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REDSKINS4ever 12-07-2023 04:25 PM

Eric Bieniemy
 
Idk about yall but the things that T hill said about this man and other players around the league also said about EB is positive!... yes our players went back to Ron and was complaining about the way he EB coaches but Our players are soft bc this is what Ron created in the building.. its just like when you go to work and if your boss is laid back then all the employees will most likely be laid back too... EB is a hard nose ass coach!! And we need that in a coach.. EB wants to win and he needs to get our players to have that same mindset.. yes he might fail but he also might do a great job as a HC. but I guess we will never know bc there is rumors saying our owners are going a whole different route with coaching 🤷🏽*♂️... Now I hear the bears are interested in EB, and if the bears turn there Franchise around with EB In a few years I swear another good coach down the drain as always 🙄🤦🏽*♂️...Harris should hire a GM of course and that GM should hire EB...all crybaby players on offer who don't want to play for EB should either be cut or traded for a turkey sandwich.

Chief X_Phackter 12-07-2023 04:51 PM

Re: Eric Bieniemy
 
I'm less concerned about players complaining, than I am with the fact that he sucks at his job.

REDSKINS4ever 12-07-2023 04:59 PM

Re: Eric Bieniemy
 
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1354032]I'm less concerned about players complaining, than I am with the fact that he sucks at his job.[/quote]


The problem is the players and not the coach.....EB proved himself when he was in KC as we all know......he came to Washington with the intent to make our offense better......but the players are the ones slacking....Sam Howell has commended EB.

Chief X_Phackter 12-07-2023 05:07 PM

Re: Eric Bieniemy
 
To be clear, it's the players AND the coach.

Most players and coaches in this league will say the right things when it comes to the questions about how they view other players and coaches in the league. It's rare when that is not the case. There's a reason why EB has been passed over multiple times to be a HC to the point where he had to take this job to 'prove himself' outside of Andy Reid. All he has proven is he loves to throw the ball, he has no idea how to scheme to protect his QB, and he cannot make an adjustment to save his life.

mredskins 12-07-2023 05:56 PM

Re: Eric Bieniemy
 
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1354032]I'm less concerned about players complaining, than I am with the fact that he sucks at his job.[/quote]

This 100

Dumbest thread ever , EB sucks and the bears some how are dumber then this franchise

EB came here because he had to show he could do it without Andy ( he didn’t show anything)

Commanders hired EB because no one else wanted the job and they needed to create some buzz going into a lame duck season

All counts failed and the Bears can have EB ; end of thread

REDSKINS4ever 12-07-2023 06:35 PM

Re: Eric Bieniemy
 
[quote=mredskins;1354037]This 100

Dumbest thread ever , EB sucks and the bears some how are dumber then this franchise

EB came here because he had to show he could do it without Andy ( he didn’t show anything)

Commanders hired EB because no one else wanted the job and they needed to create some buzz going into a lame duck season

All counts failed and the Bears can have EB ; end of thread[/quote]



The Chicago Bears organization could make you eat those naive words

Chico23231 12-07-2023 06:46 PM

Re: Eric Bieniemy
 
Man, I just wonder how this thread would look if JDR and those scrubs on defense could have simply matched last year performance or even come within 20% of it?

Defense failed us

Chief X_Phackter 12-07-2023 07:06 PM

Re: Eric Bieniemy
 
Last year we averaged 18.9 points per game. So far this year we are averaging 20.1 points per game. That's not enough of an improvement for me, and I doubt it's enough of an improvement for the new owners. Put it on the players, RR, EB, the O-line, receivers who all of a sudden can't get open, etc...doesn't matter. He was the one who was brought in to take the offense to the next level and he hasn't. If Chicago is ready to take him - that is great. We'll get a new GM, new coaching staff, new front office, and two more comp picks.

sdskinsfan2001 12-07-2023 07:08 PM

Re: Eric Bieniemy
 
FLUSH IT ALL. I DON'T EVEN CARE IF IT'S A BABY BEING THROWN OUT W/ THE BATHWATER!!

Hire a GM, GM hires HC and scouting department. HC hires his coordinators/position coaches.

Let's just do things the normal fucking way for once!

Note - If Harris hires a GM w/ no strings attached to any one (coach or player), and that GM chooses Bieniemy to be HC, then that's fine for me. Just do things in the right order!! PLEASE!!!

Meks 12-07-2023 08:00 PM

Re: Eric Bieniemy
 
If the guy could learn how to have a decent game plan, call a decent game and you know, changed his whole damn strategic philosophy sure, seems like a high motor coach.

But all of the former are terrible.

HTTR 12-07-2023 09:59 PM

Re: Eric Bieniemy
 
[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1354046]

Hire a GM, GM hires HC and scouting department. HC hires his coordinators/position coaches.

[/QUOTE]

That’s all there is to it. The last thing we need is an owner telling a new GM who’s going to be on his staff. We had that already.


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That Guy 12-07-2023 10:02 PM

Re: Eric Bieniemy
 
3rd and 1 - shotgun pass
4th and 1 - shotgun pass

shaky OL, let's not run (gotten better lately) and roll the QB out exactly once per season.

We're not really worse than last year, but I wouldn't call the offense good either. Ron the GM has set up a terrible OL to try and succeed with though (to be fair).

REDSKINS4ever 12-07-2023 10:59 PM

Re: Eric Bieniemy
 
[quote=Chico23231;1354043]Man, I just wonder how this thread would look if JDR and those scrubs on defense could have simply matched last year performance or even come within 20% of it?

Defense failed us[/quote]


I agree that the D'S failure impacted the offense

REDSKINS4ever 12-07-2023 11:02 PM

Re: Eric Bieniemy
 
[quote=That Guy;1354052]3rd and 1 - shotgun pass
4th and 1 - shotgun pass

shaky OL, let's not run (gotten better lately) and roll the QB out exactly once per season.

We're not really worse than last year, but I wouldn't call the offense good either. Ron the GM has set up a terrible OL to try and succeed with though (to be fair).[/quote]

The offense is slightly better than last year....the OL was/is definitely a huge problem....blame Ron for thinking he could fill voids with cast-offs from.Carolina like Norwell......he didn't sign good free agents and the only lineman he drafted that was worth a damn was Cosmi.....

BaltimoreSkins 12-08-2023 08:52 AM

Re: Eric Bieniemy
 
[quote=Chico23231;1354043]Man, I just wonder how this thread would look if JDR and those scrubs on defense could have simply matched last year performance or even come within 20% of it?

Defense failed us[/quote]

Chris Cooley after the Dallas game said on Sheehan he said some of the defenses struggles are attributed to EB's inability to call a balanced game. The offense is causing too many 3 and outs. No ball control, short fields etc. He was speaking from personal experience as well. I don't think there is a way to accurately measure or assign a value to that but I can definitely see where he is coming from.

skinsfaninok 12-08-2023 09:52 AM

Re: Eric Bieniemy
 
EB has never gotten a HC job for a reason.. he’s a very avg OC. Against good defenses he can’t call a game for shit. The lack of run game is also a joke. I’m fine with a pass first offense like the Bills, KC etc but you still need to be able to run the ball on short yardage downs.. EB never does that


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BaltimoreSkins 12-08-2023 10:15 AM

Re: Eric Bieniemy
 
It should be pass first the entire league is and for a reason. More explosive play success and more explosive play opportunities etc etc. I am also fine with being in shotgun all the time as the rest of the league is too but a good OC has to recognize when you should not be in shotgun and he can't do that.

rocnrik 12-08-2023 10:57 AM

Re: Eric Bieniemy
 
You gotta be an able to recognize that the OLine is absolutely trash … without Oline it doesn’t really matter what formation or who the QB or RB or really anything … you have NOTHING !! If this team had used half the resources on the Oline that we put into the D we at least might be very good on the O … that is why we can’t pass up on LT .. we have to have a rebuild on O line .. I would trade Allen for pick Possible First ? Get Edge .. all those First rounder DLine picks were wasted . Can’t put all resources into one position while the team falls apart .. get rid of the high salaries underachieving Players and start over ..with the right GM it can work

MTK 12-08-2023 11:01 AM

Re: Eric Bieniemy
 
EB can take a hike right along with the rest of the staff

Chico23231 12-08-2023 11:28 AM

Re: Eric Bieniemy
 
Captain obvious here, but EB isn’t well like in the locker room

KI Skins Fan 12-08-2023 03:50 PM

Re: Eric Bieniemy
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1354046]FLUSH IT ALL. I DON'T EVEN CARE IF IT'S A BABY BEING THROWN OUT W/ THE BATHWATER!!

Hire a GM, GM hires HC and scouting department. HC hires his coordinators/position coaches.

Let's just do things the normal fucking way for once!

Note - If Harris hires a GM w/ no strings attached to any one (coach or player), and that GM chooses Bieniemy to be HC, then that's fine for me. Just do things in the right order!! PLEASE!!![/quote]

Yes! Clear out the entire football coaching and personnel management hierarchy and start anew in the way you described.

I don't see any reason why the team shouldn't be quietly identifying GM candidates right now so they can move faster on the work to be done after the season ends and Rivera along with all of his assistant coaches, Mayhew and Hurney are fired.

I read somewhere that Josh Harris has already stated that there will be "extensive changes" after this season ends.

SkinsGuru 12-08-2023 05:43 PM

Re: Eric Bieniemy
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1354096]Yes! Clear out the entire football coaching and personnel management hierarchy and start anew in the way you described.

I don't see any reason why the team shouldn't be quietly identifying GM candidates right now so they can move faster on the work to be done after the season ends and Rivera along with all of his assistant coaches, Mayhew and Hurney are fired.

I read somewhere that Josh Harris has already stated that there will be "extensive changes" after this season ends.[/quote]

On the GM side, why not fire your GM now and start the interviewing process?

punch it in 12-08-2023 06:50 PM

Re: Eric Bieniemy
 
[QUOTE=Chico23231;1354086]Captain obvious here, but EB isn’t well like in the locker room[/QUOTE]


Well this dates back to the players complaining about his strict attitude and we all bashed the wussy players who complained. He can get lost because of his x’s and o’s but Im not sure that is why he isn’t liked.

skinsfan69 12-08-2023 08:10 PM

Re: Eric Bieniemy
 
He is one and done here. He sucks at calling plays and running an offense.

skinsfaninok 12-09-2023 09:30 AM

Re: Eric Bieniemy
 
[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1354103]He is one and done here. He sucks at calling plays and running an offense.[/QUOTE]


4&1 and you throw as out route against press man…. Lmao


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KI Skins Fan 12-09-2023 10:14 AM

Re: Eric Bieniemy
 
[quote=SkinsGuru;1354099]On the GM side, why not fire your GM now and start the interviewing process?[/quote]

Well, it's complicated. For one thing, per Rivera's contract the GM reports to him only. I don't want to speculate any further on the reasons why Josh Harris is waiting on firing the GM but it looks to me like he's going to wait out the season so my thoughts were based on that.

REDSKINS4ever 12-09-2023 12:15 PM

Re: Eric Bieniemy
 
Brian Mitchell want to know who the players who are crying about EB are......
[url]https://www.audacy.com/thefandc/sports/washington-commanders/bmitch-wants-to-know-who-is-complaining-about-eric-bieniemy?utm_campaign=www.audacy.com%252Fthefandc&utm_content=1702065257&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_term=WJFK-FM&fbclid=IwAR37N3q5-Ta3AX5mhfjPI_cwjmp8uPWMpdAZ_SRF5GuIYuvEc7_vStUr3oA[/url]

Meks 12-09-2023 05:14 PM

Re: Eric Bieniemy
 
Pack your bags, EB & the crybabies

PorkSkins 12-10-2023 12:49 AM

Re: Eric Bieniemy
 
[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1354109]Brian Mitchell want to know who the players who are crying about EB are......
[url]https://www.audacy.com/thefandc/sports/washington-commanders/bmitch-wants-to-know-who-is-complaining-about-eric-bieniemy?utm_campaign=www.audacy.com%252Fthefandc&utm_content=1702065257&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_term=WJFK-FM&fbclid=IwAR37N3q5-Ta3AX5mhfjPI_cwjmp8uPWMpdAZ_SRF5GuIYuvEc7_vStUr3oA[/url][/quote]

I like BMitch, but a lot of things he speak on sounds like mumbo jumbo and dated material.

REDSKINS4ever 12-10-2023 02:46 AM

Re: Eric Bieniemy
 
[quote=PorkSkins;1354122]I like BMitch, but a lot of things he speak on sounds like mumbo jumbo and dated material.[/quote]

B Mitch for GM

Chief X_Phackter 12-10-2023 04:01 AM

Re: Eric Bieniemy
 
Fuck EB.

That is all.

Giantone 12-10-2023 04:12 AM

Re: Eric Bieniemy
 
[quote=punch it in;1354100]Well this dates back to the players complaining about his strict attitude and we all bashed the wussy players who complained. He can get lost because of his x’s and o’s but Im not sure that is why he isn’t liked.[/quote]

You guys had McVay and Shanahan , EB is as good if not better . For once this should be thought out before letting him go. I get it's a bad year but just maybe it's the players and not the Coach, not talking about Ron . Look a new system is hard for all judge it by year 2.

Meks 12-10-2023 10:53 AM

Re: Eric Bieniemy
 
[quote=Giantone;1354125]You guys had McVay and Shanahan , EB is as good if not better . For once this should be thought out before letting him go. I get it's a bad year but just maybe it's the players and not the Coach, not talking about Ron . Look a new system is hard for all judge it by year 2.[/quote]

Better, lol, not even in the same conversation as Kyle.

skinsfaninok 12-10-2023 11:39 AM

Re: Eric Bieniemy
 
EB better than SM and KS?? Ok that’s crazy talk


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REDSKINS4ever 12-11-2023 03:20 AM

Re: Eric Bieniemy
 
[quote=Giantone;1354125]You guys had McVay and Shanahan , EB is as good if not better . For once this should be thought out before letting him go. I get it's a bad year but just maybe it's the players and not the Coach, not talking about Ron . Look a new system is hard for all judge it by year 2.[/quote]


Agreed

Chico23231 12-11-2023 07:39 AM

Re: Eric Bieniemy
 
KC missing EB. Offense been way down

Giantone 12-11-2023 08:56 AM

Re: Eric Bieniemy
 
[quote=Meks;1354128]Better, lol, not even in the same conversation as Kyle.[/quote]

Really, Kyle was 6-10 year one ,4-12 year 2, he was in the hot seat in year 3.

MTK 12-11-2023 08:58 AM

Re: Eric Bieniemy
 
EB has a long way to go before he can be mentioned in the same breath as Kyle

Giantone 12-11-2023 11:09 AM

Re: Eric Bieniemy
 
[quote=MTK;1354190]EB has a long way to go before he can be mentioned in the same breath as Kyle[/quote]

EB has the rings and the respect around the League.

MTK 12-11-2023 11:10 AM

Re: Eric Bieniemy
 
[quote=Giantone;1354192]EB has the rings and the respect around the League.[/quote]

He hasn't even been a HC yet, not sure how you can compare him to someone like Kyle who has a far more accomplished resume as an OC and HC.


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