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File this under the what the eff file:

[url]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/10/04/wft-trainer-ryan-vermillion-on-leave-due-to-criminal-investigation-unrelated-to-team/[/url]

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[quote=Ruhskins;1293899]File this under the what the eff file:

[url]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/10/04/wft-trainer-ryan-vermillion-on-leave-due-to-criminal-investigation-unrelated-to-team/[/url][/quote]

JP Finley, Grant Paulsen and Julie Carey of NBC Sports Washington and WRC report that [B]federal law enforcement agents raided the team’s facility last week[/B].

Geez .. to the level they got a judge to sign off on a search warrant to search the local pro sports team facilities. If tied to his profession, most likely px writing abuse but who knows.

Hopefully its victimless crime stuff.

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It never ends with this organization.

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[quote=MTK;1293902]It never ends with this organization.[/quote]

Worst ran organization in sports

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Lol. Another class hire by Snyders organization. [emoji849]

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[quote=SunnySide;1293900]JP Finley, Grant Paulsen and Julie Carey of NBC Sports Washington and WRC report that [B]federal law enforcement agents raided the team’s facility last week[/B].

Geez .. to the level they got a judge to sign off on a search warrant to search the local pro sports team facilities. [B]If tied to his profession, most likely px writing abuse but who knows. [/B]

Hopefully its victimless crime stuff.[/quote]

If you end up right the defensive players should ask for their money back.It isn't helping.

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I mean it's a tragic comedy how fucked up this organization is. It's about as unreal as our 3rd down defense.

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FWIW, Ron brought Vermillion to Washington. But this is crazy crazy crazy. This organization is just cursed IMO.

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At least we know it's not related to performance enhancing drugs because they've been performing like shit.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1293907]If you end up right the defensive players should ask for their money back.It isn't helping.[/quote]

Oh no, I wasnt inferring it had anything to do w the players. I dont think it does.

I had a consult w a pharmacy being indicted for px fraud this morning so perhaps im colored a bit here but feds looking into a px writing ability dr usually = px fraud

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This so far is nothing. It could very well be just them looking for documents connected to some shaddy dealings that has nothing to do with the Skins or Vermillion.

Vermillion could be 100% not be the target.

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Is PX an East coast thing and RX a west coast thing?

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Nicki Jhabvala
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Breaking: The Washington Football Team's training facility was searched by the DEA and Loudoun County on Friday, per source.

Team statement: "Ryan Vermillion has been placed on administrative leave due to an ongoing criminal investigation that is unrelated to the team."


DEA: drugs. Maybe steroids?

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[quote=punch it in;1293904]Lol. Another class hire by Snyders organization. [emoji849][/quote]

He's Rivera's guy.

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Who knows. Maybe the guy was running cocaine outta the facility and it has nothing to do with anyone else. But the whole culture change thing could take a real hit if it is steroids and players are involved.

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[quote=jamf;1293936]Is PX an East coast thing and RX a west coast thing?[/quote]

Im not a doctor I use px .. but the medicals on my desk right now from a Maryland ortho use rx.

I think RX is the formal right correct abbreviation.

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[quote=SunnySide;1293900]JP Finley, Grant Paulsen and Julie Carey of NBC Sports Washington and WRC report that [B]federal law enforcement agents raided the team’s facility last week[/B].

Geez .. to the level they got a judge to sign off on a search warrant to search the local pro sports team facilities. If tied to his profession, [B]most likely px writing abuse[/B] but who knows.

Hopefully its victimless crime stuff.[/quote]

This was my first thought as well. Robin Lehner (NHL goalie) was threatening a lot of NHL organizations on Twitter about their quote unquote "pill habits" for basically being pill mills and I suspect there might be several NFL teams that might be operating similarly. Wouldn't surprise me if Ryan Vermillion is one of the first to get nabbed for basically handing out scripts like candy. Feds aren't fucking around with that shit since that Angels pitcher died after OD'ing.

Washington trainer Ryan Vermillion on leave due to criminal investigation
 

[QUOTE=irish;1293940]He's Rivera's guy.[/QUOTE]


Yes and Rivera is Snyders guy but I hear you. It is just that slime seems to have more room to play inside our walls.
Alex Smith didn’t trust the guy. Robin West left because of him. Yet Snyder was oblivious…again.

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[quote=punch it in;1294006]Yes and Rivera is Snyders guy but I hear you. It is just that slime seems to have more room to play inside our walls.
Alex Smith didn’t trust the guy. Robin West left because of him. Yet Snyder was oblivious…again.[/quote]

Oblivious? or trusting in Jason and Ron while trying to get out from under his own sleazy past. Lots of things wrong with Snyder, but personally I don't want him looking over the shoulder at every decision that Ron makes, maybe Jason or Martin Mathew should have been more aware of the situation and talked to Ron about it. People keep complaining when Snyder gets too involved and then complain when he doesn't have a 24 hour watch on every minor employee and what they are doing. Ron hired him, it was his responsibility. Part of the reason I think Ron is so sensitive about talking about it right now when the media ask, he knows that this one is on him and knowing and trusting Vermillion for more than 10 years is a personal let down for him

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Now you see you have made me defend Snyder and I need to go take a shower

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[quote=punch it in;1294006]Yes and Rivera is Snyders guy but I hear you. It is just that slime seems to have more room to play inside our walls.
Alex Smith didn’t trust the guy. Robin West left because of him. Yet Snyder was oblivious…again.[/quote]

But for some reason Ron trusted him.

WFT is the worst organization in the NFL and one of the worst in all of pro sports. Its sad how far this organization has fallen.

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[QUOTE=EdmundDorf;1294011]Now you see you have made me defend Snyder and I need to go take a shower[/QUOTE]


Lol. I understand there are a lot of pieces, etc. But at the end of the day DS needs to be more involved with shit like this and less involved with shit like Dwayne Haskins. Use an anti bacterial soap for sure!

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[quote=punch it in;1294014]Lol. I understand there are a lot of pieces, etc. But at the end of the day DS needs to be more involved with shit like this and less involved with shit like Dwayne Haskins. Use an anti bacterial soap for sure![/quote]

Nah I'm with ED, I want my head coach to be able to hire an athletic trainer without Dan looking too much into it.
*heading to the bathtub*

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I think we need to wait for some more facts to come out before all the finger pointing begins.

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[quote=MTK;1294024]I think we need to wait for some more facts to come out before all the finger pointing begins.[/quote]

Where is the fun in that, game day threads exist mostly for finger pointing before the first quarter is done, what would this forum do with facts?

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Pedo Bear ; watch

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No finger pointing. Definitely a possibility that this guy was acting as a rogue employee. But after a while you gotta start looking at the Dan. We always wind up with the morons one way or another. Because where else are they going to go?
Alex Smith and Robin West had issues with this guy? It is the same old story. Good coaches, and good people move on while we hire losers and shifty shady shysters. Dan didn’t know about the sexual escapades. Dan doesn’t know about this dude. Dan didn’t know Dwayne Haskins was a bum. Lol. Seriously though Dan is either hiring the people or hiring the people who bring them in. There is no culture change here. Just a bunch of pr videos and bullshit. The guy is a snake and this organization will never be classy as long as a snake is in charge. End rant.

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[quote=punch it in;1294034]No finger pointing. Definitely a possibility that this guy was acting as a rogue employee. But after a while you gotta start looking at the Dan. We always wind up with the morons one way or another. Because where else are they going to go?
Alex Smith and Robin West had issues with this guy? It is the same old story. Good coaches, and good people move on while we hire losers and shifty shady shysters. Dan didn’t know about the sexual escapades. Dan doesn’t know about this dude. Dan didn’t know Dwayne Haskins was a bum. Lol. Seriously though Dan is either hiring the people or hiring the people who bring them in. There is no culture change here. Just a bunch of pr videos and bullshit. The guy is a snake and this organization will never be classy as long as a snake is in charge. End rant.[/quote]

Not defending DS, TRUST ME!

But Vermillion is RR's guy. DS isn't going sit in on every interview he hires the upper management its their job to fill their leaders.

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[quote=mredskins;1294028]Pedo Bear ; watch[/quote]

I heard Vermillion is running a child sex slave ring/pizza shop in the basement of Football Team Park.

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[quote=mooby;1294038]I heard Vermillion is running a child sex slave ring/pizza shop in the basement of Football Team Park.[/quote]

Dude! that is on the DL until TMZ breaks that news, come on!

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[QUOTE=mredskins;1294039]Dude! that is on the DL until TMZ breaks that news, come on![/QUOTE]


Jesus I knew our DL wasn’t playing well but this is too much.

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[QUOTE=mredskins;1294037]Not defending DS, TRUST ME!

But Vermillion is RR's guy. DS isn't going sit in on every interview he hires the upper management its their job to fill their leaders.[/QUOTE]


I get that. I really do. And I don’t even want to put it on Ron but we just seem to be a magnet for this shit. You can always connect the dots. We keep Gruden and lose McVay. Gruden of course gets fired. We hire another guy who gets fired who brings this guy with him. It always comes back to Dan directly or indirectly. Am I playing a big game of connect the dots? Yes. Do i feel bad for doing it? No. Dan is a douche. But trust me i know as you have said and others that the guy came with Ron. He was there for years. Of course he was our director of rehab in 2002 so Dan was familiar with the man.

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First off I'd look at Ron, it was his hire 110%. Perhaps this guy is just a bad apple that went rogue and even Ron had no clue. It's certainly possible, sometimes you never truly know someone.

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[quote=MTK;1294046]First off I'd look at Ron, it was his hire 110%. Perhaps this guy is just a bad apple that went rogue and even Ron had no clue. It's certainly possible, sometimes you never truly know someone.[/quote]

Ron has known him 10 years

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1294055]Ron has known him 10 years[/quote]

I know, doesn't mean he knows him inside and out. Everyone has skeletons.

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[quote=MTK;1294056]I know, doesn't mean he knows him inside and out. Everyone has skeletons.[/quote]

That's unacceptable at this level.
Potential first and second round draft picks have their past scrutinized.
Same should go for the team Dr and Trainers.

Whatever this is, probably isn't the first time.
It will be interesting to see if RR has a history of looking the other way on this stuff.

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If Ron had any clue he should have to answer for that. But he doesn't seem like the type to look the other way when it comes to criminal activity though does he?

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[QUOTE=MTK;1294065]If Ron had any clue he should have to answer for that. But he doesn't seem like the type to look the other way when it comes to criminal activity though does he?[/QUOTE]


Not at all, but just like his lack of attention to detail on the field,……like jamf said at this level there cannot be any excuses.

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How about we just put down the pitchforks a moment and wait for more details.

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We all do realize most criminal activity is done in a sneaky manor.

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[quote=MTK;1294076]How about we just put down the pitchforks a moment and wait for more details.[/quote]

I'm with you. We have no idea what happened yet. As for the "Ron and/or Dan should've known", I'll hold judgement so far, you see those stories of a guy having a double life and/or raping people in his basement for 20 years and his wife and kids had no clue of who they were living with ...