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Main reason for this thread - deleting posts broke the Tapatalk app view of the other thread. 2nd reason. New focus.

After today OTAs and Mini camps are done. I think no more organized team activities for about 6 weeks!! How will you get your football fix during the slow period. Prepping for fantasy? Ignoring football?
And what news are you looking for from the WFT? I know the big one is Jon Allen's extension. Hopefully it gets done. Maybe Scherff's though I still think he is gone after this year.

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Is it too soon for 2022 mock drafts? Who will be BPA at pick 32?

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1284911]Is it too soon for 2022 mock drafts? Who will be BPA at pick 32?[/quote]

Great optimism [URL="https://www.actionnetwork.com/nfl/malik-willis-scouting-report-nfl-draft-profile-2022"]Malik Willis, Liberty, SR-r[/URL]

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Brandon Scherff was in the weight room last week when newly drafted offensive lineman Sam Cosmi joined him.

"I said, 'Holy s---, Where'd you come from?'" Scherff said, then remembered he was being filmed for television. "Sorry. Excuse my French. I just said, 'Jeez Louise, Where'd you come from?'

"He started laughing, but ... he's strong. And today he showed off his speed too."

Scherff noted that the players wear tracking devices that measure their speed, and said his new goal is to catch up to Cosmi.

The rookie from Texas has made an early impression on the coaching staff, one further confirmed when they felt good enough at the position to move on from Morgan Moses.

During first-team work on Wednesday, Cosmi mostly watched while Charles Leno worked the left tackle position and Cornelius Lucas worked at right tackle, but in an NFL season, there are always plenty of opportunities to play, especially on the line.

...

As for Scherff, he's the longest tenured member of the group now, and even though he's only playing this season on a franchise tag, he takes his duties as the veteran member seriously.

"I remember Thursdays after OTAs, it was a race to (Kory Lichtensteiger's) house, and we played volleyball and everybody got together," Scherff said of his rookie season. "Just bringing the team together like that, outside of football. You can get to know your teammates a lot more with just personal stuff and not football stuff, so you can become a lot closer that way."

As for his own contract, Scherff was tight-lipped, as usual.

"I'm hoping we can work through something and get something done, but that's between my agent and the team," he said. "I'm not worried about that. I'm worried about getting better these next couple of weeks and getting ready for the season."

[url]https://richmond.com/sports/professional/washington-practice-observations-sam-cosmi-is-already-turning-heads-on-the-offensive-line/article_8e402442-8063-550c-8083-e7a7819e12f9.html[/url]

I was against tagging Scherff but in hindsight with Moses being released and Cosmi most likely being our RT, Im really happy we have the vet on for at least a year to play alongside Cosmi.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1284914]Great optimism [URL="https://www.actionnetwork.com/nfl/malik-willis-scouting-report-nfl-draft-profile-2022"]Malik Willis, Liberty, SR-r[/URL][/quote]

I like him. And the Cincinnati and Nevada QBs. All 3 probably won't be there.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1284926]I like him. And the Cincinnati and Nevada QBs. All 3 probably won't be there.[/quote]

I hate to say it (no I don't because it means we had a good season) but we will have to trade up to get a QB. Time to buy the ticket and take the ride

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[quote=SunnySide;1284924]Brandon Scherff was in the weight room last week when newly drafted offensive lineman Sam Cosmi joined him.

"I said, 'Holy s---, Where'd you come from?'" Scherff said, then remembered he was being filmed for television. "Sorry. Excuse my French. I just said, 'Jeez Louise, Where'd you come from?'

"He started laughing, but ... he's strong. And today he showed off his speed too."

Scherff noted that the players wear tracking devices that measure their speed, and said his new goal is to catch up to Cosmi.

The rookie from Texas has made an early impression on the coaching staff, one further confirmed when they felt good enough at the position to move on from Morgan Moses.

During first-team work on Wednesday, Cosmi mostly watched while Charles Leno worked the left tackle position and Cornelius Lucas worked at right tackle, but in an NFL season, there are always plenty of opportunities to play, especially on the line.

...

As for Scherff, he's the longest tenured member of the group now, and even though he's only playing this season on a franchise tag, he takes his duties as the veteran member seriously.

"I remember Thursdays after OTAs, it was a race to (Kory Lichtensteiger's) house, and we played volleyball and everybody got together," Scherff said of his rookie season. "Just bringing the team together like that, outside of football. You can get to know your teammates a lot more with just personal stuff and not football stuff, so you can become a lot closer that way."

As for his own contract, Scherff was tight-lipped, as usual.

"I'm hoping we can work through something and get something done, but that's between my agent and the team," he said. "I'm not worried about that. I'm worried about getting better these next couple of weeks and getting ready for the season."

[url]https://richmond.com/sports/professional/washington-practice-observations-sam-cosmi-is-already-turning-heads-on-the-offensive-line/article_8e402442-8063-550c-8083-e7a7819e12f9.html[/url]

I was against tagging Scherff but in hindsight with Moses being released and Cosmi most likely being our RT, Im really happy we have the vet on for at least a year to play alongside Cosmi.[/quote]

Totally picturing Maverick and Goose playing volleyball, but with an extra 150 lbs added on.

Maybe we will just win so much Scherff will knock his price down a bit so we can keep him.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1284900]Main reason for this thread - deleting posts broke the Tapatalk app view of the other thread. 2nd reason. New focus.

After today OTAs and Mini camps are done. I think no more organized team activities for about 6 weeks!! How will you get your football fix during the slow period. Prepping for fantasy? Ignoring football?
And what news are you looking for from the WFT? I know the big one is Jon Allen's extension. Hopefully it gets done. Maybe Scherff's though I still think he is gone after this year.

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Thank you so much for this thread !

Let's try to keep this one football related :laughing-

So apparently the main reason for [URL="https://thekevinsheehanshow.com/2021/06/09/chase-nigel-and-walken/"]Chase's absence at OTA[/URL] is he had some shootings during the offseason, and part of it was during the OTAs. He still could've showed up for at least a couple of days, and it was an Under Armor commercial, and they're said to be accommodating to athletes' schedules...

I don't have a big issue with that, still would've liked him to be here for part of it, as a team captain, but let the young man get his dollars, we all know he'll be one of the best on the field for us!

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JP Finlay
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Ron Rivera on going back to Richmond for training camp - "We want to make sure all those fans know we care about them"

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happy to hear that

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1284940]Thank you so much for this thread !

Let's try to keep this one football related :laughing-

So apparently the main reason for [URL="https://thekevinsheehanshow.com/2021/06/09/chase-nigel-and-walken/"]Chase's absence at OTA[/URL] is he had some shootings during the offseason, and part of it was during the OTAs. He still could've showed up for at least a couple of days, and it was an Under Armor commercial, and they're said to be accommodating to athletes' schedules...

I don't have a big issue with that, still would've liked him to be here for part of it, as a team captain, but let the young man get his dollars, we all know he'll be one of the best on the field for us![/quote]

Sounds like he was in and out of the building, and in constant communication with the coaches through it all. More than enough considering it was all voluntary.

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Florio and Simms are not my favorites, generally they seem a bit off. That said, I won't argue with their top 2 picks:
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I am stealing Chief_X's post and reposting here

[QUOTE]
Ron Rivera says Washington Football Team will have open competition for starting QB job.

[url]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/r...arting-qb-job/[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]"My biggest impression [from minicamp] is that Taylor Heinicke might not be the one-hit wonder we all thought he was... Fitzpatrick is still the starter as of now, but the guy can play, and it's not just because Tampa Bay had no idea who he was" -
@PeteHaileyNBCS[/QUOTE]

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I love that it will be a competition, but I think Fitz has to start. I hope in the preseason Heinicke gets lots of playing time to test his ability to stay healthy, Fitz balls out this year, gets a new contract elsewhere and Heinicke gives the WFT 2 contracts worth of above average to elite qb play. That would truly be Fitzmagical

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1284981]I love that it will be a competition, but I think Fitz has to start. I hope in the preseason Heinicke gets lots of playing time to test his ability to stay healthy, Fitz balls out this year, gets a new contract elsewhere and Heinicke gives the WFT 2 contracts worth of above average to elite qb play. That would truly be Fitzmagical[/quote]

I like that scenario. [URL="https://toppodcast.com/podcast_feeds/the-al-galdi-podcast/"]On episode 76 of Al Galdi's podcast[/URL] he said Heinicke's game against Tampa earned him the best Washington QB PFF grades in nearly 14 years, 92.0... and that was against your SB Defense (minus Devin White).
I agree Fitz is the starter unless Heinicke is really obviously better, but he has to legitimately be considered in the mix.

On episode 82, you can hear the clip of Ron asked about the QB competition, he talked Fitz up, then was adamant but how good Heinicke is... and did not even mention Kyle Allen even once !

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1284980]I am stealing Chief_X's post and reposting here[/quote]

Thief of the Chief...

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1284981]I love that it will be a competition, but I think Fitz has to start. I hope in the preseason Heinicke gets lots of playing time to test his ability to stay healthy, Fitz balls out this year, gets a new contract elsewhere and Heinicke gives the WFT 2 contracts worth of above average to elite qb play. That would truly be Fitzmagical[/quote]

Why does he have to start? Cause he is more experienced and makes more money? Play the best guy. Play the guy who has the better camp. Bottom line is we already know who and what Fitz is.

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I'm down to roll with #4 if he proves himself over ryan. I really like Taylor and legitimately believe deep down he is this team's future for at least a few seasons.

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[quote=Meks;1284989]I'm down to roll with #4 if he proves himself over ryan. I really like Taylor and legitimately believe deep down he is this team's future for at least a few seasons.[/quote]

Yeah I’m good with either…I trust Ron. I feel much better going into this year with Fitz&Heinke than Alex&Haskins

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Let's party like it's 1991 this year.

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[quote=Chico23231;1284996]Yeah I’m good with either…I trust Ron. I feel much better going into this year with Fitz&Heinke than Alex&Haskins[/quote]

100% same. Our qb room as far as giving this team a chance to win has been severely upgraded.

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[quote=Chico23231;1284996]Yeah I’m good with either…I trust Ron. I feel much better going into this year with Fitz&Heinke than Alex&Haskins[/quote]

No kidding haha. QB play was atrocious last year. Alex and Dwayne's QBR were like in the 30s... putrid...

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1285016]No kidding haha. QB play was atrocious last year. Alex and Dwayne's QBR were like in the 30s... putrid...[/quote]

We literally have no where to go but up at QB.

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Ron can say there's a "QB competition" all he wants, and it's definitely good to get everyone some first team snaps when you can. But I still think it's Fitz's job to lose and he'd have to be awful all summer to not be the starter week 1.

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Fitz will be the guy, they ain't paying him 10M to sit and watch.. Unless TH is the next Tony Romo or something

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@JPFinlayNBCS
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@SheehanPodcast
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“It’s Fitz’ job, he’d have perform incredibly bad to not be the week 1 starter in my opinion..... I was there at mini camp, I saw Heinicke look good, but he got 0 snaps with the first team.”

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At least we have a capable backup

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[quote=MTK;1285035]@JPFinlayNBCS
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@SheehanPodcast
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“It’s Fitz’ job, he’d have perform incredibly bad to not be the week 1 starter in my opinion..... I was there at mini camp, I saw Heinicke look good, but he got 0 snaps with the first team.”[/quote]Exactly. Don't think Fitz would be happy to ride the bench at all either. He's starting as he should. Despite the fact that's he's been a far superior NFL qb, he should start on experience and durability alone. Durability is a big concern with me and Heinicke.

Either way, qb play should be dramatically improved from last year. Fitzpatrick with these weapons and this defense is exciting boys.

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[quote=MTK;1285035]@JPFinlayNBCS
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@SheehanPodcast
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“It’s Fitz’ job, he’d have perform incredibly bad to not be the week 1 starter in my opinion..... I was there at mini camp, I saw Heinicke look good, but he got 0 snaps with the first team.”[/quote]

Yeah, Ron said he'd rather its Fitz job "to have" than to lose, but baring any surprise he'll start week 1.
They are quite high on Heinicke though.

The big surprise is how Kyle Allen is getting ditched. Ron is not even mentioning his name anymore when talking QBs.

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[QUOTE=FrenchSkin;1285217]Yeah, Ron said he'd rather its Fitz job "to have" than to lose, but baring any surprise he'll start week 1.

They are quite high on Heinicke though.



The big surprise is how Kyle Allen is getting ditched. Ron is not even mentioning his name anymore when talking QBs.[/QUOTE]I think Allen was the preferred backup for Smith due to playing style. Heinicke and Fitz seem cut from the same cloth, though Fitz got triple portion in the beard department.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1285221][B]I think Allen was the preferred backup for Smith due to playing style. [/B] Heinicke and Fitz seem cut from the same cloth, though Fitz got triple portion in the beard department.

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Good point.
But the fact we traded for him and Ron praised him several times (saying he could have had the same results if Kyle had stayed healthy etc...) had me thinking there was some sort of coach love there.
Maybe I'm just too used to seeing Jay having "his guys".

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I did find it odd how he didn't even mention Kyle, but I'm guessing in his head he's narrowed it down to Fitz and TH because you can't have a 3 way competition. It's tough enough to get 2 guys meaningful work let alone 3 in camp. Plus coming off an injury that put Allen behind from the jump. I don't think Ron is as attached to Allen as we thought last year.

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[quote=MTK;1285225]I did find it odd how he didn't even mention Kyle, but I'm guessing in his head he's narrowed it down to Fitz and TH because you can't have a 3 way competition. It's tough enough to get 2 guys meaningful work let alone 3 in camp. Plus coming off an injury that put Allen behind from the jump. I[B] don't think Ron is as attached to Allen as we thought last year.[/B][/quote]

Yeah, I think it's a great sign that Ron is not Jay in any way shape or form.
A lot of people were complaining/joking about us becoming the Washington Panthers, but he's proving us that he doesn't let past connections/relationships alter his coach judgement (Thomas Davis, Allen etc...).

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Instead of a two-week stay, Washington will be here for only one week, from Tuesday, July 27, to Saturday, July 31, before returning to Ashburn to prepare for its preseason games.

Also, the city will not be asked to make a $500,000 contribution to the team for its appearance. Instead, the team will rent out the Leigh Street facility for the week at a cost of $100,000.

The five open practices will culminate with a special workout on July 31, as all NFL teams will participate in a nationwide day celebrating the return of football.

Training camp in Richmond dates:

July 27-31

The 31st, a Saturday, will be fan appreciation day and part of a special national celebration of football the NFL is putting onhttps://t.co/GOcbjSs2U5
— michael phillips (@michaelpRTD) June 4, 2021

Also per CBA:

Days 2-3 (July 28-29 for WFT) -- helmets/jerseys are allowed, like in OTAs.

Days 4-5 (July 30-31) — shells.

Day 6 (Aug. 1) - off day. WFT will leave Richmond this day.

Day 7 can be first fully padded practice with two-a-days.
— Nicki Jhabvala (@NickiJhabvala) June 4, 2021

WashingtonFootball Team 2021 Preseason Schedule

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Do we have any idea which preseason game will be the old "3rd game" dress rehearsal where starters play the entire game? Could be the 2nd or the 3rd...or none.

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The only 2 moves this whole offseason that seems completely out of character is the Brandon Scherff tag and not announcing an extension for J. Allen I just saw a report that he will likely play on the tag. I wonder what it will take for this FO to sign their own top star to extensions. Both Scherff and Allen seem like deals that could have, and should have been done by now.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1285868]The only 2 moves this whole offseason that seems completely out of character is the Brandon Scherff tag and not announcing an extension for J. Allen I just saw a report that he will likely play on the tag. I wonder what it will take for this FO to sign their own top star to extensions. Both Scherff and Allen seem like deals that could have, and should have been done by now.

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The FO and Allen's agent are discussing extension, and based on what Allen said, the negotiation is going well.

Scherff's situation is opposite, it seems like Scherff simply wants to go to a different team.

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BS is as good as gone. He'll be 30 in December, maybe it's for the best.

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Yeah I'm over spending huge paydays on Lineman after what happened with Trent

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[QUOTE=MTK;1285878]BS is as good as gone. He'll be 30 in December, maybe it's for the best.[/QUOTE]That's a good point about his age. 30 for a guard with injuries is asking for a decline in results. Also Rivera has said one big thing he learned in Carolina was how quickly his team aged.

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