Offseason Roster Moves Thread
 

We should have a place to talk about roster moves that need to happen independent of the coaching/FO thread.

Here's my breakdown of what moves need to be made:

QB: Haskins is obviously solidified as the starter, do we re-up Keenum as the backup and/or McCoy? I like McCoy but I'm letting him walk. Possibly candidate to draft a backup in the later rounds if there's someone they like. Alex Smith should stay on the reserved/injured list for another year or possibly retires as a post-June 1st move?

RB: Guice will be back but between him, Bryce Love, and AP we're looking at an aging running back surrounded by two injury question marks. I'd bring in a late round rookie to compete with Love for the 3rd down back. I like Chris Thompson but he's probably leaving too.

WR: McLaurin, Harmon, and Steven Sims are safe. I didn't see enough out of Trey Quinn to bring him back so he can walk. If I'm Rivera, I bring in a solid possession guy to replace Harmon as the #2 and bump Harmon to #4 just so there's a veteran presence to help guide the young guns along (as well as give Haskins a solid veteran option to rely on).

TE: Arguably the #1 biggest hole on the roster. Reed should retire and Vernon Davis' contract is up, and Sprinkle is underwhelming. I would go after a veteran option through FA or trade, then draft another option to be the #2, cut Sprinkle and bring back Hale Hentges to fight for a roster spot.

O-line: The key decision here is do we bring back Trent for a year or two? Bringing him back allows us to postpone making a move for a year minimum. We should be able to resign Ereck Flowers to a decent deal, and assuming Chase Roullier returns the next big ? is do we resign Scherff to a big deal or let Wes Martin take his spot? I thought Martin looked decent in his limited action so maybe they decide to save money there. I'd like to replace Morgan Moses but there are bigger needs so that's not a priority. We also need to evaluate where we're going with Geron Christian. He obviously didn't impress enough to not bring in Donald Penn on the left side.

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Defense:

Assuming Rivera/Wilks brings the 4-3 with him this is where it gets tricky. Personnel decisions will have to be made based on what type of scheme they like to run. Just as a guess but let's say they want to beef up the d-line and move to a speedier LB corps that can cover well as well as get to the line quick to stop the run. If they do that we are looking at:

D-line: Allen, Payne, and Ioannidis are solidly entrenched as starters. I bump Tim Settle up to starting next to Payne on the interior and bring in another DT as a reserve. Not sure who the reserve ends should be but they'll make a move or two to shore that up.

LB: This is where it gets really tough. Do we stick with Ryan Anderson in the middle despite how underwhelming the D was this year? Do we bring back Kerrigan? Where does Sweat fit in? Do we move Sweat to end and push Jonathan Allen inside? Sweat is too much of a tweaner right now so he would need to bulk up to 280-300 to play line.

Maybe Rivera/Wilks stick with the 3-4 given the personnel we have. If we do that though I would hope they look at drafting a mike who could replace Ryan Anderson as d-playcaller. We haven't had a great mike since Fletcher and everybody knows middle linebacker is basically the qb of the D. Anderson can still play the other mike spot. Reuben Foster may or may not be good but with his history I'm not counting on him to play 16 games next year.

Secondary: More incoming changes here although I'm hopeful with Wilks background maybe these guys just need some coaching up. Norman should be gone because the salary is not worth the production. Dunbar will be back at 1 corner, maybe Fabian Moreau solidifies the other outside job and Jimmy Moreland locks up the slot corner. Obviously Landon Collins will be back at SS but I'm definitely looking at replacing Nicholson at free.

P/K/LS: Good to see Tress Way get rewarded with an extension, I like Hopkins and Sundberg has been fine as LS.

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The draft:
If the Bengals are stupid enough to pass on Joe Burrow I'm selling the #2 to the highest bidder. If he goes #1 and Chase Young declares Young is the heavy favorite. If Young doesn't declare we have several options, including that LT to replace Trent.

2-3 rounds: No 2nd rounder. 3rd-7th BPA.

A summary of our current picks:
Round 1: Washington
Round 2: None
Round 3: Washington
Round 4: Washington
Round 5: Washington
Round 6: None
Round 7: Washington, Denver

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I don't see Keenum being back next year, he could probably go somewhere and at least get a chance to compete to be starter. McCoy will land wherever Jay Gruden goes to coach, nobody knows Jay's system better than Colt.

I do believe it was already reported that Jordan Reed planned to retire.

As far as RB goes, i'd think AP is in his last year or two as an active player. He is probably going to want to go somewhere to chase a super bowl. I'm not sure if Bryce Love will be able to play in 2020, but i don't think he will. Guice is probably going to be ok but it might be smart to have him on a pitch count for a while to test his durability. I would think if he tears an ACL / MCL again, his career is probably in jeopardy. We need a competing back for sure. Chris Thompson won't be here...

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Guice needs a backup RB to share the carries during a game. His injury history preludes his use as a 25-carry a game RB.
AP May stay to finish out his career.


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Sorry to see Jason Reed go, but 7 concussions is enough for a lifetime and any more could hurt him for the rest of his life.

I also see Vernon Davis gone. We need youth and pass-catching power and blocking ability at TE. I beat we’ll spend some cap money on the best TE FA available. That and draft a TE. Haskins needs a premium TE for the red zone!


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[quote=mooby;1241237]We should have a place to talk about roster moves that need to happen independent of the coaching/FO thread.

Here's my breakdown of what moves need to be made:

QB: Haskins is obviously solidified as the starter, do we re-up Keenum as the backup and/or McCoy? I like McCoy but I'm letting him walk. Possibly candidate to draft a backup in the later rounds if there's someone they like. Alex Smith should stay on the reserved/injured list for another year or possibly retires as a post-June 1st move?

RB: Guice will be back but between him, Bryce Love, and AP we're looking at an aging running back surrounded by two injury question marks. I'd bring in a late round rookie to compete with Love for the 3rd down back. I like Chris Thompson but he's probably leaving too.

WR: McLaurin, Harmon, and Steven Sims are safe. I didn't see enough out of Trey Quinn to bring him back so he can walk. If I'm Rivera, I bring in a solid possession guy to replace Harmon as the #2 and bump Harmon to #4 just so there's a veteran presence to help guide the young guns along (as well as give Haskins a solid veteran option to rely on).

TE: Arguably the #1 biggest hole on the roster. Reed should retire and Vernon Davis' contract is up, and Sprinkle is underwhelming. I would go after a veteran option through FA or trade, then draft another option to be the #2, cut Sprinkle and bring back Hale Hentges to fight for a roster spot.

O-line: The key decision here is do we bring back Trent for a year or two? Bringing him back allows us to postpone making a move for a year minimum. We should be able to resign Ereck Flowers to a decent deal, and assuming Chase Roullier returns the next big ? is do we resign Scherff to a big deal or let Wes Martin take his spot? I thought Martin looked decent in his limited action so maybe they decide to save money there. I'd like to replace Morgan Moses but there are bigger needs so that's not a priority. We also need to evaluate where we're going with Geron Christian. He obviously didn't impress enough to not bring in Donald Penn on the left side.

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Defense:

Assuming Rivera/Wilks brings the 4-3 with him this is where it gets tricky. Personnel decisions will have to be made based on what type of scheme they like to run. Just as a guess but let's say they want to beef up the d-line and move to a speedier LB corps that can cover well as well as get to the line quick to stop the run. If they do that we are looking at:

D-line: Allen, Payne, and Ioannidis are solidly entrenched as starters. I bump Tim Settle up to starting next to Payne on the interior and bring in another DT as a reserve. Not sure who the reserve ends should be but they'll make a move or two to shore that up.

LB: This is where it gets really tough. Do we stick with Ryan Anderson in the middle despite how underwhelming the D was this year? Do we bring back Kerrigan? Where does Sweat fit in? Do we move Sweat to end and push Jonathan Allen inside? Sweat is too much of a tweaner right now so he would need to bulk up to 280-300 to play line.

Maybe Rivera/Wilks stick with the 3-4 given the personnel we have. If we do that though I would hope they look at drafting a mike who could replace Ryan Anderson as d-playcaller. We haven't had a great mike since Fletcher and everybody knows middle linebacker is basically the qb of the D. Anderson can still play the other mike spot. Reuben Foster may or may not be good but with his history I'm not counting on him to play 16 games next year.

Secondary: More incoming changes here although I'm hopeful with Wilks background maybe these guys just need some coaching up. Norman should be gone because the salary is not worth the production. Dunbar will be back at 1 corner, maybe Fabian Moreau solidifies the other outside job and Jimmy Moreland locks up the slot corner. Obviously Landon Collins will be back at SS but I'm definitely looking at replacing Nicholson at free.

P/K/LS: Good to see Tress Way get rewarded with an extension, I like Hopkins and Sundberg has been fine as LS.

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The draft:
If the Bengals are stupid enough to pass on Joe Burrow I'm selling the #2 to the highest bidder. If he goes #1 and Chase Young declares Young is the heavy favorite. If Young doesn't declare we have several options, including that LT to replace Trent.

2-3 rounds: No 2nd rounder. 3rd-7th BPA.

A summary of our current picks:
Round 1: Washington
Round 2: None
Round 3: Washington
Round 4: Washington
Round 5: Washington
Round 6: None
Round 7: Washington, Denver[/quote]


I would put an asterisk next to any judgement on our defensive players.

Like "[I][U][B]*[/B]Under one of the [B]worst DC in Football history[/B], let's see how it goes with a good defensive coach[/U][/I]".

Like [I][U]ILB[/U][/I] is not worrying me one bit. I'd be really curious to see what a [I][U]Bostic-Holcomb-SDH-Anderson rotation[/U][/I] would give us if coached well.

[I][U]Secondary[/U][/I] sure needs some fresh talent, but it might not be as bad as it looks. Ie, [I][U]Nicholson still has 1 year left on his rookie contract (700k)[/U][/I], I'm curious to see if a contract year under a new defensive minded coach brings the best out of him.

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I would start by:

Resigning Scherff

Cut:
Norman
Richardson
Davis
Reed
McCoy
Penn


Trade:
Kerrigan
Ryan Anderson (might be odd man out due to switch to 4-3)
TW depending on what happens with him

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1241311]I would start by:

Resigning Scherff

Cut:
Norman
Richardson
Davis
Reed
McCoy
Penn


Trade:
Kerrigan
Ryan Anderson (might be odd man out due to switch to 4-3)
TW depending on what happens with him[/quote]

I'd give Ryan Anderson a shot at switching to a 4-3 OLB just because of how well he progressed despite such bad coaching.

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[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1241313]I'd give Ryan Anderson a shot at switching to a 4-3 OLB just because of how well he progressed despite such bad coaching.[/QUOTE]Anderson would be an awesome strong side lb in a 4-3. I'm the mold of Spikes for NE from a few years ago.

He is really strong and really smart. He's a natural fit.

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Provided that Chase Young is drafted and there is indeed a move to the 4-3, wouldn't our d-line have both Young and Sweat as D-Ends with a rotation of J. Allen, Payne, and Ionnidis as DTs? I guess you could throw Settle in that rotation of DTs as well.

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Don’t forget about Ruben Foster at ILB.

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Here’s a good article on the possibility of moving to 4-3

[url]https://riggosrag.com/2019/12/30/reports-redskins-could-switch-to-4-3-base-defense-in-2020/[/url]

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1241326]Here’s a good article on the possibility of moving to 4-3

[url]https://riggosrag.com/2019/12/30/reports-redskins-could-switch-to-4-3-base-defense-in-2020/[/url][/quote]

Barring a blockbuster trade (how many of those happen any more?) and the Bungles being insane enough to pass on Burrow, it would be pretty hard to not take Young. In that case Kerrigan is trade bait, and as article says that gives us a 6 man situational rotation on DL; Sweat, Allen, Ioinnidis, Payne, Settle and Young. The DC & DL coaches should be salivating at the scheming that allows.

Given performance this season, I'd only draft an MLB for depth if he's BPA when we pick mid rounds. Needs in the secondary outweigh replacing serviceable LB's we already have.

Norman is gone or back on a reduced contract (unlikely). I'd say that means we need a 3rd or 4th rounder on CB. I'd look in FA for a new FS and have a 3 way competition for starter with them, MN and Apke; I agree Nicholson 'might' improve in a contract year but do you want a guy that only plays to potential then? Maybe Apke is now ready to step up?

On O, I'd say the only pressing need is OL and TE, with maybe the latter more important. Moses is not going to get better though, and if we trade TW, we need to replace both tackles, so I agree with looking at a TE in FA this year. Draft a top TE talent next year.

I agree with depth at RB just in case, but AP is still signed and RB by committee has worked in a number of places. If DB and BL are injury free next year, who knows.

6 picks (excluding trades), so I'd say Young, CB, OL, OL, LB, RB. If we can maybe get a 2nd/3rd & 3rd for TW and RK, then I'd go best CB or OL in 2nd then maybe pick up a TE or FS with the 'spare' pick.

FA is hard to predict this year as the only guys I'd go after are probably going to be resigned by their current teams, particularly OL. Maybe we get lucky and Hooper/Henry are available, which might solve our TE problem for a year or 2, feeing up a pick for another need.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1241315]Anderson would be an awesome strong side lb in a 4-3. I'm the mold of Spikes for NE from a few years ago.

He is really strong and really smart. He's a natural fit.

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This.

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Mooby....nice list and analysis.

As the offseason begins, Im gonna pull out each area to look review.

Off the top of head:

1. Come up with a plan for the Oline going forward. LT and Trent issue needs to be resolved. Schreff contract to be resolved. Flowers, Roullier and Martin...young guys with a future, how they fit in.

2. Tight End position completely rebuilt with focus on balance. Guys need to be able to both block and catch.

3. Secondary....Free Safety and Corner will need help. How will new scheme affect the future...Are we a press or zone primary coverage unit?

4. RB injuries. Guice and Love have talent...coming off major injuries. We need to add a younger, healthy body.

5. Can we find an X receiver to pair outside with Terry?

6. If we go base 4-3 where does everyone fit? Usually need a deep LB core.

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2020 Cap:

212M - expected adj cap
47M - free cap space currently on the books

Anticipated Departures:

12.5M - Josh Norman, 15.5M cap hit w 3M dead
11.6M - Ryan Kerrigan, no dead money
12.5M - Trent Williams, 14.5 hit, 2 dead
[U]8.8M -[/U] Jordan Reed, 10.3 hit, 1.8 dead (his retiring may give more cap relief)

45.4M in anticipated addl cap

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92.4M = (47 + 45.5) Cap plus anticipated Cap Space w/out resinging/extending

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Anticipated Resigning/Tag/Extend:

15M - Scherff, effective cap hit should be less than this but lets assume worst case
4M - Flowers (still not sold on him as a long term answer to LG)
5M - Penn (not a long term option)
2M - Bergstrom, hes 34 but servicable, will probably be less than 2
2M - Bostic

28M total for anticipated resigning

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[B]64.4M = (92.4 - 28) anticipated cap left over after letting guys go and resigning others (includes Scherff) [/B]

[url]https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washington-redskins/cap/2020/[/url]

** Alex Smith 21.4M cap hit with another 32.2M guaranteed after 2020 really really fucking sucks. Thanks Bruce and Dan.

Re: Offseason Roster Moves Thread
 

[QUOTE=Chico23231;1241338]Mooby....nice list and analysis.



As the offseason begins, Im gonna pull out each area to look review.



Off the top of head:



1. Come up with a plan for the Oline going forward. LT and Trent issue needs to be resolved. Schreff contract to be resolved. Flowers, Roullier and Martin...young guys with a future, how they fit in.



2. Tight End position completely rebuilt with focus on balance. Guys need to be able to both block and catch.



3. Secondary....Free Safety and Corner will need help. How will new scheme affect the future...Are we a press or zone primary coverage unit?



4. RB injuries. Guice and Love have talent...coming off major injuries. We need to add a younger, healthy body.



5. Can we find an X receiver to pair outside with Terry?



6. If we go base 4-3 where does everyone fit? Usually need a deep LB core.[/QUOTE]



Nice analysis.

OL- I think Trent come back for a year or two, and they’ll resign Scherff, Flowers, Penn (depth). They should dump Moses, he had a terrible year. Replace him with a draft pick and/or Martin.

McLaurin will be paired with Steve Sims, Jr.
I think they’ll see how Harmon and Cam Sims progress for the third WR.

TE - get the best TE in FA. This is the first move they should make. Eric Ebron (Colts) will cost a pretty penny but will help Haskins immensely and the red zone problems.

RB - Guice and Love will have to rotate to keep each other fresh and unhurt. Still need to hire a good RB in case these guys can’t stay healthy.

4-3 will better suit our talent, especially if we get Chase Young. We will have an awesome pass rush.


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Two players I think Redskins should look at when it's time to sign free agent players - Gus Edwards and Byron Jones.

I'm not sure about Eric Ebron.. He didn't do much at Lions, even with Stafford throwing the ball. It is possible Eric was simply a bad fit for Lions offense since he played well with Colts.

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Kendall Fuller should be FA, bring him back

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You can agree on our rookies on these list, I would add Sims, Harmon and Martin. Haskins gets honorable for his last 3 games.

[url]http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001093812/article/top-25-nfl-rookies-of-2019-49ers-raiders-dominate-rankings?sp-cl-mc-af-pj=&source=pepperjam&publisherId=96525&clickId=2960159488[/url]

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[quote=GridIron26;1241502]Two players I think Redskins should look at when it's time to sign free agent players - Gus Edwards and Byron Jones.

I'm not sure about Eric Ebron.. He didn't do much at Lions, even with Stafford throwing the ball. It is possible Eric was simply a bad fit for Lions offense since he played well with Colts.[/quote]

Gridiron, all 3 of these guys have been in my peripheral in early free agency looks.

A little gripe with Gus Edwards...I don’t know how valuable he can be in the passing game. Maybe system related, but he is a great runner, lotta broken tackles. Imo, RB these days have to catch the ball...it opens up the offense when they do and provides another option for your QB.

Eric Ebron is good...great size and blocks well in the run game. The reason he excelled in Indy vs Detroit in passing offense was simply the Colts and frank reich feature their TEs in that scheme. Ebron would be a solid choice imo and he is hitting his prime.

If we truly go press man coverage with our corners (which Dunbar can) we need someone else too on the other which Norman couldn’t be he lost a step and was a better zone scheme...enter Byron Jones who has proven to do it in Dallas. I want to see he’s contract demand, but I like him a lot in that defense.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1241922]You can agree on our rookies on these list, I would add Sims, Harmon and Martin. Haskins gets honorable for his last 3 games.

[url]http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001093812/article/top-25-nfl-rookies-of-2019-49ers-raiders-dominate-rankings?sp-cl-mc-af-pj=&source=pepperjam&publisherId=96525&clickId=2960159488[/url][/quote]

Rookie class numbers

Cole Holcomb second in total tackle by a rookie this year, just 4 tackles behind the LB Bush in Pittsburgh. He forced 3 fumbles...not bad.

Rookie Sack leaders, Sweat ended up with 7 sacks...5th in the league ( not a bad rookie class) half sack behind Brian Burns. Had a couple forced fumbles as well.

Scary Terry...second in recs, 1 behind the leader with 59. Second in yards 919. Lead rookies most first down catches.

Rookies, pretty fuckin good. Wes Martin and Haskins had their moments as well.

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McClaurin was second in receptions even with our anemic offense most of the season and missing games, that is crazy.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1241315]Anderson would be an awesome strong side lb in a 4-3. I'm the mold of Spikes for NE from a few years ago.

He is really strong and really smart. He's a natural fit.

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I agree. Anderson is the perfect 4-3 Strong side LB.
I also really like Cole Holcomb. I feel like Cole Holcomb might be ready to raise his game. He has great LB instincts, if he can add another 10 to 15 pounds of muscle without sacrificing speed he will be an excellent sideline to sideline and coverage MLB. Plus playing MLB behind our D-Line will be a privilege for anyone who plays LB for us next season.
I would also like to clarify, I mentioned in a post a few days ago while talking about the options for freeing up cap money about Ryan Kerrigan. To be clear I really like Ryan and I do not want to lose him. Hopefully he will renegotiate a more cap friendly deal. Ryan will be a great DE in the 4-3. A DE rotation of Young, Kerrigan and Sweat would be strong and give time for Sweat to grow and develop. I am not sure Sweat is ready to be a fulltime 4-3 DE just yet.

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[quote=Chico23231;1241924]Gridiron, all 3 of these guys have been in my peripheral in early free agency looks.

A little gripe with Gus Edwards...I don’t know how valuable he can be in the passing game. Maybe system related, but he is a great runner, lotta broken tackles. Imo, RB these days have to catch the ball...it opens up the offense when they do and provides another option for your QB.

Eric Ebron is good...great size and blocks well in the run game. The reason he excelled in Indy vs Detroit in passing offense was simply the Colts and frank reich feature their TEs in that scheme. Ebron would be a solid choice imo and he is hitting his prime.

If we truly go press man coverage with our corners (which Dunbar can) we need someone else too on the other which Norman couldn’t be he lost a step and was a better zone scheme...enter Byron Jones who has proven to do it in Dallas. I want to see he’s contract demand, but I like him a lot in that defense.[/quote]

Good point on Edwards's inability to catch balls (so far). I'm thinking that we need to find a reliable RB who can run through people. We have Guice and Love who can catch and run. I don't know if we will bring Thompson back, but if so then that would be 3 RBs who can catch the ball. With that on mind along with all three RBs' injury history, I want Redskins to have a reliable RB. I also like Jordan Howard if Edwards signs somewhere else.

Your argument for Ebron is valid and I have read same argument somewhere else when I read about Ebron signing with Colts. Although I found this to be odd when we factor in the fact that Lions used their 1st round pick to draft Ebron, why would they do that if they knew they don't utilize TE much. But Ebron has shown that he can play and the only logical explanation I could think of is your point, Lions simply didn't utilize him well.

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I read somewhere that Devin Funchess might bulk up and play his original TE position next year. I wonder whether RR would try to bring him to the Redskins. Strong possession receiver with good size and speed. Add some bulk and he could do well in that role I would think.


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[quote=calia;1242421]I read somewhere that Devin Funchess might bulk up and play his original TE position next year. I wonder whether RR would try to bring him to the Redskins. Strong possession receiver with good size and speed. Add some bulk and he could do well in that role I would think.


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I'm not sure about the transition to TE part but I wouldn't oppose to giving Funchess a prove-it one year deal. We need a big receiver and he could fill in that spot.

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TE - I want the Kerry Kittles/Ertz/Gronk mold.

A guy who can equally block, run routes and catch. Weve seen that when you have just a catching TE or just a blocking TE, we are tipping our hand to the D based on our personnel package.

A good pass catching TE is nice but it limits us. I dont want to pay good money for a purely catching TE.

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With the availability of Martin and the apparent decline of Moses would any of you guys consider kicking Scherrf out to RT and starting Martin at RG?

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1242461]With the availability of Martin and the apparent decline of Moses would any of you guys consider kicking Scherrf out to RT and starting Martin at RG?[/quote]

Dang dude, that is a decent bit of original thinking. Havent heard that option floated out there before but its certainly deserving to be the top 10 of what to do with the O line options. I always liked the idea of upgrading C so Roullier could be the next man up swing IOL bc I think you need 4 starting caliber IOL with the amount of injuries to that unit (if you think you have a competitive team). But Roullier has proven me wrong and seems to be a top 15 C now so I wouldnt want to rock that boat unneccessarily.

Moses - Hes still under a decent enough contract, seemed to be the vocal leader for the O line wout Trent and can bounce back. He did cut down on his penalties. I want to give Moses one more year.

Martin - unproven to me. I wouldnt go into TC with him penciled in as starter. Now if he wins the job then great but he would be plan B for me heading into TC. And he could very well win the job against any of our IOL guys not named Scherff.

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1242461]With the availability of Martin and the apparent decline of Moses would any of you guys consider kicking Scherrf out to RT and starting Martin at RG?[/quote]

#1 they have to sign Scherrf

#2 they tried him at tackle and it was a failure

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[quote=Irrefutable;1242493]#1 they have to sign Scherrf

#2 they tried him at tackle and it was a failure[/quote]

#1 of course, but if they don't they will need to sign someone

#2 Failure is a bit strong..... to start with it was his rookie year, the incumbant RG was awful and Moses was playing well at RT..... so it was convenient to move Scherrf to RG. I am not insisting that he would be great at it now, but with five years experience it might be something worth looking at ...

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1242496]#1 of course, but if they don't they will need to sign someone

#2 Failure is a bit strong..... to start with it was his rookie year, the incumbant RG was awful and Moses was playing well at RT..... so it was convenient to move Scherrf to RG. I am not insisting that he would be great at it now, but with five years experience it might be something worth looking at ...[/quote]

I agree with your start to #2, but we know (last year being the exception) that Scherff plays guard at a very high level, so I'm fine with keeping him there for his career. Let's replace Moses if a better alternative comes available.

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RT with third round pick?

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[quote=Ohioskins;1242510]RT with third round pick?[/quote]

Again?

I wouldn't...I think Moses/Geron Christian as RT should be ok. Lets see if Christian has developed, he took improved steps this year.

Lets focus Schreff and TW situation first...securing our 2 best Olinemen.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1242511]Again?



I wouldn't...I think Moses/Geron Christian as RT should be ok. Lets see if Christian has developed, he took improved steps this year.



Lets focus Schreff and TW situation first...securing our 2 best Olinemen.[/QUOTE]+1. Our OL has the pieces if our FO does their job. That includes possibly signing to a backup role, getting Scherff on a new contract and managing TW's reintegration or exit.

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This Panther RT is a FA, I would sign him and trade Moses.

[url]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daryl_Williams_(American_football[/url])

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[quote=Ohioskins;1242510]RT with third round pick?[/quote]

not unless they get a TE in free agency

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1242514]This Panther RT is a FA, I would sign him and trade Moses.

[url]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daryl_Williams_(American_football[/url])[/quote]

So I wouldn't mind Williams at RT...but I think the contract he would garner would be much higher than Moses and his play isn't heads and tails over Moses. It wouldn't be worth it.

The only guys I like for Carolina whose contracts are up...my guy Tre Boston FS who once again was a top 3 Safety Coverage rating...he's not as strong in the Run game, but would be a clear upgrade over Nicholson.

Guard Groton and CB Bradberry could be options to join the team in free agency, but I rather not over pay these guys at all.

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I am hoping we trade anyone of value older than 30 that is not on a team-friendly deal, let Rivera get the guys he wants in FA, draft Chase young, and then BPA with whatever other picks we have. We already have a good, young, group of guys in here. Rivera has inherited a roster with a good foundation. He just needs to fill in a few glaring holes like TE, CB, and FS.

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I would like to see them work out a team friendly deal with Kerrigan. He would give some real depth at DE or OLB as needed. Plus he would give them options of developing some really crazy pass rush scenarios combined with Sweat and Young.