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6 games? Seriously?

@AndrewBrandt
The discipline for Deshaun Watson is out:
Judge Robinson has suspended him the first six (6) games of the NFL season.
The NFLPA has said it will not appeal. The NFL has three days to appeal, if it so chooses.

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[quote=MTK;1318861]6 games? Seriously?

@AndrewBrandt
The discipline for Deshaun Watson is out:
Judge Robinson has suspended him the first six (6) games of the NFL season.
The NFLPA has said it will not appeal. The NFL has three days to appeal, if it so chooses.[/quote]

Browns win after all. Wow. That doesn't even qualify as a slap on the wrist given the circumstances.

NFL just wants to put this under the rug and move on.

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If he's getting six games for that, ain't nothing happening to Dan Snyder.

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[quote=Schneed10;1318865]If he's getting six games for that, ain't nothing happening to Dan Snyder.[/quote]

Exactly

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@AndrewBrandt

Current legal tally for Deshaun Watson behavior:
24 lawsuits settled by Watson;
30 lawsuits settled by Texans;
6-game suspension of Watson after disciplinary hearing;
Awaiting NFL decision on appeal.

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[quote=MTK;1318861]6 games? Seriously?

@AndrewBrandt
The discipline for Deshaun Watson is out:
Judge Robinson has suspended him the first six (6) games of the NFL season.
The NFLPA has said it will not appeal. The NFL has three days to appeal, if it so chooses.[/quote]

WOW! WTF?

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[quote=MTK;1318861]6 games? Seriously?

@AndrewBrandt
The discipline for Deshaun Watson is out:
Judge Robinson has suspended him the first six (6) games of the NFL season.
The NFLPA has said it will not appeal. The NFL has three days to appeal, if it so chooses.[/quote]

Crazy... Browns look real smart now...

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@AdamSchefter

49ers are giving Deebo Samuel a three-year, $71.55 million extension, including $58.1 million guaranteed, per sources.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1318869]Crazy... Browns look real smart now...[/quote]

They still gave up a lot for him, lets see how he performs after sitting for a year and half.

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[quote=MTK;1318870]@AdamSchefter

49ers are giving Deebo Samuel a three-year, $71.55 million extension, including $58.1 million guaranteed, per sources.[/quote]

McLaurin's deal broke the dam. Metcalf and Deebo both got pretty much the exact same contract.

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[quote=mredskins;1318871]They still gave up a lot for him, lets see how he performs after sitting for a year and half.[/quote]

Yeah. But knowing we have the Browns as our 2nd to last opponent this season, how are you feeling about our chances in that game now that you know he will have been playing in the nine games leading up to it?

You feeling good about it?

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[quote=Schneed10;1318873]Yeah. But knowing we have the Browns as our 2nd to last opponent this season, how are you feeling about our chances in that game now that you know he will have been playing in the nine games leading up to it?

You feeling good about it?[/quote]

Dude we are the Commanders, if Watson was suspend we were still losing. LOL!

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I don't know, I like our chances with Wentz having almost a full season under his belt by then, and if the D stays healthy.

Six game suspension is laughable though. Can't put this one on the NFL though... I would think they would want to appeal even if they don't think they will win.

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The best part is he's gonna come back in October with all the pink shit on his uni trying to raise awareness for women and breast cancer. Nice touch NFL.

Sometimes I hate myself for much I love football. This is one of those times.

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[quote=mooby;1318877]The best part is he's gonna come back in October with all the pink shit on his uni trying to raise awareness for women and breast cancer. Nice touch NFL.

Sometimes I hate myself for much I love football. This is one of those times.[/quote]

Oh man. That is bad...

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;1318873]Yeah. But knowing we have the Browns as our 2nd to last opponent this season, how are you feeling about our chances in that game now that you know he will have been playing in the nine games leading up to it?

You feeling good about it?[/QUOTE]


Watson still has the potential to be the best quarterback in the game, and if he doesn’t lose it mentally because of the wall of shit he is gonna hear all year long he will be. All personal shit aside dude was an absolute stud quarterback. Almost like no other in the game when he was playing.

14,539
104
36
104.5

Don’t get much better than that.

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[quote=punch it in;1318891]Watson still has the potential to be the best quarterback in the game, and if he doesn’t lose it mentally because of the wall of shit he is gonna hear all year long he will be. All personal shit aside dude was an absolute stud quarterback. Almost like no other in the game when he was playing.

14,539
104
36
104.5

Don’t get much better than that.[/quote]

He's legit but he has also missed 2 years of ball basically, it'll be interesting to see how he comes back

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[quote=punch it in;1318891]Watson still has the potential to be the best quarterback in the game, and if he doesn’t lose it mentally because of the wall of shit he is gonna hear all year long he will be. All personal shit aside dude was an absolute stud quarterback. Almost like no other in the game when he was playing.

14,539
104
36
104.5

Don’t get much better than that.[/quote]

He's also 28-26 in regard to the most important stat of all 🤷

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[QUOTE=Meks;1318896]He's also 28-26 in regard to the most important stat of all [emoji1745][/QUOTE]

Maybe if he was a tennis player.

Trust me when i tell you that none of those 26 losses were his fault. Last time i checked its a team game, and without him on it they would have been 10-44.

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They we also 4-12 with em one year.. records mean something and until he proves he's a winner I'm not anointing him anything but a qb.. for now. I'm not gonna argue the talent or potential but win a playoff game and start winning games and we'll talk

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so, NFL can still appeal and say 1 year, and then DW can drag it into court, in which case, I think the NFL has a better case to get its way (but it also keeps DW drama front and center for additional months).

I would have preferred two years :P

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[quote=Meks;1318903]They we also 4-12 with em one year.. records mean something and until he proves he's a winner I'm not anointing him anything but a qb.. for now. I'm not gonna argue the talent or potential but win a playoff game and start winning games and we'll talk[/quote]

I agree. I mean all I kept hearing from some of those who didn't like the idea of bringing in C Wentz is that a great QB is supposed to elevate all those around him - get the W, find a way to get it done, put the team on your back, etc. Doesn't seem like Watson, as good as he may be, has been able to do that with any consistency.

Going to be interesting to see how he is - coming back from almost a 2 year layoff (or more if the NFL appeals/wins).

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Unbelievable Watson just get 6 games.

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[quote=Meks;1318896]He's also 28-26 in regard to the most important stat of all 🤷[/quote]

[url]https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/carson-wentz-career-record-as-a-starter[/url]

Wentz is 44-40 so I agree with you, if Watson is Elite then Wentz is damn good. Similar stats, Wentz led his team to the playoffs as well.

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[quote=Chico23231;1318921]Unbelievable Watson just get 6 games.[/quote]

But don’t call Tom Brady when you are not suppose then you get the real NFL beat down.

See Miami Dolphins

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[quote=mredskins;1318935]But don’t call Tom Brady when you are not suppose then you get the real NFL beat down.

See Miami Dolphins[/quote]

Or bet on games when you're suspended.


The NFLPA gets all hardcore when it comes to protecting sexual predators or reducing practice time. But when it comes to advocate for better financial terms for players they fold like lawn chairs.

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This really seems suspect to me. So the Dolphins lose a 1st and a 3rd for talking to Payton and Brady while they were under contract with other teams, but the NFL found no evidence Ross asked Flores to tank?

[quote=ESPN]
In February, former Dolphins coach Brian Flores said in his lawsuit alleging racism in the league's hiring practices that Ross attempted to incentivize him to "tank," or purposely lose games, shortly after he was hired in 2019, with Ross allegedly offering Flores $100,000 for every loss that season. Flores alleged that as the team won games late in the season, Dolphins general manager Chris Grier told him Ross was "mad" that the on-field success was "compromising [the team's] draft position."
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So you have a GM and a coach that both knew about the owner being pissed they were winning and you also have a coach who put his name on the fucking record that the owner offered him 100k for every game he lost? But there's no evidence? The punishment makes me think the league is cracking them for tanking but using the Brady/Payton tampering as an excuse.

Between this and the Watson shit the league continues to lose major credibility.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1318938]Or bet on games when you're suspended.


The NFLPA gets all hardcore when it comes to protecting sexual predators or reducing practice time. But when it comes to advocate for better financial terms for players they fold like lawn chairs.[/quote]

The Watson thing it seems was based on the league's punishment of Kraft even though one is an NFL owner getting a consenting handy from a massage parlor and the other is a predator engaging 30-60 unwilling masseuses for happy endings.

It makes no sense. Unprecedented crimes equal unprecedented punishment. And the contract with the salary designed explicitly to avoid major financial penalties for his crimes? That should be punished too.

Our only hope is the Browns pull a Browns and fuck this up like they do almost every year.

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6 games for Watson seems fine by me. Seems like others wanted more, and thats fine.

Guy missed an entire season (paid) but unless the victims testified to the NFL investigators (havent heard anything like that) then all there is to go on is civil complaints and settlements (which arent an admission of guilt).

Id think the League wont appeal, they kinda choose to go this neutral arbitrator route to avoid appeals imo and so they can turn around and point to neutral arbitrator for 6 game scorn.

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[quote=SunnySide;1318949]6 games for Watson seems fine by me. Seems like others wanted more, and thats fine.

Guy missed an entire season (paid) but unless the victims testified to the NFL investigators (havent heard anything like that) then all there is to go on is civil complaints and settlements (which arent an admission of guilt).

Id think the League wont appeal, they kinda choose to go this neutral arbitrator route to avoid appeals imo and so they can turn around and point to neutral arbitrator for 6 game scorn.[/quote]

league just wants the drama to go away i'd bet. hurts ratings.

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The whole Watson thing is pretty disgusting. 6 games and a net less of about $350k for him. Really doesn't seem just at all. I thought he deserved a season long suspension. But the NFL is well known for taking it pretty light on their stars, so this is just par for the course. Still very disappointing.

It's why I have no hope for anything coming from the ongoing Snyder deal. They let all this disgusting behavior slide all in the name of keeping the money making machine moving forward.

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This doesn't sound good

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[quote=MTK;1318978]This doesn't sound good

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZPW_MuWYAEyiik?format=jpg&name=large[/IMG][/quote]

Pickett will be starting by week 4. Should start week 1.

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[quote=MTK;1318977]The whole Watson thing is pretty disgusting. 6 games and a net less of about $350k for him. Really doesn't seem just at all. I thought he deserved a season long suspension. But the NFL is well known for taking it pretty light on their stars, so this is just par for the course. Still very disappointing.

[B]It's why I have no hope for anything coming from the ongoing Snyder deal. They let all this disgusting behavior slide all in the name of keeping the money making machine moving forward.[/B][/quote]

It's true that if QB gets a slap on the wrist, it's hard to imagine an owner getting more than a "Ah good ol Danny, no big deal, just try and do better from now on"...
Difference being the possibility of getting tired of the bad press [I]on the long run[/I] still exists... But I'll admit it feels like the possibility, which was getting more likely to some extent, is fading away.

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Nothing happens unless the money stops flowing... big part of the name change was the sponsors raising the issue. Unless advertisers start to boycott ESPN and FOX NFL broadcasts because of consumer sentiment then the money will keep flowing and the owners wont see a need to change

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NFL problem solving be like:

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[IMG]https://c.tenor.com/QSqBssY2ZDMAAAAM/cleaning-lazy.gif[/IMG]

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[quote=MTK;1318978]This doesn't sound good

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZPW_MuWYAEyiik?format=jpg&name=large[/IMG][/quote]

This is why the "Wentz is terrible and he is the worst decision the team has made" crowd baffles me.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1319008]This is why the "Wentz is terrible and he is the worst decision the team has made" crowd baffles me.[/quote]

Yup. I remember Sheehan had talked himself into thinking Mitch T might be the best option here…then Wentz move happened and stated he didn’t like it.

I like taking the bigger swing with Wentz than settling on a cheaper option, Mitch T.

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@TomPelissero

The NFL is appealing Deshaun Watson’s six-game suspension.

Buckle up.