You picking up Chase Young 5th Year Option?
 

The deadline is May 1st after the draft to pick up the 5th year option for Chase Young. To me, it’s a no brainer you pick it up and you go into this year with the plan for Montez and Chase competing for the long term extension.

If you don’t pick it up, you do risk losing both starting DE not this league year, but the following.

You picking it up? I think he has shown enough but has a lot more to prove as well but it protects us.

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I would. The sack stats scare people but they're so up and down, they have a fluky nature to them. Especially in shortened seasons.

In 2021 Young had only 1.5 sacks but he had a pass rush win rate in the top 15 for DEs. You'd like him to be better than that given he was the #2 overall pick but if all we got was the 15th best pass rushing DE that's still worth the $17M option salary. So even though he only got home a few times he still put heat on the QB and disrupted the play. A few things break just slightly differently and he could have gotten 5 sacks in those 9 games.

Last year he was recovering and only played three games, not even worth analyzing the data.

As for the question of how much cap space do you devote to the defensive line, it's a real good question and I think now that we've got Payne and Allen locked up we have to plan on losing one of the DEs. I think I look to trade Sweat before the deadline this year. Right now Chase isn't going to carry max trade value because people will still wonder about the knee recovery. But you could get something back for Montez.

As for whether Ron would trade Montez or Young before the deadline, I don't think he will because he needs to win this year. But you didn't ask me what I thought Ron would do, you asked me what I'd do. I think you give Chase the option year and look to extend him next offseason assuming he looks good, and trade Montez so you don't have a 2025 team made up of nothing but DLs and a bunch of jags.

Long story short, don't sell low on Chase. Extend him, and sell Montez now while his value league-wide is respected.

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YES

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By the way Chico good thread to get some good football discussion going. So tired of sale talk.

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[quote=Schneed10;1340080]By the way Chico good thread to get some good football discussion going. [B] So tired of sale tal[/B]k.[/quote]

I heard Josh Harris is buying the team.

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[quote=mredskins;1340082]I heard Josh Harris is buying the team.[/quote]

LMAO

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It's not even a question IMO.

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I think they should pick up his 5th year. He's still young and he's still a good player. I just don't think he's ever going to be a dominant one.

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[quote=Schneed10;1340080]By the way Chico good thread to get some good football discussion going. So tired of sale talk.[/quote]

So do you all think the delay in deciding is caused by the pending sale??? I think we should focus on that angle.:devil:

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[quote=mredskins;1340082]I heard Josh Harris is buying the team.[/quote]

Damn beat me to it.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1340088]I think they should pick up his 5th year. He's still young and he's still a good player. I just don't think he's ever going to be a dominant one.[/quote]

I think the jury is still out on “dominant player”and his talent won him accolades in his rookie year showing he can compete and excel in this league.

But can he recover from injury and play in unison with this dline? I think is the question

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[quote=skinsfan69;1340088]I think they should pick up his 5th year. He's still young and he's still a good player. I just don't think he's ever going to be a dominant one.[/quote]

Me either . . . don't think he will be close . . . not even close to Sweat's level.

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[URL="https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/03/28/ron-rivera-commanders-new-owner-could-be-a-factor-in-chase-youngs-fifth-year-option/"]Source (PFT):[/URL]

[quote]Rivera told reporters at the league meeting that the Commanders have not yet decided whether to pick up defensive end Chase Young‘s fifth-year option in part because a new owner could be a factor in whether the team is willing to guarantee significant money to Young for the 2024 season.

“It’s a very delicate situation,” Rivera said.

The Commanders’ free agent contracts have been structured in such a way that suggests that Snyder expects to sell the team fairly soon — and that he wants the new owner to be on the hook for the signing bonuses of this year’s free agent class.

The NFL deadline for teams to pick up fifth-year options is May 2, so the Commanders will have to decide fairly soon. But if they do pick up Young’s option, we don’t yet know which owner will be signing his paychecks in 2024.[/quote]

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I think it's a no-brainer. You pick up the option. There is more to lose than there is to gain by not picking it up IMO. I understand the owner situation, but once that is resolved, the only answer is yes.

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yes. he's shown enough to warrant it, and not enough to go into BIG CONTRACT talks yet, so it makes sense, and there's no character baggage or red flags, it's just getting past the injury and producing.

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Yes. Better to option him now and get at least an extra year on rookie money. If he bombs its a 1 year rental. If he soars you have time to negotiate.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1340111]Yes. Better to option him now and get at least an extra year on rookie money. If he bombs its a 1 year rental. If he soars you have time to negotiate.[/quote]

Might end up franchising Sweat after this year and Chase after 2024. And I'm fine with that. The 1st year franchise tag is a valuable tool for teams.

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[quote=That Guy;1340108]yes. he's shown enough to warrant it, and not enough to go into BIG CONTRACT talks yet, so it makes sense, and there's no character baggage or red flags, it's just getting past the injury and producing.[/quote]

Knock on wood my brother…we got too round these parts

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Unless there are concerns about his knee, you absolutely pick up the 5th year.

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[QUOTE=AnonEmouse;1340111]Yes. Better to option him now and get at least an extra year on rookie money. If he bombs its a 1 year rental. If he soars you have time to negotiate.[/QUOTE]


Agreed. His knee isn’t my main concern even. I just do not think he is the dynamic playmaker we hoped he was. But we have to give him one more chance and I will just hope he learns to be that dynamic player. I just don’t see it happening.

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[quote=punch it in;1340325]Agreed. His knee isn’t my main concern even. I just do not think he is the dynamic playmaker we hoped he was. But we have to give him one more chance and I will just hope he learns to be that dynamic player. I just don’t see it happening.[/quote]

He was pretty damn dynamic in his rookie year

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Snyder sells, Chase plays like he did his rookie season, we hit on a few draft picks, and Howell can be solid, we can have a good season. I don't think that's unreasonable. Howell will be the biggest wildcard imo.

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I stopped reading after Snyder sells -- that is honestly the only thing I care about at the moment.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1340328]He was pretty damn dynamic in his rookie year[/QUOTE]


I don’t know why but my gut just says he will never be the game changer I thought he was going to be. Hope my gut is dead ass wrong.

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Without a doubt, had a great rookie season then got hurt. He was a second overall pick for a reason and will bounce back. I would pay all 4 (Allen, Sweat, Payne and young). We have no QB, OL, LB, RB, TE to pay, pretend 2 of them play OL. Other teams are paying QB, OL, LB, etc. We have a few years to play them and can always trade any of them. Draft 2 young OL with the 1st 3 picks.

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My college roommate from Columbus is a diehard Buckeye (and WFT fan) and thinks Chase is overrated. But though I am not sold on him long term, it makes total sense to pick up his 5th and get a fix on his value. I just wish these high draft picks of the past few years could be developing in whatever the new Harris regime is going to be. Arrington is the cautionary tale in this regard — a beast who never got into a good coaching groove.


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[URL="https://www.si.com/nfl/commanders/news/washington-commanders-chase-young-defensive-end-fifth-year-option-ron-rivera-offseason-program-voluntary"]Chase Young Reports as Commanders Begin Offseason Program[/URL]

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[quote=MTK;1340729][URL="https://www.si.com/nfl/commanders/news/washington-commanders-chase-young-defensive-end-fifth-year-option-ron-rivera-offseason-program-voluntary"]Chase Young Reports as Commanders Begin Offseason Program[/URL][/quote]

One thing Chase can’t say is his teammates who show up and produce aren’t taken care up. See line mates Allen & Payne

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Looks like Ron is going to make him earn that big $$

@NickiJhabvala
The Commanders are not going to exercise DE Chase Young’s fifth-year option, per sources.


@NickiJhabvala
Worth noting that Ron Rivera has a track record of paying guys after career seasons. Look no further than Daron Payne. His fifth year was exercised, but the team didn’t extend him before last season. And then he had 11.5 sacks.

Young could still get paid.

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Don't think we can rule out taking an edge rusher somewhere in the first few picks now.

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[quote=MTK;1341020]Looks like Ron is going to make him earn that big $$

@NickiJhabvala
The Commanders are not going to exercise DE Chase Young’s fifth-year option, per sources.

@NickiJhabvala
Worth noting that Ron Rivera has a track record of paying guys after career seasons. Look no further than Daron Payne. His fifth year was exercised, but the team didn’t extend him before last season. And then he had 11.5 sacks.

Young could still get paid.[/quote]

[quote=MTK;1341022]Don't think we can rule out taking an edge rusher somewhere in the first few picks now.[/quote]

I'll just go ahead and mark Chase Young down as being our franchise tag player in 2024.

But yeah, definitely should look at drafting an edge rusher, even if late in the draft just in case.

Hopefully this is good news for extending Sweat. Maybe they made their choice that Sweat is the better of the two. Otherwise, we are losing 1 of them next year. Can't franchise tag both of them. Also, would be pretty crazy to sign both of them to huge deals after this season.

Gotta say, this is very surprising.

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The timing of this 'source' telling Nicki this now is interesting. Bet your life they're taking calls for Chase tomorrow night during round 1.

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[quote=Schneed10;1341024]The timing of this 'source' telling Nicki this now is interesting. Bet your life they're taking calls for Chase tomorrow night during round 1.[/quote]

Extend Sweat and trade Young might be the best option at this point. I'd love to be a fly on the wall internally, about the discussions on Chase.

Having both be FA's after this season could be untenable.

A possible 3rd round comp pick is not good enough for the No. 2 overall pick or a guy you traded back-up into the 1st to get. If we aren't keeping both, we need to get something good for them (or 1 of them).

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[quote=Schneed10;1341024]The timing of this 'source' telling Nicki this now is interesting. Bet your life they're taking calls for Chase tomorrow night during round 1.[/quote]

For sure, they'd be dumb not to

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[quote=MTK;1341028]For sure, they'd be dumb not to[/quote]

Would you trade a First for CY though?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1341030]Would you trade a First for CY though?[/quote]

He's still the kind of talent where, if you believe a recovery will happen, he could be worth a 1 plus to you. There will also be teams that wouldn't touch him because of the unknown with the knee.

But it just takes one out of 31 teams and so they'll surely take calls.

I think trading him might be the right move if you can get the right deal.

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I also think it's quite possible, and I'm just speculating here, that Ron doesn't think Chase is much of a team guy.

Talked about maturity a few years ago, talked about getting guys to buy in and not freelance, talked about how his recovery last year came down to him trusting the knee and it wasn't the doctors holding him back.

I'm not sure Ron thinks he can count on Chase to put the team first. I think Ron thinks that if Chase were considering the team he would have gotten on the field sooner last year.

Again just speculating but I can see a trade being an extremely real possibility tomorrow night.

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[quote=Schneed10;1341032]I also think it's quite possible, and I'm just speculating here, that Ron doesn't think Chase is much of a team guy.

Talked about maturity a few years ago, talked about getting guys to buy in and not freelance, talked about how his recovery last year came down to him trusting the knee and it wasn't the doctors holding him back.

I'm not sure Ron thinks he can count on Chase to put the team first. I think Ron thinks that if Chase were considering the team he would have gotten on the field sooner last year.

Again just speculating but I can see a trade being an extremely real possibility tomorrow night.[/quote]

I'd absolutely trade Chase for a 1st rounder right now, even pick 31, straight up. Just based on the questions and the position the team will be in at DE after the season if nothing is done. Then draft another guy to have on a rookie deal again (w/ any pick, not necessarily that one).

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[quote=MTK;1341022]Don't think we can rule out taking an edge rusher somewhere in the first few picks now.[/quote]

IMO we would need to anyway as it would be extremely difficult to keep both Sweat and Chase, so chances are we are going to need to replace one of them either way and getting someone drafted and ready for that time makes sense. They have looked at quite a few Edge players from what i've read.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1341030]Would you trade a First for CY though?[/quote]

Someone might considering how young he still is, and if the medicals check out