The Most Fresh & Cordial Political Thread Ever
 

The last thread ended about as they all do.

I challenge us to make it thru at least 2 pages without anyone personality insulting someone else here. See if we can actually talk about policy.

Article from the Cato Institute: Why’s Washington Spending So Much Money? Blame a Faulty Understanding of ‘Rights’

[url]https://www.cato.org/commentary/whys-washington-spending-so-much-money-blame-faulty-understanding-rights[/url]

"Not since 2001 has Congress balanced the federal budget — and it’s getting worse."

20 years with no federal budget? That's just insane.

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Being serious for a moment here, I have a real choice to make. Do I come in here polite and attempt to help start this thread with a fresh outlook, or do I call out that dogshit article that can be summed up in one sentence: "Poor and lazy people need to stop sucking on the gov't tit and work harder to achieve their goals."

Help me decide SD.

PS. I agree the budget should be balanced.

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[quote=mooby;1302775]Being serious for a moment here, I have a real choice to make. Do I come in here polite and attempt to help start this thread with a fresh outlook, or do I call out that dogshit article that can be summed up in one sentence: "Poor and lazy people need to stop sucking on the gov't tit and work harder to achieve their goals."

Help me decide SD. PS. I agree the budget should be balanced.[/quote]

I have no issue with disagreeing with what you think the primus of the article is. I think we can call out disagreements with the article itself without attacking the poster.

My main focus of that article was seeing we haven't had a budget in 20 years now. Basically our government has quit doing a major part of their jobs.

To add - There are many more reasons why our debt is so high, that the author of that commentary left out, i.e. endless wars, etc.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1302776]I have no issue with disagreeing with what you think the primus of the article is. I think we can call out disagreements with the article itself without attacking the poster.

My main focus of that article was seeing we haven't had a budget in 20 years now. Basically our government has quit doing a major part of their jobs.[/quote]

Oh I'm not calling you out - I agree with you that they really need to get their act together because I'm pretty tired of them not being able to agree on a budget. Just specifically saying I have a problem with that article/op-ed.

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[quote=mooby;1302777]Oh I'm not calling you out - I agree with you that they really need to get their act together because I'm pretty tired of them not being able to agree on a budget. Just specifically saying I have a problem with that article/op-ed.[/quote]

Fair enough. This thread is off to a good start lol. I probably could have found a better article about the debt than that one. But when I start a new thread, I like to at least start it with something regarding the subject.

Note - I didn't think you were attacking me here. I just meant that in general about any article posted here. At least 1 of us will likely always disagree with anything posted here. We can disagree with a post, article, etc., and have some civility.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1302769]The last thread ended about as they all do.

I challenge us to make it thru at least 2 pages without anyone personality insulting someone else here. See if we can actually talk about policy.

Article from the Cato Institute: Why’s Washington Spending So Much Money? Blame a Faulty Understanding of ‘Rights’

[url]https://www.cato.org/commentary/whys-washington-spending-so-much-money-blame-faulty-understanding-rights[/url]

"Not since 2001 has Congress balanced the federal budget — and it’s getting worse."

20 years with no federal budget? That's just insane.[/quote]

Your political opinions couldn't hit water if they fell out of a fucking boat! :)

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US doing a diplomatic boycott of Olympics yawn. Not really making a sacrifice for our convictions are we? I would have instead been completely happy with a full boycott ( we know that wouldn't happen because of all those bidnesses and their commercials). I would have also loved us to send an entirely muslim/humanitarian diplomatic contingent. Missed opportunity imo.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1302781]US doing a diplomatic boycott of Olympics yawn. Not really making a sacrifice for our convictions are we? I would have instead been completely happy with a full boycott ( we know that wouldn't happen because of all those bidnesses and their commercials). I would have also loved us to send an entirely muslim/humanitarian diplomatic contingent. Missed opportunity imo.[/quote]

From my boat I wish I had, I agree with this all 💯💯💯

The Most Fresh & Cordial Political Thread Ever
 

[IMG]https://media1.giphy.com/media/igT08WYAKXQM8/giphy.gif[/IMG]

Me trying to enter with a negative comment about the other guys politics.

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[quote=punch it in;1302791][IMG]https://media1.giphy.com/media/igT08WYAKXQM8/giphy.gif[/IMG]

Me trying to enter with a negative comment about the other guys politics.[/quote]

Punch, the 1st post on Pg. 3:

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1302797]punch, the 1st post on pg. 3:

[img]https://media4.giphy.com/media/4m7zfhchurmro/giphy.gif[/img][/quote]


lolololol

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[quote=punch it in;1302798]lolololol[/quote]

I'm never using giphy.com again. It works on my post, but then you replied to it, and it says image not available. Da fuq??

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The political threads on here just remind some folks in this world just love to argue.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1302801]I'm never using giphy.com again. It works on my post, but then you replied to it, and it says image not available. Da fuq??[/quote]

You guys know what really makes me angry? When 3rd party content creators try to restrict how or when their content shows up on other websites. Arggghhhhh, just makes me want to bash their heads in with my louisville slugger.

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[quote=punch it in;1302791][IMG]https://media1.giphy.com/media/igT08WYAKXQM8/giphy.gif[/IMG]

Me trying to enter with a negative comment about the other guys politics.[/quote]

Me approaching politics thread cordially…sees libs

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1302821]Me approaching politics thread cordially…sees libs

[IMG]https://i.redd.it/0qikj4dzle861.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]


What you really look like…

[IMG]https://media3.giphy.com/media/Txun6ahh9auWs/giphy.gif[/IMG]

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Let's cordially get this back on track.

If you were emperor for a day and could only implement 1 item, what would it be?

Mine would be the federal budget can't be any more than 95% of the previous year's tax revenue. Any savings goes towards paying down the debt.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1302835]Let's cordially get this back on track.
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The Most Fresh & Cordial Political Thread Ever
 

[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1302835]Let's cordially get this back on track.

If you were emperor for a day and could only implement 1 item, what would it be?

Mine would be the federal budget can't be any more than 95% of the previous year's tax revenue. Any savings goes towards paying down the debt.[/QUOTE]


I thought those memes were extremely cordial especially the really nice fluffy white sheep. Should be a shep, sheep should be plural but that’s neither here nor there.



Oh Id tax the shit outta rich motherfuckers who basically pay to have the tax laws on their side instead of milking blood from stones who have no voice. They dont wanna pay taxes than they have the option of donating some of what they owe to charity. (Clarification edit the rest goes to uncle sam - you don’t save money by donating it to charity in this scenario). Gotta stop the rich/poor divide. No it isn’t socialism it is fair. Someone who makes 80 k a year and has to part with say 5 k. Someone who makes 80 million well guess what…..

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[quote=punch it in;1302840]I thought those memes were extremely cordial especially the really nice fluffy white sheep. Should be a shep, sheep should be plural but that’s neither here nor there.



Oh Id tax the shit outta rich motherfuckers who basically pay to have the tax laws on their side instead of milking blood from stones who have no voice. They dont wanna pay taxes than they have the option of donating some of what they owe to charity. Gotta stop the rich/poor divide. No it isn’t socialism it is fair. Someone who makes 80 k a year and has to part with say 5 k. Someone who makes 80 million well guess what…..[/quote]

Well since you nailed it with the 1 idea I'll go with term limits for all motherfuckers. Congress, Supreme Court, el Presidente, idgaf. Term limits for school board motherfuckers. Fuck 'em all.

The Most Fresh & Cordial Political Thread Ever
 

[QUOTE=mooby;1302847]Well since you nailed it with the 1 idea I'll go with term limits for all motherfuckers. Congress, Supreme Court, el Presidente, idgaf. Term limits for school board motherfuckers. Fuck 'em all.[/QUOTE]


Could have easily been my first order of action as emperor. Emperor would be exempt of course.

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[quote=mooby;1302847]Well since you nailed it with the 1 idea I'll go with term limits for all motherfuckers. Congress, Supreme Court, el Presidente, idgaf. Term limits for school board motherfuckers. Fuck 'em all.[/quote]

I hope term limits is in everyone's top 5. If not top 3.

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Full audit of the federal government and military

Open all the the books and then start going lean deferring duplicity to state govs when we can.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1302769]The last thread ended about as they all do.

I challenge us to make it thru at least 2 pages without anyone personality insulting someone else here. See if we can actually talk about policy.

Article from the Cato Institute: Why’s Washington Spending So Much Money? Blame a Faulty Understanding of ‘Rights’

[url]https://www.cato.org/commentary/whys-washington-spending-so-much-money-blame-faulty-understanding-rights[/url]

"Not since 2001 has Congress balanced the federal budget — and it’s getting worse."

20 years with no federal budget? That's just insane.[/quote]



Let's see how my buddy takes it?

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[quote=Chico23231;1302821]Me approaching politics thread cordially…sees libs

[IMG]https://i.redd.it/0qikj4dzle861.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

Never mind , we know. Hey you tried!

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[quote=punch it in;1302823]What you really look like…

[IMG]https://media3.giphy.com/media/Txun6ahh9auWs/giphy.gif[/IMG][/quote]

lol.............................:biggthump

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In terms of voters, I have never talked to anyone, literally not 1 person, that supports Mitch McConnell. Doesn't matter what side of the fence they are on.

What the hell has been going on in Kentucky? This question can apply to lots of other places too, but some of the other places (Pelosi coming to mind) makes sense. Kentucky is largely conservative and he still keeps winning. There is nothing conservative about him. Conservatives hate him and all democrats hate him. But yet, the turtle lives on.

Do any of you guys on the left (not including Manchin) have any people that you're not sure how they are in office as a democrat?

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1302851]I hope term limits is in everyone's top 5. If not top 3.[/quote]

It used to be in my top 5 until one of my friends who worked with Giffords on the Hill explained the downside. Term limits for congress runs a risk that the unelected congressional staff would eventually acquire all the power - ie they'd become Mandarins. They already wield substantial power on the hill that most of us aren't even aware of.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1302958]In terms of voters, I have never talked to anyone, literally not 1 person, that supports Mitch McConnell. Doesn't matter what side of the fence they are on.

What the hell has been going on in Kentucky? This question can apply to lots of other places too, but some of the other places (Pelosi coming to mind) makes sense. Kentucky is largely conservative and he still keeps winning. There is nothing conservative about him. Conservatives hate him and all democrats hate him. But yet, the turtle lives on.

Do any of you guys on the left (not including Manchin) have any people that you're not sure how they are in office as a democrat?[/quote]

I support Mitch McConnel and he is a conservative. Don't confuse conservativism with populism (ie Trump and the Trumpers). He's also the smartest politician in Washington (which is probably why he is the most effective).

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[quote=nonniey;1302959]It used to be until one of my friends who worked with Giffords on the Hill explained the downside. [B]Term limits for congress runs a risk that the unelected congressional staff would eventually acquire all the power - ie they'd become Mandarins. [/B]They already wield substantial power on the hill that most of us aren't even aware of.[/quote]

Not saying this is wrong, because I've never heard this perspective before. Genuine question, how would unelected congressional staff acquire more power from term limits?

In general, there are definitely way too many unelected people with way too much power on this country. So I wouldn't doubt above could be true to an extent. But would it be worse than getting life long teet suckers like McConnell, Pelosi, Schumer, etc., elected forever?

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[quote=nonniey;1302960]I support Mitch McConnel and he is a conservative. Don't confuse conservativism with populism (ie Trump and the Trumpers). He's also the smartest politician in Washington (which is probably why he is the most effective).[/quote]

See, this is why I couldn't find an image of you in our image guessing chain in the other thread, that I thought had any chance of being accurate. You're a wild card. I haven't talked to you enough to try to get an accurate read on you (by internet standards).

Now, I only "know" 1 person that supports Mitch McConnell, lol.

And no doubt he is smart, all of those guys/girls that have stayed in office forever are smart. But there are lots of smart people that don't use it for the benefit of others.

Edit - I found you...

[IMG]https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AdorableMiserableBarbet-size_restricted.gif[/IMG]

That show is awesome and Charlie is awesome, this is a compliment, just in case it came off differently.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1302962]See, this is why I couldn't find an image of you in our image guessing chain in the other thread, that I thought had any chance of being accurate. You're a wild card. I haven't talked to you enough to try to get an accurate read on you (by internet standards).

Now, I only "know" 1 person that supports Mitch McConnell, lol.

And no doubt he is smart, all of those guys/girls that have stayed in office forever are smart. But there are lots of smart people that don't use it for the benefit of others.

Edit - I found you...

[IMG]https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AdorableMiserableBarbet-size_restricted.gif[/IMG]

That show is awesome and Charlie is awesome, this is a compliment, just in case it came off differently.[/QUOTE]


Nonniey is easy…

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[quote=Chico23231;1302821]Me approaching politics thread cordially…sees libs

[IMG]https://i.redd.it/0qikj4dzle861.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

Republicans always fantasize about being the big black one.

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Man this Fox news Christmas tree scandal is something else huh? Fox is all sorts of worked up and out for blood

If only they reacted with the same energy to the Capitol getting ransacked

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[quote=MTK;1303012]Man this Fox news Christmas tree scandal is something else huh? Fox is all sorts of worked up and out for blood

If only they reacted with the same energy to the Capitol getting ransacked

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[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FGLFqYCVIAkX8VP?format=jpg&name=large[/IMG][/quote]

The guy who did it is off his rocker, can’t believe he can do it and be on the street the next day. Guy is a loony

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[QUOTE=MTK;1303012]Man this Fox news Christmas tree scandal is something else huh? Fox is all sorts of worked up and out for blood

If only they reacted with the same energy to the Capitol getting ransacked

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FGLFpTwWUAENV3W?format=jpg&name=large[/IMG]

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FGLFqYCVIAkX8VP?format=jpg&name=large[/IMG][/QUOTE]


Fuckin twats.

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[quote=Chico23231;1303022]The guy who did it is off his rocker, can’t believe he can do it and be on the street the next day. Guy is a loony[/quote]

So are the on air personalities at FOX they make a good pair.

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[url]https://www.foxnews.com/media/fox-news-media-rebuild-all-american-christmas-tree-malicious-arson-attack-suzanne-scott-says[/url]

Well, less than 48 hours later they are gonna light another one in the 5 OClock hour if you would like to tune in.

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[quote=Chico23231;1303022]The guy who did it is off his rocker, can’t believe he can do it and be on the street the next day. Guy is a loony[/quote]

Lots of loons out there.

Had a moment yesterday with a drunk homeless guy.

Keep that head on a swivel, dont stop for any BS.

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[quote=Chico23231;1303022]The guy who did it is off his rocker, can’t believe he can do it and be on the street the next day. Guy is a loony[/quote]

Since you bring up being off the rocker and on the street, I want to broach the school shooting in Michigan. Hearing that the school had a meeting with parents about a drawing of a gun and bleeding figures that says "the thoughts won't stop, help me. My life is useless. Blood everywhere." and they kept him in school is awful. This is a significant problem that we don't have more school psychologists and social workers, that schools do not have the authority to remove this student directly at the time of an incident like this (this is not exclusive to that school district, most schools just are not given that autonomy by state governments and local jurisdictions). I am actually glad they are charging the parents I hope they have evidence to support the charges but regardless this might be a turning point akin to when we started charging parents for serving teenagers in the basement.