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Burgold 10-16-2019 08:39 PM

Redskins May Become An Afterthought IN D.C. Sports Soon
 
In case nobody's paying attention,the Nationals are going to the World Series..the Mystics just won a title..the Caps are recent champs...Danny boy better wake up and take some notes,this town is diverse in sports now with actual winners,no longer are the Skins the only game in town,heck soon they may fall behind the Wizards and that would truly be the end...HAIL TO THE LATE ONCE GREAT-REDSKINS!!

mooby 10-16-2019 09:06 PM

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"Soon"

Nice qualifier.

Just playing devil's advocate here, I'm gonna say the Redskins are an afterthought in DC sports already. The Wizards are only in the same boat because they're still in a hangover from the Grunfeld era. It's gonna take a while to get them out of hole they're in, but at least they have hope. We have none. Only the diehards remain.

SolidSnake84 10-17-2019 06:49 AM

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You have to think, five years down the road the fanbase might be basically gone. Nobody is coming to games, etc.. How bad do things have to get financially, would Dan ever be forced to sell the skins due to financial constraints?

Buffalo Bob 10-17-2019 08:23 AM

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Until he sells or realizes he is the biggest part of the problem the Redskins will always suffer from the Snyder factor. The ceiling will never be more than 10 wins and maybe winning a wild card game. In fact in the last dozen plus years the team has only won 10 games one time and that was due to the fact the league hadn't figured out RG3 yet. I think over Snyder's ownership the Redskins rank something like 28th in wins. Hard to think the Redskins are perennial bottom feeders, but they are.

BaltimoreSkins 10-17-2019 08:50 AM

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Nats/Caps giving props to the Mystics: [url]https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2019/10/16/elena-delle-donne-throws-out-first-pitch-at-nationals-park-drops-puck-at-capitals-game-on-consecutive-nights/#more-341235[/url]

Will Skins have them for ceremonial coin toss?

skinsfan69 10-17-2019 09:35 AM

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I don't even wear my Skins gear anymore. I'l watch on Sun mainly because I want to see the 49ers and how well Kyle has that team playing. Only watched the 2nd half last week.

I dislike Bruce and Dan so much that they make it hard to root for the team. It has gotten to the point where I want them to lose just to embarrass those two clowns.

skinsfan69 10-17-2019 09:40 AM

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This Nats run is really what team sports is all about. Guys playing for each other and they enjoy each other.

Defensewins 10-17-2019 09:50 AM

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Nothing would fix this problem quicker than Dan to fire Bruce Allen.
Hire a Strong GM. Problem solved.

MTK 10-17-2019 10:01 AM

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1234560]You have to think, five years down the road the fanbase might be basically gone. Nobody is coming to games, etc.. How bad do things have to get financially, would Dan ever be forced to sell the skins due to financial constraints?[/quote]

You've heard of revenue sharing right? The league is raking in insane revenue just through TV deals. Last year the Redskins had [URL="https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2019/09/04/the-nfls-most-valuable-teams-2019-cowboys-lead-league-at-55-billion/#1563419f2f1b"]operating income of $120M[/URL]. It's going to take a very long time before there's any real financial concern.

irish 10-17-2019 10:30 AM

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[quote=mooby;1234546]"Soon"

Nice qualifier.

Just playing devil's advocate here, I'm gonna say the Redskins are an afterthought in DC sports already. The Wizards are only in the same boat because they're still in a hangover from the Grunfeld era. It's gonna take a while to get them out of hole they're in, but at least they have hope. We have none. Only the diehards remain.[/quote]

I agree, only the diehards remain. I have been in the DMV since 88 and back then if you went to the grocery store on Sunday during a Skins game the game was on over the store's PA system. Now you mention the Skins and people either laugh or shake their head in disgust. For all intents and purposes they already are an afterthought. Its sad to see how far this organization has fallen.

Winning a Super Bowl would bring back a lot of the lapsed fans but for some people as long as DS is the owner it wont matter what the Skins do, they aren't coming back.

jamf 10-17-2019 11:04 AM

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The fan base has been suffering for 20 years but look how quickly things came together with that electric kid playing QB in 2012.

Modern DC is a tourist town with a lot to see and do for fans of visiting teams so it will never go back to the old days.

Also consider that DC was a shithole( sorry) during the Redskins glory years. All I knew about DC growing up was that it was the murder capital of the US and the mayor smoked crack. It wasn't the safest place to visit back in the day.

MTK 10-17-2019 11:08 AM

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[quote=jamf;1234607][B]The fan base has been suffering for 20 years but look how quickly things came together with that electric kid playing QB in 2012.
[/B]
Modern DC is a tourist town with a lot to see and do for fans of visiting teams so it will never go back to the old days.

Also consider that DC was a shithole( sorry) during the Redskins glory years. All I knew about DC growing up was that it was the murder capital of the US and the mayor smoked crack. It wasn't the safest place to visit back in the day.[/quote]

Exactly, all it takes is a star player and some wins to quickly rejuvenate the fan base. Could it be Haskins? It would be nice to get him in the starting lineup already.

irish 10-17-2019 11:43 AM

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[quote=jamf;1234607]The fan base has been suffering for 20 years but look how quickly things came together with that electric kid playing QB in 2012.

Modern DC is a tourist town with a lot to see and do for fans of visiting teams so it will never go back to the old days.

Also consider that DC was a shithole( sorry) during the Redskins glory years. All I knew about DC growing up was that it was the murder capital of the US and the mayor smoked crack. It wasn't the safest place to visit back in the day.[/quote]

The tourist areas around the monuments and museums were as safe to visit then as they are now. The big difference now is that large swaths of the city that were shit-holes then are now very desirable places to live and hang out (Navy Yard).

Burgold 10-17-2019 06:43 PM

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Guys listen up,not to get away from the subject here,but all of D.C. wasn't a[shithole]so don't believe everything you hear,all major cities have ghetto's and D.C. is no different...I'm a native and know what I'm talking about!!

skinsfan69 10-17-2019 09:49 PM

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[quote=jamf;1234607]The fan base has been suffering for 20 years but look how quickly things came together with that electric kid playing QB in 2012.

Modern DC is a tourist town with a lot to see and do for fans of visiting teams so it will never go back to the old days.

Also consider that DC was a shithole( sorry) during the Redskins glory years. All I knew about DC growing up was that it was the murder capital of the US and the mayor smoked crack. It wasn't the safest place to visit back in the day.[/quote]

And literally by the next year the stadium was empty, see Kansas City 2013. Also DC was not a shithole during the glory years. Plenty of nice areas back then.

jamf 10-17-2019 09:49 PM

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[quote=Burgold;1234643]Guys listen up,not to get away from the subject here,but all of D.C. wasn't a[shithole]so don't believe everything you hear,all major cities have ghetto's and D.C. is no different...I'm a native and know what I'm talking about!![/quote]

Im sure you’re right but non residents didn’t know that in the 80s. This is all pre trip advisor and hotels.com. At least that’s my viewpoint from out west.

Buffalo Bob 10-18-2019 08:36 AM

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[quote=MTK;1234597]You've heard of revenue sharing right? The league is raking in insane revenue just through TV deals. Last year the Redskins had [URL="https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2019/09/04/the-nfls-most-valuable-teams-2019-cowboys-lead-league-at-55-billion/#1563419f2f1b"]operating income of $120M[/URL]. It's going to take a very long time before there's any real financial concern.[/quote]

That and the value of NFL teams continue to rise at a fast pace. Snyder bought the Redskins and Fedex Field for $800 million 20 years ago, Forbes had the Redskins valued at $3.1 Billion 2 years ago. In spite of Snyder's bumbling that ranked them the 4th most valuable NFL team.

punch it in 10-20-2019 03:55 PM

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[QUOTE=mooby;1234546]"Soon"



Nice qualifier.



Just playing devil's advocate here, I'm gonna say the Redskins are an afterthought in DC sports already. The Wizards are only in the same boat because they're still in a hangover from the Grunfeld era. It's gonna take a while to get them out of hole they're in, but at least they have hope. We have none. Only the diehards remain.[/QUOTE]



This. Ill take it a step further, they have been an afterthought for a long time. This would have been a solid thread about 10 years ago.

Burgold 10-21-2019 05:54 PM

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[quote=punch it in;1234878]This. Ill take it a step further, they have been an afterthought for a long time. This would have been a solid thread about 10 years ago.[/quote]You ain't never lied...you're my hero!!

mooby 10-21-2019 06:44 PM

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Maybe we need to get some sort of organized blackout going, like spread the word via social media to do a #redskinsblackout every weekend until bruce is fired. Imagine if we got that trending on twitter. Imagine if local ratings tanked so much (even beyond what they've already tanked) that Dan was forced to take notice.

punch it in 10-21-2019 07:37 PM

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[QUOTE=Burgold;1235044]You ain't never lied...you're my hero!![/QUOTE]



Lol

sandtrapjack 10-22-2019 09:16 AM

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Go 'Stros!

Chico23231 10-22-2019 09:21 AM

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[quote=sandtrapjack;1235073]Go 'Stros![/quote]

lol

shocking someones around again...lol

SFREDSKIN 11-18-2019 07:29 PM

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The Redskins have lost Washington!!

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/what-once-seemed-impossible-is-now-undeniable-the-redskins-have-lost-washington/2019/11/17/c215e596-0975-11ea-8397-a955cd542d00_story.html?fbclid=IwAR30ZyjymYVAHVB1jGzgmtivnirJl93iwE-2B0VdaAAVHt9ZQ153UkX1IbQ[/url]

calia 11-20-2019 02:27 AM

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1237217]The Redskins have lost Washington!!



[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/what-once-seemed-impossible-is-now-undeniable-the-redskins-have-lost-washington/2019/11/17/c215e596-0975-11ea-8397-a955cd542d00_story.html?fbclid=IwAR30ZyjymYVAHVB1jGzgmtivnirJl93iwE-2B0VdaAAVHt9ZQ153UkX1IbQ[/url][/QUOTE]



Yep


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KI Skins Fan 11-20-2019 07:23 AM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1237217]The Redskins have lost Washington!!

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/what-once-seemed-impossible-is-now-undeniable-the-redskins-have-lost-washington/2019/11/17/c215e596-0975-11ea-8397-a955cd542d00_story.html?fbclid=IwAR30ZyjymYVAHVB1jGzgmtivnirJl93iwE-2B0VdaAAVHt9ZQ153UkX1IbQ[/url][/quote]

This article is the absolute truth. Boswell perfectly articulated some of the reasons I can't stand Snyder and his minions. Such as:

"The prestige and status of the Washington Redskins within the D.C. area reached their absolute bottom — the lowest point in the existence of the franchise in this city since 1937 — on Sunday at FedEx Field.

Over the past 18 months, a trend, many years in the making, has turned into a stunning transformation. Washington has discovered that champions can live here. So why tolerate, let alone support, an [B]atrociously run[/B] and [B]constantly embarrassing[/B] franchise with a [B]moral compass that is as twisted as a corkscrew[/B]?

It took Washington owner Daniel Snyder 20 years to carve a trap door under his own franchise. Like a character in a cartoon, he has been sawing a circle in the floor around himself — with the billionaire the last person to know he was the one who would drop through the hole.

In recent weeks, seven-time Pro Bowl left tackle Trent Williams has become the latest symbol of the region’s disgust with Snyder’s ownership, [B]an inept decade under team president Bruce Allen[/B] and [B]a general petty ugliness with which the team treats everyone[/B].

[B]Year after year, it is the Redskins’ pattern — and perhaps their policy — never to admit that anything is wrong and always to say that they are “close.” [/B]That is always the word — coaching regime after regime. They hardly ever are. It’s [B]self-delusion[/B] and [B]marketed to suckers[/B].

This team has dominated Washington sports conversation for so long, it’s hard to believe it can veer so amazingly close to irrelevance, parody and pity — for its remaining fans.

Mark the moment in D.C. history. Long time coming — and deserved, one defeat and misdeed at a time. But the crash, when it came, happened fast. Washington, owned by a pro football team year-round — that’s over now."

rocnrik 11-20-2019 07:31 AM

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The only hope we have is to root for this team to continue to go down until snyder sells the team .... as long as he is owner this is what we have .. we ain’t hit bottom yet, I can see this team not winning a game for rest of this year and maybe most of next.. and watch the crap show of a head coach search we will go on.. under Bruce’s leadership and great culture .. the fact that he says the culture is good is a complete disconnect to reality ...what is the lowest attendance record in modern history to a game .


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