]Sprinkle[/U][/I] to earn some more playing time, we need an hybrid TE that can block and catch.

On defense I hope [I][U]Montae Nicholson[/U][/I] can get back to what he was before his nasty concussion.

My prediction would be squad one rather than a player one: I think our [I][U]secondary can look amazing this season[/U][/I]. With an improved pass rush (Montez Sweat + inside pressure + M Reliable Kerrigan), don't tell me SS Collins - FS Evertt/Nicholson - CB Norman - CB Dunbar/Moreau - SlotCB Stroman/Moreland is not a great squad ![/quote]

Im gonna be completely 100....The Defensive staff has zero excuses...NONE. The starters and depth on defense is fairly solid. Resources and draft capital have been used well. The D staff really needs to put it together.... I think Horton can really help overall with Staff leadership.

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If Haskins can come in and play at a good level, and the defense puts up a top 10 scoring season, this team could win 9-10 games. If those 2 do not happen, I don't see anything better than 7-9

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[quote=Chico23231;1225457]Im gonna be completely 100....The Defensive staff has zero excuses...NONE. The starters and depth on defense is fairly solid. Resources and draft capital have been used well. The D staff really needs to put it together.... I think Horton can really help overall with Staff leadership.[/quote]

Agreed. The only "weak spot" would be ILB. But I like Mason Foster on a good day, we haven't talked much about it but we signed Jon Bostic after the draft, veteran that knows the job, and SDH showed some nice flashes late in the season. With a solid front 4/5 in front of them, it should be ok.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1225396]I love BMitch's response to this teams injuries.. "Suck it up and play football"

Yeah some guys are really injured but there are also guys that are Nicked up and sit the games out. Man up and play. I wish we had more players like Brian[/quote]

Here's what I know. Reed, Moses, Trent and Thompson will be hurt or will be playing hurt. It's been that way for years so why is that going to change? They all play offense so maybe it's just time to replace these guys. I'd try and get one more year out of Trent, CT and Reed. After that it's time for some new blood.

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7-9 if Haskins starts from the beginning and maybe one more winning game if Case starts. If Keenum beats out Haskins in the pre-season and then starts from the first game, then we're going to find out why he is a journeyman QB.

I want to see Haskins start from the get-go to learn the NFL defenses by[B] playing[/B], not watching it from the sidelines.

the defense and the run game are going to help this team win games.

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[quote=Warthog;1225475]7-9 if Haskins starts from the beginning and maybe one more winning game if Case starts. If Keenum beats out Haskins in the pre-season and then starts from the first game, then we're going to find out why he is a journeyman QB.

I want to see Haskins start from the get-go to learn the NFL defenses by[B] playing[/B], not watching it from the sidelines.

the defense and the [B]run game[/B] are going to help this team win games.[/quote]

This won't happen without a solid passing game

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1225481]This won't happen without a solid passing game[/quote]

I agree. Some of the WR's are going to have to greatly improve their game and reach their potential with Crowder gone. I'm betting on Quinn as the guy to really do something at WR this season.

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Just can't see us winning more than 7 or 8 games.

If Colt starts, we go 8-8, because Colt will go out with injury early in the season and Case / Haskins will have to finish up the season.

If Case starts i think we go 7-9 or 8-8, at the point that we are mathematically out from the playoffs, Haskins takes over.

If Haskins starts from day one, I see anywhere between 4-6 wins.

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I say 6-10. We're going to struggle, especially on offense.

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The over/under at most shops is 6.5.

For all you 8-8 guys, this year would be a great opportunity to pay off your car or mortgage.

Only bet as much as you can afford to win!!

Prediction: 6-10

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Bet the over...

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If Haskins is going to start the majority of the games then I'd say 5-6 wins. And I'm fine with that as long as he's making progress. If we're going to win 6 to 8 games with Colt or Case then I'm not ok with that at all. To the point that I may tune it out.

The way the Redskins have handled the QB over the last several years makes me not care as much. It's flat out piss poor management. Cousins was such a massive fuck up; to let a QB in the prime of his career walk is un heard of. They have got to get it right with Haskins this time around.

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Before the draft, I had no excitement for this year.

But now, whatever QB is starting, is either winning games (hopefully Haskins), or we're losing and Haskins is getting starting experience, or we have bad start with Colt/Keenum and Haskins gets starts around mid season.

Basically this season is exciting because we got Haskins. And because we ripped the whole NFL off and got a top 10 player at the back end of 1st round.

Our 3 game window imo is 7-9 to 9-7.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1225523]I say 6-10. We're going to struggle, especially on offense.[/quote]

If everyone is healthy, It will be better than last yr

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I have a hard time understanding how we go worse than 7-9 honestly, unless decimated by injury again. There's a lot of talent coming back on the field on week 1.

I get the concerns at WR though. The ceiling will be 8-8 if we can't get a couple of the WRs to do some damage.

But I don't see lower than 7-9 because the defense sets up quite well and we still figure to run the ball well.

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[quote=Schneed10;1225533]I have a hard time understanding how we go worse than 7-9 honestly, unless decimated by injury again. There's a lot of talent coming back on the field on week 1.

I get the concerns at WR though. The ceiling will be 8-8 if we can't get a couple of the WRs to do some damage.

But I don't see lower than 7-9 because the defense sets up quite well and we still figure to run the ball well.[/quote]

Yeah I saw USA Todays lazy ass analysts of 3-13 LOLZ.. Fucking morons

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[quote=Schneed10;1225533]I have a hard time understanding how we go worse than 7-9 honestly, unless decimated by injury again. There's a lot of talent coming back on the field on week 1.

I get the concerns at WR though. The ceiling will be 8-8 if we can't get a couple of the WRs to do some damage.

But I don't see lower than 7-9 because the defense sets up quite well and we still figure to run the ball well.[/quote]

Agreed.

I feel like we tend to remember the [U]embarrassing losses more than the promising wins.[/U]
Yes we were publicly disgraced by the Giants (saw that first hand), and our D collapsed late against the Saints, the Falcons etc... but that same D also held the Bucs to 3 points, dominated Aaron Rodgers, suffocated Barquley in the first Giants game, limited Zeke to 33 yards in the 1st Cowboys game etc...

This team has talent.

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Looking at the schedule you could make a case for 10-11 wins. But it is the Skins.....7-9.