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Alright let's boil this down, feel free to offer up your own evaluations:

[B]Tier 1[/B]
Rodgers
Wilson
Watson

Let's be real, all of these guys are big time long shots. Watson is probably the most "attainable", but his legal issues are a serious dark cloud and answers don't seem to be coming anytime soon. Chances of landing any of these guys? Less than 5% and I'm probably being generous.

[B]Tier 2[/B]
Carr
Jimmy G
Cousins
Ryan
Wentz

The Raiders seem intent on bringing back Carr as well they should. Jimmy G seems like a lock to be moved, but if the price is more than a 3rd I'd definitely pass. Cousins and McConnell are reuniting, but he's got a $45M cap hit for 2022 and the Vikings need some serious cap relief. If Kirk doesn't budge they could move him. I know what you're thinking, no way he'd come back here. Perhaps, but his agent has ties to Wright and Rivera and his main nemesis Bruce Allen is long gone. The Falcons are starting to look toward a future beyond Ryan and it could start with them targeting someone like Malik Willis at #8 overall. Dealing Ryan would result in some serious dead money for Atl though. Indy wasn't happy with the way Wentz crashed and burned at the end of the season with the playoffs on the line, and they seem to be seriously rethinking whether he is their guy going forward.

[B]JAGS[/B]
Trubisky
Heinicke

I can't say enough how much I hate the idea of Trubisky. And sticking with Heinicke another year is almost as tough to swallow. If either of these guys are starting in week 1, it better be because a rookie is waiting in the wings ready to get his shot sooner rather than later.

[B]Crazy idea[/B]
Call Tom Brady, offer him the moon and if he asks for more, give it to him

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Deshaun Watson has listed Minnesota and Tampa as his top 2 destinations per ESPN.

He has made it clear from day 1 that he won’t come to Washington so F that dude.


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Jamison Winston be tier two as well.

If we go tier two i say we still need to draft a QB.

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Not a veteran and I would put at Tier 3, but Jordan love. If GB finishes deal with AR then they will have to move on from Love. You can't have a QB sit their entire rookie contract and then extend him. I personally do not see him as a future starter in the league but if Turner thinks he can work with him a trade could be intriguing and I would prefer it to Heinicke or Trubisky.

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[B]Also Tier 2[/B]
J Winston

[B]Tier 2.5[/B]
M Mariota
T Taylor
A Dalton

There were reports last year that Washington was interested in acquiring Mariota from the Raiders. Personally, I'm not a huge fan of Mariota, but if there was interest just a year ago, my guess is he is still an option.

T Taylor - the typical bridge QB, a role he's accustomed to, and an upgrade to TH. Only if they plan to draft a QB.

Just no for A Dalton

Winston is intriguing to me. Not sure what the plan is for the new New Orleans regime. Jameis seemed to be righting the ship last year, with regard to his interceptions. 14 TD / 3 INT prior to his injury. He has thrown for over 4000 yards three times, including 2019 with Tampa when he threw for over 5000 yards.

I wouldn't count either of these guys out just yet.

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I would go

1. Wilson…make the home run offer
2. Wentz - this to me is a no brainer. He bounced back and I could see him being the top QB garnering interest quickly across the league. Ron needs to move fast..offer the 1 and a defensive player now.
3. Matt Ryan - the money is an issue, but Ron needs to win now. Ryan would be a calming influence on the team and the leader on offense they need. I might put him ahead of Wentz.
4. Winston - the guy for all his faults is loved by coaching staffs and teams. His story isn’t finished in the NFL. System system system matters.
5. Trubisky - they had interest before and as a fall back option he would be cheap. He can run and has a decent arm. I like he sat and learned behind a winner last year.

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Russell Wilson -- Im starting to think there is an increasing chance we get breaking news Commanders trade 3 1st rounders for Russell Wilson. Crazy talk before this season but now, Im starting to think its a real possibility.

RR didnt come here to rebuild and he certainly doesnt have the time to wait on a weak draft class Willis or Corrall. He went big for Stafford who didnt want to come here. I think we are going big for Russ who said he would come here.

Russell Wilson + new name + jersey sales + fans buying in + new stadium ready just in time for Russ's farewell retirement season media extravaganza = $$$$

RR wants to win now. Dan Snyder loves selling hope in the offseason. Their interests are mutual here.

Haynesworth, McNabb ... now Russell Wilson.

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Russell Wilson and Chase Young would be a two headed media darling dragon.

Instantly this team is very marketable.

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Question for me is why would Seattle deal Wilson and take a huge step back with a HC that probably isn't interested in starting over at QB at his age (70)

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Trubisky, Jimmy G, Mariota, Wentz and Winston are the realistic options. Give it up on Wilson. Not happening. Neither is Watson.

I would say Cousins is maybe a real outside shot. Better chance he comes back here over Wilsons and Watson. That is how far out the Wilson and Watson talk is.

This is basically Jacksonville in a bigger market. The players know that. They know the deal here. I doubt Jimmy comes here simply because Kyle won't put Jimmy in that kind of position.

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[quote=MTK;1310673]Question for me is why would Seattle deal Wilson and take a huge step back with a HC that probably isn't interested in starting over at QB at his age (70)[/quote]

This is why the Wilson talk is a total waste of time.

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[quote=SunnySide;1310672]Russell Wilson and Chase Young would be a two headed media darling dragon.

Instantly this team is very marketable.[/quote]

C'mon. Wilson is an accomplished SB champ and a borderline HOF type of player.

Chase had like one sack last year. SMH...

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Seattle has not said a word regarding RW, which to me seems odd.. If they were keeping him you would think they would come out and say that.

I'd offer 2 first and go from there.

Wentz to me is better than the other guys listed.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1310665]Deshaun Watson has listed Minnesota and Tampa as his top 2 destinations per ESPN.

He has made it clear from day 1 that he won’t come to Washington so F that dude.


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If you were him would you want to come here? I wouldn't. Tampa has a playoff team. He could walk in there and they'd could be right back contending.

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The rub and tug joint situation in Tampa is probably much more appealing than in DC.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1310677]C'mon. Wilson is an accomplished SB champ and a borderline HOF type of player.

Chase had like one sack last year. SMH...[/quote]

1. Yall so quick to downplay or turn on Chase. I think hes going to be in the HOF all said and done (barring injuries of course). He is a generational physical talent with a motor and will to be the best.

The way this fan base views Chase is disappointing to me.

2. Did you see Chase get face time on that Superbowl commercial with the other superstars of the NFL?

Chase is very marketable and already a brand name.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1310678]Seattle has not said a word regarding RW, which to me seems odd.. If they were keeping him you would think they would come out and say that.

I'd offer 2 first and go from there.

Wentz to me is better than the other guys listed.[/quote]

So they'd get our 1st rounder which is pick 11. They'd go from Wilson to Kenny Pickett? Or Corrall? Or Willis? LOL and SMH.

If the Seattle GM and Carroll made that deal they would be and should be fired and never be allowed to work in the NFL again. That would be the stupidest trade in the history of trades.

Not only is that stupid on the football side, but also on the business side as well. I can not think of one reason why Seattle would move Wilson. Not one.

Get ready to get your Carson Wentz or Mitch Trubisky Commander jerseys!!!!

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[quote=SunnySide;1310681]1. Yall so quick to downplay or turn on Chase. I think hes going to be in the HOF all said and done (barring injuries of course). He is a generational physical talent with a motor and will to be the best.

The way this fan base views Chase is disappointing to me.

2. Did you see Chase get face time on that Superbowl commercial with the other superstars of the NFL?

Chase is very marketable and already a brand name.[/quote]

He can do all the ads he wants, get some damn sacks. Pressure the QB. Until then I don't care.

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I can definitely see CY in the running for comeback player of the year in 2022. Hopefully he was humbled by last season and works his ass off to bounce back strong. Maybe even take up Charles Mann on his offer to work with him.

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Wentz or Winston pick one for this year.

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Just to see Ruskins lose it, I’d like to see Cousins comeback

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[quote=Chico23231;1310670]I would go

1. Wilson…make the home run offer
2. Wentz - this to me is a no brainer. He bounced back and I could see him being the top QB garnering interest quickly across the league. Ron needs to move fast..offer the 1 and a defensive player now.
3. Matt Ryan - the money is an issue, but Ron needs to win now. Ryan would be a calming influence on the team and the leader on offense they need. I might put him ahead of Wentz.
4. Winston - the guy for all his faults is loved by coaching staffs and teams. His story isn’t finished in the NFL. System system system matters.
5. Trubisky - they had interest before and as a fall back option he would be cheap. He can run and has a decent arm. I like he sat and learned behind a winner last year.[/quote]

Here is my thing on Wentz. The Eagles gave up on him for a RB that plays QB. Then he goes to Indy where he has a relationship w/ Reich. Now after one year he may be flat out released.

Something really stinks w/ Wentz. Yeah he is better than what we have but a lot of alarm bells going off around that guy. Something ain't right.

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[quote=Chico23231;1310686]Just to see Ruskins lose it, I’d like to see Cousins comeback[/quote]

He would stroke out if we got Kirk back.

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From a recent article on The Athletic regarding Wentz, main reason why they are on the fence with him

[quote]The three words that stuck out to me most during Ballard’s 66-minute postseason news conference after the season:

Make the layups.

That was a window into the GM’s lengthy conversation with his quarterback after the Week 18 collapse; Ballard was urging Wentz to stop playing hero ball, to instead make the smarter, safer decisions he got away from in the season’s final two games. “Just make the layups,” Ballard urged his QB.

And it wasn’t just an issue at the end; Wentz was guilty of this all year. It’s the conundrum the QB has battled throughout his career, and led to his benching in Philadelphia in 2020. He plays overly aggressive, taking unnecessary risks that can bury his team. Sometimes they pay off. Oftentimes, they don’t.

Wentz largely kept this in check in Indianapolis — an encouraging sign after his dismal last year with the Eagles — but he became unglued in Jacksonville. He missed open receivers in the flat. His footwork was sloppy, his decision-making hesitant, then reckless. He panicked on some snaps, forcing the ball down the field into heavy coverage. Because of the way their quarterback played, especially after halftime, the Colts never had a shot.

“You’ve got to be able to get the ball out of your hands quickly,” Ballard said. “You’ve got to be able to get the ball out and take the easy completion when it comes, and that is a big part of Frank’s offense.”

Asked if Wentz was capable of improving in this area — if a QB who’s played the game one way his entire life can, at the age of 30, learn to play more disciplined — Ballard’s answer seemed more like a shrug of the shoulders, and a telling one at that.

“I think that’s something we’ve got to work through,” the GM said.

Most worrisome is Wentz was a sixth-year quarterback in 2021, still having trouble knowing when to throw it away, still refusing to check it down, still having issues reading a defense. It’s not a coincidence a year after making 63 catches from Philip Rivers, shifty running back Nyheim Hines had just 40 this past season with Wentz. No quarterback is perfect, but the fact that Wentz, in game No. 103 of his career, struggled with the most essential components to quarterbacking is, at the very least, an alarming red flag.

“Still been walking that one out my whole career,” Wentz said before the season, “trying every day to figure out how to toe the line of being aggressive, trying to be a playmaker, trying to make things happen, but being smart.”[/quote]

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[quote=Chico23231;1310686]Just to see Ruskins lose it, I’d like to see Cousins comeback[/quote]

:banghead: LOL

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[quote=skinsfan69;1310682]So they'd get our 1st rounder which is pick 11. They'd go from Wilson to Kenny Pickett? Or Corrall? Or Willis? LOL and SMH.

If the Seattle GM and Carroll made that deal they would be and should be fired and never be allowed to work in the NFL again. That would be the stupidest trade in the history of trades.

Not only is that stupid on the football side, but also on the business side as well. I can not think of one reason why Seattle would move Wilson. Not one.

Get ready to get your Carson Wentz or Mitch Trubisky Commander jerseys!!!![/quote]

You are probably right, that the Wilson talk is crazy. However, Seattle could get three 1st round picks for him, and not settle for Pickett, Corral, etc. They could strike a deal for J Garappolo, K Cousins, M Ryan, C Wentz, J Winston...and be set up to draft a QB in next year's draft.

Neither of those guys are the caliber of R Wilson, but if ever there was a time to get the moon for RW, now is the time.

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I don't see them trading him either but until they come out and say NO, I'll have some hope.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1310692]I don't see them trading him either but until they come out and say NO, I'll have some hope.[/quote]

This was from back on Jan 9

[quote]Despite all the speculation, the Seahawks have no plans to trade Russell Wilson this offseason, according to team sources who spoke with NFL.com’s Mike Garafolo.

[url]https://www.profootballrumors.com/2022/01/seahawks-plan-to-keep-russell-wilson[/url][/quote]

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[quote=MTK;1310693]This was from back on Jan 9[/quote]

Well if this is still the case, we might as well move on from that thought..

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Not sure if this info is legit but according to Standig from The Athletic, we will be willing to trade almost anyone including Young for Wilson or Rodgers. I think this off-season will be interesting for us!

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[quote=GridIron26;1310800]Not sure if this info is legit but according to Standig from The Athletic, we will be willing to trade almost anyone including Young for Wilson or Rodgers. I think this off-season will be interesting for us![/quote]

Good. The only person who should be safe on this team is Scary Terry. Everyone else is moveable. We are in such a state of disarray, and NEED a qb.
Would much rather have wilson than rodgers. I love rodgers game, but i would be worried about retirement or injury more than i would with wilson.

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QB trumps all

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[quote=GridIron26;1310800]Not sure if this info is legit but according to Standig from The Athletic, we will be willing to trade almost anyone including Young for Wilson or Rodgers. I think this off-season will be interesting for us![/quote]

I dont know if we land Wilson but it feels like we go for it like we did w Stafford last offseason.

I just dont see RR wanting to pussyfoot another year. Its year 3 for him, he knows how important getting a top 15 QB is.

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Yeah ill trade anyone for a quarterback. Including McLaurin. Love the guy, but where is he getting us without a quarterback?

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[quote=punch it in;1310808]Yeah ill trade anyone for a quarterback. Including McLaurin. Love the guy, but where is he getting us without a quarterback?[/quote]

Maybe, but isn't having playmakers to throw to one of the attractions in bringing a guy in? "Thanks for agreeing to play for us, and by the way, you have no weapons"

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I thinthe QB hysteria subtracts from the fact that we had other significant weaknesses last year.

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[quote=Ohioskins;1310811]I thinthe QB hysteria subtracts from the fact that we had other significant weaknesses last year.[/quote]

Of course, but I don't think it's hysteria to say QB is by far the biggest need.

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[QUOTE=AnonEmouse;1310810]Maybe, but isn't having playmakers to throw to one of the attractions in bringing a guy in? "Thanks for agreeing to play for us, and by the way, you have no weapons"[/QUOTE]


Just saying if it came down to having to trade McClaurin for one of them i would. Im sure either way if they bring in a big name quarterback that wr’s will be second priority in FA or the draft.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1310815]Of course, but I don't think it's hysteria to say QB is by far the biggest need.[/QUOTE]


Seriously how many years are we going to ignore the most important position on the team?

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[QUOTE=Ohioskins;1310811]I thinthe QB hysteria subtracts from the fact that we had other significant weaknesses last year.[/QUOTE]


finding serviceable to good players to fix those other weaknesses is infinitely easier than finding a franchise QB. So I wouldn't call it hysteria, it's just clearly a higher priority for fans and hopefully the team.'


You can win divisions, conference championships, and even Super Bowls with stop-gap Safeties, MLBs, CB's, etc. The likelihood that you do the same thing consistently with stop-gap QB's is a lot lower.