Sean Taylor - Will he play this season?
 

Yes or no? I get the feeling that we'll see him in Cow-Bitches uni after some jail time.

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He'll be acquitted.

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He will play, it takes forever for this type of thing to get worked out. He will most likely get suspended by the league a few games like Jamal Lewis and maybe a few more by the skins. I am going to go out on a limb and say not only will he play but he will make the pro bowl.

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i don't believe he is going to be convicted but he better be careful next time if he gets into that situation again. he will be a redskin not a cow-girl. e is just too valuable to our team.

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I read this type of felony is somewhat of a zero-tolerance law but, I haven't heard of a minimum sentence. I would hate to lose him for any time because he's one of the guys playing on defense who puts fear in opposing recievers hearts. :oink:

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[QUOTE=BossHog]I read this type of felony is somewhat of a zero-tolerance law but, I haven't heard of a minimum sentence. I would hate to lose him for any time because he's one of the guys playing on defense who puts fear in opposing recievers hearts. :oink:[/QUOTE]

Minimum sentence is 3 years in jail if convicted of aggravated assault involving a gun (which is what he's been charged with). Minimum is 20 years if he fired the gun.

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Thanks PSU'. I just reread and understood another article. It doesn't look good. I would havet to say no. He won't play again... for us. :oink:

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[QUOTE=BossHog]Thanks PSU'. I just reread and understood another article. It doesn't look good. I would havet to say no. He won't play again... for us. :oink:[/QUOTE]

It certainly looks like a tough case for ST at this point, but it's still early. Who knows what "facts" will be arising over the next few days. From what I've heard though, ST stands a very real chance at significant jail time.

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I don't see it, what sort of evidence do they really have on him?

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[QUOTE=Daseal]I don't see it, what sort of evidence do they really have on him?[/QUOTE]

An eye witness saying "he pointed a gun at me." Find the gun and that's really all you need.

It doesn't hurt the prosecution's case either that he went there twice and got into a fight with one of the guys the second time, while his friend chased another with a baseball bat.

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An eye witness, who happened to have stolen his ATV's? I'm sure the defense will have trouble poking holes in his credability.

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[QUOTE=PSUSkinsFan21]An eye witness saying "he pointed a gun at me." Find the gun and that's really all you need.

It doesn't hurt the prosecution's case either that he went there twice and got into a fight with one of the guys the second time, while his friend chased another with a baseball bat.[/QUOTE]

You know this is interesting. Because if the people did steal the ATV's, they'd get in trouble for that too. So I wouldnt be suprised if they all came to some agreement or somthing. I dont really know if that sort of thing would happen, I'm not a big legal guy.

However, at this point, I dont know if Taylor is oging to play or not. I defintley think he will get a slap on the wrist by either the league or Joe Gibbs; so he wont play a full season. But I wouldnt be shocked if he played at some point during the season.

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[QUOTE=Daseal]An eye witness, who happened to have stolen his ATV's? I'm sure the defense will have trouble poking holes in his credability.[/QUOTE]

Well, first you are making an assumption that they did, in fact, steal the ATVs. Putting that aside for a moment and assuming that you are correct, it would certainly make for a weaker case for the prosecution. However, let's not forget that the theft of the ATVs in NO WAY exonerates ST of his crime. It does not excuse it, and it will not be a defense to the charges. In fact, a rather significant battle (to which the jury would not be privy) would, I'm sure, take place between the prosecution and the defense as to whether or not the theft is even admissible to impeach the witness. The main reason being that accusing ST of this crime in no way helps the alleged thief escape liability for his own crime. Trust me when I say a full analysis of whether the alleged theft is admissible would take pages to brief, and I'd have to do some research into Florida evidence law to do it (and I don't have time and i'm guessing most people won't care), so let's just say the theft isn't a sure bet for ST to get off (again, [u]assuming[/u] the alleged victim did, in fact, steal the ATV).

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Give me one and a half more months and then I'll vote on this poll. I can't vote on it before late July when the legal situation should be cleared up a bit more. We don't know what the State's evidence is and we don't know how Gibbs is REALLY reacting to this mess.

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Too early to tell at this point, but I voted yes out of pure optimism. I'm not a fan of Taylor off the field, but on the field the kid still has a ton of potential and is a star in the making.

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[QUOTE=Gmanc711]You know this is interesting. Because if the people did steal the ATV's, they'd get in trouble for that too. So I wouldnt be suprised if they all came to some agreement or somthing. I dont really know if that sort of thing would happen, I'm not a big legal guy.
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Actually the fact that these alleged victims called 911 at all seems to suggest to me that they didn't steal the ATVs to begin with. If they did, why in God's name would they want the cops around? If they stole them, I would think they'd let it go, unless they are the dumbest criminals in history.

As to any deal, at this point it is out of both ST's and the alleged victims/thieves' hands. The prosecution has pressed charges. Once the state is involved, only the state can make the case go away. No private agreement between ST and the others would have any effect on the state prosecuting its case against ST.

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PSU - I realize it doesn't let ST off, but I have a feeling it doesn't help them look like model citizens and their testimony may not be great. If they can't find a weapon with his prints on it, I bet that charge gets thrown out. The other charge isn't THAT big of a deal.

I bet a plea gets copped before long. Sean Taylor donates a few mil to Dade county and his problems disappear. The legal system in this country is great if you have the money to avoid it! I have a feeling he won't even see a court room, unless they feel like the state doesn't have any sort of case.

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My guess is that Sean is REALLY GOOD at talking his way out of sh**. His dad is a cop, and Sean is a rebellious thug. No doubt he's developed a seriously good appology speech when coming in late as a teenager. Remember how he got out of that DWI? And he conned Gibbs and WIlliams into thinking he was a classy guy.

We'll see.

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Im encouraged by that train of thought. Here I thought he was an idiot with more talent than 97% percent of the league at his position. But he now appears to be clever enough to lie. I'm excited about the future. And as soon as Sean gets out of the 1 year probation, no jail time, he will be too.

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I think that lost in all of this is that those bitches had it coming.

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Yeah i agree with jdlea, you cant mess with a hommie like that lol.

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[QUOTE=PSUSkinsFan21]Well, first you are making an assumption that they did, in fact, steal the ATVs. Putting that aside for a moment and assuming that you are correct, it would certainly make for a weaker case for the prosecution. However, let's not forget that the theft of the ATVs in NO WAY exonerates ST of his crime. It does not excuse it, and it will not be a defense to the charges. In fact, a rather significant battle (to which the jury would not be privy) would, I'm sure, take place between the prosecution and the defense as to whether or not the theft is even admissible to impeach the witness. The main reason being that accusing ST of this crime in no way helps the alleged thief escape liability for his own crime. Trust me when I say a full analysis of whether the alleged theft is admissible would take pages to brief, and I'd have to do some research into Florida evidence law to do it (and I don't have time and i'm guessing most people won't care), so let's just say the theft isn't a sure bet for ST to get off (again, [u]assuming[/u] the alleged victim did, in fact, steal the ATV).[/QUOTE]

It's just ridiculous to pull a gun in that situation. Tayor has so much money it would be like you or I pulling a gun on someone for stealing your mountain bike. You can't threaten someone with death for thinking they might have stolen something.

If he caught the guys with the ATVs when he found them, whipped thier butts, and took his stuff back, I don't think I would have as much of a problem with it.

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[QUOTE=jdlea]I think that lost in all of this is that those bitches had it coming.[/QUOTE]

:lol:

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[QUOTE=GoSkins!]It's just ridiculous to pull a gun in that situation. Tayor has so much money it would be like you or I pulling a gun on someone for stealing your mountain bike. You can't threaten someone with death for thinking they might have stolen something.

If he caught the guys with the ATVs when he found them, whipped thier butts, and took his stuff back, I don't think I would have as much of a problem with it.[/QUOTE]

Agree...I almost get the feeling this wasn't just anyone who allegedly stole his ATV. Could be that Taylor had some long running beef with these guys

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[QUOTE=jdlea]I think that lost in all of this is that those bitches had it coming.[/QUOTE]

Sean forgot that he's a millionaire. He doesn't need to get his hands (and reputation) dirty with this sort of thing. Have your "people" take care of it! Send Rosenhaus over! C'mon Sean!

Re: Sean Taylor - Will he play this season?
 

put yes only because at this time it looks like he'll probably get a suspension and some probation type thing worked out... that and the slow legal system probably wont decide until after he's finisshed serving his nfl suspension.

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He better not get more of a suspension than Jamal Lewis because what Lewis did was 10 times worse. Drug trafficing and threatening people who stole from you aren't the same ballpark. Ain't no ballpark...ain't even the same f*ckin sport. He should get half of what Lewis got. I can't remember what Lewis got now, but whatever it was divide it in half and give Sean Taylor that.

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Jamal Lewis got 4 months.

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I meant suspension from the league.

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The year is oh-five and my ATVs are gone
And it's time to enforce Sean Taylor's law.
I got two choices y'all, call up the cops or (hmm)
Bust out my gat until these suckas drop!
Now I ain't against no highway chase with Jake
And I'm too dumb to spend the cash to fight the case.
So I...pull over to the side of the road,
I heard "ST do you know where your ATVs are?"
In your garage? Around back? Behind that do'?
Do I look like a mind reader, punk, I don't know!
Am I gonna get my wheels or should I guess some mo'?
"Well you got plenty of dough and you can buy some more
So I think I'm gonna keep 'em. Wait, don't get out of your car,
Are you carryin' a weapon on you? I know a lot of you are."
Oh I'm steppin out of shit and I'mma lay down a hit!
"Well, I think I'm gonna run down the street a little bit!"
Well run all you want cause I'mma bust out my strap
And my boy Caughman will chase you with his baseball bat!
"Well aren't you completely wack, you some type of psycho or somethin'?
"Can't control your emotions or somethin'?"
Yeah I ain't grown up yet but I know a little bit
Enough that you won't illegally steal my shit!
"We'll see how tough you are when the five-oh come"
I got 99 problems but Coach Gibbs ain't one!

Re: Sean Taylor - Will he play this season?
 

I think Sean Taylor will be suspended for at least some part of the season - maybe the first six games or something like that. Hopefully he will be acquitted.

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Yes he'll either get probation, or a sentince similar to Lewis

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Who knows, let's just wait and see. We can't guess what how the league will respond until we know the final outcome of the criminal prosecution - which is far from certain.

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Stop.........probation...and A Fine.....and Too The Person He Pointed The Gun At.......half A Million.....he Will Be Back

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[QUOTE=jdlea]I meant suspension from the league.[/QUOTE]
He got 4 games, but I think that was because he was a second time offender of the substance abuse policy..