Pre Game Thread - Manders vs Da Bears
 

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[B]Vegas[/B] = Bears -1, o/u 38

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[B]Bears Offense[/B]

Passing - 32nd in league w 679 yds, 88 attempts 7.7 yds per pass
Running - 5th best w 787 yds, 4.9 carry

[B]Bears Defense[/B]

Passing D - 9th or so allowing 986 yds, 6.9 yds per pass
Running D - 31st allowing 850 yds and 4.9 carry

[B]Commanders Offense[/B]

Passing - 6th w 1,390 yds, 6.6 yds per pass
Running - bottom 10 w 454 yds, 3.9 per carry

[B]Commanders Defense[/B]

Passing D - middle of league, 1175 pass yds, 7.2 yds per pass
Run D - middle of league, 553 yds, 4.2 carry

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[B]Turnovers[/B]

1 - we have 1 fucking turnover and that was bc jags were on a desperate last min drive and had to take chances ... this HAS TO CHANGE.

Next closest team are the Raiders w 3.

8 - Bears turnovers

11 = league lead (bills, ravens, eagles .. ravens are 32nd in pass d, 1451 yds allowed)

[url]https://www.nfl.com/stats/team-stats/defense/passing/2022/reg/all[/url]

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I’ve never seen a team literally get no turnovers. I could see us ending the year with less than 5 at this pace.


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Like a fool I’ll watch again and get we get the win

Skins : 27
Bears: 17

Montez Orakpo: 0 sacks, but 5 near sacks for no game impact

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Tale of the Tape
Commute Times:
Chicago: 58.5 minutes
DC: 60.42 minutes
Advantage: Draw (not going to split hair about 2 minutes)

Famous Comedian:
Chicago: Bill Fucking Murray
DC: Dave Chapelle

Biased but advantage DC

Drinks
Chicago: The Old Fashioned
DC: The Rickey

Advantage Chicago

Food:
Chicago: Deep Dish Pizza
DC: Half smoke
Now I like my meat of questionable pig and cow origin stuffed into a hog casing as much as the next man but I think this is advantage Chicago

Prediction: Chicago with a 1 point victory where Washington runs out of time for a comeback like Sunday, set up by a questionable Dax Milne return that results in a longer commute time for a game winning drive and then I will bitch about the two minutes.

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I'll watch simply because it is a prime time game and I can actually see it out here in California. The Bears aren't a good team and we could certainly win. But we're no good either and the season feels lost.

Having said that, we'll probably win and then get destroyed by the Packers the week later and fall to 2-5. We then have the Colts -- Wentz's revenge game -- but as bad as the Colts are, it will be brain farts just like the Eagles game. We'll fall to 2-6 and Wentz will be shown the bench.

And I'd love to be wrong (except about beating the Bears).

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1325227]Tale of the Tape
Commute Times:
Chicago: 58.5 minutes
DC: 60.42 minutes
Advantage: Draw (not going to split hair about 2 minutes)

Famous Comedian:
Chicago: Bill Fucking Murray
DC: Dave Chapelle

Biased but advantage DC

Drinks
Chicago: The Old Fashioned
DC: The Rickey

Advantage Chicago

Food:
Chicago: Deep Dish Pizza
DC: Half smoke
Now I like my meat of questionable pig and cow origin stuffed into a hog casing as much as the next man but I think this is advantage Chicago

Prediction: Chicago with a 1 point victory where Washington runs out of time for a comeback like Sunday, set up by a questionable Dax Milne return that results in a longer commute time for a game winning drive and then I will bitch about the two minutes.[/quote]

Instant classic.

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Went to the last game we played there in the freezing cold but we killed them.

This time around I believe we win again 20-14 only because the Bears suck

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Chicago is a GREAT Food city. Best pizza and I am a NY Guy lol

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1325227]Tale of the Tape
Commute Times:
Chicago: 58.5 minutes
DC: 60.42 minutes
Advantage: Draw (not going to split hair about 2 minutes)

Famous Comedian:
Chicago: Bill Fucking Murray
DC: Dave Chapelle

Biased but advantage DC

Drinks
Chicago: The Old Fashioned
DC: The Rickey

Advantage Chicago

Food:
Chicago: Deep Dish Pizza
DC: Half smoke
Now I like my meat of questionable pig and cow origin stuffed into a hog casing as much as the next man but I think this is advantage Chicago

Prediction: Chicago with a 1 point victory where Washington runs out of time for a comeback like Sunday, set up by a questionable Dax Milne return that results in a longer commute time for a game winning drive and then I will bitch about the two minutes.[/quote]

This is what I need in my life. Well done!

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1325231]Chicago is a GREAT Food city. Best pizza and I am a NY Guy lol[/quote]

Chicago also has great strippers if you like tall polish women, glitter optional.

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Glitter shouldn’t be optional. NY/NJ has the best pizza because Chicago isn’t pizza its a pizza cake that you need to eat with silverware. It’s actually sacrilege.

We win this one 33-13.

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Chicago style is literally the worst pizza. In the words of Jon Stewart - it's a fucking casserole. Detroit style blows it out of the water. Lou Malnati can suck an egg.

DC 72
Bears 0

It's time for this team and Ron to get pissed off and play like someone's lighting their pubes on fire.

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Interesting article regarding the 49ers trading for Payne. If that was to happen they better rape the 49ers instead of the other way around.

[url]https://heavy.com/sports/san-francisco-49ers/trade-daron-payne-1st-round-pick/[/url]

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Right now I would pay Payne and trade Sweat. Payne is far more consistent and disruptive.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1325251]Interesting article regarding the 49ers trading for Payne. If that was to happen they better rape the 49ers instead of the other way around.

[url]https://heavy.com/sports/san-francisco-49ers/trade-daron-payne-1st-round-pick/[/url][/quote]

When was the last time Washington won a trade let alone rape another team. We tend to be the victims of such trades, see Williams, Trent

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I'm mildly interested in this game. I should record it because I'll probably fall asleep before halftime. Nah, I'm not gonna record it.

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[QUOTE=EdmundDorf;1325258]Right now I would pay Payne and trade Sweat. Payne is far more consistent and disruptive.[/QUOTE]


Agreed 100% about Payne being more consistent and disruptive but the return on Payne would be greater too. We have Allen, and Mathis going forward. I think that trading Payne to fill some other holes would be more fruitful. Not sure what we would get in return for Sweat.
Of course if GM Ron had kept Settle and drafted a fuckin LB or corner or LT this wouldn’t be an issue. Instead he let a young DT go to draft a DT cus he is a horses ass.

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Anyway back to this game. This is one of four games left on our schedule that we have a real chance to win, obviously any given Sunday blah blah but this is a team that struggles like us. Im not sure I want to win. Is winning 4-5 games really the answer? We literally need a top 2 pick to either deal or get a quarterback. Which leads me back to seeing if Howell is the guy. At some point id imagine that the staff is wondering the same thing.
So in conclusion, winning is ok and losing is ok so we cant lose!

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[quote=punch it in;1325266]Anyway back to this game. This is one of four games left on our schedule that we have a real chance to win, obviously any given Sunday blah blah but this is a team that struggles like us. Im not sure I want to win. Is winning 4-5 games really the answer? We literally need a top 2 pick to either deal or get a quarterback. Which leads me back to seeing if Howell is the guy. At some point id imagine that the staff is wondering the same thing.
So in conclusion, winning is ok and losing is ok so we cant lose![/quote]

PACKERS - LOSS
COLTS - TOSS UP BoTH TEAMS SUCK
VIKS - LOSS
EAGLES - LOSS
TEXANS - TOSS UP

So if we win tomorrow we are still sucking no matter what so I really don't care who wins that game..

5 wins max this season

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1325269]PACKERS - LOSS
COLTS - TOSS UP BoTH TEAMS SUCK
VIKS - LOSS
EAGLES - LOSS
TEXANS - TOSS UP

So if we win tomorrow we are still sucking no matter what so I really don't care who wins that game..

5 wins max this season[/QUOTE]


Exactly but you know if we win the that this is going to happen….

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Wentz is 6-0 all time on TNF..

3-0 Vs the Bears

Yeah we are losing lol

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1325227]Tale of the Tape
Commute Times:
Chicago: 58.5 minutes
DC: 60.42 minutes
Advantage: Draw (not going to split hair about 2 minutes)

Famous Comedian:
Chicago: Bill Fucking Murray
DC: Dave Chapelle

Biased but advantage DC

Drinks
Chicago: The Old Fashioned
DC: The Rickey

Advantage Chicago

Food:
Chicago: Deep Dish Pizza
DC: Half smoke
Now I like my meat of questionable pig and cow origin stuffed into a hog casing as much as the next man but I think this is advantage Chicago

Prediction: Chicago with a 1 point victory where Washington runs out of time for a comeback like Sunday, set up by a questionable Dax Milne return that results in a longer commute time for a game winning drive and then I will bitch about the two minutes.[/quote]

great post!

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Fields coming off perhaps his best game. I refuse to believe there is a curse for Ohio St QB's.. lol. Idk about this one, it's going to be close. If we lose to the Bears then someone may get fired. If Turner has another bad game then my guess is it'd be him.

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This is from a Bears site, all I have to say is dear good that 2007 game sounds awful. Sadly I do recall it. I was at a farm club monthly meeting and listened to what was remaining of the game on the radio on the drive home: [url]https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2022/10/12/23398032/week-6-game-preview-chicago-bears-washington-commanders-carson-wentz-terry-mclaurin[/url]

The last time these teams met on a Thursday night (and the only time) was back in week 14 of the 2007 season.

Each team cycled through two quarterbacks as starters Jason Campbell and Rex Grossman were replaced by Todd Collins and Brian Griese, respectively.

That’s four Bears quarterbacks in one Thursday night game. Wow.

The game featured 11 punts, two interceptions (both by Griese, on consecutive Bears’ drives), a fumble and three missed field goals.

Washington won 24-16.

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I hope we win just to see the false hope and dreams and talk about only being 3 games back in October. The kool aid will be sipped on until it is being guzzled and the Packers will be coming to town for a code red. I will be laughing at it on the post game thread but secretly looking at every game and believing there is a path to 10 wins because the team actually loves Ron and goes balls to the wall fighting for his job.

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I'm a closet Bears fan, I fucking loved Walter Payton.
Go Bears!

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[quote=jamf;1325312]I'm a closet Bears fan, I fucking loved Walter Payton.
Go Bears![/quote]

Not a closet Bears fan but how can you not be a Walter Payton fan.It still pisses me off refreezerator Perry got a td in the SB but Payton didn’t.If memory serves, I think Payton’s last game was against the skins in the playoffs, we won the game and I was a little sad because it was going to be Peyton’s last game, my memory could be wrong but that’s how I remember it.
As for this game I am not going to watch it because if I do I will find myself pulling for the skins, and at this point we are not going to make the playoffs, and I think it’s going to take losing every game before Snyder gets rid of Rivera

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[quote=htownskinfan;1325317]Not a closet Bears fan but how can you not be a Walter Payton fan.It still pisses me off refreezerator Perry got a td in the SB but Payton didn’t.If memory serves, I think Payton’s last game was against the skins in the playoffs, we won the game and I was a little sad because it was going to be Peyton’s last game, my memory could be wrong but that’s how I remember it.
As for this game I am not going to watch it because if I do I will find myself pulling for the skins, and at this point we are not going to make the playoffs, and I think it’s going to take losing every game before Snyder gets rid of Rivera[/quote]

You remember correctly. And Payton's last carry ended up short of a first down as he was mashed out of bounds and ended up under the Bears bench. And it was a playoff game (remember, we used to play in those).

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WJ3 not traveling with team and is out. Another frustrating signing by RR. Might be most frustrating due to size of his contract and dead weight value

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[quote=htownskinfan;1325317]Not a closet Bears fan but how can you not be a Walter Payton fan.It still pisses me off refreezerator Perry got a td in the SB but Payton didn’t.If memory serves, I think Payton’s last game was against the skins in the playoffs, we won the game and I was a little sad because it was going to be Peyton’s last game, my memory could be wrong but that’s how I remember it.
As for this game I am not going to watch it because if I do I will find myself pulling for the skins, and at this point we are not going to make the playoffs, and I think it’s going to take losing every game before Snyder gets rid of Rivera[/quote]

How can yall not watch? If I have something going on, some commitment okay. I dvr then quick view a few games a year.

Sundays is about lining up your food menu, making business decisions on how much you wanna drink a day before work Monday .. and basically the only 4 hours or so a week I am in charge of my house.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1325321]WJ3 not traveling with team and is out. Another frustrating signing by RR. Might be most frustrating due to size of his contract and dead weight value[/quote]

What a bust of a FA signing lol

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[quote=SunnySide;1325322]How can yall not watch? If I have something going on, some commitment okay. I dvr then quick view a few games a year.

Sundays is about lining up your food menu, making business decisions on how much you wanna drink a day before work Monday .. and basically the only 4 hours or so a week I am in charge of my house.[/quote]

I'm with you. I said last week that I wouldn't watch the Titans game. Guess where I was at 11:00 MST... At least it was a decent game that they had a chance to win.

My normal routine is to look up what food/meal the opponent's city is known for, and make or order that for lunch or dinner depending on the time of the game. I haven't done that lately, as I am losing interest in the whole routine...there's still plenty of beer or spirits though. :food-smil

I won't make a prediction. Part of me can see this team really taking the Bears to the wood shed on Thursday night. The other part of me can see another disappointing loss - however it transpires.

I'll be watching though, because my kids want to watch, because I'm guilty of child abuse and have them following in my footsteps as SkinsTeamManders fans. :embarrass

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[quote=htownskinfan;1325317]Not a closet Bears fan but how can you not be a Walter Payton fan.It still pisses me off refreezerator Perry got a td in the SB but Payton didn’t.If memory serves, I think Payton’s last game was against the skins in the playoffs, we won the game and I was a little sad because it was going to be Peyton’s last game, my memory could be wrong but that’s how I remember it.
As for this game I am not going to watch it because if I do I will find myself pulling for the skins, and at this point we are not going to make the playoffs, and I think it’s going to take losing every game before Snyder gets rid of Rivera[/quote]

Correct! Darrell Green with the punt return for the win!

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2021 pass block win rate:
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2022 pass block win rate:
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Just remember, correlation =/= causation.

From Ben Standig:
[url]https://twitter.com/BenStandig/status/1580295233862258689[/url]

If we are gonna stand a chance tonight this must improve.

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We went from being one of the best blocking o lines to hands down the worst. Changes in personnel, poor coaching. I would love to see ST implement a zone blocking scheme it is one way to mask an inferior o-line. My ideal offense spread or WRs, quick short routes, zone blocking using Gibsons quickness

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1325346]We went from being one of the best blocking o lines to hands down the worst. Changes in personnel, poor coaching. I would love to see ST implement a zone blocking scheme it is one way to mask an inferior o-line. My ideal offense spread or WRs, quick short routes, zone blocking using Gibson's quickness[/quote]

Agreed, the zone blocking was working for us.

On the Gibson note, I'm completely frustrated by the use of our backs. I get letting the young guy get his reps, but nobody is able to establish any type of groove.