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Immediate thoughts:

Howell had a mostly good day today aside from that turrible endzone pick. That's two weeks in a row with mostly getting the ball out quick - one of his sacks was basically him trying to scramble and only getting back to the LOS. Another one was immediate pressure off the snap.

Two weeks in a row the reffing was absolutely turrible. TURRIBLE. I don't like to play that game but they were ignoring premature DB touching all day today on both sides. And that sack roughing the passer call? That was the most horseshit call I've seen this year.

Jamin Davis - I've seen enough. Yeah he had the nice PBU at the end but waste of a first rounder afaic. Wasted Ron pick.

Remains to be seen but felt like Allen/Payne were pretty quiet today other than a few nice run stops at the LOS. JDR needs to adjust so we can get better pressure.

Scary Terry had a nice bounce back game today. O-line played pretty solid today other than a couple bad plays.

Phidarian Mathis - only time I saw him was when he was getting his ass beat. Waste of a 2nd rounder afaic.

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Negatives:

No pass rush, surprise, surprise
Refs sucked dick all day
EB inconsistent play calling
LB’s

Positives:

BRob
Terry
OL
Forbes
Howell
Dotson
Gibson
Martin

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Howell is the real deal. He’s a gamer and is pretty damn accurate in tight spaces.

Defense was iffy but really they only allowed 2 long drives. The Fumble by Brob wasn’t on the defense.

We need LB BAD…..


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2 weeks in a row with much improved line play and Howell mostly getting the ball out quickly. A lot more enjoyable to watch.

Howell, please never throw as an egregious interception as that again please.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1351221]2 weeks in a row with much improved line play and Howell mostly getting the ball out quickly. A lot more enjoyable to watch.

Howell, please never throw as an egregious interception as that again please.[/QUOTE]


He is a gunslinger. That will happen to those guys but he will also throw some ridiculous good balls too


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[quote=skinsfaninok;1351223]He is a gunslinger. That will happen to those guys but he will also throw some ridiculous good balls too

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That was not gunslinging though. That was just terrible.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1351224]That was not gunslinging though. That was just terrible.[/quote]

He's a rookie.

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It took Cousins about 5 seasons to stop making dumb plays in the red zone. If Howell can do it in one season that would be a win.

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3 points allowed the second half and the defense was given shitty short field on the b Rob fumble. Davis blew his assignment on the long TD run. But the team played decent defense on the road

Absolute bullshit, terrible throw by Sam int in the end zone but bad coaching contributed. I’m sorry, 3 timeouts and the clock was winding at like 34 seconds…Ron should have called a Timeout, plus it allows for a running play.

Sam played well sans he one throw. Man, Dotson tried to one arm a long pass which was perfectly thrown with tight coverage and Brown let a fuckin TD go right threw his hands. Dyami Brown sucks.

1 sack seemed like it was on him, but he’s made progress.

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Nice run by Howell as well. Pringle made a couple of big catches.

The Dline was quiet. I thought the call on Henry was terrible. Forbes had a nice game, which is good to see. Lol at JDR’s look when he showed Davis the clip of messed up assignment by him.

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Per Keim:

In the last five games, Sam Howell has thrown for 1,510 yards -- most in the NFL. He also has thrown for 10 TDs during this time, tied for most.

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If Howell is the quarterback of the future we are in a really good position going forward. I think he is. We have enough picks and cap space to fix the oline and lb corp. I really hope we get the right people in here to make that happen.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1351232]Per Keim:

In the last five games, Sam Howell has thrown for 1,510 yards -- most in the NFL. He also has thrown for 10 TDs during this time, tied for most.[/QUOTE]


In this system we have found our Guy.


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[quote=punch it in;1351235]If Howell is the quarterback of the future we are in a really good position going forward. I think he is. We have enough picks and cap space to fix the oline and lb corp. I really hope we get the right people in here to make that happen.[/quote]

Need a pass rush now, it was non-existent except for the KJ Henry sack and fumble that was bullshit penalty.

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Bill Belichick must be feeling the end is nigh. On another note, Casey FN Toohill is about to show the world his dominance. The one tackle he had today will propel him to carry this once proud franchise back to prominence.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1351232]Per Keim:

In the last five games, Sam Howell has thrown for 1,510 yards -- most in the NFL. He also has thrown for 10 TDs during this time, tied for most.[/quote]

He had 45 pass attempts this week most of any thrower. I do think that the run/pass balance was a bit better with 29 rushes. A lot came in the 4th quarter though. I think about 9. I would prefer to see a bit more running. Maybe a 60:40 pass :run ratio. They were close today. His yards per attempt is solid too.

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QB Sam Howell did well executing the game plan. He threw for over 300 yards, his third game this season

Magic Johnson


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[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;1351241]He had 45 pass attempts this week most of any thrower. I do think that the run/pass balance was a bit better with 29 rushes. A lot came in the 4th quarter though. I think about 9. I would prefer to see a bit more running. Maybe a 60:40 pass :run ratio. They were close today. His yards per attempt is solid too.[/QUOTE]


I agree, I think AG needs more touches too but overall I can’t be mad at EB too much. The offense is at least fun to watch at times


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Mac Jones will not be starting in NE next year. He missed so many passes. Del Rio should have been sending a lot of pressure.

EB was better today but on the drive where Sam threw the pick, run the ball there dude.
He is still way too pass happy. Get in the I and run BR. You had 3 timeouts. smh..

Perfect team for Forbes to get some confidence. Hope he can continue to play like he did today.

Outside of the int Sam played great in spots. We gotta take the good w/ the bad. He threw some absolute dimes. We all gotta remember we are basically playing a rookie and w/ that comes rookie bs.

And give Ron some credit. He had one of our defenders fall down and play hurt so he could take a look at the incomplete pass.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1351246]Mac Jones will not be starting in NE next year. He missed so many passes. Del Rio should have been sending a lot of pressure.

EB was better today but on the drive where Sam threw the pick, run the ball there dude.
He is still way too pass happy. Get in the I and run BR. You had 3 timeouts. smh..

Perfect team for Forbes to get some confidence. Hope he can continue to play like he did today.

Outside of the int Sam played great in spots. We gotta take the good w/ the bad. He threw some absolute dimes. We all gotta remember we are basically playing a rookie and w/ that comes rookie bs.
[B]
And give Ron some credit. He had one of our defenders fall down and play hurt so he could take a look at the incomplete pass.[/B][/quote]

That should be the standard from now on if there is a questionable catch by the opponent.

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While the D played pretty good, I thought the absence of Sweat & Young was noticeable. If it was a better QB than M Jones, it probably would have been a different outcome.

Sam was very good I thought. That INT was pretty bad, but that 24 yard run was pretty damn good. That's what you get with a rookie QB. I like that he has a short memory. He's able to flush his mistakes, move on and do good things.

Just the way I like my Sundays, a Washington win and a Dallas loss.

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I felt like the run game was actually given a chance today, and the team actually ran out of i-formation instead of just showing we could line up in it.

that roughing on the sack was pure garbage fire. I'd be confused too if I was KJ. What's he supposed to do, sit there and watch him throw it?

I like the fake injury to give Ron enough time to process challenging that play.

We beat the team we're supposed to beat. Feels better than throwing the eagles game (drops/refs/ron/eb).

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The roughing call wasn't a bad call, its a stupid rule. What's a defender to do, Olympic level gymnastics mid tackle to avoid landing on a QB? And risk injury to himself in the process? The rule was added to stop defenders driving QBs into the ground deliberately, not simply making tackles.

I was watching on Redzone so I missed a lot, but from what I saw the pass rush was basic and all about collapsing the pocket, not freeing up defenders to get to the QB. No twists, stunts etc. JDR has 0 innovation.

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Just found out that this is our first win against Pats since 2003 and the score in the 2003 game is 20-17 as well.

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[quote=GridIron26;1351254]Just found out that this is our first win against Pats since 2003 and the score in the 2003 game is 20-17 as well.[/quote]

i actually went to that game, i found the ticket stub during the game when they mentioned it.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1351251]The roughing call wasn't a bad call, its a stupid rule. What's a defender to do, Olympic level gymnastics mid tackle to avoid landing on a QB? And risk injury to himself in the process? The rule was added to stop defenders driving QBs into the ground deliberately, not simply making tackles.

I was watching on Redzone so I missed a lot, but from what I saw the pass rush was basic and all about collapsing the pocket, not freeing up defenders to get to the QB. No twists, stunts etc. JDR has 0 innovation.[/quote]

Bad call and a bad rule.

He didn't drive him to the ground or land on him with his full weight. It was as clean as it gets.

These calls need to be reviewable or NY should buzz in and say pick that shit up.

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[quote=MTK;1351260]Bad call and a bad rule.

He didn't drive him to the ground or land on him with his full weight. It was as clean as it gets.

These calls need to be reviewable or NY should buzz in and say pick that shit up.[/quote]

This^

Washington should review all the sacks this year that align with this type of hit from behind and submit it to the NFL. I’m sure if this was TJ Watt, Bosa brothers, this would have Never been called.

Fucking insane call

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1351247]That should be the standard from now on if there is a questionable catch by the opponent.[/quote]

Yeah credit where it's due, that was a clutch move by staff and player.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1351248]While the D played pretty good, I thought the absence of Sweat & Young was noticeable. If it was a better QB than M Jones, it probably would have been a different outcome.

Sam was very good I thought. That INT was pretty bad, but that 24 yard run was pretty damn good. That's what you get with a rookie QB. I like that he has a short memory. He's able to flush his mistakes, move on and do good things.

Just the way I like my Sundays, a Washington win and a Dallas loss.[/quote]

Forgot about that 24 yard run on 3rd and 23, that was clutch af. Howell's got that Heinicke moxey, just a way better arm.

Shoutout to Heinicke too, remember how Ron was gonna turn to him in the last game of the year last season? Howell owes Heinicke a 10% cut of his next contract lol.

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The roughing call was embarrassingly bad. The officiating was horrendously bad. That crew needs to go. I'm being serious, just put flags on the QB.

I loved the rush from Henry. Get him more snaps please cause no one else sniffed the QB.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1351270]The roughing call was embarrassingly bad. The officiating was horrendously bad. That crew needs to go. I'm being serious, just put flags on the QB.

I loved the rush from Henry. Get him more snaps please cause no one else sniffed the QB.[/quote]

The takedown was textbook. If the NFL starts calling that roughing the passer consistently they gotta be outta their fucking minds.

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4-5, I am going to start referring to this record as The Rivera. He's just a 4-5 kinda guy.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1351270]The roughing call was embarrassingly bad. The officiating was horrendously bad. That crew needs to go. I'm being serious, just put flags on the QB.

I loved the rush from Henry. Get him more snaps please cause no one else sniffed the QB.[/quote]

The NFL needs to quit being cheap and have full time officials. NFL is consistently inconsistent in their officiating. These guys should be doing more in between games to be getting in to game shape and this shouldn't be a side job for them. I don't mind a rule as long as it in enforced equitably and consistently.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1351282]4-5, I am going to start referring to this record as The Rivera. He's just a 4-5 kinda guy.[/quote]

Footballs version of the Mendoza line

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1351285]Footballs version of the Mendoza line[/quote]

I'm curious how this compares to all his other midseason records as coach of this team. Seems like we have the same flow every year - slow starts, losing record halfway, baller November record (10-1 last two years plus this year iirc), followed by December mediocrity to end up just outside the playoff picture.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1351246]Mac Jones will not be starting in NE next year. He missed so many passes. Del Rio should have been sending a lot of pressure.

EB was better today but on the drive where Sam threw the pick, run the ball there dude.
He is still way too pass happy. Get in the I and run BR. You had 3 timeouts. smh..

Perfect team for Forbes to get some confidence. Hope he can continue to play like he did today.

Outside of the int Sam played great in spots. We gotta take the good w/ the bad. He threw some absolute dimes. We all gotta remember we are basically playing a rookie and w/ that comes rookie bs.

[B]And give Ron some credit. He had one of our defenders fall down and play hurt so he could take a look at the incomplete pass.[/quote][/B]

I thought the player faked being hurt because Ron was not challenging the call on the field. He gave the guys time in the booth to get Ron to challenge the play.

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Referee Adrian Hill said afterward that the hit was clean, but that the flag was thrown because of how Henry landed on Jones.

“The ruling on the field was that the defender came down with forcible contact, chest-to-chest,” Hill said in a pool report. "He didn’t perform one of those acts to remove most of that body weight – a gator roll or a clear to the side when he was coming in. He came down directly with that force on the player, so the category was full body weight.”

Anybody got replay footage of the sack?

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[quote=Fishingfool;1351289][/B]

I thought the player faked being hurt because Ron was not challenging the call on the field. He gave the guys time in the booth to get Ron to challenge the play.[/quote]

Somebody from the staff might've given him that instruction - I just saw a case a week or two ago where some other coaching staff told a player to fake an injury. Don't recall the team but I'm sure it will be in the news when they get fined for doing it.

Either way it was the right call in that moment, that was a good challenge. Idk why they don't make those plays reviewable by the official - we shouldn't have to waste a challenge on a bad call.

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The call was pure horse shit. I don't care how that scrub tries to justify it. Absolute joke out of all the football I have watched this year that is the first of its kind. Typical fuckin nfl bullshit. Refs crooked as they come.

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29 rushes for 124 yards….EB, I need more running but this is a start

Me seeing this weeks rushing stats and causally looking at Seattle avg giving up like 160 on the ground the last 3 weeks:

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