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Burgold 03-25-2020 01:42 PM

Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?
 
I for one don't think that there will be an[NFL]season,with all that is going on now with folks coming down with the virus,folks keeping a distance and all,I don't see it..any opinions?

skinsfan69 03-25-2020 01:43 PM

Re: Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?
 
NBA and baseball will play within a few months. Probably sometime in June. Not sure about hockey. Why would they cancel NFL? It's not happening.

CRedskinsRule 03-25-2020 02:18 PM

Re: Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?
 
NFL doesn't start till August, and that is preseason. IF we are still in this mode then, we will have much bigger worries than whether or not the NFL plays.

But in seriousness, coronavirus will be a talking point by July. Not that it will or won't be a concern, but we will have a handle on it for sure.

BigHairedAristocrat 03-25-2020 03:34 PM

Re: Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1248081]NFL doesn't start till August, and that is preseason. IF we are still in this mode then, we will have much bigger worries than whether or not the NFL plays.

But in seriousness, [B]coronavirus will be a talking point by July. Not that it will or won't be a concern, but we will have a handle on it for sure[/B].[/quote]

Unfortunately, I do not think this statement will age well.

MTK 03-25-2020 03:36 PM

Re: Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?
 
Too early to pull the plug on the season.

GridIron26 03-25-2020 03:51 PM

Re: Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?
 
[quote=MTK;1248090]Too early to pull the plug on the season.[/quote]

Yep, we know a little about COVID.. There's a chance we will figure out how to contain COVID within few weeks and there's a chance we won't be able to figure out how to contain it until months later. At this point, it's too early to determine for anythings that will occur months later. Only things we know for certain is what to do for next couple of weeks, which is to isolate yourself.

CRedskinsRule 03-25-2020 04:29 PM

Re: Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?
 
[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1248089]Unfortunately, I do not think this statement will age well.[/quote]

if we don't have a handle on it by July, this country is in serious trouble, that is 3 months from now, with the virus having about a 4 month curve. Obviously, we don't have a full view yet of the US situation, but with testing in much higher gear, and the protective orders taking hold, I expect/hope we have a reasonable expectation of understanding it's scope within the next month, and by July whatever the new norm is, life will have moved into it's new path with regards to coronavirus.

FrenchSkin 03-25-2020 08:54 PM

Re: Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?
 
One option that I haven't seen discussed, (which makes sense because we're far from the point where it would become necessary), would be to play the season (or part of it) in [I][U]empty stadiums[/U][/I] (wouldn't change that much for us and a couple of franchises ^^).

The reasoning is that most of the money coming from [I][U]TV deals[/U][/I], if that sh*t was to linger until September, the NFL could be willing to lose a piece of the cake in order to salvage most of it vs losing all the cake.

I've been spending quite a lot of time in Japan these days, and watching a lot of sumo wrestling. They held the March tournament [I][U]without any audience[/U][/I], checking all wrestlers' [I][U]body temperature 3 times a day[/U][/I], any wrestler going [I][U]above 38,5°[/U][/I] had to withdraw for one day, be checked for corona, and they would have cancelled the tournament if one out of the 650+ wrestlers had corona.

I understand the NFL is a way bigger business and that this system would be way more complicated to implement on a 2200 players (+coaches+refs++++) split on 30 different locations (vs 650 wrestlers in one location) ... but if corona was threatening this huge business, I don't think it's crazy to think the NFL would be willing to try just about anything to generate some $.

Buffalo Bob 03-25-2020 09:10 PM

Re: Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?
 
[quote=FrenchSkin;1248117]
I've been spending quite a lot of time in Japan these days, and watching a lot of sumo wrestling. They held the March tournament [I][U]without any audience[/U][/I], checking all wrestlers' [I][U]body temperature 3 times a day[/U][/I], any wrestler going [I][U]above 38,5°[/U][/I] had to withdraw for one day, be checked for corona, and they would have cancelled the tournament if one out of the 650+ wrestlers had corona.
.[/quote]

They finally stopped playing Australian Rules Football, they just cancelled the season, they played through this past weekend. Looks like Sumo Wrestling is the only sport left.

FrenchSkin 03-25-2020 09:13 PM

Re: Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?
 
[quote=Buffalo Bob;1248120]They finally stopped playing Australian Rules Football, they just cancelled the season, they played through this past weekend. Looks like Sumo Wrestling is the only sport left.[/quote]

Not even that my friend, the tournament ended last Sunday... :frustrated:

Burgold 03-26-2020 02:06 PM

Re: Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?
 
Two things are gonna wreck this season-paranoid folks-tramatized folks,after being told not to stand within 6ft of others over the coarse of several months folks aren't gonna just jump back into it,because this virus is gonna be in the back of folks minds,if somebody sneezes near you at the game you're gonna wonder if it's more than a sneeze..as I said-HUMAN NATURE...AIN'T GONNA BE NO FOOTBALL THIS SEASON!!

skinsfaninok 03-26-2020 02:11 PM

Re: Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?
 
I help coach HS Football and that is is serious doubt right now, its scary and a real issue. I hope we do have football but right now I'd say it's 50-50

CRedskinsRule 03-26-2020 02:56 PM

Re: Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?
 
[QUOTE=Burgold;1248173]Two things are gonna wreck this season-paranoid folks-tramatized folks,after being told not to stand within 6ft of others over the coarse of several months folks aren't gonna just jump back into it,because this virus is gonna be in the back of folks minds,if somebody sneezes near you at the game you're gonna wonder if it's more than a sneeze..as I said-HUMAN NATURE...AIN'T GONNA BE NO FOOTBALL THIS SEASON!![/QUOTE]Speaking of paranoid folks...

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MTK 03-26-2020 03:17 PM

Re: Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?
 
My totally uneducated guess is in 6-8 weeks we’ll be able to dial back on restrictions in hot areas like NY. There will likely be another wave of infections so some social distancing restrictions will need to stay in place for another 4-6 weeks beyond that. By July the worst may be behind us and we could be starting to get back to normal.


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skinsfaninok 03-26-2020 03:19 PM

Re: Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?
 
^ I hope so man

BigHairedAristocrat 03-26-2020 03:37 PM

Re: Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1248100]if we don't have a handle on it by July, this country is in serious trouble, that is 3 months from now, with the virus having about a 4 month curve. Obviously, we don't have a full view yet of the US situation, but with testing in much higher gear, and the protective orders taking hold, I expect/hope we have a reasonable expectation of understanding it's scope within the next month, and by July whatever the new norm is, life will have moved into it's new path with regards to coronavirus.[/quote]

This will not happen if POTUS follows through with his statements on trying to have everything return to normal by Easter. Not going to get into political aspect of things here, but if that happens, this will likely not be over with by July. We really need to take this one day at a time, one week at a time, one month at a time. There are too many unknowns right now to make any declarations about July.

CRedskinsRule 03-26-2020 03:54 PM

Re: Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?
 
[QUOTE=BigHairedAristocrat;1248190]This will not happen if POTUS follows through with his statements on trying to have everything return to normal by Easter. Not going to get into political aspect of things here, but if that happens, this will likely not be over with by July. We really need to take this one day at a time, one week at a time, one month at a time. There are too many unknowns right now to make any declarations about July.[/QUOTE]

Also sorry for adding to the politics but that was not at all what POTUS said/meant. He did mean that there are areas of the country that could move to normal faster than others. NYC, for example, isn't going to be normal by easter, but Ames Iowa, for example, might be.

I tend to keep the belief and hope that the US is stronger and more resilient than this virus even using a 4 month outlook

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sandtrapjack 03-26-2020 04:24 PM

Re: Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?
 
It will the affect season. Sure the preseason is in August. But the draft is in jeopardy, training facilities are locked, rookie and veteran mini camps are in jeopardy, offseason workouts and OTAs are in jeopardy. Some or all of these activities will be cancelled.

Maybe they start the season on time. But the loss of the offseason activities will have an adverse affect on what happens in September.

jamf 03-26-2020 05:01 PM

Re: Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1248193].... He did mean that there are areas of the country that could move to normal faster than others. NYC, for example, isn't going to be normal by easter, but Ames Iowa, for example, might be.

I tend to keep the belief and hope that the US is stronger and more resilient than this virus even using a 4 month outlook

[/quote]
Can you have an NFL season without fans in the stadium?

Getting herded like cattle into a stadium for a sporting event or concert is going to riskier than banging a Thai Ladyboy without a rubber.

Most people not in the healthcare industry are going to be faced with job/money insecurities till there is a full economic rebound so people are going to cut spending.


Sports Arenas are designed to herd humans, not social distancing. Could you imagine what the line to take a piss at Fedex Field would look like if they followed the 6 foot rule? You would have to remove half the urinals at least and the line would start by the metro station.

No vaccine, no fans in the stands.

CRedskinsRule 03-26-2020 05:07 PM

Re: Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?
 
[quote=jamf;1248196]Can you have an NFL season without fans in the stadium?

Getting herded like cattle into a stadium for a sporting event or concert is going to riskier than banging a Thai Ladyboy without a rubber.

Most people not in the healthcare industry are going to be faced with job/money insecurities till there is a full economic rebound so people are going to cut spending.


Sports Arenas are designed to herd humans, not social distancing. Could you imagine what the line to take a piss at Fedex Field would look like if they followed the 6 foot rule? You would have to remove half the urinals at least and the line would start by the metro station.

No vaccine, no fans in the stands.[/quote]

Purell showers while standing in line?
A player is down when a defender comes with in 2 yds? All defenders must give a 6 ft buffer?

Seriously though, no one has ideas on the exact next steps, but 4-6 months is a very long time for the scientists to be devoting their energies to it not to mention the computing power at work as well. We may see other medical breakthroughs as a part of the extreme conditions right now

sdskinsfan2001 03-26-2020 05:16 PM

Re: Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?
 
Redskins game time hazmat suits coming soon to a store near you.

BigHairedAristocrat 03-26-2020 07:02 PM

Re: Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1248193]Also sorry for adding to the politics but that was not at all what POTUS said/meant. He did mean that there are areas of the country that could move to normal faster than others. NYC, for example, isn't going to be normal by easter, but Ames Iowa, for example, might be.

I tend to keep the belief and hope that the US is stronger and more resilient than this virus even using a 4 month outlook

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I'm not sure what sources you are reading, but you are adding nuance and context to the President's context that were not present his his actual comments on the matter. I watched him speak live.

Basically, you are hoping he won't be as reckless with American lives as his comments suggest - which will hopefully be the case.

You are also hoping this virus will become irrelevant by July - which will also hopefully be the case.

In both instances, I would LOVE to believe your optimistic view becomes our reality. I want you to be 100% right. But I don't think we can assume that will be the case. To be clear, I am not proclaiming doom and gloom and saying we are in for a worst-case scenario - I'm just saying we have to take this one step at a time and see where we land. Things could take a turn for the worst and then suddenly get better. Or the opposite could happen. We just need to wait and see.

[quote=CRedskinsRule;1248197]Purell showers while standing in line?
A player is down when a defender comes with in 2 yds? All defenders must give a 6 ft buffer?
[/quote]

LOL! Thank you for injecting some levity into the thread!

skinsfaninok 03-26-2020 07:32 PM

Re: Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?
 
Nobody goes to Fedex anyway

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Pervis_Griffith 03-26-2020 11:12 PM

Re: Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1248212]Nobody goes to Fedex anyway

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Or at least, not enough to threaten the social distancing standards in effect today.

AnonEmouse 03-27-2020 05:35 AM

Re: Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?
 
The problem you guys face is that if you try to return to 'normal' too soon you risk a 2nd explosion of the virus, and the way it appears your government is talking they would rather risk that than further impact the economy. Seems to me the best option to get back to anything like normal is to have a full lockdown and ride it out for a few weeks than face a recurring issue over the next 2-3 months. Our government hesitated too long but at least now it seems to be manageable with the lockdown working.

For the NFL it's a matter of starting the off-season schedule c. 2 months late and condensing the programs where possible. It's doable, but if the virus is still having an impact in May, June etc. no way.

And there is precedent of sorts for the NFL; the strike season involved quickly putting together teams that while not 1st class were entertaining. A similar attitude could easily make the 20/21 season viable.

MTK 03-27-2020 09:27 AM

Re: Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?
 
Trump can talk about Easter all he wants but places like NY are going to be under tight restrictions for a while


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skinsfaninok 03-27-2020 09:31 AM

Re: Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?
 
[quote=MTK;1248234]Trump can talk about Easter all he wants but places like NY are going to be under tight restrictions for a while


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He's just saying that so be "Positive" We all know that shit ain't happening. Cases are growing everywhere daily.

MTK 03-27-2020 10:54 AM

Re: Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?
 
[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1248235]He's just saying that so be "Positive" We all know that shit ain't happening. Cases are growing everywhere daily.[/QUOTE]


He likes to live in his own reality


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sdskinsfan2001 03-27-2020 11:17 AM

Re: Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?
 
[quote=MTK;1248251]He likes to live in his own reality

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I must've clicked on the wrong thread. I'll see myself out.

MTK 03-27-2020 11:26 AM

Re: Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?
 
Let’s check in around Easter and see how open for business we are


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SunnySide 03-27-2020 11:31 AM

Re: Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?
 
Galdi said the NFL is having the Draft as scheduled ... and in a letter to all 32 teams told them to not publicly criticize the decision since there is no benefit to that .. and teams would be subject to discipline if they do.

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Back2RFK 03-27-2020 11:34 AM

Re: Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?
 
[quote=FrenchSkin;1248117]One option that I haven't seen discussed, (which makes sense because we're far from the point where it would become necessary), would be to play the season (or part of it) in [I][U]empty stadiums[/U][/I] (wouldn't change that much for us and a couple of franchises ^^).

The reasoning is that most of the money coming from [I][U]TV deals[/U][/I], if that sh*t was to linger until September, the NFL could be willing to lose a piece of the cake in order to salvage most of it vs losing all the cake.

I've been spending quite a lot of time in Japan these days, and watching a lot of sumo wrestling. They held the March tournament [I][U]without any audience[/U][/I], checking all wrestlers' [I][U]body temperature 3 times a day[/U][/I], any wrestler going [I][U]above 38,5°[/U][/I] had to withdraw for one day, be checked for corona, and they would have cancelled the tournament if one out of the 650+ wrestlers had corona.

I understand the NFL is a way bigger business and that this system would be way more complicated to implement on a 2200 players (+coaches+refs++++) split on 30 different locations (vs 650 wrestlers in one location) ... but if corona was threatening this huge business, I don't think it's crazy to think the NFL would be willing to try just about anything to generate some $.[/quote]

So knowing that people can carry without any signs for weeks and they still had the sumo matches. They could have the event and a week latter someone shows positive and now all of them have been exposed.


By the time the season gets here we should have plenty of test. Everyone involved could be tested each week and the games played without the fans.

SolidSnake84 03-27-2020 12:44 PM

Re: Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?
 
[quote=MTK;1248234]Trump can talk about Easter all he wants but places like NY are going to be under tight restrictions for a while


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I could be mistaken or misunderstood him, but I think the surgeon general said just today or yesterday that he believes NY could still be battling this through next year.

SolidSnake84 03-27-2020 12:50 PM

Re: Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?
 
I don't see any way where the US is able to resume any sort of functional life the rest of this year. I would fear by years end, there are potentially millions of foreclosed homes, probably 100 million people or more out of work. My greatest fear is that this event turns the USA into a "third world country", with a food shortage / outages, no jobs, government and treasury out of money / disbanded, etc. Sort of an every man for himself scenario. This belief is not scientifically based, i want to point out these are my personal fears as a person who battles severe anxiety, this event is hard on me, maybe more so than most people due to underlying anxieties.

Locally, my town has cancelled all public events through the rest of this year. July 4th at the park has been cancelled. Even the Christmas Parades, festivities have been cancelled for the rest of the year.

As far as an NFL season, i think there is zero chance we have one. I think the only reason why they haven't announced it yet is to try and not cause more panic.

mredskins 03-27-2020 01:09 PM

Re: Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?
 
[quote=SolidSnake84;1248277]I don't see any way where the US is able to resume any sort of functional life the rest of this year. I would fear by years end, there are potentially millions of foreclosed homes, probably 100 million people or more out of work. My greatest fear is that this event turns the USA into a "third world country", with a food shortage / outages, no jobs, government and treasury out of money / disbanded, etc. Sort of an every man for himself scenario. This belief is not scientifically based, i want to point out these are my personal fears as a person who battles severe anxiety, this event is hard on me, maybe more so than most people due to underlying anxieties.

Locally, my town has cancelled all public events through the rest of this year. July 4th at the park has been cancelled. Even the Christmas Parades, festivities have been cancelled for the rest of the year.

As far as an NFL season, i think there is zero chance we have one. I think the only reason why they haven't announced it yet is to try and not cause more panic.[/quote]

As far as the NFL you maybe right, i think the rest of what you said is a far cry, I don't see in six months this turning into World War Z.

MTK 03-27-2020 01:19 PM

Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?
 
Well that’s certainly the doomiest and gloomiest prediction I’ve seen

How long until the zombies come out to play


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CRedskinsRule 03-27-2020 01:29 PM

Re: Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?
 
World population 7.8BILLION people. NASA is posting a sign
"Earth closed due to Coronavirus" on the moon.


The virus is going to run it's course. People will die. :( Science and Humans will adapt.
The world will reopen. The sooner the better.

Number44 03-27-2020 01:37 PM

Re: Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?
 
[quote=SolidSnake84;1248277]I don't see any way where the US is able to resume any sort of functional life the rest of this year. I would fear by years end, there are potentially millions of foreclosed homes, probably 100 million people or more out of work. My greatest fear is that this event turns the USA into a "third world country", with a food shortage / outages, no jobs, government and treasury out of money / disbanded, etc. Sort of an every man for himself scenario. This belief is not scientifically based, i want to point out these are my personal fears as a person who battles severe anxiety, this event is hard on me, maybe more so than most people due to underlying anxieties.

Locally, my town has cancelled all public events through the rest of this year. July 4th at the park has been cancelled. Even the Christmas Parades, festivities have been cancelled for the rest of the year.

As far as an NFL season, i think there is zero chance we have one. I think the only reason why they haven't announced it yet is to try and not cause more panic.[/quote]

Are you sure about that? According to the Stephens City website, the town offices are closed until further notice and at least thru March 30. I see no mention of planned activities later in the year. Could that just be a rumor that's going around? Like maybe the phrase "end of the month" got twisted into "end of the year" as word spread from person to person?

skinsfaninok 03-27-2020 01:42 PM

Re: Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?
 
[quote=SolidSnake84;1248277]I don't see any way where the US is able to resume any sort of functional life the rest of this year. I would fear by years end, there are potentially millions of foreclosed homes, probably 100 million people or more out of work. My greatest fear is that this event turns the USA into a "third world country", with a food shortage / outages, no jobs, government and treasury out of money / disbanded, etc. Sort of an every man for himself scenario. This belief is not scientifically based, i want to point out these are my personal fears as a person who battles severe anxiety, this event is hard on me, maybe more so than most people due to underlying anxieties.

Locally, my town has cancelled all public events through the rest of this year. July 4th at the park has been cancelled. Even the Christmas Parades, festivities have been cancelled for the rest of the year.

As far as an NFL season, i think there is zero chance we have one. I think the only reason why they haven't announced it yet is to try and not cause more panic.[/quote]


This is a bit drastic IMO... China is getting better by the day and they have billions of people.. I highly doubt this country folds that easy. As for sports? Who knows, maybe they will be cancelled but it's too early to tell.

FrenchSkin 03-27-2020 09:01 PM

Re: Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?
 
[quote=Back2RFK;1248265]So knowing that people can carry without any signs for weeks and they still had the sumo matches. They could have the event and a week latter someone shows positive and now all of them have been exposed.


[B]By the time the season gets here we should have plenty of test. Everyone involved could be tested each week and the games played without the fans.[/B][/quote]

Yeah I think if the situation isn't solved by then, that's a complicated but quite plausible option.


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