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Actually, sadly, it's usually never too soon with this franchise.

We have 2 more losses coming up and the Cowboys are looking like they'll run away with the division.

As per every year, we have tons of holes to fill. No 5th round pick as of now.

9: R1 P9 - QB Malik Willis - Liberty
41: R2 P9 - LB Devin Lloyd - Utah
73: R3 P9 - S Daxton Hill - Michigan
111: R4 P9 - CB Roger McCreary - Auburn
188: R6 P9 - WR Tre Turner - Virginia Tech
228: R7 P9 - OT Austin Deculus - LSU

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Have you seen Wilis play? I am curious about him.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1295033]Have you seen Wilis play? I am curious about him.[/quote]

No, not a full game at least. Just mainly highlight films.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1295021]Actually, sadly, it's usually never too soon with this franchise.

We have 2 more losses coming up and the Cowboys are looking like they'll run away with the division.

[B]As per every year, we have tons of holes to fill[/B]. No 5th round pick as of now.

9: R1 P9 - QB Malik Willis - Liberty
41: R2 P9 - LB Devin Lloyd - Utah
73: R3 P9 - S Daxton Hill - Michigan
111: R4 P9 - CB Roger McCreary - Auburn
188: R6 P9 - WR Tre Turner - Virginia Tech
228: R7 P9 - OT Austin Deculus - LSU[/quote]

We do, but you are never going to fill every need. You just need a good QB period. There have been plenty of times this season and last season that a good QB makes a difference.

If you're going to have shitty QB play, of course you are going to feel like we need to fill every hole this team has. But the problem is that we do not have a good QB. We never had a good one in a LONG time, and we don't have one right now.

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[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;1295033]Have you seen Wilis play? I am curious about him.[/QUOTE]


Read alot of very intriguing shit about him. Honestly though im going secondary all fucking day. We literally need 4 new guys back there. Inside lb’s who can cover also. Poor coaching is evident but even I could have played that hail mary better.
If you take a look at our team the glaring weakness is our back 7. On offense we don’t have an immediate problem (qb I need to see a whole season of TH - i know, i know - but seen so many good plays too - and Fitz?) like we do on d.

Gotta fix that back 7 on D. Priority numero uno.

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[quote=punch it in;1295050]Read alot of very intriguing shit about him. Honestly though im going secondary all fucking day. We literally need 4 new guys back there. Inside lb’s who can cover also. Poor coaching is evident but even I could have played that hail mary better.
If you take a look at our team the glaring weakness is our back 7. On offense we don’t have an immediate problem (qb I need to see a whole season of TH - i know, i know - but seen so many good plays too - and Fitz?) like we do on d.

Gotta fix that back 7 on D. Priority numero uno.[/quote]

Nope. We need a QB. Again, this "we need to fill every hole" thinking is not smart IMO.

This year we have teams with lots of needs, who are trotting out talented rookie QBs, and they make a difference.

Good QB play can fix a lot of things.

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It is depressing putting up a draft thread in Oct. Idk if we even have the right leadership to pick the correct players. We need a QB. End of discussion. The position needs to be strengthened. We are desperate. I would not close any door, not on Watson, Tua or someone in the draft. Justin Herbert is really fucking good. We need a stud like him and no more bums on defense.

It is a league now where offense wins, not defense. You need a great offense and bend and not break defense.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1295052]It is depressing putting up a draft thread in Oct. Idk if we even have the right leadership to pick the correct players. We need a QB. End of discussion. The position needs to be strengthened. We are desperate. I would not close any door, not on Watson, Tua or someone in the draft. Justin Herbert is really fucking good. We need a stud like him and no more bums on defense.

It is a league now where offense wins, not defense. You need a great offense and bend and not break defense.[/quote]

If Watson is cleared of his mess, I would be willing to give up the next two to three years' 1st rounders and whatever the Texans want for him.

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[url]https://www.si.com/nfl/draft/mocks/2022-nfl-mock-draft-quarterbacks-fall-and-a-defense-heavy-top-ten[/url]

Matt Corral any one?

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[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;1295174][url]https://www.si.com/nfl/draft/mocks/2022-nfl-mock-draft-quarterbacks-fall-and-a-defense-heavy-top-ten[/url]

Matt Corral any one?[/QUOTE]


Mentioned him in some other thread. Right now they are saying this draft is weak for quarterbacks but watch. There will be a few that start garnering even more attention. Corral is definitely one of them.

My biggest problem with one of them coming here is our coaching staff. We could make an established veteran look like shit. How the hell are we going to help a guy who has so much to learn? We need to draft the absolute surest thing at a position of need as possible, and hope he figures it out on his own.

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I’m all for drafting but at right cost I don’t mind using a 15th pick to draft a qb slated for late first round. In fact I’d prefer that to gambling and trading back and possibly getting scooped.if it is weak class so be it

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They cannot draft a QB with their first pick JUST because they need one, the last thing they need is another Ramsey, Campbell, or Haskins for crying out loud. Chances are they will have a top 10 pick, it needs to be a starter from day one...plenty of holes to fill so if there's a QB they love there then great, if not...pick the best player and move forward. I will bet they try to get another vet QB such as Derek Carr.

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Corral would need to add major weight, that dude would get killed in the NFL

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[quote=Redskins247;1295285]They cannot draft a QB with their first pick JUST because they need one, the last thing they need is another Ramsey, Campbell, or Haskins for crying out loud. Chances are they will have a top 10 pick, it needs to be a starter from day one...plenty of holes to fill so if there's a QB they love there then great, if not...pick the best player and move forward. I will bet they try to get another [B]vet QB such as Derek Carr.[/B][/quote]

Why would Raiders give him up?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1295288]Corral would need to add major weight, that dude would get killed in the NFL[/quote]

6'2" / 205?

He's not Josh Allen, but I think his stature is similar to several QBs currently in the league. B Mayfield, L Jackson, K Murray, and our very own Heinicke, are some who come to mind.

He'll be alright.

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1295318]6'2" / 205?

He's not Josh Allen, but I think his stature is similar to several QBs currently in the league. B Mayfield, L Jackson, K Murray, and our very own Heinicke, are some who come to mind.

He'll be alright.[/QUOTE]


I hate seeing an athletes height and weight. Every time its wow i weigh about as much as that guy does. Oh im 6 inches shorter. [emoji22]

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[quote=GridIron26;1295317]Why would Raiders give him up?[/quote]

I'm sure it will depend on how they finish this season...but that's just a hunch IMO. Always seemed they or maybe just Gruden wasn't sold on him. I could see him being in a similar situation as Stafford last offseason.

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[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBwt9A_WUAAojZG?format=jpg&name=medium[/IMG]

Malik Willis anyone?

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I don't want Carr, he's a solid player but he will want big $ and he's not worth it.. Draft OUR OWN guy and build around him

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1295640][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBwt9A_WUAAojZG?format=jpg&name=medium[/IMG]

Malik Willis anyone?[/quote]

He has a similar skill set as Heinicke, but obviously way more skills and arm talent. Similar size too, but a thicker build. A rich man's Heinicke.

I like him.

Then on the flip side I like Carson from Nevada. Who is a completely different kind of QB. He's a big dude. Pure pocket passer.

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Looking at our cap space and current contract next year. Without doing anything right now we sit with approximately 65 million. Of course that’s with Fitzpatrick and Schreff off the books.

Two moves we could make…
1. Designate Landon Collins as a post June 1 cut. That gives us 12 million more in space.
2. Cut Erik Flowers which would result in zero cap penalty and give us 10 million in immediately cap relief. I think Flowers could be a keeper with a restructured deal with possible extension.

But cutting Collins is a no brainer…77 million in cap space would put us in the top 5 in the league.

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Malik Willis ain’t the answer … I follow liberty , maybe late round but not a top pick ..

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[quote=rocnrik;1295714]Malik Willis ain’t the answer … I follow liberty , maybe late round but not a top pick ..[/quote]

This

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[quote=rocnrik;1295714]Malik Willis ain’t the answer … I follow liberty , maybe late round but not a top pick ..[/quote]

Tell us more. I have never seen him play. You think worth a third?

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[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;1295718]Tell us more. I have never seen him play. You think worth a third?[/QUOTE]


Consensus was a first or second but he had a bad game yesterday so maybe a stock drop.

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Let me add to this discussion around drafting qb this year. I think I'm stating the obvious...but the organization as a whole needs to step up and make 100% sure that Dan Snyder stays out of the fucking draft room for the qb position. Keep him away. Far the fuck away. As bad of an owner as he is....he is even worse at evaluating qb prospects. Stay. Away. Dan.

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[QUOTE=OnceWeWereKings;1295729]Let me add to this discussion around drafting qb this year. I think I'm stating the obvious...but the organization as a whole needs to step up and make 100% sure that Dan Snyder stays out of the fucking draft room for the qb position. Keep him away. Far the fuck away. As bad of an owner as he is....he is even worse at evaluating qb prospects. Stay. Away. Dan.[/QUOTE]


Unfortunately the “football” people who work for Snyder are not much better. Was evident in the draft, free agency, and roster cuts. We got bozos working for a douche. [emoji1750]

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I think Carson Strong has potential, Corral needs to add weight. Malik Willis is good but idk if he’s top 10
Good.

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1296178]Unfortunately the “football” people who work for Snyder are not much better. Was evident in the draft, free agency, and roster cuts. We got bozos working for a douche. [emoji1750][/QUOTE]

I'm in 2 minds on RR. Either he is in over his head with all the non-HC stuff, or he's playing the long game of getting the highest draft pick next year to try get that franchise QB...

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Willis is a late round project. No way do you draft him in the first few rounds. 6th rounder.

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I am concerned that even if we get a QB in next years draft will he be able to make it here? This is not the place for a young QB cause he will probably have multiple coaches, coordinators- it will be Jason Campbell all over again. That is my biggest concern. We don't have Sean McVay or a coach who he can grow with.

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I would decline the invitation if I were drafted by this team. Literally wouldn’t walk out for the photo op. If I knew they were taking me beforehand I would let all partys know that I was not interested. You have to be an idiot or completely off everyone elses radar to play for this team. When you combine ownership with winning there is no worse organization in the league.

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[quote=punch it in;1296265]I would decline the invitation if I were drafted by this team. Literally wouldn’t walk out for the photo op. If I knew they were taking me beforehand I would let all partys know that I was not interested. You have to be an idiot or completely off everyone elses radar to play for this team. When you combine ownership with winning there is no worse organization in the league.[/quote]

Us and the Lions man

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1296266]Us and the Lions man[/QUOTE]


Absolutely. Well as far as Wins and losses. I dont know anything about their owner. I’d be willing to bet our organization is more toxic.

Oh great avatar. Me and you might have teams in the super bowl after all! Lol

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[QUOTE=AnonEmouse;1296212]I'm in 2 minds on RR. Either he is in over his head with all the non-HC stuff, or he's playing the long game of getting the highest draft pick next year to try get that franchise QB...[/QUOTE]


Well we are on a collision course with a top 5 pick and I do not believe there is a quarterback that anyone has going that high. Im going to go with in over his head on the non HC stuff (and the HC stuff).

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[quote=skinsfan69;1296223]I am concerned that even if we get a QB in next years draft will he be able to make it here? This is not the place for a young QB cause he will probably have multiple coaches, coordinators- it will be Jason Campbell all over again. That is my biggest concern. We don't have Sean McVay or a coach who he can grow with.[/quote]

It depends. If this coaching staff continues, then you can have this coaching staff pick their QB. I mean honestly, when was the last time Snyder let his coach pick a QB? That has never happened in the Snyder era.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1296223]I am concerned that even if we get a QB in next years draft will he be able to make it here? This is not the place for a young QB cause he will probably have multiple coaches, coordinators- it will be Jason Campbell all over again. That is my biggest concern. We don't have Sean McVay or a coach who he can grow with.[/QUOTE]


Forget quarterback what about a cant miss pass rusher with all the tools. [emoji1750]
This staff is simply not getting it done. At all.

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7: R1 P7 - S Kyle Hamilton - Notre Dame
39: R2 P7 - QB Carson Strong - Nevada
71: R3 P7 - LB Brandon Smith - Penn State
109: R4 P7 - CB Leonard Johnson - Duke
186: R6 P7 - WR Romeo Doubs - Nevada
226: R7 P7 - OT Logan Bruss - Wisconsin

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PFN's current top 10 QBs:

[url]https://www.profootballnetwork.com/top-10-quarterbacks-in-the-2022-nfl-draft-kenny-pickett-matt-corral-continue-their-ascension/[/url]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1295640][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBwt9A_WUAAojZG?format=jpg&name=medium[/IMG]

Malik Willis anyone?[/quote]

4th round talent. There isn't a QB in the 2022 draft that would [B]clearly[/B] be better or even equal to what we already have on our roster. People point out that Heineke is a back-up level QB. So my question is why the f would we waste a 1st round pick to get a likely back-up level QB? (Better to stock future picks for when the draft has a good QB class).