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With only 2 preseason games to go, and Training Camp ending, I figure we all have an idea of what the final 53 will look like; what the strengths and weaknesses potentially could be; and what we hope to see. So with that, I offer the annual Predict the record thread. We have some brutal games and a weird last 5 weeks, that I think will see us dominate the NFC East heading into a deep playoff run. While I think Fitz will be much more magical than tragical, Heinicke serves as a perfect backup to learn and grow through the season.

Our first 5 opponents should set the stage for our Defense VERY nicely.
2020 Rank PTS, OLINE
(W)Chargers 18, [B]32[/B]
(W)NYG 31, [B]31[/B]
(L)Bills 3 , 10
(W)Falcons 16, [B]21[/B]
(W)Saints 5 , 8

Heading into a matchup with the Chiefs in Game 6 we could be 4-1, especially if the Chargers revamped OLine is not substantially improved from their dismal PFF ranking last year.

The next stretch includes a bye - Thank goodness
(L)Chiefs -- I want to see us win, but let's be realistic they rebuilt their line and Mahomes is Mahomes
(L)Packers -- ditto with Rodgers is Rodgers
(W)Broncos
Bye
(W)Bucs - a revenge game for the team and Fitzpatrick
(W)Panthers

Then comes the Home Stretch - this team will be hungry to prove they weren't a fluke:
(L) Seahawks - Until we beat RW consistently, I have to give them this
(W) Raiders
(W) Dallas
(W) Philly
(W) Dallas
(L) Philly
(W) NYG

Rivera's teams have normally been strong in December (I couldn't find a good splits database to back this up but [URL="https://247sports.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/Article/Ron-Rivera-Panthers-December-record-125440326/"]here is a link to an article[/URL] while he was in Carolina (it is older)

I think we will only lose one of the last 5 division games, I chose Philly but it could be any one of them.

With that, I think we win the East again with a record of 12 - 5. I believe we will be competitive in every game, but the top ranked passers will give us fits, and our offense has to be able to put up at least 27 pts per game average. That was tough last year. This year I hope it is the bare minimum. Field Goals will be at a premium Hopkins/Cheeseman!!!

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I like it CR, I think the 8-9 win window is under.. I'd be a little disappointed if this team isn't a 10 win team. The talent is there as is the coaching.

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Rivera is 24-12 in his last 4 games of every season he has coached. He has gone:
4-0 twice
3-1 three times
2-2 three times (including last year with our qb issues)
1-3 once.

Out of the 4 coaches in the NFC East, Rivera is the most capable to lead his team in December. Judge is to temperamental, Siriannis is to flaky and unsure, and McCarthy has JJ breathing down his back.

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8-9

miss playoffs by a game

pick in mid round

worst possible outcome

lucky to go .500 in division, which I think will be much improved

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I'm going big and saying 11-6 repeat NFC East champs

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[quote=SunnySide;1287775]8-9

miss playoffs by a game

pick in mid round

worst possible outcome

lucky to go .500 in division, which I think will be much improved[/quote]

I think Dallas, assuming health on the offense, will win 10 to 12 games. They have the most favorable schedule in the division, and their offense is explosive.
We will have to sweep them, and be focused throughout the season to repeat as NFCE champs. It definitely won't be easy, but I think we have the team that can, and I trust Rivera/JDR's defense to close out teams late in the games. We just can't spot teams 14 to 20 points due to incompetent 1st quarters like we consistently did last year.

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10-7

Sweat and Chase combine for 25+ sacks.

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I would accept 9-8, less than that would be disappointing. Anything in double digit wins is a bonus.
WFT need to go 4-1 in the first five games
The Chargers WK1 aren't playing Herbert or major star players in the PS so I think we have a good chance to get out to a fast start that the other teams in our division wont.

3-3 in the middle six up to Seattle, I think that the Offence will be up to speed and we have a chance to steel a couple.

flip a coin on the Raiders game.

3-2 in the final division games ( split with Dallas and NY)

which would give them a 11-6/10-7 record, quite respectable.

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10-7 but with a playoff win. Our non-common opponents schedule is fairly brutal (Bills, Packers, Seahawks) and that is probably worth one more loss and keeps us from separating from the herd in the NFC East. But I think it will be a battle tested 10-7 that gets us into the playoffs, and we win a game there, and make the divisional round game a very close one.

We close the 2021 season feeling very good about our future prospects, and become a destination of choice for QBs looking to move onto a better situation.

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[quote=Schneed10;1287791]10-7 but with a playoff win. Our non-common opponents schedule is fairly brutal (Bills, Packers, Seahawks) and that is probably worth one more loss and keeps us from separating from the herd in the NFC East. But I think it will be a battle tested 10-7 that gets us into the playoffs, and we win a game there, and make the divisional round game a very close one.

We close the 2021 season feeling very good about our future prospects, and become a destination of choice for QBs looking to move onto a better situation.[/quote]

I think we can beat one or two of those 3 teams mentioned but I agree 10 wins seems like the most realistic.

Dallas will be better if Dak is 100%
Eagles are an toss up
Giants look like a problem ready to happen

We should be favored to win the east

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1287793]I think we can beat one or two of those 3 teams mentioned but I agree 10 wins seems like the most realistic.

Dallas will be better if Dak is 100%
Eagles are an toss up
Giants look like a problem ready to happen

We should be favored to win the east[/quote]

I can never root for the Cowboys, Eagles or Giants, but I would like to see the division relevant again. Would be nice if our 10-7 comes along with NFC East wins, but against better NFC East teams.

Still I'd take wins over shitty NFC east teams than losses to good ones :laughing-

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17-0 then the Covid Zeta variant hits and the NFL is forced to cancels the Super Bowl.

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Of course, it all hinges on how good this offense will be. It is really tough to imagine that this team won't take a step or maybe even a leap forward. Barring any serious injury issues, I think the defense will be top 3. If the offense can score points - especially early - this team could go deep into the postseason.

If the offense clicks, and they stay relatively healthy, I have them going at least 11-6 and winning the NFC East. 4-2 in the division and 7-4 outside the division.

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Every year it's so easy and fun to bet against Dallas so I'll do it again this year. Unless Dak is 100% and balls out I don't think they can overcome McCarthy being a shitty head coach.

Overall I think the NFC East could be a lot like it was last year. NY and Phi have serious question marks all over the place. Crazy to say it but I think Washington is the most stable team in the division right now in terms of coaching and talent.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1287804]Of course, it all hinges on how good this offense will be. It is really tough to imagine that this team won't take a step or maybe even a leap forward. Barring any serious injury issues, [B]I think the defense will be top 3[/B]. If the offense can score points - especially early - this team could go deep into the postseason.

If the offense clicks, and they stay relatively healthy, I have them going at least 11-6 and winning the NFC East. 4-2 in the division and 7-4 outside the division.[/quote]

I will be VERY impressed if we get into the top 3. We will play multiple good to great QBs so it will be challenging for the defense to contain all QBs.

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[quote=GridIron26;1287809]I will be VERY impressed if we get into the top 3. We will play multiple good to great QBs so it will be challenging for the defense to contain all QBs.[/quote]

You're right, it would be very impressive, especially given the competition this year. But as far as 'points allowed' goes, I think it is very doable as long as there isn't a rash of injuries.

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I think the NFC east could be a toss up with us, giants and boys. Eagles may have to go through some growing pains with Hurts.

giants offense added FA wr Kenny Golladay, drafted speedster Toney, FA te kyle rudolph to pair with Engram plus a healthy Barkley. If Barkley played last season, we are probably watching them in the playoffs.

defense they added added Adore Jackson to pair with lockdown corner Bradberry. Bradberry balled last year imo. drafted a touted pass rusher in the 2nd round who fell.

idk man .. i think its going to be some real competitive, no cake walk NFC east. Plus we play the harder schedule in the NFC east.

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The Giants offensive line is awful. So is their quarterback. Their offense could add Jerry Rice in his prime and it wouldn’t be enough. It is between us and Dallas until Dak gets dinged up.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1287777]I think Dallas, assuming health on the offense, will win 10 to 12 games. They have the most favorable schedule in the division, and their offense is explosive.
We will have to sweep them, and be focused throughout the season to repeat as NFCE champs. It definitely won't be easy, but I think we have the team that can, and I trust Rivera/JDR's defense to close out teams late in the games. We just can't spot teams 14 to 20 points due to incompetent 1st quarters like we consistently did last year.[/quote]

Dak is broken y’all. Shoulder is not well. Even if he starts the regular season he’s not playing the whole season. Our defense is going to “Carson Wentz” him. And their current #1 QB starting this week Gilbert is, well…

The only threat to us I see this year is the Giants I’d Daniel Jones stops turning the ball over (which I doubt bc their oline is a wreck.

So kids, even at 8-9, we’ve got the division this year. Grab you juice boxes and enjoy back to back division championships.

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The Chargers last time I checked were a 1 point road favorite which was shocking to me. Maybe Vegas knows something we don't lol. I think we drop one to either the Chargers or Saints. I think 12 is stretching it but I could see 10-7.

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The opening spread is now even on most sites

Predictions and Projections 2021 WFT Results
 

[QUOTE=SunnySide;1287813]I think the NFC east could be a toss up with us, giants and boys. Eagles may have to go through some growing pains with Hurts.

giants offense added FA wr Kenny Golladay, drafted speedster Toney, FA te kyle rudolph to pair with Engram plus a healthy Barkley. If Barkley played last season, we are probably watching them in the playoffs.

defense they added added Adore Jackson to pair with lockdown corner Bradberry. Bradberry balled last year imo. drafted a touted pass rusher in the 2nd round who fell.

idk man .. i think its going to be some real competitive, no cake walk NFC east. Plus we play the harder schedule in the NFC east.[/QUOTE]


Toney has been dreadful in camp and the PS. I think he may be a bust. Their O line has issues too. But the Giants D is stout.

Dallas - honestly, I have no idea. Dak being healthy is key and he hasn’t been so far. The Ewok needs to step up too and then am hoping that he and his fanny pack suck like last year. But they could be dangerous and their D will improve (it has only one way to go).

I think Philly will be dreadful.

I seen us as 11-6 best case.


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9-8 or worse.

Fitzpatrick will be equal parts magic and tragic. The rest of the squad is good to great - but qb is the biggest factor in terms of offense putting up points and he will have moments where we are convinced he's a stud but he will also have equal moments of inaccuracy and turnovers. It will be frustrating and there will be fans calling for Ron's head for him going with Fitzpatrick (ignoring that 2/3 teams in the NFL were also looking for a qb this offseason).

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[QUOTE=mooby;1288101]9-8 or worse.

Fitzpatrick will be equal parts magic and tragic. The rest of the squad is good to great - but qb is the biggest factor in terms of offense putting up points and he will have moments where we are convinced he's a stud but he will also have equal moments of inaccuracy and turnovers. It will be frustrating and there will be fans calling for Ron's head for him going with Fitzpatrick (ignoring that 2/3 teams in the NFL were also looking for a qb this offseason).[/QUOTE]


Recent history says he is playing his best ball, and he is going into the year as the bonafide starter, and he has a full team around him. I dont know, it is possible the stars have finally aligned for Fitz.

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[quote=punch it in;1288103]Recent history says he is playing his best ball, and he is going into the year as the bonafide starter, and he has a full team around him. I dont know, it is possible the stars have finally aligned for Fitz.[/quote]

Does recent history include his first two preseason games this year? He's had some inaccurate passes, and a couple gems. The results I've seen line up consistently with his history - which is him being inconsistent.

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[quote=punch it in;1288103]Recent history says he is playing his best ball, and he is going into the year as the bonafide starter, and he has a full team around him. I dont know, it is possible the stars have finally aligned for Fitz.[/quote]

I keep hearing that his recent play has been better. While it appears that his completion percentage has improved over the last three years, with regard to interceptions he has been status quo.

Over the last six years, for every 100 pass attempts, he is throwing just over three interceptions, which is almost identical to the last three years, and almost identical to his career average. It's not good. It's below average.

While he now has a defense that can hopefully make up for some of his mistakes, with the opponents on the schedule, it will be crucial for him to improve in the INT category. Even with a great defense, it will not be in the team's best interest to give extra opportunities to J Allen, P Mahomes, A Rodgers, T Brady, R Wilson, D Prescott, et al.

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1288106]I keep hearing that his recent play has been better. While it appears that his completion percentage has improved over the last three years, with regard to interceptions he has been status quo.



Over the last six years, for every 100 pass attempts, he is throwing just over three interceptions, which is almost identical to the last three years, and almost identical to his career average. It's not good. It's below average.



While he now has a defense that can hopefully make up for some of his mistakes, with the opponents on the schedule, it will be crucial for him to improve in the INT category. Even with a great defense, it will not be in the team's best interest to give extra opportunities to J Allen, P Mahomes, A Rodgers, T Brady, R Wilson, D Prescott, et al.[/QUOTE]I think one thing that will help, and was mentioned on the last broadcast, is his receiver group are good 50/50 catchers. Not having watched Fitz closely, that may or may not make a difference but between having very good receivers (shocking to say) AND a stifling defense should help minimize the damage from Fitztragic moments.

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Skins are a .500 team which is good enough to be competitive in this division. The defense should keep us in games, but we need the offense this year to win some for us. We get that we could win 10. The offense needs to take the step the defense did last year.

I’ve been hearing recently that the Giants and Eagles are underrated especially when it comes to win totals. Simply not buying either. The Giants are gonna have big trouble with their oline…and unproven group of skill players who haven’t played together. Barkley they says is on schedule but he’s not fully back. Eagles defense isn’t that great and there QB…a big question mark with a rookie HC…?

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Yeah, I'm looking for more than 'competitive in the division'. I'm looking for at least one postseason win, if not a trip to the NFC Championship game. The offense will most definitely have to take a step or two forward, and Fitz will have to be better than usual, in order to do that. Hopefully his new supporting cast will make a difference, and help him get it done.

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Really tough to predict the Redskins record but I think both offense and defense improved (Defense in secondary and offense at QB and WR) so I think they will repeat as division champions and win at least one playoff game.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1287824]The Chargers last time I checked were a 1 point road favorite which was shocking to me. Maybe Vegas knows something we don't lol. I think we drop one to either the Chargers or Saints. I think 12 is stretching it but I could see 10-7.[/quote]

We are going to have our handful with the chargers.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1288113]We are going to have our handful with the chargers.[/QUOTE]Their Oline is average or less. Between that and the lack of preseason play of Herbert, I think our D will stifle their offense. Not sure about their D vs our O. That will tell us something about our season.

Plus they have a whole new coaching staff. They may have some kinks to work out across the board.

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I say we go-12-5 and play Tampa in the NFC Championship game, we lose but wait til next year!!!

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1288114]Their Oline is average or less. Between that and the lack of preseason play of Herbert, I think our D will stifle their offense. Not sure about their D vs our O. That will tell us something about our season.

Plus they have a whole new coaching staff. They may have some kinks to work out across the board.

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I think the first half will be as you say but am curious to see how both teams look after halftime when they can make adjustments and the players get settled in.

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[QUOTE=sevier2;1288997]I think the first half will be as you say but am curious to see how both teams look after halftime when they can make adjustments and the players get settled in.[/QUOTE]I think our staff last year excelled at adjustments. Their staff is entirely new. I do think we are lucky to get them 1st game. They are a team that will gell over the first 3 or 4 weeks.

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[B]1 vs Chargers W[/B] tough game, but if [I]our Oline can handle their Dline[/I], I have us coming on top. I like our Dline vs their Oline, and especially[I] Chase Young in his second year, fully healthy[/I] (we kinda forgot but he wasn't last year, dealing with a hip injury in camp, then the groin), vs a [I]rookie LT[/I]. Could definitely go both ways though, they have a good team.

[B]2 vs Giants W[/B] running game will be key in this one, I like their secondary, but ultimately I think our D helps us come out on top of a close defensive game.

[B]3 @ Bills L[/B] first road game, first loss, nothing to freak out about, but the Bills are tough to move the ball on, hopefully we can feel good about how close a game it was.

[B]4 @ Falcons W[/B] I say we blow them out. I like Deion Jones but a part from him the D is suspect, heck Fabian Moreau is their starting right CB. I say our secondary keeps Calvin Ridley under check and we run away with it.

[B]5 vs Saints W[/B] tough defensive game again, I still like the Saints defense (that's a LB squad...), but with Michael Thomas out at least 5 weeks, I don't see how we don't F either Taysom Hill and/or Winston up.

[B]6 vs Chiefs L[/B] they lost some players on D, but we're not there yet.

[B]7 @ Packers W[/B] I have us pulling the upset in this one. I know Rodgers is coming of an MVP season, but don't tell me the mess in GB has zero influence in their locker room, as of now they have 2 rookies in their starting OL, and I think with a Fitzmagic day our offense can score on them.

[B]8 @ Broncos L[/B] coming off a big game we slip and lose this one against a tough defense.

We reach our [B]week 9 bye week[/B] 5 and 3, feeling good about who we are, and having survived a tough stretch.

[B]10 @ Buccaneers L[/B] again, not there yet, and impressive defense.

[B]11 @ Panthers W[/B] blow out win.

[B]12 vs Seahawks W[/B] love Russell Wilson, but they still haven't fixed their Oline, lost KJ Wright on defense, and are starting a 4th round pick at CB. Close win at home.

[B]13 @ Raiders W[/B] still not impressed by that offense, and Ngakoue is not a scary enough addition to change this game in my view.

[B]14 vs Cowfucks L
[/B] I have us splitting it with Dallas, 2 tough games, we slip at home coming off a strong winning streak in the first one.

[B]15 @ Eagles W[/B] Eff the birds, new HC, suspect young QB, aging OL (side note I like that they are finally starting Samoan-Australian former rugby player Jordan Mailata at RT, he's fun to watch, cool story).

[B]16 @ Cowpukes W[/B] We get back at them after in a close over time win.

[B]17 vs Eagles W[/B] exciting clobbering of a division rival, 11 and 5, we clinch the division in front of pumped up crowd.

[B]18 vs Giants L[/B] not much to play for in this one, Rivera doesn't sit starters because he wants his guys on a roll for the playoffs, but a few mental mistakes has us lose this final game in a frustrating way, and a bit worried going into the wild card round.

[B]11 and 6[/B] [U]wins the division for us.[/U]

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[quote=punch it in;1287820]The Giants offensive line is awful. So is their quarterback. Their offense could add Jerry Rice in his prime and it wouldn’t be enough. It is between us and Dallas until Dak gets dinged up.[/quote]

Hahahahahahahaha

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I predict there will be a lot of close games, and a couple blowouts (not in our favor though) but for the most part some games we will score more points than the other team and some games we won't.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1288114]Their Oline is average or less. Between that and the lack of preseason play of Herbert, I think our D will stifle their offense. Not sure about their D vs our O. That will tell us something about our season.

Plus they have a whole new coaching staff. They may have some kinks to work out across the board.

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Don't be too dimissive of their oline, they spent a lot this off season to fix it. Their new LT , Slater, basically built his draft reputation from stonewalling Chase Young when he was at Ohio and I believe they signed the FA All Pro Centre(Lindsley?) away from the Packers

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The upside to that it is they sat their starters out of the PS, new scheme, new coaches and a long distant trip to an early East coast game. Their O line may take a few weeks to gel but they could be very good