1st 2023 NFL Draft Thread
 

23: R1 P23 - G Peter Skoronski - Northwestern
54: R2 P23 - TE Cameron Latu - Alabama
98: R3 P35 - C Ricky Stromberg - Arkansas
125: R4 P23 - LB Payton Wilson - NC State
158: R5 P23 - CB Tre'Vius Hodges-Tomlinson - TCU
198: R6 P23 - OT Ryan Hayes - Michigan
238: R7 P23 - OT Christian Jones - Texas
249: R7 P34 - QB Nolan Henderson - Delaware

Would need to bring in a veteran tackle or 2 in this instance.

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From what I read it doesn't sound like Skoronski will last that long. But ...

A. What is the solution at QB, that dictates all other moves
B. Is Cosmi now a G or still RT?

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1332999]From what I read it doesn't sound like Skoronski will last that long. But ...

A. What is the solution at QB, that dictates all other moves
B. Is Cosmi now a G or still RT?[/quote]

Yeah, I don't think so either. But you can only use who is/isn't available when doing a mock.

A. I like Howell more than most. I think he can be our starter next year. But still want a developmental guy to be drafted.

B. Good question. I think that is based on who else we add after the season. The good thing is he has some flexibility. My preference would be for him to play RT, because he is athletic for an OL. But I'm fine w/ G too.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1333001]Yeah, I don't think so either. But you can only use who is/isn't available when doing a mock.

A. I like Howell more than most. I think he can be our starter next year. But still want a developmental guy to be drafted.

B. Good question. I think that is based on who else we add after the season. The good thing is he has some flexibility. My preference would be for him to play RT, because he is athletic for an OL. But I'm fine w/ G too.[/quote]

I wasn't in the play Howell camp before this week but am coming around to the idea.

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1333004]I wasn't in the play Howell camp before this week but am coming around to the idea.[/quote]

I think he deserves a chance.

That being said, I won't be upset if they were to get a Carr or Goff, etc., if the price was right, or if they drafted a guy higher.

We all complain about not having a QB, so we can't complain about taking our swings. You gotta keep trying until you get your guy. Rivera set Wentz up for failure here. He needs a top-level OL to remotely have a chance to be successful, he gave him a bottom 5 pass-blocking OL. He never had a chance w/ this years line. But even considering that, he just doesn't look like he has enough good in the tank to try again next year.

My personal preference is to let Howell start, but I'm not opposed to other solutions either.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1333006]I think he deserves a chance.

That being said, I won't be upset if they were to get a Carr or Goff, etc., if the price was right, or if they drafted a guy higher.

We all complain about not having a QB, so we can't complain about taking our swings. You gotta keep trying until you get your guy. Rivera set Wentz up for failure here. He needs a top-level OL to remotely have a chance to be successful, he gave him a bottom 5 pass-blocking OL. He never had a chance w/ this years line. But even considering that, he just doesn't look like he has enough good in the tank to try again next year.

[B]My personal preference is to let Howell start[/B], but I'm not opposed to other solutions either.[/quote]

Guys havent played their hearts out, through pain all year ... to have a rookie come in and "see what hes got" in the crucial final 2 games to make the playoffs.

We are the 7th seed and in the playoffs right now.

Lets keep in medium, make the playoffs, take our first round exit and call this season a success all things considered.

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[quote=SunnySide;1333011]Guys havent played their hearts out, through pain all year ... to have a rookie come in and "see what hes got" in the crucial final 2 games to make the playoffs.

We are the 7th seed and in the playoffs right now.

Lets keep in medium, make the playoffs, take our first round exit and call this season a success all things considered.[/quote]

I was talking about for next year. No way they throw him in against the 9ers, especially on the road (although I'm not really against this either). Heinicke will start at least 1 more game then him or Wentz will start against Cleveland. If we lose that one, maybe Howell starts the last game of the season.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1333014]I was talking about for next year. No way they throw him in against the 9ers, especially on the road (although I'm not really against this either). Heinicke will start at least 1 more game then him or Wentz will start against Cleveland. If we lose that one, maybe Howell starts the last game of the season.[/quote]

As a non 1st round QB .. I like Devin Leary from NC State. Ranked around #16th for QBs, #160th or so overall

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[quote=SunnySide;1333011]Guys havent played their hearts out, through pain all year ... to have a rookie come in and "see what hes got" in the crucial final 2 games to make the playoffs.

We are the 7th seed and in the playoffs right now.

Lets keep in medium, make the playoffs, take our first round exit and call this season a success all things considered.[/quote]

You are being very optimistic about the playoffs. Giants need to win one more game and the Lions have an easy (ish) end to the schedule. Meanwhile our offense which scored net 5 points against the Giants is going to get eaten alive in at least 2 of our next 3 games. No sense in playing Howell now, would do more damage than good but increasingly likely he plays against the Cowboys.

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[quote=SunnySide;1333028]As a non 1st round QB .. I like Devin Leary from NC State. Ranked around #16th for QBs, #160th or so overall[/quote]

He is transferring and playing 1 more year.

[url]https://www.si.com/college/kentucky/football/nc-state-qb-transfer-kentucky-target-devin-leary-visiting-auburn[/url]

He has good numbers, possible 1st round pick pick if he has another good year wherever he goes.

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1333029]You are being very optimistic about the playoffs. Giants need to win one more game and the Lions have an easy (ish) end to the schedule. Meanwhile our offense which scored net 5 points against the Giants is going to get eaten alive in at least 2 of our next 3 games. No sense in playing Howell now, would do more damage than good but increasingly likely he plays against the Cowboys.[/quote]

Not sure how much the Cowboys will play their starters against us if they lose to the Eagles on Saturday. They'll likely be locked into the 5th spot if they lose Saturday.

Keep your eyes open for possible shady officiating to build up "last week of the season" hype.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1333031]He is transferring and playing 1 more year.

[url]https://www.si.com/college/kentucky/football/nc-state-qb-transfer-kentucky-target-devin-leary-visiting-auburn[/url]

He has good numbers, possible 1st round pick pick if he has another good year wherever he goes.[/quote]

Dang thanks for the info. Thought he might be a decent sleeper.

Hes 23 ...

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[quote=SunnySide;1333037]Dang thanks for the info. Thought he might be a decent sleeper.

Hes 23 ...[/quote]

Yeah, the extra year everyone got for COVID is making for lots of older dudes in college. Guys playing college for 6 years.

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23: R1 P23 - CB Joey Porter Jr. - Penn State
54: R2 P23 - OT Darnell Wright - Tennessee
98: R3 P35 - QB Aidan O'Connell - Purdue
125: R4 P23 - LB Nick Herbig - Wisconsin
158: R5 P23 - TE Sam LaPorta - Iowa
198: R6 P23 - G Jaylon Thomas - SMU
238: R7 P23 - C Alex Forsyth - Oregon
249: R7 P34 - OT Ryan Hayes - Michigan

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OT early, G/Cs late. QB and OL both need to be addressed if we want to see any real improvement (and yes, sam howell should have a shot, but drafting a QB in the 5th and making any assumption about him being the answer with no real game film is a bad bet, so I don't think his place on the roster should in any way stop the team from pursuing all possible options at QB)

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1332954]23: R1 P23 - G Peter Skoronski - Northwestern
54: R2 P23 - TE Cameron Latu - Alabama
98: R3 P35 - C Ricky Stromberg - Arkansas
125: R4 P23 - LB Payton Wilson - NC State
158: R5 P23 - CB Tre'Vius Hodges-Tomlinson - TCU
198: R6 P23 - OT Ryan Hayes - Michigan
238: R7 P23 - OT Christian Jones - Texas
249: R7 P34 - QB Nolan Henderson - Delaware

Would need to bring in a veteran tackle or 2 in this instance.[/quote]

We are fine at TE with Bates, Armani Rogers and Cole Turner. Cut Thomas and use that money to sign our FA’s. Need OL, MLB and CB the order on whatever the best talent is available.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1333059]We are fine at TE with Bates, Armani Rogers and Cole Turner. Cut Thomas and use that money to sign our FA’s. Need OL, MLB and CB the order on whatever the best talent is available.[/quote]

Don't forget QB. We need a QB.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1333070]Don't forget QB. We need a QB.[/quote]

Not forgetting, Howell is our future QB, just needs a chance to prove it, if only Rivera had the balls to make the move. Putting Wentz back in is going backwards, how many times do they want to see him get sacked?

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21: R1 P21 - TE Michael Mayer - Notre Dame
52: R2 P21 - OT Anton Harrison - Oklahoma
98: R3 P35 - CB Anthony Johnson - Virginia
123: R4 P21 - QB Jake Haener - Fresno State
156: R5 P21 - LB Ivan Pace Jr. - Cincinnati
196: R6 P21 - OT Tyler Steen - Alabama
236: R7 P21 - G Jerome Carvin - Tennessee
249: R7 P34 - C Alex Forsyth - Oregon

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QB, QB, QB.
Draft the best prospects available at the QB position.

Any draft board that doesn't have us taking a QB in the first round is bullshit.

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[quote=jamf;1334112]QB, QB, QB.
Draft the best prospects available at the QB position.

Any draft board that doesn't have us taking a QB in the first round is bullshit.[/quote]

I got you...

21: R1 P21 - QB Will Levis - Kentucky
52: R2 P21 - QB Anthony Richardson - Florida
98: R3 P35 - QB Jake Haener - Fresno State
123: R4 P21 - QB Dillon Gabriel - Oklahoma
156: R5 P21 - QB Malik Cunningham - Louisville
196: R6 P21 - QB Austin Aune - North Texas
236: R7 P21 - QB Nolan Henderson - Delaware
249: R7 P34 - QB Tanner Morgan - Minnesota

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I am drafting a QB but not in the first two rounds. I think the 4th round is fine. The first two picks, 1st and 2nd round are hopefully on the o-line but you always draft BPA w/ those first two picks.

SD all of those guys you have listed are 4th rounders or later imo. Cunningham should probably switch positions and become a slot wr and a teams guy.

I really don't think this is a strong QB class.

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[quote=jamf;1334112]QB, QB, QB.
Draft the best prospects available at the QB position.

Any draft board that doesn't have us taking a QB in the first round is bullshit.[/quote]

I don't understand why teams don't take a QB every other yr until they find their guy...

It's Literally the MOST IMPORTANT position

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BPA all the way, excluding DTs if we resign Payne. Even if it means not drafting QB until later in late rounds, or even not drafting one. We gotta face the facts, the QB pool is very limited and we are not in the position to draft top rookie QBs. Our best option for finding a new QB is through free agency but there will be no one that can carry the team to SB.

The best strategy for the team is to solidify the entire team, and have open QB competition in the training camp. If the team is better next year then we can afford to give up some capitals to trade for a QB or move up in the draft to draft top rookie QB.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1334124]I am drafting a QB but not in the first two rounds. I think the 4th round is fine. The first two picks, 1st and 2nd round are hopefully on the o-line but you always draft BPA w/ those first two picks.

SD all of those guys you have listed are 4th rounders or later imo. Cunningham should probably switch positions and become a slot wr and a teams guy.

I really don't think this is a strong QB class.[/quote]

Yeah, not a fan of the QB class at all. I like the Fresno State or Purdue QBs as possible mid round picks, but that's about it.

I'd like to go Tackle and CB, in either order, in the 1st 2 rounds.

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QB would have to be Max Duggan

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1334165]QB would have to be Max Duggan[/quote]

Everytime I turn on TCU that guy is making plays- either throwing dime deep balls or making plays w/ his legs.

Not sure where he'll go in the draft but the kid is a baller.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1334166]Everytime I turn on TCU that guy is making plays- either throwing dime deep balls or making plays w/ his legs.

Not sure where he'll go in the draft but the kid is a baller.[/quote]

The Fiesta bowl is the craziest game I’ve seen.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1334167]The Fiesta bowl is the craziest game I’ve seen.[/quote]

TCU refuses to win this game.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1334165]QB would have to be Max Duggan[/quote]

Big fan. He is so competitive

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[quote=Chico23231;1334170]Big fan. He is so competitive[/quote]

Heinicke is competitive too lol.

He's a great college QB, but don't see a NFL starter in him.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1334171]Heinicke is competitive too lol.

He's a great college QB, but don't see a NFL starter in him.[/quote]

I’m gonna be honest, the best thing that could happen is if someone came in and gave Henike a big contract this offseason

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[quote=Chico23231;1334173]I’m gonna be honest, the best thing that could happen is if someone came in and gave Henike a big contract this offseason[/quote]

I agree, I hope he gets paid by 1 of the other 31 teams.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1334126]I don't understand why teams don't take a QB every other yr until they find their guy...

It's Literally the MOST IMPORTANT position[/quote]

Or two guys!
Try to find another KC.

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Stroud flexing a big dick tonight. Very impressive performance so far.

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Georgia OC is garbage. Calling all these Scott Turner plays, trying to be cute. Dude needs to be running the ball.

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There's a reason kickers can last like 20 years in the NFL. It's not because they stay awesome, it's because most kickers in college suck and are scared of the moment. Ohio State's kicker missed a 50 yard kick in a dome, by like 20 yards. He missed that kick well before he stepped onto the field.

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14: R1 P14 - CB Joey Porter Jr. - Penn State
45: R2 P14 - LB Drew Sanders - Arkansas
98: R3 P35 - G Matthew Jones - Ohio State
116: R4 P14 - QB Aidan O'Connell - Purdue
149: R5 P14 - OT Connor Galvin - Baylor
189: R6 P14 - C Jarrett Patterson - Notre Dame
229: R7 P14 - OT Ryan Hayes - Michigan
249: R7 P34 - G T.J. Bass - Oregon

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1st week of the playoffs, or what we call it around here: Official draft season.

16: R1 P16 - CB Joey Porter Jr. - Penn State
47: R2 P16 - OT Jaelyn Duncan - Maryland
98: R3 P35 - C Sedrick Van Pran-Granger - Georgia
118: R4 P16 - LB Cedric Gray - North Carolina
151: R5 P16 - QB Jake Haener - Fresno State
191: R6 P16 - G Nick Saldiveri - Old Dominion
231: R7 P16 - OT Mike Edwards - Campbell
249: R7 P34 - LB Troy Brown - Ole Miss

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1335786]1st week of the playoffs, or what we call it around here: Official draft season.

16: R1 P16 - CB Joey Porter Jr. - Penn State
47: R2 P16 - OT Jaelyn Duncan - Maryland
98: R3 P35 - C Sedrick Van Pran-Granger - Georgia
118: R4 P16 - LB Cedric Gray - North Carolina
151: R5 P16 - QB Jake Haener - Fresno State
191: R6 P16 - G Nick Saldiveri - Old Dominion
231: R7 P16 - OT Mike Edwards - Campbell
249: R7 P34 - LB Troy Brown - Ole Miss[/quote]

Don't know anything about any of those players, but I like the focus of your draft. I may sprinkle in a D-lineman/Edge guy in there somewhere just to have someone to develop and provide depth.