Welcome Jahan Dotson, WR PSU - 1st Round Pick
 

We have a new receiver. Like his speed.

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I was hoping for Burks there. Right position, different player. But Dotson is a stud too. Trade down and get a stud receiver. I love it!

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Nice take from Torrey Smith:

@TorreySmithWR
I watched Jahan Dotson play against my Terps in person and the man can ball!

Terry, Curtis and Dotson are like lighting in a bottle. That’s an explosive group for Carson to work with. I like it!

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Hate the pick. Hoping for the best.

Should have taking a QB or best Oline

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[quote=Chico23231;1315661]Hate the pick. Hoping for the best.

Should have taking a QB or best Oline[/quote]

So you wanted them to reach for a QB in a bad QB class?

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His name is too similar to Josh Doctson - calling it now he's a bust.

Now that initial overreactions are out of the way - my only complaint is he seems a bit light in the weight department - I worry about his durability. But his hands aren't in question, NFLN says he's a good route runner with very good explosion. Cautiously optimistic is my initial impression.

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[quote=mooby;1315666]His name is too similar to Josh Doctson - calling it now he's a bust.

Now that initial overreactions are out of the way - my only complaint is he seems a bit light in the weight department - I worry about his durability. But his hands aren't in question, NFLN says he's a good route runner with very good explosion. Cautiously optimistic is my initial impression.[/quote]

Natural selection has to shine on a man with great explosion.

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Boo this pic

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[quote=mredskins;1315689]Boo this pic[/quote]

Did he take a bad selfie?

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1315691]Did he take a bad selfie?[/quote]

Apparently.

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I like the pick. He is a little undersized, but he's as big or bigger than guys like Tyler Lockett and Deshaun Jackson, with about the same speed too. I don't think durability will be an issue. Over 2000 yards receiving and 20 touchdowns in the last 2 years. I think we have a fairly dynamic receiving core now, especially if Samuel is healthy.

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He’s also the first ever Washington Commander picked in a draft. Pretty cool


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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1315661]Hate the pick. Hoping for the best.

Should have taking a QB or best Oline[/QUOTE]


QB won’t be thought of until Ron leaves, he said it himself that Wentz is the guy for the long term


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What I like about him is that he can throw some nice passes:

[url]https://youtu.be/KROG8xulG-4[/url]

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I'm very OK with this if he can deliver. I mean, we could have picked him at 11 anyway but now we have 2 more lower round picks to address other holes. I would have liked to see Hamilton taken, and I really hope they bolster the secondary later on, but on paper this is far from a bad move.

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Daniel Jeremiah said that Jahan Dotson has "the best hands in the draft". Greg Cosell said that it's "close" between Dotson and Wilson as prospects. So, I'm good. If Samuel can get on the field and stay there next season, we should have a very good WR corps.

This deep WR draft enabled us to trade down and still grab a talented and productive WR in Round 1. Now we need to put the 3rd and 4th round picks we received in the trade to good use.

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I think when they dropped down to 16 they were hoping Olave or Jameson Williams would be there, they won’t say that publicly of course. Slightly disappointing that it didn’t work out that way, because Olave plus the two picks would have been a coup.

Nevertheless the 3rd and the 4th rounder we picked up here should help us add two strong contributors, both of those picks will probably be guys with 2nd round grades thanks to this deep draft.

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If Dotson was 6'1 he would have been a top 2 WR. His speed and route running is very good. I'm happy with it, would have loved Williams but whatever.

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He had 2 drops last year with 91 Rec.. That's pretty damn legit. A WR Grade of 91.2

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I’m sober and slept on it…still seemed like a reach. I’m worried about his size and he seems like a slot receiver. Do you spend a first on a primarily slot receiver? Silver lining is getting much needed extra picks.

if Williams or Hamilton are blue chippers then we fucked up.

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I think it is a safe pick his floor is pretty high. I personally wanted Olave so frustrated we had the opportunity and didn't pull the trigger. If we get a quality OL with the 3rd rounder I will probably consider it an even cover of the loss on Olave.

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We could have had Olave at #11. It must have been hard to pass on him because I believe he was the best deep threat in this class. Reminds me of DeSean Jackson. I definitely felt a twinge of loss when we traded down but I also believe that at this stage in the team build we needed more picks. So, we got a very good player at #16 and two nice picks. I'll have to learn to deal with it.

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I really like Dyami Brown. Ben Standig said looking back at tape when he was on the field he got open a ton…Henike just didn’t care to get the ball to him.

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At first glance I didn't like the pick or the trade, but after mulling it over a bit Dotson looks like he could be very good. However, outside of Cam Simms there are no big WR on the team, which could be limiting.

As for the trade, the classic trade chart says we got hosed but it seems to me that trade charts are nonsense when there is year to year variation in depth and quality of the players, especially this year. So after consideration I don't dislike it, just wish the 3rd was a bit higher, a 3rd comp pick is basically just a high 4th rounder

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Just from the youtube highlights, Dotson seems like he can play.. I don't watch college football so I can't really grade this pick.. Although I'm kinda disappointed we missed out on Kyle Hamilton and Daxton Hill, but then I'm a defense guy.

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It's hard to judge WR's in college football... Defenses are so bad for the most part.

Everyone thought Jerry Jeudy was going to come in and light it up and he hasn't done much.. Every year there are guys the media hypes up to be the next superstar and they flame out.

Honestly the most crucial day is today

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From the youtube videos I’ve seen, the kid is a a weapon. More like a Swiss army knife, he can do it all, including throwing the ball. Let’s see how Turner uses him, should be very interesting.

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I guess what bothers me is I feel when you trade down you do it when the guy or guys you wanted aren't there - so you move back. Jamison Williams was there. He was sitting right there for you to take a potentially elite player. A Terek Hill, J'Marr Chase type of player. I don't care about extra picks if you get that chance to draft someone elite. We don't have any elite players.. All I saw all year long was Williams blow past top level corners. He destroyed the best defense in the country. Why didn't they take him? Were they worried about his knee? I'm not buying that cause ACL's are common and guys come back all the time from them.

Dotson seems like a really good player by all accounts. But is he an elite player? Is he a blue chip player?? Is he a player that the defense will fear? Idk... we'll see but I would have taken Williams hands down simply because he is the type of guy that the defense has to account for. He gets respect from the safties which helps the entire offense.

But not going to kill them yet. We shall see if this was a good move or not down the line..

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[quote=Schneed10;1315705]I think when they dropped down to 16 they were hoping Olave or Jameson Williams would be there, they won’t say that publicly of course. Slightly disappointing that it didn’t work out that way, because Olave plus the two picks would have been a coup.

Nevertheless the 3rd and the 4th rounder we picked up here should help us add two strong contributors, both of those picks will probably be guys with 2nd round grades thanks to this deep draft.[/quote]

I agree. They thought Hamilton, Olave, or Williams would fall to 16. That didn’t happen so they panicked and took Dotson. Getting the extra 3rd and 4th helps, but I’m convinced we could’ve traded down to the 20’s, grabbed an extra pick or two, and still got Dotson.

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Davonte Smith is as slight as it gets and as a rookie, he had 64 receptions for 916 yards and 5 TDs. With Hurts throwing it to him.

You can play small if you run good routes and play smart.

Dotson definitely runs great routes and plucks everything. He just needs to limit taking big hits. Hopefully Wentz starts all year. Heinicke is not a good match for Dotson.

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[quote=Chico23231;1315661]Hate the pick. Hoping for the best.

Should have taking a QB or best Oline[/quote]

A QB would have been a huge mistake. Heck I bet a few of the ones many here wanted us to draft at 11, prior to acquiring Wentz, will still be there when the Skins draft in the 2d.

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[quote=vallin21;1315726]I agree. They thought Hamilton, Olave, or Williams would fall to 16. [B]That didn’t happen so they panicked and took Dotson[/B]. Getting the extra 3rd and 4th helps, but I’m convinced we could’ve traded down to the 20’s, grabbed an extra pick or two, and still got Dotson.[/quote]

That's a bad assumption

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[quote=GridIron26;1315731]That's a bad assumption[/quote]

*In my opinion* Dotson was a reach *at 16*; and I’ll assume again we could’ve traded back to the 20’s, added another pick, and Dotson would’ve still been there.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1315718]It's hard to judge WR's in college football... Defenses are so bad for the most part.

Everyone thought Jerry Jeudy was going to come in and light it up and he hasn't done much.. Every year there are guys the media hypes up to be the next superstar and they flame out.

Honestly the most crucial day is today[/quote]

Yeah Jeudy has been a bit of a disappointment no doubt. But he now has a huge upgrade at QB. Big year for him. He has no more excuses.

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[quote=vallin21;1315734]*In my opinion* Dotson was a reach *at 16*; and I’ll assume again we could’ve traded back to the 20’s, added another pick, and Dotson would’ve still been there.[/quote]

And you'd be pissed off if we had traded to the low 20s and he wasn't there.

I think given the run of WRs, the team couldn't have traded too far down, if their goal was to get a WR and picks.

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I think drafting a QB in the 3rd or 4th round is more of a realistic option.

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Mayhew said they had offers to trade down from 16 and I would bet that Green Bay and Kansas City were among them looking to get the last of the top echelon WR, so it would be no certainty that Dotson would have been available at 20.

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Don't hate this pick at all. Got a playmaking WR and an extra 3rd and 4th. Seems like a great kid with arguably the best hands in the draft. He was a one man wrecking crew at PSU and wasn't doing it all against inferior competition.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1315740]I think drafting a QB in the 3rd or 4th round is more of a realistic option.[/quote]

Especially since only one QB was taken in a first round. Which tells you how poorly teams think of this draft class.

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For me, the trade down was crucial--nice move. They went with their top WR on the board at that point. Fine. Also will return punts? If we get talent in this deep draft in the 3rd and 4th, it's a win. If the kid balls like he did at PSU, win-win. Grading talent in drafts is a hard job, despite all the mocks out there...