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skinsfaninok 10-08-2019 12:42 PM

DHall thinks Bill Callahan could get the HC job next year
 
I figured he needed his own thread.

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@DeAngeloHall23
pod: "Coach Callahahan and Jay Gruden really didn't get along, to the point that Jay went in there and said, 'It's either me or Coach Callahan,' last year."

"Don't be surprised, you heard it here first, if Bill Callahan actually retains this job, as the head coach. Don't be surprised."

DHall seems to have good insight from inside, what are your thoughts?

SFREDSKIN 10-08-2019 12:56 PM

Re: Bill Callahan
 
No thanks!! The only reason he’s with the Redskins is Bruce Allen since they go to the Raiders days. Would not surprise me if stupid Allen gives him the job. We need some young, hungry, creative, discipline blood.

MTK 10-08-2019 12:58 PM

Re: Bill Callahan
 
Wouldn't surprise me at all. If Allen is staying not much else is going to change and pretty much nobody significant is going to be interested in coming here. Same shit different day.

Buffalo Bob 10-08-2019 01:02 PM

Re: Bill Callahan
 
Callahan hasn't been very good as a head coach either in the pros or in college. He made a Super Bowl on the heels of Jon Gruden with the Raiders, then went 4-12 the next year. He didn't do much at Nebraska either. Do not want as head coach. He was supposed to be a good O-line coach, what the hell has happened here with that?

skinsfan69 10-08-2019 01:09 PM

Re: DHall thinks Bill Callahan could get the HC job next year
 
Wow.. if BC stays on I will really be done. It would just be a move that helps Allen keep his job. What Dan needs to do the day the season ends is get a GM from the outside that has no affiliation with anyone of the incumbents. Give him full power. No more cronies. No more losers from Tampa or Oakland.

Buffalo Bob 10-08-2019 01:12 PM

Re: Bill Callahan
 
[quote=MTK;1233740]Wouldn't surprise me at all. If Allen is staying not much else is going to change and pretty much nobody significant is going to be interested in coming here. Same shit different day.[/quote]

If you look at the records of the head coaches Gibbs, Schottenheimer, and Shannahan under Snyder compared to without Snyder the difference in record is glaring. Until Snyder hires a real GM and lets him run the show, mediocrity for the Redskins will be the ceiling.

skinsfan69 10-08-2019 01:16 PM

Re: DHall thinks Bill Callahan could get the HC job next year
 
I honestly want them to lose Sunday. I want 0-16, 1-15, 2-14. I want the bottom to fall out. I want that stadium to be like it was last week. It is the only way Snyder may be forced to remove Allen or just put him on stadium operations. If the bottom falls out he may hire someone and give him full control.

Schneed10 10-08-2019 01:18 PM

Re: Bill Callahan
 
[quote=MTK;1233740]Wouldn't surprise me at all. If Allen is staying not much else is going to change and pretty much nobody significant is going to be interested in coming here. Same shit different day.[/quote]

Yeah agree. The only glimmer of hope we have is if Snyder gets starry-eyed over an established name and turns over full autonomy of football operations in order to land that big name. That gets Bruce out of the equation and you end up with a Gibbs II or Shanahan style situation, which admittedly were not overly successful but they were better than anything we put out there with Bruce leading football operations.

If we end up with Callahan to coach and Bruce is still overseeing football operations, that's same shit different day. Perfect term for it.

I'm in favor of ANY METHOD of removing Bruce Allen from football operations. If that method is trade a 1st round pick for Mike Tomlin and give Mike Tomlin full autonomy, it may be a shitty deal, but it's still better than having Bruce involved.

MTK 10-08-2019 01:23 PM

Re: DHall thinks Bill Callahan could get the HC job next year
 
If we trade for Tomlin that would be hilarious and so Redskins.

Buffalo Bob 10-08-2019 01:26 PM

Re: DHall thinks Bill Callahan could get the HC job next year
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1233748]I honestly want them to lose Sunday. I want 0-16, 1-15, 2-14. I want the bottom to fall out. I want that stadium to be like it was last week. It is the only way Snyder may be forced to remove Allen or just put him on stadium operations. If the bottom falls out he may hire someone and give him full control.[/quote]

From Vegas Insider:

[I]The Redskins are 59-89-1 with Allen working in some capacity since 2010.[/I]

How many guys with that type record have lasted as long as Allen? I am guessing no one other than him.

skinsfaninok 10-08-2019 01:29 PM

Re: DHall thinks Bill Callahan could get the HC job next year
 
[quote=MTK;1233751]If we trade for Tomlin that would be hilarious and so Redskins.[/quote]

They may let him go and I believe Jon is the only coach ever traded for right?

REDSKINS4ever 10-08-2019 01:30 PM

Re: DHall thinks Bill Callahan could get the HC job next year
 
Callahan is an upgrade over Gruden, that's for sure....his football mind appears to be a lot sharper than Jay Gruden's too....whether the changes that he implements transform into success has to be seen....he wants to put heavy emphasis on being a physical running team....the only problem with that is the Redskins offensive line appear to be less stronger at the point of attack than the defensive fronts they have faced.....the running backs have been easily swallowed up by defenders and the offensive line have failed to create holes for the ball carriers....

Chico23231 10-08-2019 01:33 PM

Re: DHall thinks Bill Callahan could get the HC job next year
 
would be highly surprised if its Callahan...he would have to ball out these last 11

no splash to Callahan

skinsfaninok 10-08-2019 01:35 PM

Re: DHall thinks Bill Callahan could get the HC job next year
 
[quote=Buffalo Bob;1233752]From Vegas Insider:

[I]The Redskins are 59-89-1 with Allen working in some capacity since 2010.[/I]

How many guys with that type record have lasted as long as Allen? I am guessing no one other than him.[/quote]

so bad

SunnySide 10-08-2019 01:49 PM

Re: DHall thinks Bill Callahan could get the HC job next year
 
Penn-Flowers-Bergstrom-Martin-Moses

^^ I dont know how you run with that unit .. especially when teams know you are going to run.

Penn looks to be getting banged up. Would not be surprised to see him go down for extended time. Then we get the joy of bringing guys in off the street and starting them 3 days later. At least we have lots of experience doing that the past few years.

We were held together by duck tape the past few years but now I think we are out of duck tape.

sdskinsfan2001 10-08-2019 02:01 PM

Re: DHall thinks Bill Callahan could get the HC job next year
 
If we keep Callahan as HC I am going to find a MIB memory eraser and pick a new team.

MTK 10-08-2019 02:12 PM

Re: Bill Callahan
 
[quote=Schneed10;1233749]Yeah agree. The only glimmer of hope we have is if Snyder gets starry-eyed over an established name and turns over full autonomy of football operations in order to land that big name. That gets Bruce out of the equation and you end up with a Gibbs II or Shanahan style situation, which admittedly were not overly successful but they were better than anything we put out there with Bruce leading football operations.

If we end up with Callahan to coach and Bruce is still overseeing football operations, that's same shit different day. Perfect term for it.

I'm in favor of ANY METHOD of removing Bruce Allen from football operations. If that method is trade a 1st round pick for Mike Tomlin and give Mike Tomlin full autonomy, it may be a shitty deal, but it's still better than having Bruce involved.[/quote]

Tomlin would interest me if the deal was he gets to pick his own GM. Otherwise he'd be dealing with the same BS no other coaches have been able to overcome here.

calia 10-08-2019 02:23 PM

Re: Bill Callahan
 
[quote=MTK;1233761]Tomlin would interest me if the deal was he gets to pick his own GM. Otherwise he'd be dealing with the same BS no other coaches have been able to overcome here.[/quote]

If Bruce Allen is still affiliated with this team on Jan. 1, I am probably going to turn over a new leaf and find another team to support. 30 years (almost) of no relevance is more than enough.

Frankly, I'd love to see a new GM and Cowher (I doubt he'd ever bite, but I always loved him as a coach).

mooby 10-08-2019 02:27 PM

Re: DHall thinks Bill Callahan could get the HC job next year
 
I will fucking rage if Bill Callahan gets this job because nobody else wants to play with this turd.

Only Dan Snyder could endorse a guy who's 30 games under .500 in his decade-long tenure with the team. Bruce Allen you fucking hack.

Schneed10 10-08-2019 02:44 PM

Re: Bill Callahan
 
[quote=MTK;1233761]Tomlin would interest me if the deal was he gets to pick his own GM. Otherwise he'd be dealing with the same BS no other coaches have been able to overcome here.[/quote]

Agree. In retrospect, Joe Gibbs II was amazingly successful compared to all others. Made the playoffs twice, delivered the last playoff victory, all without a franchise QB.

You really do have to grade everyone on the Dan Snyder curve.

skinsfaninok 10-08-2019 02:45 PM

Re: Bill Callahan
 
[quote=calia;1233762]If Bruce Allen is still affiliated with this team on Jan. 1, I am probably going to turn over a new leaf and find another team to support. 30 years (almost) of no relevance is more than enough.

Frankly, I'd love to see a new GM and Cowher (I doubt he'd ever bite, but I always loved him as a coach).[/quote]

I won't pick another team but I will just stop watching the skins

Buffalo Bob 10-08-2019 03:14 PM

Re: Bill Callahan
 
[quote=Schneed10;1233767]Agree. In retrospect, Joe Gibbs II was amazingly successful compared to all others. Made the playoffs twice, delivered the last playoff victory, all without a franchise QB.

[B]You really do have to grade everyone on the Dan Snyder curve[/B].[/quote]

Joe Gibbs 124-60 .673 pct without Snyder

Joe Gibbs 30-34 .468 pct with Snyder

skinsfaninok 10-08-2019 03:24 PM

Re: DHall thinks Bill Callahan could get the HC job next year
 
Lavar " The root of the issue is Dan Snyder, he is the problem and it won't change until the right people control the team"

CRedskinsRule 10-08-2019 03:34 PM

Re: DHall thinks Bill Callahan could get the HC job next year
 
I wonder if Callahan makes any hard push in the TW situation. IF he is trying to be the long term head coach taking a defining role in resolving that would make an impact in the locker room.

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jamf 10-08-2019 04:06 PM

Re: DHall thinks Bill Callahan could get the HC job next year
 
Snyder does thing in patterns.
He went Veteran QB to Rookie QB to Vet to Rook to Vet back to Rook.
He does the same with coaches. Gruden was a first time HC in the NFL, The next HC will be a proven veteran HC with superbowl experience.

The Redskins 2020 Coaching staff will be:
HC - Dick Vermeil
OC - Kurt Warner
DC - Landon Flecther
GM - Kay Adams

Im not sure Vermeil is alive but we could Ginzberg that fucker if needed.

Buffalo Bob 10-08-2019 04:41 PM

Re: DHall thinks Bill Callahan could get the HC job next year
 
[quote=jamf;1233779]Snyder does thing in patterns.
He went Veteran QB to Rookie QB to Vet to Rook to Vet back to Rook.
He does the same with coaches. Gruden was a first time HC in the NFL, The next HC will be a proven veteran HC with superbowl experience.

The Redskins 2020 Coaching staff will be:
HC - [B]Dick Vermeil[/B]
OC - Kurt Warner
DC - Landon Flecther
GM - Kay Adams

Im not sure Vermeil is alive but we could Ginzberg that fucker if needed.[/quote]

Vermeil is alive and healthy but 82 years old. I know you are joking, but even if he was 30 years younger the Redskins after having a softie like Jay Gruden definitely do not need a coach who cries at press conferences.

I wonder what would happen in today's NFL if you had a hard ass like Vince Lombardi as a head coach.

AnonEmouse 10-08-2019 06:56 PM

Re: DHall thinks Bill Callahan could get the HC job next year
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1233760]If we keep Callahan as HC I am going to find a MIB memory eraser and pick a new team.[/quote]
Surely you'd use it on Snyder and Allen, and convince them they were a retired comedy duo? Not that far from the truth...

skinsfaninok 10-08-2019 10:45 PM

Re: DHall thinks Bill Callahan could get the HC job next year
 
Mike Tomlin was asked about the skins job today and he beat around the Bush, did not say no to it. [emoji848][emoji848][emoji848]

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SFREDSKIN 10-08-2019 10:49 PM

Re: DHall thinks Bill Callahan could get the HC job next year
 
I would seriously consider O’Connell, let’s see his play calling starting Sunday.

[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/kevin-oconnell-lincoln-riley-rundown-potential-redskins-head-coach-candidates[/url]

[url]https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/kevin_oconnell_being_considered_by_redskins_for_head_coaching_job/s1_14819_30209441[/url]

CRedskinsRule 10-08-2019 10:51 PM

Re: DHall thinks Bill Callahan could get the HC job next year
 
I think Jedi Mind tricks are the way to go.

Mr Snyder, this is not the football team you purchased.

You are not the owner of the Redskins.

You do like midgets.

Meks 10-08-2019 11:16 PM

Re: DHall thinks Bill Callahan could get the HC job next year
 
Just get a new fucking DC. That's a step in the right direction.

Luxorreb 10-09-2019 01:49 AM

Re: DHall thinks Bill Callahan could get the HC job next year
 
Bruce Allen is a hack. Can only hide behind the last name and accomplishments of decades previous for only but so long.
He must go!
Hire a professional and let them run the team.
Give them full control.
If Allen is still there after the worst season in modern era Redskins history there is no hope.
PLEASE DAN!

irish 10-09-2019 07:18 AM

Re: Bill Callahan
 
[quote=MTK;1233761]Tomlin would interest me if the deal was he gets to pick his own GM. Otherwise he'd be dealing with the same BS no other coaches have been able to overcome here.[/quote]

I think Tomlin still has a couple years left on his contract and there's no way I see he him opting out for the Skins job. He's not that desperate.

Chico23231 10-09-2019 07:48 AM

Re: DHall thinks Bill Callahan could get the HC job next year
 
Fuck tomlin

skinsfaninok 10-09-2019 07:54 AM

Re: DHall thinks Bill Callahan could get the HC job next year
 
I'd imagine KOC will be the new HC , Maybe dude from K.C but I bet they just stay in house

Redskins247 10-09-2019 09:47 AM

Re: Bill Callahan
 
[quote=irish;1233824]I think Tomlin still has a couple years left on his contract and there's no way I see he him opting out for the Skins job. He's not that desperate.[/quote]

This. I don't understand all the talk with Tomlin?? I know Ed Werder reported it, but WTF do you throw his name out there? I mean if you're just compiling a wish list of any coach you would want...why not name Sean McVay??? Pederson? Reich?? Hell why not say you'll target Belichick...the best of them all??? It's ridiculous.

BaltimoreSkins 10-09-2019 10:12 AM

Re: DHall thinks Bill Callahan could get the HC job next year
 
Tomlin is reportedly on the hot seat. There is also the draw to the DMV that his son plays foosball for the Terps

skinsfan69 10-09-2019 10:29 AM

Re: DHall thinks Bill Callahan could get the HC job next year
 
Tomlin is lucky in that he gets to coach for the Steelers who will never be run by idiots. They're always going to have a strong gm in place. They already had a QB in place. If he came here he'd totally fail cause he wouldn't be able to pick his staff and QB. He'd just be coming for the money.

Chico23231 10-09-2019 10:31 AM

Re: DHall thinks Bill Callahan could get the HC job next year
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1233841]Tomlin is lucky in that he gets to coach for the Steelers who will never be run by idiots. They're always going to have a strong gm in place. They already had a QB in place. If he came here he'd totally fail cause he wouldn't be able to pick his staff and QB.[/quote]

It would be the most “more of the same bullshit” choice ever. Terrible choice.

MTK 10-09-2019 10:34 AM

Re: Bill Callahan
 
[QUOTE=irish;1233824]I think Tomlin still has a couple years left on his contract and there's no way I see he him opting out for the Skins job. He's not that desperate.[/QUOTE]


Plenty of talk out there about a potential trade, that would be the most likely scenario to get him here



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