Why Are You More Conservative or Liberal?
 

I don't even relate to most Republicans in DC either, because they don't do enough for me as a conservative. But its still a 2 party system, so I vote Republican basically every time.

Why I'm conservative:

No. 1 by a mile above anything else: I'm against abortion. Not going to get in arguments about it here, but I am.

2. I want a flat tax or national sales tax.

3. We are a nation of laws. I believe in our sovereignty. People need to come here the right way.

4. I think our money is ours. The more we all keep, the better. Government uses our money terribly.

5. I love the 1st, 2nd, and 10th amendments. Especially the 10th. To me, it's the most important.

6. We have freedom of religion, not from religion.

7. I think our constitution is the 2nd best thing ever wrote by humans, after the bible.

There are more, but those are my big ones, and Republicans are closer to those than Democrats are.

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Sorry i havent responded here. I kept meaning to.

My deepest belief about government is laws should be made at the level closest to the people they affect. So nanny state and one size fits all laws that the federal government tries to enforce through the interstate commerce powers should all be banned. Federal government's tasks should be defense of American soil and borders.

Immigration should be by rules but far more relaxed then they are now. If you get here illegally then you should be gone.

Pot should be a local not federal issue and civil marriages shouldnt have gender restrictions.

I am a libertarian with a conservative leaning when it comes to fiscal policy. The best government is the government that maintains a civil peace through fair and balanced applications of laws, allows prosperity through capitalist methods, protects the borders and sea lanes, and keeps their nose out of everything else.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1225649]Sorry i havent responded here. I kept meaning to.

My deepest belief about government is laws should be made at the level closest to the people they affect. So nanny state and one size fits all laws that the federal government tries to enforce through the interstate commerce powers should all be banned. Federal government's tasks should be defense of American soil and borders.

Immigration should be by rules but far more relaxed then they are now. If you get here illegally then you should be gone.

Pot should be a local not federal issue and civil marriages shouldnt have gender restrictions.

I am a libertarian with a conservative leaning when it comes to fiscal policy. The best government is the government that maintains a civil peace through fair and balanced applications of laws, allows prosperity through capitalist methods, protects the borders and sea lanes, and keeps their nose out of everything else.

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I thought I was going to set a Warpath record for most views of a new thread without getting a response.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1225649]Sorry i havent responded here. I kept meaning to.

My deepest belief about government is laws should be made at the level closest to the people they affect. So nanny state and one size fits all laws that the federal government tries to enforce through the interstate commerce powers should all be banned. Federal government's tasks should be defense of American soil and borders.

Immigration should be by rules but far more relaxed then they are now. If you get here illegally then you should be gone.

[B]Pot should be a local not federal issue and civil marriages shouldnt have gender restrictions.[/B]

I am a libertarian with a conservative leaning when it comes to fiscal policy. The best government is the government that maintains a civil peace through fair and balanced applications of laws, allows prosperity through capitalist methods, protects the borders and sea lanes, and keeps their nose out of everything else.

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I agree with this 100%. Most issues should be state/local issues. The federal government is so far over extended past what it was founded to be.

The older I get, the more I become libertarian on military issues. I want to keep investing in technology, but I don't want our men and women stationed across the world in places they don't want us. We're not the world military police.

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Chris Rock sums up my feelings perfectly here:

[YT]Ux2z8CFVEMg[/YT]

Honestly he is right, if you automatically make a decision on where you stand before even understand position you are a fucking idiot. Well said Chris.

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I've read some interesting stuff about how we lean politically is more biological than we realize... not really a choice, just who we are. Makes sense.

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[quote=MTK;1225659]I've read some interesting stuff about how we lean politically is more biological than we realize... not really a choice, just who we are. Makes sense.[/quote]

I think they would have a case study with G1's brain.


I heard a little bout this awhile ago...call me skeptical.

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[quote=Chico23231;1225670]I think they would have a case study with G1's brain.


I heard a little bout this awhile ago...call me skeptical.[/quote]

No, I call you bias and a trump and Hillary lover.

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1225674]No, I call you bias and a trump and Hillary lover.[/QUOTE]I love me some Hillary
If she hadnt stolen the democratic superdelagates trump couldnt have stolen the election from her because he would have faced an electable democratic nominee.

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[quote=Giantone;1225674]No, I call you bias and a trump and Hillary lover.[/quote]

"Fellow scientists, what we have here is a brain of the only known woke progressive socialist conservative....*a unison shriek of horror from the group of scientists*..."who happens to also be a giants fan"...*a unison subtle 'ohhh" with a nodding in understanding the schizophrenia nature of the specimen*

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When you think about your core values, you can think about the two or three biggest things that bother to your core, things you just can't get right with.

For me it comes down to:

1) People who don't take accountability for their actions, or who make excuses for why they can't do something, bother me to my core and are not deserving of social services. The republicans are the side more willing to uphold these basic principles: you are worth what your abilities and hard work combine to allow you to garner on the market. Nobody owes you shit. Either earn your way or shut up. This is why, as much as I can't stand Donald Trump, I'd begrudgingly take him over Bernie Sanders if forced to make that choice.

2) People who use their power to take advantage of those not in power, whether through abuse of military social or economic might. I'm very hawkish and do believe that not just the United States, but all peace loving nations with military might should indeed be policing the world in any place where the citizens either can't afford to police themselves, or are oppressed militarily such that doing so is impossible. Of course, while in an ideal world I'd love to overthrow Kim Jong Un and free the people of North Korea, the threat to the United States is significant, and you'd need a hell of a plan to deal with China and Russia, so a level of practical thought has to come into play there.

3) And to that point, people that don't deal in reality, but rather think and act (and vote) based on ideals. Anyone who can't manage to a budget, basically, which Republicans used to be better at, and now everyone is terrible with it.

"How we live is so different from how we ought to live that he who studies that which ought to be done rather than what [B]is[/B] done will learn the way to his downfall rather than to his preservation." Machiavelli

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[quote=Chico23231;1225685]"Fellow scientists"[/quote]


LOL, what you are is a hoot, that's what you are.


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[quote=Chico23231;1225685]"Fellow scientists, what we have here is a brain of the only known woke progressive socialist conservative.[/quote]

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[quote=MTK;1225659]I've read some interesting stuff about how we lean politically is more biological than we realize... not really a choice, just who we are. Makes sense.[/quote]

From my experience I think a person's wallet is the overriding factor. Most people vote for the party that protects their financial well being. One example, someone on public assistance will never vote for a Republican.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1225702]From my experience I think a person's wallet is the overriding factor. Most people vote for the party that protects their financial well being. One example, someone on public assistance will never vote for a Republican.[/quote]

I think the trump fan base at least a good portion of it is a good example of that not being true.

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[quote=Giantone;1225713]I think the trump fan base at least a good portion of it is a good example of that not being true.[/quote]

Trump ran against a bigger piece of human trash than he is. He only won because who he ran against. I think you pretty much need to toss the 2016 presidential election as an aberration.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1225720]Trump ran against a bigger piece of human trash than he is. He only won because who he ran against. I think you pretty much need to toss the 2016 presidential election as an aberration.[/quote]

Still way up for debate on that,the longer he is in office the more people are changing their mind on that. Some republicans feel they must think that way to justify the mistake they made and it just doesn't float.. As I have stated before and will again I wanted Kasich .



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[QUOTE=Buffalo Bob;1225702]One example, someone on public assistance will never vote for a Republican.[/QUOTE]


You’re joking, right?



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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1225702]From my experience I think a person's wallet is the overriding factor. Most people vote for the party that protects their financial well being. One example, someone on public assistance will never vote for a Republican.[/quote]

Lol!

Time to step away from Fox News.

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[quote=Giantone;1225713]I think the trump fan base at least a good portion of it is a good example of that not being true.[/quote]

Yeah idw pile on Bob right now but one of my best friends' mom (who I've known for 17 years now) is on disability, food stamps and is also a diehard Trumper. She loves his anti-immigration stance. I already tried telling her he doesn't support people living off the gov't either but she only hears what she wants to hear.

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[quote=mooby;1225744]Yeah idw pile on Bob right now but one of my best friends' mom (who I've known for 17 years now) is on disability, food stamps and is also a diehard Trumper. She loves his anti-immigration stance. I already tried telling her he doesn't support people living off the gov't either but she only hears what she wants to hear.[/quote]

There are many senors who are on Government support one way or the other and they voted trump. To their own detriment and the sad thing is trump will continue to manipulate them,sad.

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[quote=Giantone;1225745]There are many senors who are on Government support one way or the other and they voted trump. To their own detriment and the sad thing is trump will continue to manipulate them,sad.[/quote]

G1, keep fighting the good fight.

I for one am giving up. After 4 years of bitching about Trump I have decided to accept that he is the greatest president we've ever had and I am going to trust him completely.

O' savior, if I promise to kiss thine feet and spread thy good word, please take pity on me and deliver satisfaction unto mine house. Let me bathe in the salty tears of libs who cannot accept the greatness.

Just look at all of these [URL="https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/cjucvq/trump_claims_he_is_least_racist_person_in_the/evg7jfb/"]sourced and documented statements[/URL], would a man who only serves his own interests say anything of this nature?

[quote]
“[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R42mFx3_ss"]I'm much more humble[/URL] than you would understand.”

“[URL="https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-best-temperaments-presidential-candidate/story?id=41003314"]I have the best temperament[/URL] or certainly one of the best temperaments of anybody that’s ever run for the office of president. Ever.”

“[URL="https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2015/06/01/donald-trump-straw-poll-mitt-romney-gucci-store/28313569/"]I’m the most successful person[/URL] ever to run for the presidency, by far. Nobody’s ever been more successful than me.”

“[URL="https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/14/trump-least-racist-person-340602"]I'm the least racist person[/URL] you will ever interview.”

“[URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/07/30/trump-says-hes-least-racist-person-world-thats-rich/?utm_term=.791ca5b25a8f"]I’m the least racist person[/URL] you’ll find anywhere in the world.”

"Number one,[URL="https://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/trump-press-conference-anti-semitic-threats-jake-turx-235107"] I am the least anti-Semitic person[/URL] that you’ve ever seen in your entire life. Number two, racism. The least racist person"

“[URL="https://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/trump-secret-service-226022"]I’m the best thing[/URL] that’s ever happened to the Secret Service.”

"[URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/politics/australia-mexico-transcripts/?utm_term=.a049f6f8d879"]I am the world’s greatest person[/URL] that does not want to let people into the country."

“[URL="https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/697031343272812544?lang=en"]No one has done more for people[/URL] with disabilities than me.”

"[URL="http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1607/16/se.02.html"]Nobody in the history of this country[/URL] has ever known so much about infrastructure as Donald Trump."

"[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7JYuVEAqEQ"]There's nobody who understands[/URL] the horror of nuclear more than me."

"[URL="https://www.foxnews.com/transcript/donald-trump-running-for-president"]There's nobody bigger or better[/URL] at the military than I am."

"[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwSo4IPkf5E"]There's nobody that feels stronger[/URL] about the intelligence community and the CIA than Donald Trump,"

"[URL="https://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/donald-trump-super-tuesday-220016"]There’s nobody that’s done so much[/URL] for equality as I have"

"[URL="https://news3lv.com/news/local/exclusive-one-on-one-with-presidential-candidate-donald-trump"]There's nobody that has more respect[/URL] for women than I do,"

"I would build a great wall, and [URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/01/08/president-trumps-desperate-nonsensical-claim-that-mexico-is-paying-wall/?utm_term=.2668d92b8dd9"]nobody builds walls[/URL] better than me, believe me"

"[URL="https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/601544572498509824"]I am going to save Social Security[/URL] without any cuts. I know where to get the money from. Nobody else does ."

"[URL="https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/trump-no-one-respects-women-more-than-i-do-655453251628"]Nobody respects women more[/URL] than I do"

"And I was so furious at that story, because there's [URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/05/19/this-sean-hannity-interview-is-why-people-think-the-media-is-too-easy-on-donald-trump/?utm_term=.ff96775deeca"]nobody that respects women more[/URL] than I do,"

"[URL="https://www.postandcourier.com/archives/trump-in-s-c-says-he-s-not-sexist-billionaire/article_ab3b1633-42f1-5116-95b5-c0aab96a6304.html"]Nobody respects women more[/URL] than Donald Trump"

"She can't talk about me because [URL="https://www.cnn.com/2016/05/09/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton/"]nobody respects women more[/URL] than Donald Trump,"

"[URL="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/713747213801938946"]Nobody has more respect[/URL] for women than Donald Trump!"

"[URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/c/embed/22d94cda-8e7a-11e6-bc00-1a9756d4111b"]Nobody has more respect[/URL] for women than I do."

"[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ru6uvTq39I&feature=youtu.be&t=3167"]Nobody has more respect[/URL] for women than I do. Nobody."

“[URL="https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/270610-trump-kerry-probably-hasnt-read-the-bible"]Nobody reads the Bible more[/URL] than me.”

"[URL="https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/02/23/trump_cruz_puts_down_bible_and_goes_around_lying_dishonest_media_probably_worse_than_cruz.html"]Nobody loves the Bible more[/URL] than I do"

"[URL="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/mar/04/donald-trump-gridiron-dinner-jared-kushner-melania"]Nobody does self-deprecating humor better[/URL] than I do. It’s not even close"

“[URL="https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-says-his-tax-rate-is-none-of-your-business"]Nobody knows more about taxes than I do[/URL], maybe in the history of the world.”

"[URL="https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/03/03/trump_i_own_a_store_in_manhattan_worth_more_than_mitt_romney.html"]Nobody knows more about trade than me[/URL]"

"[URL="https://www.cnn.com/2016/03/10/politics/republican-debate-transcript-full-text/"]Nobody knows the (visa) system better than me[/URL]. I know the H1B. I know the H2B. Nobody knows it better than me."

"[URL="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-king-of-debt_n_576a9b76e4b0c0252e77cba7"]Nobody knows debt better than me[/URL]."

"[URL="http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1608/27/cnr.07.html"]I think nobody knows the system better than I do[/URL]"

"I hope all workers demand that their @Teamsters reps endorse Donald J. Trump. [URL="https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/685582649679867904"]Nobody knows jobs like I do[/URL]! Don’t let them sell you out!"

“[URL="https://web.archive.org/web/20180301055454/https://www.foxnews.com/transcript/2016/04/13/trump-explains-why-feels-primary-process-is-unfair.html"]I know more about renewables[/URL] than any human being on earth.”

“[URL="https://www.facebook.com/cnn/videos/10154213275786509/?v=10154213275786509"]I know more about ISIS than the generals do[/URL].”

"[URL="https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/week-transcript-donald-trump-ben-carson/story?id=35336008"]I know more about contributions[/URL] than anybody"

"[URL="https://pjmedia.com/election/2016/07/28/tim-kaine-tries-a-trump-impression-at-dnc/"]I know more about offense and defense[/URL] than they will ever understand, believe me. Believe me. Than they will ever understand. Than they will ever understand."

"[URL="https://www.wsj.com/articles/transcript-of-donald-trump-interview-with-the-wall-street-journal-1515715481"]I know more about wedges[/URL] than any human being that's ever lived"

"[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OZOh3m80Y4&t=345"]I know more about drones than anybody[/URL],"

"[URL="https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/757760973419712512"]I know more about Cory[/URL] than he knows about himself."

"[URL="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/782541307168391168"]I know our complex tax laws better[/URL] than anyone who has ever run for president"

"[URL="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1076084489422557184"]I know tech better than anyone[/URL]"

“[URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/national/trump-i-have-the-best-words/2017/04/05/53a9ae4a-19fd-11e7-8598-9a99da559f9e_video.html?utm_term=.3f5081f4c01c"]I’m very highly educated[/URL]. I know words; I have the best words.”

"I know some of you may think l'm tough and harsh but actually [URL="https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/325973644276809730"]I'm a very compassionate person (with a very high IQ)[/URL] with strong common sense"

"I watch these pundits on television and, you know, they call them intellectuals. They're not intellectuals," Trump told thousands of supporters in the swing state. "I'm much smarter than them. [URL="https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-i-have-a-higher-iq-than-george-will"]I think I have a much higher IQ[/URL]. I think I went to a better college — better everything,"

"@ajodom60: @FoxNews and as far as that low-info voter base goes, [URL="https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/676174398253068289"]I have an IQ of 132[/URL]. So much for that theory. #MakeAmericaGreatAgain"

Sorry losers and haters, but [URL="https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/332308211321425920?lang=en"]my I.Q. is one of the highest[/URL] -and you all know it! Please don't feel so stupid or insecure,it's not your fault

“He’s been quite critical of you as you know. He’s attacked you for being ignorant,” Piers Morgan said to Trump. “[URL="https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/05/16/trump-challenges-london-mayor-sadiq-khan-iq-test/84436936/"]Let’s do an IQ test[/URL],” Trump interrupted

"We can’t let these people, these so called egg-heads--and by the way, [URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/10/10/a-brief-history-of-trump-challenging-people-to-iq-tests/?utm_term=.e84108e3018e"]I guarantee you my IQ is much higher than theirs[/URL], alright. Somebody said the other day, ‘Yes, well the intellectuals–‘ I said, ‘What intellectuals? I’m smarter than they are, many of people in this audience are smarter than they are."

“You know, [URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-president-trump-consumes--or-does-not-consume--top-secret-intelligence/2017/05/29/1caaca3e-39ae-11e7-a058-ddbb23c75d82_story.html?utm_term=.1e5663e1f911"]I’m, like, a smart person[/URL]. I don’t have to be told the same thing in the same words every single day for the next eight years,” Trump told Fox News last December.

Trump says he has "[URL="https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/10/trump-says-myeshia-johnsons-recollection-is-wrong-and-he-has-one-of-the-great-memories-of-all-time.html"]one of the great memories of all time[/URL]"

Asked on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” who he talks with consistently about foreign policy, Trump responded, “I’m speaking with myself, number one, because [URL="https://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/trump-foreign-policy-adviser-220853"]I have a very good brain[/URL] and I’ve said a lot of things."

" ... I think that would qualify as not smart, but genius....and [URL="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/949619270631256064"]a very stable genius[/URL] at that!"
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God bless Trump, and God bless America. Amen.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1225847]G1, keep fighting the good fight.



I for one am giving up. After 4 years of bitching about Trump I have decided to accept that he is the greatest president we've ever had and I am going to trust him completely.



O' savior, if I promise to kiss thine feet and spread thy good word, please take pity on me and deliver satisfaction unto mine house. Let me bathe in the salty tears of libs who cannot accept the greatness.



Just look at all of these [URL="https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/cjucvq/trump_claims_he_is_least_racist_person_in_the/evg7jfb/"]sourced and documented statements[/URL], would a man who only serves his own interests say anything of this nature?







God bless Trump, and God bless America. Amen.[/QUOTE]It is good to have you in the cult. Just repeat this every night before bed
Fox is good
Pence is not worthy
Only Trump shall lead us from the heresy of CNN and MSNBC
Pelosi is the minion of the evil socialistic triumvurate of pocahontas high tax schumer and the nutty professor

I will send you a video of the secret handshake in a few.



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[quote=mooby;1225847]G1, keep fighting the good fight.

I for one am giving up. After 4 years of bitching about Trump I have decided to accept that he is the greatest president we've ever had and I am going to trust him completely.

O' savior, if I promise to kiss thine feet and spread thy good word, please take pity on me and deliver satisfaction unto mine house. Let me bathe in the salty tears of libs who cannot accept the greatness.

Just look at all of these [URL="https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/cjucvq/trump_claims_he_is_least_racist_person_in_the/evg7jfb/"]sourced and documented statements[/URL], would a man who only serves his own interests say anything of this nature?



God bless Trump, and God bless America. Amen.[/quote]



I will not allow you to join the sordid bottomless abyss of the tangerine clown known as trump.I doubt the cult will accept you for you possess far greater intelligence than is required of said trumpettes. The fact that you actually accept real facts and not "alternative facts" could possible get you physically hurt after not accepting the cults racist views.





PM me and will get it straight!:food-smil:lol:

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To the Democrats and Eli Manning Fan Club, what 1 or 2 candidates do you think have the best chance to beat Trump?

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1225869]To the Democrats and Eli Manning Fan Club, what 1 or 2 candidates do you think have the best chance to beat Trump?[/quote]

To get the trump voters Biden and another favorite as a V.P.

....maybe Harris , Gillibrand or even Booker . It's early and still a long way to go.


Kasich needs to switch parties he would win.

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1225893]To get the trump voters Biden and another favorite as a V.P.



....maybe Harris , Gillibrand or even Booker . It's early and still a long way to go.





[B]Kasich needs to switch parties he would win.[/B][/QUOTE]
I get the Kasich comment, and he might win the general election as a Democrat, but no way he could win the Democratic primaries with his views. That party has swung too far to hear his points.


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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1225939]I get the Kasich comment, and he might win the general election as a Democrat, but no way he could win the Democratic primaries with his views. That party has swung too far to hear his points.


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See I think he would get the republican voters and Dems who can't stand all the Dems out there now but hate trump and there are alot of those voters.

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1225941]See I think he would get the republican voters and Dems who can't stand all the Dems out there now but hate trump and there are alot of those voters.[/QUOTE]In the general election i agree, but do you think he could win democratic primaries that dont allow republicans to vote?



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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1225946]In the general election i agree, but do you think he could win democratic primaries that dont allow republicans to vote?



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Yes, but put him on Stage(debates) and make Dems listen to him, I think you'ed be surprised how many Dems would like what he has to say. Many Dems aren't real happy with the players out there now and I think bernie is driving people away.

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1225947]Yes, but put him on Stage(debates) and make Dems listen to him, I think you'ed be surprised how many Dems would like what he has to say. Many Dems aren't real happy with the players out there now and I think bernie is driving people away.[/QUOTE]Fair enough. I think he could make a strong independent run against trump and the eventual democeatic nominee, especially with a moderate democrat ae vp candidate running on a campaign of national healing and unity. Put a moderate platform together and find dem and rep incumbents willing to sign off on it.


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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1225948]Fair enough. I think he could make a strong independent run against trump and the eventual democeatic nominee, especially with a moderate democrat ae vp candidate running on a campaign of national healing and unity. Put a moderate platform together and find dem and rep incumbents willing to sign off on it.


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Bingo!

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[quote=Giantone;1225728]Still way up for debate on that,the longer he is in office the more people are changing their mind on that. Some republicans feel they must think that way to justify the mistake they made and it just doesn't float.. As I have stated before and will again I wanted Kasich .



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Maybe you should fact check the fake news you read and watch.



[url]https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/1998-trump-people-quote/[/url]

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[quote=mooby;1225744]Yeah idw pile on Bob right now but one of my best friends' mom (who I've known for 17 years now) is on disability, food stamps and is also a diehard Trumper. She loves his anti-immigration stance. I already tried telling her he doesn't support people living off the gov't either but she only hears what she wants to hear.[/quote]

Your statement is also false. Being on disability is one thing being a healthy person unwilling to work is another thing. Trump has never said anything close to throwing disabled Americans off government assistance. He wants to throw people unwilling to work off government assistance.

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[quote=Back2RFK;1226391]Your statement is also false. Being on disability is one thing being a healthy person unwilling to work is another thing. Trump has never said anything close to throwing disabled Americans off government assistance. He wants to throw people unwilling to work off government assistance.[/quote]

What type of assistance is there for people who simply don't want to work? Typically you need to be disabled to receive benefits.

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[quote=Back2RFK;1226391]Your statement is also false. Being on disability is one thing being a healthy person unwilling to work is another thing. Trump has never said anything close to throwing disabled Americans off government assistance. He wants to throw people unwilling to work off government assistance.[/quote]

Please can you show us were trump has said that ?

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[quote=Back2RFK;1226391]Your statement is also false. Being on disability is one thing being a healthy person unwilling to work is another thing. Trump has never said anything close to throwing disabled Americans off government assistance. He wants to throw people unwilling to work off government assistance.[/quote]

How exactly do you identify these lazy good-for-nothings from people cheating disability? Trump doesn't exactly seem like a guy who cares for nuance.

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An oldie but a goodie:

Not racists shouting not racist things at Trump rallies.

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My favorite was "Mexico's gonna pay for it!"

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[quote=MTK;1226393]What type of assistance is there for people who simply don't want to work? Typically you need to be disabled to receive benefits.[/quote]

Well you have SNAP, health insurance, housing allowance,CHIP, earned Income tax credit, Obama phones, and others. Also getting diagnosed now days with a disability is pretty easy.

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[quote=Giantone;1226396]Please can you show us were trump has said that ?[/quote]

He has never said anything about kicking people off disability and thats my point. I was responding to Mooby's post.